Jul 1, 2016 4:33 PM
MetalForever
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hoffbox
Taxes Siphoned Away
SpoonerGibbs
STOP RESISTING *POUND POUND POUND* STOP RESISTING!
whyisthisusernametaken
talenphillips
I'm waiting for someone to edit in a Nokia, and make it blow through the wall.
onepinksheep
Notify ahead of time if they have special needs? Apparently requiring TSA agents to not be cunts is a special need.
LosPer
I have a special need for them to go fuck themselves...
NoOneElseHasThisName
Hindsight is, as always, 20/20.....you go gurl, someday you'll amount to something. Like workin parttime at McDonalds....
idontknowgivemeaminute
This made me laugh. Thx.
IVlad
We need to start a movement, everyone booking a flight call ahead and inquire if the TSA at the airport are cunts and ask for accomodation
SauceyWench
Right? These should be people trained to read human behavior and have a gallon of common sense. Good lord.
ScrumdiddlyumptiousBar
According to the ADA they are supposed to be able to accommodate people with disabilities at all times. By that sound of it her disability 1
By the sound of it* her disability didn't even require them to make that many accommodations for her, if any. This isn't legal at all. 2
MoonFaceinc
'Pls don't ram my head into the floor'
mide8
Shit, I have that. Is there a phone number I should call or what?
It's a lot to ask...
VodkaReindeer
That's not what it says.
mtotwuoc
That's what it implies
The calling ahead suggested in the text is about the passengers informing themselves, not the TSA.
AnonOmis1000
Throwing a disabled (and, judging by the article, mentally disabled) girl to the ground and busting her head is a cunt move.
AvidNinjaHV7O
It doesn't even say "notify" it says "to learn more about the screening process" even worse... This is pretty ridiculous.
BipolarPenguin3
Tsa actually aren't supposed to touch passengers without permission. They are supposed to call the police. Probably police threw her down
Muttons1337
So I guess everytime they do a pat down, they call the police?
"Without permission." If the passenger doesn't agree to a pat down, they call the police.
I overlooked the meaning behind "without permission". I do try to keep an open mind. There's a part of the story here we're not getting.
[deleted]
Let's be real here, it's not without precedence that TSA agents don't adhere to there own codes of conduct.
clnoy
Or any "security agent" tbh.
Bedovian
When my cousins youngest flew on a plane for the first time at 3 years old, he was wearing his favorite little overalls with metal (cont)
Suspenders. So naturally he set off the metal detector. TSA agent went apeshit on this little kid. Kept pulling him through the (cont)
Detector. All the while he's crying becsuse he's scared. Finally the TSA agents manager comes up and basically tells her to get bent. (cont)
Because any moron with two brain cells to rub together could tell it was his buttons causing the alarm to go off.
HereThereWhere
Ok. This is heartbreaking.
Vandammit
So I've flown into and out of Israel. You want to see how to run airport security check them out.
pelusita35
This is the truth.
Hybris51129
The problem is that in the US you can't use what Israel uses: Profiling.
No they don't, they honestly treat every person exactly the same. They look for issues in story and body language. Its the differences they~
Look for and profiling would actually hamper that effort.
oximofo9
That's doublespeak. Perception and Profiling are the only different in legal terms. Profiling is "illegal" because lawyers made it so.
terrorista31
Muslim? this way, Jew? that way, Arab? this way, Caucasian? that way
Browning11
My sister is blind. She traveled to orlando yesterday and the TSA agent refused to help guide her into the scanner after he took her cane.
An airline pilot from Delta saw what was happening and proceeded to help my sister through security because they wouldn't let me.
She was in hysterics because of the scene the TSA agent caused & was even more nervous about the flight. Flying is tough in these situations
SomethingCleverAndFunnyThatHasentBeenTaken
TL;DR The TSA beat up a 19 year old disabled girl and are getting away scot free.
jevans88
You are the first person I've seen to point this out. Thank you for being a grown up and actually reading.
Masterrogue123
Welcome to America.
cominginhot
turn on the Bat signal
ProbablyDrunkAgain
*Airport Police, not TSA.
EpicYoshi
see this man knows how to read
ConorHooper
Aaaaaand Imgur is calling everyone a "retard" because they seem to lake any irony or self awareness.
swinglinered
Might have been a cop, not TSA. Also need doxxing.
