4003 pts · July 23, 2013
Yes, not all people are like this - but all who don't actively work against it are supporting such behaviour.Let's all join togethet in making men afraid to behave that way!
Don't let them distract you. The issue is not them taking away your precious plastic straws. Rage against them, not against people trying to reduce pollution.
Vote still - it's not enough by far, but it is the least you can do. Literally: Take it as a starting point knowing it is not enough and additional action will be necessary. Use overcoming the obstacles to voting (including your lack of motivation) as training for more advanced steps of resistance.
Nope, voting is no magical cure. And it's not enough by a long shot. But it is the bare minimum. If nothing else, use the obstacles they put in place as training ground for what else might need overcoming soon. Don't tell people not to vote - tell them voting is the very least they need to do.
Not Austria, we had 38-39°C the past few days!
Developing AI tools for medical analysis is great and a massive improvement - but if at the same time the situation for medical research, infrastructure, application and affordability of treatment are left in the dust, the benefit for the broad public shrinks significantly. These things are by no means unrelated, if not necessarily directly linked. And no conspiracy or propaganda necessary, these are regular mechanics of markets.
Again, agreed for the most part - it's not as big an impact as certain bubbles make it out to be - but neither is it neglectable. And AI is not the only issue, of course not. But any bubble, especially ones leading to industrial infrastructure being built on a larger scale, distract heavily from infrastructure actually needed to sustain a base on which AI can be employed for the benefit of all. In resources and energy, but also in investments, time, workforce and such. A practical example: /1
Is it worth destroying resources and multiplying energy consumption at a where our way of living is already unsustainable? Yes, there are a lot of good uses for AI in it's different forms, but to really reap the benefits we need to keep our current level of civilatory infrastructure on the highest levels - which is threatened by none other than the commercial exploitation of AI (among other things, to be fair).
I don't disagree for the most part, just want to add a but of nuance: As far as I can tell, the fucked up part of AI that people are rightfully pissed about doesn't represent AI in its entirety, but it is a necessary evil, because corporations won't finance the research for useful technology without being allowed to use it as a money making machine. So the question is: Is the good worth the bad?
Fortunately, Ireland (the Republic) is still part of the EU!
The story of the second movie is also part of the book, and both movies are a simplified and hollywoodized version, a mere quick telling of essential plot points.Also, the original book is printed in two different colors, one for Bastians story, one for Atreyus (or more like the Fantasia point of view), which drive home the divide and eventual merging beautifully. As a kid, reading it felt like actual magic.
I'm sure most would (or at least I tell myself it must be that way...), but so many people have been indoctrinated by other people who have also been indoctrinated and so on for decades, maybe centuries. It's hard to overcome that, and being told to do hard things feels like a threat to many. So they act like they are being threatened. Takes benevolent support and a looot of patience to chip away on that, to slowly increase the number of de-indoctrinated folk. Frustrating, but surely worth it.
One of the best.
Yes, me too - my wife has shown me a lot of those small and not so small things that make a.womam's life significantly different from my own experience, even though I've been brought up by and have hung out with feminist women all my life. It's a learning curve for sure, but also great to gain this additional knowledge about how I can use my privilege to improve life for others.
of accusations and convictions of rape, and why the difference between both differs massively in lower and wealthier classes. Power dynamic, expensive lawiers, hush money etc. play a huge role in that, rather than poor people being more sinister by design.Take the much acclaimed Epstein files: How many convictions have we seen from that whole complex? Not a lot of poverty-stricken folk in there. #MeToo ended a bunch of careers, but convictions? Not so much.Statistics are fickle beast.
Enlighten me. What are the top 10 causes of violent death? I don't think fear of disease or car accidents contributes a whole lot to the feeling of threat in the above scenario. Yes?As for the rape statistic: A majority of people CONVICTED of murde and rape are1. men - case in point2. living in poverty. I'm sure you are familiar with the statistic
It is what it is...
Yep. The thing is, there are so many of those in practically all places, just most are usually quiet and only come out when they feel threatened.Which is of course why many women feel so surrounded - they have to tune their radar a lot finer from an early age, and thus are able to see the massive amount of smaller misogynistic behaviours much clearer.It's on us to learn to dee them, too - and here's as good a place as any.
