oh cool, more extremely sound advice on how to deal with depression: "why don't you just do what you dream?" FFS
and btw: go read the book, the movie stops literally at the halfway point. Great movie, but there is SO much more, both in fantasy, philosophy, and in emotional depth.
Ugh. I think my instinct understood that even if my child's brain didn't. Every time I see a reference to it I think "I haven't seen that in ages, I need to dig up a copy", but then the buried trauma comes back to put a stop to it. It's so weird to simultaneously cherish something as a core memory while at the same time being deathly afraid of experiencing it again...
I'm working on it, goddammit! I had a job at KIIS FM, something I wanted when I was a teen (Dallas KISS, but I landed in LA). That was cut short by restructuring and then COVID. I went to Buffalo to finally see a total eclipse in 2024. It was overcast. I'm going to Iceland in August...it's prolly gonna be overcast. Basically had to stay homeless and save as much as possible just to do this. The idea of my happiness is constantly taken from me. So maybe all I should do is dream.
It took this guy till his adult life to understand a movie we understood as kids..of course he makes internet videos, that's definitely his iq level job
"What if the real reason we remember, is because it asked us a question?". No dude, the real reason we remember it was from the trauma we all inherited from Artax's death scene.
Huh? Isn't this the whole point/plot of the movie? It even explains it. But now I;m curious: how do other people interpret the story? Is there any other way??
Judging from the syntax, the text is AI. It's pretty common for people to post AI interpretations of media that are obvious if you're actually read/seen/listened to the media.
I think this is the result of people growing up resenting being told to analyze things in English class and deciding that they don't want to think past the very surface level of any media. There was a popular meme about it a while ago "what the author meant: the curtains were fucking blue"
tbf, a lot of this analyzing stuff done at school is complete nonsense...in the way that university professors and history scholars actually did analyze the material already and found out everything about it, the author was actually interviewed and asked about it, so we know what its about...yet somehow the stupid teacher has to come up with his own completely nonsensical and completely false interpretation and has to throw that at the students to deal with...
Ende wrote The Neverending Story, which is much better than the (albeit classic) movie adaptation, as well as Momo, which surpasses Story. They're magical and philosophical works, absolute classics! If you're going to read your kids one book this year, I suggest Momo. Chances are you'll enjoy it as much as they will.
Because I would need my competition rally license (which is expensive) and a rally-ready car (which is expensive) with a few sets of tires (which are expensive) and fuel to last the event (which is expensive) and a crew of at least two people to help me with fixing any problems (which is expensive).
Gee, it seems as if the only people who can live their dreams are the ones who have more money than they can possibly spend.
Missed the point completely. You like to race? Then race. Build a box car. But that's not what you want. You want a successful career in racing and all the perks that come with that. But to race is a much easier goal. If you love it, do it and stop making excuses and do what you dream. That's the message. If its something you really want, then you can find a way. You sound like all the people in the movie who gave up and let the nothing take them.
Or you could need someone with a different knowledge base to help you out. For instance,
You could form a nonprofit that is dedicated to paying poor kids to goto mechanic/trade school. Then you race, and people donate similar to how people charity run and get $/mile. Then you could get donation sponsorships, starting local and moving up. And there are tons of mechanics who'd love to turn a wrench on a rally car. You really need a paperwork person who'd be worth their weight in gold..
I used this analogy to describe my mother to my siblings. Inertia. No movement. I have had to go physically rescue her a few times due to her sinking in the swamp of sadness.
Man, when the big guy was sitting there looking at his hands and just couldn't understand how he couldn't save his friends. That is the scene that broke me
But... it's literally explained in the movie. How can you watch the movie and not understand the plot? You make me very curious, if you've seen it 100 times (ok ok hyperbloic I know) then how did you interpret the movie? What did you think was the plot?
I always took it as a heavy handed "kids these days" kind of thing. Like Flight of Dragons - the world is ceasing to believe in magic. I didn't really see anything deeper than that. But also I was like five the first time I watched it so really I didn't even see that much in it. Cool turtle and rock guy and stuff and, huh, why would a horse be sad ?
Dude, you’re criticizing me as a dumbass kid. It’s truly not complicated. I liked the special effects and the sphinxes with the boobies. I wasn’t big on subtext or even text.
Probably 8? I was a little emotionally stunted as a kid, so I never really got the emotional resonance required to sympathize enough with a character and understand deeper meaning in a piece of media.