MundaneFinality
Also, 19 year old girl, with no prior indication of special needs, resists questioning by authorities before boarding a plane, tries to /
/ escape, and is therefore forcibly detained by people whose job is to forcibly detain anyone who does not comply with safety measures
RegrettableUsername
Deaf, blind, AND a brain tumor - her ability to hear/process/respond may not be fast. That's not resisting.
murlokotam
stahp resisting!
Apolenge
I suffer from some mental issues that I fear can sometimes put me in similar situations. The look on her face is almost like looking into /1
a mirror. I just wish they were trained to be more understanding of certain situations, or have someone on staff who is. 2/2
SomePeopleSayThatCucumbersTasteBetterPickled
Phew. Well, I think we're all safer now. That was a close one though.
Valscorn
As someone who works security I hate when this shit happens. It makes everyone in this field look bad . Most of us are sane humans
inconspicuouselephant
Sane humans who willingly choose to be professional douche cunts? Get a more respected job.
icekraze
TSA is full of idiots. Had a broken ankle and was not allowed any weight on it. They took my crutches and then they told me to walk 1/2
GavinScreaming
TSA wanted me to take the cast off my broken wrist. Had to explain how a cast can't be removed whenever I want. Bunch fucktards
NationalistCanadianMooseWarrior
What the fucking shit. "Oh yeah sure lemme just bust out my cast saw and cut my fucking fibreglass cast off 1 sec"
Over to the X-ray scanner. They also asked if I could take off my cast. Had tried to get a wheelchair escort prior only to have it cancelled
BlankMage
"Can you take off your cast?" "Oh sure, let me just pop the latch on this guy, should only- OF COURSE I CAN'T TAKE OFF THE FUCKING CAST!"
GeorgeSmiley
Ha I had a similar instance when I was on crutches and wearing a metal brace. Guy actually said Can't you walk on it for a little bit.
It is crazy right? I had even told them I was completely non-weight baring. I ended up hoping over to the X-ray as they wouldn't 1/2
And you have a right to "opt out" of X-ray. They started to take that right away recently.
Listen or give the crutches back. They almost didn't give them back after patting me down. Admittedly the women's English was pretty broken
So maybe she didn't understand what I was saying. Still I feel like it something they must encounter all the time.
Had to do a work trip after having dislocated my patella. Was wearing a metal brace and on crutches. TSA agent tried to make me (1/2)
ShakeNbakemotherfucker
I've dislocated my knee twice. The muscles simply do not work afterwards. Fuck them, sorry for your experience :(
SinuousGrace
Why did you have to travel for work after such a nasty injury?
I was new on the job, junior, and was supposed to be going when I dislocated my patella. Trip was put off for a week.
Walk through the metal detector without crutches. He even said "can't you walk without them for a little bit". This was after I (2/3)
The metal brace would set off the detector anyways and I would need a pat down regardless
reijigin
This EXACT SAME THING happened to me. I told them over and over I could not walk unassisted and they just kept telling me I had to.
fredthebadger
That's one of the things where you're supposed to call ahead and tell them your medical needs.
The advance arrangement for disabilities does *not* alert the specific agents in your security line. You deal with that when you get there.
funny, that was on the return flight. Flight out, tsa waived me to the side when I got to the screening line, had me sit, scanned my (1/2)
crutches, wanded me, patted down (carefully) my knee brace, and called one of the electric carts to bring me to my gate. Same (2/3)
How does that warrant calling ahead? Are they blind? They never heard of crutches before? Do they know what they're for?
He could have at least put a plaque on them that read, "I USE THESE TO WALK."
DoctorOwly
Directly after I had my intestines removed and had an ostomy bag I had to take a plane home. Horrible pain and drugged up. I was terrified>
They'd make a big deal of my literal bag full of shit attached to me. Luckily they didn't even say anything. I guess I dodged a bullet.
scaleforbanana
I've always been terrified that'll happen to me, is it that bad?
Could've been a real shitty situation . . . I'll see myself out.
Lugh314159
TSA is a shit job, of course it attracts shit people. If a nice person got a job as a TSA, they'd quit within a year.
artsystuff
Dealing with the public would make me quit after about 2 seconds.
humptyblargh
They don't so much 'deal with' as 'order about' and 'needlessly frustrate' and 'abuse' the public.
wrathbaby
They pay obnoxiously well for a painfully easy job. I mean if you are getting paid 20-30$/hr to do less work than a Starbucks Barista 1/2
DekkerEleven
I'm only getting 15 a hour (which is nice) but right now I'm in the process for a new job that's 25 a hour for training
2/2 then you should be able to smile, listen, and think for a moment.