Absolutely agree. And since we are so far in the territory of men not being perceived as trustworthy (and a monumental amount of evidence to at least suggest as much), we need to do all we can to change that perception. That's on us first. Being safe comes before being trusted, liked or comfortable in terms of urgent needs.
I absolutely agree, but that's more a matter of time than affordability, no? Which is also a kind if affordability... nevermind, you're right, I stand corrected.
Better than nothing for sure, although nuclear doesn't really fall in the renewable categorie.Still, fifth in one country that is very much on the wealthy side - how many households is that aproximately? Compared to, say, India?
Sure, you set your boundaries wherever you see fit. And other people will do the same. I think our job is less to judge how exactly they do that and more to create a society where they feel comfortable dialing back their boundaries.
Sure, and even considering all these factors might still not ease your mind so far as to completely dispose of any caution. And it shouldn't be expected.That said: Yes, most attacks happen in a private setting, but given how many of those there are, not-most is still a lot. An attack in a public setting, especially one with a power inequality and no witnesses, is still a very real possibility. Nobody should be snubbed for erring on the side of caution in a situation like that.
Which, of course, has been the case for the vast majority of people over the vast majority of human history.
I know, bit of an erroneous figure of speech.Still, the heat in itself is an issue in areas we have built to be heat traps, like most urban areas. Huge amounts of AC directly contribute to cities cooling down less overnight and such.
Personally, I think that would still be a rather big extension of trust for such a small interaction. Might be fine for some, but would depend on personal experiences and such more than on sztrength of character or such.
It doesn't need to, but it's an additional courtesy. No harm in that, right? But simply taking yourself out of the situation to not be perceived as a threat is fine as well.
Specifically more men. These are exactly the types of situational awareness we all need to learn and practice more to actually become allies to women. Not all men are assholes - but also many men don't care to clearly act non-assholey.
The difference: Men have the power to extract themselves from that situation on their own and with very little effort.Not the social isolation in general, mind, but the being seen as an attacker in a specific situation.Which in the long run might also serve to find better opportunities to break the social isolation.
Also good.
Yes, not all people are like this - but all who don't actively work against it are supporting such behaviour.
Let's all join togethet in making men afraid to behave that way!
Don't let them distract you. The issue is not them taking away your precious plastic straws. Rage against them, not against people trying to reduce pollution.
Vote still - it's not enough by far, but it is the least you can do. Literally: Take it as a starting point knowing it is not enough and additional action will be necessary. Use overcoming the obstacles to voting (including your lack of motivation) as training for more advanced steps of resistance.
Nope, voting is no magical cure. And it's not enough by a long shot. But it is the bare minimum. If nothing else, use the obstacles they put in place as training ground for what else might need overcoming soon. Don't tell people not to vote - tell them voting is the very least they need to do.
Not Austria, we had 38-39°C the past few days!
Developing AI tools for medical analysis is great and a massive improvement - but if at the same time the situation for medical research, infrastructure, application and affordability of treatment are left in the dust, the benefit for the broad public shrinks significantly. These things are by no means unrelated, if not necessarily directly linked. And no conspiracy or propaganda necessary, these are regular mechanics of markets.
Again, agreed for the most part - it's not as big an impact as certain bubbles make it out to be - but neither is it neglectable. And AI is not the only issue, of course not. But any bubble, especially ones leading to industrial infrastructure being built on a larger scale, distract heavily from infrastructure actually needed to sustain a base on which AI can be employed for the benefit of all. In resources and energy, but also in investments, time, workforce and such. A practical example: /1
Is it worth destroying resources and multiplying energy consumption at a where our way of living is already unsustainable? Yes, there are a lot of good uses for AI in it's different forms, but to really reap the benefits we need to keep our current level of civilatory infrastructure on the highest levels - which is threatened by none other than the commercial exploitation of AI (among other things, to be fair).
I don't disagree for the most part, just want to add a but of nuance: As far as I can tell, the fucked up part of AI that people are rightfully pissed about doesn't represent AI in its entirety, but it is a necessary evil, because corporations won't finance the research for useful technology without being allowed to use it as a money making machine. So the question is: Is the good worth the bad?