Ah yeah I was older and was very aware of my surroundings. I hated the school system, it felt like a prison sucking out my freedom, trying to push me into some sort of straight jacket so I "would fit into coorporate society and be a good worker". I think thats why the message of the movie impacted me a lot.
It’s really more that the context of real life the movie assumed. “Giving up on your dreams” is still pretty low concept this is the most for a kid that otherwise presents itself as a typical adventure where a kid saves the world.
So it’s not that I didn’t understand the words said, it’s that I wasn’t expecting the movie to really say anything. And when it did, I didn’t really get it.
But still, idk, I was a kid. I didn’t think anything was deep.
Oh ps I didnt mean to be a dick with my words. I can be too blunt and then I accidentally insult people, sorry if I did. I was genuinely curious about how other people interpreted this movie in another way :)
It's more like 'dont stop dreaming' and 'dont let the real world consume/destroy your dreams'. I think I might have been older when this first came out. I have always hated school and was very aware of being put into that straight jacket, so maybe thats why the movie impacted me more.
I think I would say “impacted differently”. Never ending Story was my parents favorite movie, so they showed it to me when I was really young, before I could understand any of it, really. So I think I latched onto the visuals more than the meaning behind it.
But I still think it was incredibly formative and I credit that movie for instilling a deep love of fantasy very early on.
Well, the similarities between the book and the Disney movie are that there are a fox and also at least one hound. That's pretty much it. The primary hound isn't even Copper, it's Chief. And they are certainly not friends at any point.
Yes: a LOT more characters and locations. But it's not Atreyu visiting them. Saying the movie stops at page 37 is a bit hyperbolic but there is *easily* half of the book that happens after Bastian crosses over.
The story of the second movie is also part of the book, and both movies are a simplified and hollywoodized version, a mere quick telling of essential plot points. Also, the original book is printed in two different colors, one for Bastians story, one for Atreyus (or more like the Fantasia point of view), which drive home the divide and eventual merging beautifully. As a kid, reading it felt like actual magic.
locksmith9
I dream of making sure my audio and video are properly synched
ItHappenedInThe20thCentury
oh cool, more extremely sound advice on how to deal with depression: "why don't you just do what you dream?" FFS
and btw: go read the book, the movie stops literally at the halfway point. Great movie, but there is SO much more, both in fantasy, philosophy, and in emotional depth.
XavierCross
source is kyleterrizzi @ IG
IWouldLickThat
Executive dysfunction.
iamgnat
Ugh. I think my instinct understood that even if my child's brain didn't. Every time I see a reference to it I think "I haven't seen that in ages, I need to dig up a copy", but then the buried trauma comes back to put a stop to it. It's so weird to simultaneously cherish something as a core memory while at the same time being deathly afraid of experiencing it again...
Aranon1183
The only thing I remember from that movie is how Falkor was one of my first crushes.
itsthevoiceman
I'm working on it, goddammit! I had a job at KIIS FM, something I wanted when I was a teen (Dallas KISS, but I landed in LA). That was cut short by restructuring and then COVID.
I went to Buffalo to finally see a total eclipse in 2024. It was overcast. I'm going to Iceland in August...it's prolly gonna be overcast. Basically had to stay homeless and save as much as possible just to do this.
The idea of my happiness is constantly taken from me. So maybe all I should do is dream.
JimFromMarketing
I hear you
Becker37
Thanks, it's 8:21 am and I'm already crying
seenunseen
It took this guy till his adult life to understand a movie we understood as kids..of course he makes internet videos, that's definitely his iq level job
Philocrates
*Tears in eyes, choking as he tries to get out the words*WHY... WHY... IS MY OVERACTING SO BAD?
Snooj
Did you know A Knights Tale is a tale about a guy who wasn't a knight so he did knightly things until he became a knight? Mind blown.
daguq
The book is a thing of wonder.
jamiekellyxxx
AI script.
ToSisPoS
That’s the problem when you interpret a film from a few memes and trailers
PiccChicc
"What if the real reason we remember, is because it asked us a question?". No dude, the real reason we remember it was from the trauma we all inherited from Artax's death scene.
GrandmasterSpank
Huh? Isn't this the whole point/plot of the movie? It even explains it. But now I;m curious: how do other people interpret the story? Is there any other way??
haggerton
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yosoysoyboy
Judging from the syntax, the text is AI. It's pretty common for people to post AI interpretations of media that are obvious if you're actually read/seen/listened to the media.
ButtblasterMcAssmaster
Painfully ironic, given the loss of imagination being the literal theme it's describing.