Source: A couple of my old coworkers used to be TSA, they got laid off and would moan about how easy their old job was and they missed it.
BlondieShell
I've been with them for almost 3 years ☺️
Can't til I separate in sept. My airport is closing, plan on making a post then
YurgenGrimwood
Please do
Haha if I do, ppl r just gunna find some reason to downvote and bash
ManMashine
Then you aren't a nice person :3
Telkesh
Australian ASO for 3 years, myself. no work stories because honestly it's boring.
thorkild91
Piece of shit.(I'm kidding to be clear. I'm sure you're lovely)
☺️
SoraPonyBoyVersetti
A lovely piece of shit
mineovermatter
Give it time...eventually you'll either quit or become one of them (cue ominous music)
krenshala
(2) oh, and thank you for spelling cue correctly!
Do do DoooOOoOoOOOoooOOooo
FryingMonkies
TSA. Stopped zero terrorist so far. Had 400 or so employees arrested for stealing. Increased all travel times. Beating handicapped people.
Baja2185
Well, blowing up the WTC wasn't a constitutional right. And if you wanna ban things that kill people you'll have to start with alcohol,
Cars, and registered democrats ;)
stovokor80
If I were running for office, one of the first things I'd do is abolish the TSA. Huge waste of funds.
CycloneSP
so yer sayin you'd "make airports great again?" ;)
gurrlicious
I laughed! ????
ibb4cl2
Like that, those who sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither. And we shall have neither...
if u read right the cop was the one who tackled her, not the tsa employee
Halfton81
It's security theater, that's all. The appearance of security. Helps the fucking morons feel safe.
SnackMasterRanger
Hey did you watch adam ruins everything?
TheMightyDio
My friend took a trip to Europe and bought a sword. Didn't do anything fancy with it, just stuffed it in a suitcase. TSA didn't notice.
Corvus2606
if it isn't in carry on, they dont care. it isnt about stopping transport, it's about stopping weapons getting in to the cabin.
360Tableflip
Not to mention a densely packed line of hundreds of people in the TSA line is kind of an easy perfect target for terror attacks...
Demenster
Don't forget they were caught purposely increasing wait times several times across their entire network to acquire more funding to do it aga
kirstytriplet
But when the apocalypse comes whose going to have all the nail clippers and tweezers!I mean serious "weapons" like those!
Because there's no background checks. Which is why thiefs, rapists, childmoldesters and all kinds of scum is hired to bully you around.
desertbear87
They're required to be able to get a Secret clearance. So.... Yeah. Most of them are just fucktarded
sphincubus
Once Went on a trip to Hawaii with some friends. One has a metal hip and didn't trip the metal detector as he passed.
danishjuggler21
What about that guy with the bomb in his shoes?
marcusosappus
He was on a plane and was stopped by fellow passengers.
LanaSmith
the ... I forget the politically correct term for stewardess has stopped a few but they are not tsa
TheseAreNotTheHobbitsYourLookingFor
This is an absolutely unverifiable statement you have zero expertise on.
Iregretnothingexceptthisusername
Not a true statement
SOLDIERfortheweak
Guessing your main source of info is cnn.
FirmAndPerkyIsBetterThanWideAndFat
Did they happen to be squirt guns?
Filled with vodka! They were really quick to confiscate my booze every time. Nukes? No problem. Booze? Oh we got that shit
kittybuttwiggle
What you said does not dispute any of what he said.
TrevHead
No one can verify any sources atm, but even if every agent pulled 4 handguns every two years that's gotta be, what, 30%-35% of attempts...?
avidday04
That needs to sink in - ZERO TERRORISTS and they routinely fail to find contraband when tested.
Avofoolery
I worked for security. The terrorists have not succeeded because we stopped them.
elrey52
The illusion of security
mechanimated
It's called security theater, and the government does it when they don't know what to do but want to LOOK like they do for reelections.