Fortunately, Ireland (the Republic) is still part of the EU!
The story of the second movie is also part of the book, and both movies are a simplified and hollywoodized version, a mere quick telling of essential plot points.
Also, the original book is printed in two different colors, one for Bastians story, one for Atreyus (or more like the Fantasia point of view), which drive home the divide and eventual merging beautifully. As a kid, reading it felt like actual magic.
I'm sure most would (or at least I tell myself it must be that way...), but so many people have been indoctrinated by other people who have also been indoctrinated and so on for decades, maybe centuries. It's hard to overcome that, and being told to do hard things feels like a threat to many. So they act like they are being threatened. Takes benevolent support and a looot of patience to chip away on that, to slowly increase the number of de-indoctrinated folk. Frustrating, but surely worth it.
One of the best.
Yes, me too - my wife has shown me a lot of those small and not so small things that make a.womam's life significantly different from my own experience, even though I've been brought up by and have hung out with feminist women all my life. It's a learning curve for sure, but also great to gain this additional knowledge about how I can use my privilege to improve life for others.
of accusations and convictions of rape, and why the difference between both differs massively in lower and wealthier classes. Power dynamic, expensive lawiers, hush money etc. play a huge role in that, rather than poor people being more sinister by design.
Take the much acclaimed Epstein files: How many convictions have we seen from that whole complex? Not a lot of poverty-stricken folk in there. #MeToo ended a bunch of careers, but convictions? Not so much.
Statistics are fickle beast.
Enlighten me. What are the top 10 causes of violent death? I don't think fear of disease or car accidents contributes a whole lot to the feeling of threat in the above scenario. Yes?
As for the rape statistic: A majority of people CONVICTED of murde and rape are
1. men - case in point
2. living in poverty. I'm sure you are familiar with the statistic
It is what it is...
Yep. The thing is, there are so many of those in practically all places, just most are usually quiet and only come out when they feel threatened.
Which is of course why many women feel so surrounded - they have to tune their radar a lot finer from an early age, and thus are able to see the massive amount of smaller misogynistic behaviours much clearer.
It's on us to learn to dee them, too - and here's as good a place as any.
Absolutely agree. And since we are so far in the territory of men not being perceived as trustworthy (and a monumental amount of evidence to at least suggest as much), we need to do all we can to change that perception. That's on us first. Being safe comes before being trusted, liked or comfortable in terms of urgent needs.
I absolutely agree, but that's more a matter of time than affordability, no? Which is also a kind if affordability... nevermind, you're right, I stand corrected.
Better than nothing for sure, although nuclear doesn't really fall in the renewable categorie.
Still, fifth in one country that is very much on the wealthy side - how many households is that aproximately? Compared to, say, India?
Sure, you set your boundaries wherever you see fit. And other people will do the same. I think our job is less to judge how exactly they do that and more to create a society where they feel comfortable dialing back their boundaries.
Sure, and even considering all these factors might still not ease your mind so far as to completely dispose of any caution. And it shouldn't be expected.
That said: Yes, most attacks happen in a private setting, but given how many of those there are, not-most is still a lot. An attack in a public setting, especially one with a power inequality and no witnesses, is still a very real possibility. Nobody should be snubbed for erring on the side of caution in a situation like that.
Which, of course, has been the case for the vast majority of people over the vast majority of human history.
I know, bit of an erroneous figure of speech.
Still, the heat in itself is an issue in areas we have built to be heat traps, like most urban areas. Huge amounts of AC directly contribute to cities cooling down less overnight and such.
Personally, I think that would still be a rather big extension of trust for such a small interaction. Might be fine for some, but would depend on personal experiences and such more than on sztrength of character or such.
It doesn't need to, but it's an additional courtesy. No harm in that, right? But simply taking yourself out of the situation to not be perceived as a threat is fine as well.
Specifically more men. These are exactly the types of situational awareness we all need to learn and practice more to actually become allies to women. Not all men are assholes - but also many men don't care to clearly act non-assholey.
The difference: Men have the power to extract themselves from that situation on their own and with very little effort.
Not the social isolation in general, mind, but the being seen as an attacker in a specific situation.
Which in the long run might also serve to find better opportunities to break the social isolation.
Also good.