Arbitrarynamehere
Yeah it's a chatgpt script.
miserycones
I think this is the result of people growing up resenting being told to analyze things in English class and deciding that they don't want to think past the very surface level of any media. There was a popular meme about it a while ago "what the author meant: the curtains were fucking blue"
RecurringNightmare
tbf, a lot of this analyzing stuff done at school is complete nonsense...in the way that university professors and history scholars actually did analyze the material already and found out everything about it, the author was actually interviewed and asked about it, so we know what its about...yet somehow the stupid teacher has to come up with his own completely nonsensical and completely false interpretation and has to throw that at the students to deal with...
GrandmasterSpank
Hah that might be it :P
NotSomoneElse68
There's a second book I totally didn't read.. also the book is written by someone named Michael Ende.
NinjaCongo
Ende wrote The Neverending Story, which is much better than the (albeit classic) movie adaptation, as well as Momo, which surpasses Story. They're magical and philosophical works, absolute classics! If you're going to read your kids one book this year, I suggest Momo. Chances are you'll enjoy it as much as they will.
Subtilico
I read that book as a kid, the text was in blue for the fantasia part, and in red for the Bastian part (or vv)
NightOwlRally
Because I would need my competition rally license (which is expensive) and a rally-ready car (which is expensive) with a few sets of tires (which are expensive) and fuel to last the event (which is expensive) and a crew of at least two people to help me with fixing any problems (which is expensive).
Gee, it seems as if the only people who can live their dreams are the ones who have more money than they can possibly spend.
notmyrealface
Missed the point completely. You like to race? Then race. Build a box car. But that's not what you want. You want a successful career in racing and all the perks that come with that. But to race is a much easier goal. If you love it, do it and stop making excuses and do what you dream. That's the message. If its something you really want, then you can find a way. You sound like all the people in the movie who gave up and let the nothing take them.
Poopsiedaisy1
That's only like 5 things. Your dreams are 5 things away?
freshthrowaway1138
Or you could need someone with a different knowledge base to help you out. For instance,
You could form a nonprofit that is dedicated to paying poor kids to goto mechanic/trade school. Then you race, and people donate similar to how people charity run and get $/mile. Then you could get donation sponsorships, starting local and moving up. And there are tons of mechanics who'd love to turn a wrench on a rally car. You really need a paperwork person who'd be worth their weight in gold..
IAmJacksViagraInducedErection
I like this. It kinda lays out that dreams can have different approaches
BeerFueledAdventurer
Probably because we all feel more like Artax than Atreyu or Bastion, more and more every day
itsthevoiceman
puberty at the same time as the death of my abusive asshole of a stepdad really fucked my brain chemistry up.
nikinnorway12
oh man. i didn't need that right now.
secondgoaround
I used this analogy to describe my mother to my siblings. Inertia. No movement. I have had to go physically rescue her a few times due to her sinking in the swamp of sadness.
SteveMcCroskey
Too soon
OrkenMork
nah, I feel more like Rockbiter!
SnakuPlisskin
I feel like a stupid bat
BeerFueledAdventurer
"These look like big, strong hands... don't they."
OrkenMork
Capable, but ultimately ineffective...We are all somewhat "Rockbiter" at times.
hanmerhack
Man, when the big guy was sitting there looking at his hands and just couldn't understand how he couldn't save his friends. That is the scene that broke me
DukeofKMS
I thought it was about mankind losing imagination cuz of TV and Film.
CheeseCleric
That is exactly 100% one of the points of the movie, now :)
DukeofKMS
Care to tell me about the other points?
CheeseCleric
I was trying to point out that movies can have various messages to different people, that's all.
CheeseCleric
and yours is totally correct, and now I can see the message you got from it too.
DukeofKMS
It was a real question. It’s a great movie and I’m sure I missed smth, back when o saw it. I mean I was 10 or smth
CheeseCleric
I always got a message of "Do not let your inner sense of wonder die", pretty much do not become an old jaded pos lol
bananabonanza3
Geez, i probably saw this movie a hundred times growing up, crazy that there’s still more insights people can get out of this.
GrandmasterSpank
But... it's literally explained in the movie. How can you watch the movie and not understand the plot? You make me very curious, if you've seen it 100 times (ok ok hyperbloic I know) then how did you interpret the movie? What did you think was the plot?
itsthevoiceman
some of us were children when we watched it, and didn't take away any lessons.
shit, I used to turn away in fear when the fucking turtle would sneeze!