D0cH0lliday
The government took their opportunity after 9/11 to seize as many rights and increase as much power as they could... 'cuz turruhrists'
new mandatory body scanners at all the airports was a nice little present for the company the makes them
for former head of tsa: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/23/fear_pays_chertoff_n_787711.html
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Placebo effect!
swatz
Lots of security is this way. I went to a ball game the ither day. Forgot my knife in my pocket, set off the sensor. Had to take it to mt <
>truck. Went back in and told my r friends. They all laughed and pulled out their pocket knives. I had taken it 4 times before.
To make some people feel safe. After something like 9/11, could you imagine general public reaction if they didn't?
pancreas
stopping dangerous people from bringing nail clippers on a plane!
To prevent people from freely traveling around. Just one of many rights taken away after installing the "Patriot" act, which Obama expanded.
TheMonkeySpanker
Because sheeple NEED to be tricked into having that warm fuzzy feeling
LoTRFanatic42
~90% of weapons and drugs make it past them, according to the FBI.
shippsheroo
I helped a passenger check a new piece of luggage, because she was turned back for having a bar of soap Shaped like a gun. Thank God for TSA
CheshiresShadow
but at least they confiscated all those illegal kinder suprise eggs. :V
StarmanUltra
I can appreciate that. I accidentally brought on a pocket knife that was a wedding present from my brother.
NuggetDuster
Its shit like this that makes me oppose "watch lists." The fed is utterly worthless for protecting us.
HelGolfian
For real, I brought a metal pipe with weed in it right by them. It was an accident, forgot I had it, but for real. They had no idea.
davidbowieeyes
Ditto & a pen knife- had a heart attack when I found them, couldn't believe my stupidity & luck
AmbiguousGardens
Yet I can't get past commons with a pack of cigars
azazyel
I smoke and had a delay so I had to go through security every time I smoked. It took 5 times before anyone noticed I had a full bottle of liquid in my backpack which they scanned every single time.
GoCorral
Source? They past about tons of stuff they find every week on their blog.
tsa is not looking for drugs only for explosives and any parts that can make a bomb
gtmiller
They are paid to look like the area is secure. Other airports all over the world are much more secure.
I work for tsa and we are paid to look for explosives and obvious threats, we are not LE
Obvious threats are not realistic ones. Its not that you are dumb, but you lack the training.
Security theater!
LE looks for everything even drugs
Yeah my dad used to fly for delta and told me about a test the fbi ran. Like 96 out of a hundred agents got through with obvious weapons
Mayralejandraaaa
Well thats fucking scary then
Spinzaku
Yeah. Its called "security theater" by those who realize how useless it is. Its really there to make people feel safe, in practicr..useless.
PotatoIsland
They can't find weapons, but they took my plastic keychain of a spaceship because I could kill the pilot with it.
StoicJ
Buddy bought a cane with a sword in it for a trip out of country, knew they wouldnt find it. he was right, there and back.
fuckpowerlevelsfucksupersaiyansandfuckyou
I got a compound bow that can drop a horse, with a couple dozen arrows, through without complaint
imshibagel
Literally impossible to prove they haven't stopped terrorists if terrorists have looked to other methods to avoid TSA.
maythedoctorbewithyou
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3105820/EXPOSED-dozens-explosives-weapons-TSA-checkpoints-95-PERCENT-undercover-airport-tests.html
We have a good proxy with Air Marshals and the FBI testing them. They failed miserably.
jackketch
I think a better way for them to phrase it would be that they have caught zero terrorists. The TSA might have deterred hijacking attempts.
Agreed. It's like making a general statement such as "gun control does nothing." Ok well, ANY gun control measure or things like banning?
C4Vi
Or make an extreme: "Nuclear bomb control does nothing" (It's an extreme, don't come telling me it's an exaggeration, **that's the point**)
Well... That depends a lot too. They aren't terrorists until they do an act of terror. Just as a would-be murderer needs to kill first.
So the only terrorists they can actually catch are "repeat offenders".
xxdsidexx
we need the tsa to protect us from medically and physically disabled terrorists....
GravyNightmare
anyone can be a terrorist
LongoloidFartExplosion
Abu Hamza?
WilwoWaggins
Give some people authority and they forget that they and we are both human.
Robocop88
They don't have authority but are under the assumption they do, which is one of their many problems
TwoSeamer
Back in Czech it's called something like "doorman complex." You give an idiot a little of authority over a small thing, they abuse it
comfortableshoes
+1 This. This is a growing problem these days.
fafnir77
I was a C.O. for four years, and I still think ex convicts are sub human. It's something in actively trting to overcome though.
Beegeezee505
I work in home health care. I too think my customers are sub human. I go into the most vile of living conditions.
mynameisntfuckinwarren
Correction. They are not human. Not anymore. Either they forgot how or they just gave up.
AccountCreatedToUpdogVotes
You think TSA agents are humans?
Lol and rofl.
They fall within the spectrum.
LemonFanta
Absolute power corrupts... absolutely?
Sure, that too.
... is great
thedharmabums
The Stanford Experiment touches on that beautifully.
PooPooInSpaghettiEveryoneUpsetti
I talked about this like 1 day ago. Sometime, it's like Imgur is spying me.
Treblaine
I think it's more a statistical selection bias, 600 million passengers annual, you're looking at one incident.
I'm more talking about giving every day people power over their peers and watching for a psychological change. No experiment required.
I know the Standford Experiment, you only know with hindsight she's a sick girl and wasn't an addict who'd walked in with a weapon.
You seem unwilling to see how this is an innocent mistake, they can't just let ANYONE away after they set off a metal detector.
This is not power abused, this is a freak accident, one in a billion odds of misunderstanding and chaotic arrest, not "OMG they're nazis!"
aDapperBear
Ah hell. I'm a born and raised memphian. This does not help with our image. Although it wasn't that great to begin with :(
hillarymuff
Germantown?
Cordova and currently Cooper/Young
tb24601
Right? Born and raised Memphian here as well. Raleigh/Frayser. Moved to Colorado in 2008. Miss my family but not the town.
PolaroidDickBandit
IM IN MEMPHIS INTERNATIONAL AS I TYPE THIS. GREAT TO KNOW
freedomfight
I live in Memphis, I fly out of there monthly, just got back from Dublin today. Unreal
RexBry
You're fine as long as you're not disabled. Or white. Or black. Or talk differently. On second thought, you should probably walk.
UltimateUmbreon
I wish you luck.
Magsnificent
It's still safer inside the airport than outside of it. South Memphis ain't the place to hang out.
Say hello TO THE GROUND
DrWuTangClanSr
Security guards are ppl who couldnt be cops. TSA agents are ppl who couldnt become security guards.
jjberry522
Im a security gaurd, they are not even close to the same thing. I dont wanna be a cop either. Its just a good stable job.
MyFavoriteThingtoDoisFlakeOnPlans
>gaurd
retnaburn
I'm security, I never wanted to be a cop. Just sayin'.
zeradeth
I'm a security guard because the pay is nice and the job is easy :/ I have no desire to be a police officer. I respect the hell out of 1/2
2/2 police officers, but I would never want the responsibility that comes with a badge.
MarinShatterhand
Well, I'm a security officer, I want to be a TSA because it pays more but also cop because it pays more. Just not old enough or have XP.
You can get extra XP from grinding.
TheDivineUsersub
I'm guessing you don't know any security guards. Many of them are retired cops or soldiers.
BigFloppyPancakes
3. is incredibly low.
RipleysBelieveItOrDie
Looked at the job requirements for them, absolutely no education or work experience required.
Salpinus
I'm a security guard. I don't want to be a cop, I study Limnology and have it as a part time job. Few of my coworkers want to be cops btw
WhitePhoenix
That's some ivory tower logic bruh. Most security guards I know are just people who are eking out a living.
TriggeredPrivilege
I've been in security 14 years. I've never wanted to be a cop. Try again, cool guy.
MedicSailor
True, TSA are pieces of shit, but it's not even on the individuals as much as the admin and how it's run. They aren't security though.
Lizaderp
That's rude and bullshit. I'm in security because I hope to become the cops the country actually needs.
We're the first to put ourselves in danger and we have to make the decision whether or not to even get cops involved. It's intense.
davecoulierssuperfullhousefanclub
K I'm a security guard and it's a summer job bunch of my coworkers are veterans who do it full time this is unnecessary
None of the blueshirts are even TSA employees, they are "contractors." Reqs to get in are lit a GED or HS Diploma. 1/?
There are only 1-2 actual TSA employees in an airport at any given time, usually the distracted, rude, suit-wearing "managers." 2/?