DukeofKMS
For me the movie is about mankind forgetting how to dream because of TV and capitalist society
Gestalt7
Bradbury agrees
SnakuPlisskin
I always took it as a heavy handed "kids these days" kind of thing. Like Flight of Dragons - the world is ceasing to believe in magic. I didn't really see anything deeper than that. But also I was like five the first time I watched it so really I didn't even see that much in it. Cool turtle and rock guy and stuff and, huh, why would a horse be sad ?
bananabonanza3
Dude, you’re criticizing me as a dumbass kid. It’s truly not complicated. I liked the special effects and the sphinxes with the boobies. I wasn’t big on subtext or even text.
GrandmasterSpank
Ok but then what age are we talking about?
bananabonanza3
Probably 8? I was a little emotionally stunted as a kid, so I never really got the emotional resonance required to sympathize enough with a character and understand deeper meaning in a piece of media.
GrandmasterSpank
Ah yeah I was older and was very aware of my surroundings. I hated the school system, it felt like a prison sucking out my freedom, trying to push me into some sort of straight jacket so I "would fit into coorporate society and be a good worker". I think thats why the message of the movie impacted me a lot.
DukeofKMS
I was like 10 when the movie came out. Those sphinxes, man, they started something in me.
bananabonanza3
It’s really more that the context of real life the movie assumed. “Giving up on your dreams” is still pretty low concept this is the most for a kid that otherwise presents itself as a typical adventure where a kid saves the world.
So it’s not that I didn’t understand the words said, it’s that I wasn’t expecting the movie to really say anything. And when it did, I didn’t really get it.
But still, idk, I was a kid. I didn’t think anything was deep.
GrandmasterSpank
Oh ps I didnt mean to be a dick with my words. I can be too blunt and then I accidentally insult people, sorry if I did. I was genuinely curious about how other people interpreted this movie in another way :)
bananabonanza3
Nah, you’re good, it’s an interesting question. I figured out it was a genuine question pretty quick, anyway haha
GrandmasterSpank
Ok thnx :)
GrandmasterSpank
It's more like 'dont stop dreaming' and 'dont let the real world consume/destroy your dreams'. I think I might have been older when this first came out. I have always hated school and was very aware of being put into that straight jacket, so maybe thats why the movie impacted me more.
bananabonanza3
I think I would say “impacted differently”. Never ending Story was my parents favorite movie, so they showed it to me when I was really young, before I could understand any of it, really. So I think I latched onto the visuals more than the meaning behind it.
But I still think it was incredibly formative and I credit that movie for instilling a deep love of fantasy very early on.
Barrezio
Wait until this guy learns what the book was about.
mrsdowneyjr
What's the book about
Inigo1Montoya
It is a wild ride. It has the same elements, but is much, MUCH different than the movie.
KnockedArrow90
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Snooj
I hope he does one of these on The Fox and the Hound Disney movie and then reads the book.
mrsdowneyjr
What's the book about?
Snooj
Well, the similarities between the book and the Disney movie are that there are a fox and also at least one hound. That's pretty much it. The primary hound isn't even Copper, it's Chief. And they are certainly not friends at any point.
mrsdowneyjr
*shakes head in little mermaid* "Disney, am I right?"
waznewz
The movie is EPIC... But try the book, the movie ends at like page 37, the book goes sooo much further..
NothingPrince
This. Spoilers the book then becomes about finding what he needs or he will never get home. He even meets the stranded who never made it
ISayShenanigans
Is that in the sequel?
NothingPrince
Book
Rakoth
Huh, that's got me a bit curious. How much more does it go? Is there more to the Nothing, more characters / locations Atreyu visits?
Barrezio
It's pretty crazy actually, and it's major spoilers.
battery1979
Well I'm still reading it to this day. I'm on chapter 113,743 with no end in sight.
ItHappenedInThe20thCentury
Yes: a LOT more characters and locations. But it's not Atreyu visiting them. Saying the movie stops at page 37 is a bit hyperbolic but there is *easily* half of the book that happens after Bastian crosses over.
n3ckr0mantic
The book kicks you square in the feels. Its... a lot
TheMuellmann
The story of the second movie is also part of the book, and both movies are a simplified and hollywoodized version, a mere quick telling of essential plot points.
Also, the original book is printed in two different colors, one for Bastians story, one for Atreyus (or more like the Fantasia point of view), which drive home the divide and eventual merging beautifully. As a kid, reading it felt like actual magic.