Rest assured, Blue-shirts are underpaid, scum suckers who face no punishment for beatdowns, theft, talking back, or selling your X-rays. 3/3
2. agent is less vetted than a security guard, actually much more so. But the organization itself is dumb as fuck and employee satisfaction
1. The interview process to work in the TSA is long as hell, lots of interviews (and a xray aptitude test). I don't think the standard
DannMoreno
I was unemployed and applied to TSA. They said I was over qualified. FYI... I work in logistics. No security training at all.!!
GenetheCook
Not to undermine what happened in this instance, but you shouldn't generalize. I knew a teacher in high school who worked from 4 to 8 in 1/2
the morning to pay for his bills and daughter's college loans. These people were stupid, but don't assume all TSA agents are like that.
Ok...only 99.5% then.
MrScottBakula
Don't listen to these people. There are few things more valuable to a business or school than good security personnel.
IKilledKennyAndIAmABastard
Same! I'm also a security officer! I love my job. I don't want to be a cop. I'm just trying to put myself through college.
I agree, I don't know why the OP of the original comment thread is getting so many upvotes. We need security guards just like any other job
kentk94
No, no they're not. I know a lot of security folks that start here, then become cops. Stop generalizing...
I gotta stop you there, that's not true for even 50%. I was active duty, honorable discharge and I did private security and could be a cop.
samsonguy920
Actually a fair amount of security guards are cops making more for home, or retired cops trying to make up for their shit pension.
finantheagile
TSA: least amount of power, most amount of sass
drowningfishy
::Security guard opens her mouth to say something, realizes why she first almost went to college and closes it:: BTW I hate TSA too.
As a former TSA officer it's actually harder than you think
SuwinTzi
As someone who's BSIS certified security guard, I take offense to that. Security guards have nothing that allows them to treat pple this way
juliastarfire
From someone who use to be a SO. No. Never wished to be a cop. These guys are fucking assholes and deserve to lose their jobs. Period.
Mooncheeses
I could be a cop, this isn't some lame 90's movie.
greasymustache
Do they get Healthcare? If so, does it cover this nasty burn?
Shewy92
I'm a fake security guard. By that I mean I have no gun and make $11/hr. But I was an Air Force Cop so what does that make me?
You're not fake because you don't have a gun. Our cops don't have guns (on them, they do in the cars however). Here is Norway btw :)
*And I'm a security guard who's dealt with A LOT of troubled people :p No need for a gun, just patience and being calm
DarkLordCalladus
Most of them couldn't even cut it as a Walmart greeter...
Schmedes
Hey, the greeters at my Walmart are really nice. Don't be a cunt, I bet you wouldn't be kept as a greeter either.
TekPriest1975
That's because the Walmart greeters at least have social skills of some sort.
LearnedCoward
That's because you don't greet people by slamming their heads into the ground
ImaSithDuh
I don't think they could cut it as a doorstop.
Engelic
Not with the high bar Hodor set
BuffingtonRumbleberries
Nobody could, have you seen the bar for doorstops lately?
DaShaka9
I don't think they could cut it as a fart
Shrekscoped420
Now imagine how incompetent and stupid the average security guard is... now weep for humanity.
codenameblack
I rather weep for humanity because of your uninformed comment.
name on security guard that isn't A) Over 300lbs or B) a high school drop out, you can't. if you say yourself, you are lying.
Myself, 85 kg got myself trough college guess what, to become a security guard in my country you need to have atleast a MBO 2 diploma. 1/2
Same can be said for my co-workers except for 2. Stop selling yourself bs 2/2
Nick9265
My friend, who is 6' 160 pounds and ex military I guess is an exception to the rule then? You only make yourself look dumb.
These are people that are too incompetent to be police officers. Let that fact sink in for a second.
akshually
TSA and security guards are not the same. Security guards are people.
OtterAvalanche
Appreciate it sir. I'm a guard myself and I know my job isn't serious... I just try to stop people from hurting themselves, mostly.
It's amazing, even after 8 years of being security, how many people get pissed when we try to keep them safe. No coffee and servers-NM...
When I was a guard we were closer to glorified hospitality. Weren't even expected to be armed. Comparisons to cops annoy me
endg4me
As a security guard, I agree. We're just here to enforce client rules as much as people think we're going out of our way to piss you off.
As another security guard, well said!
As a security manager, yes this.
BeastyBill88
S/O here aswell its nice to see other people in security feeling the same way.
TinySupreme
Even tho sometimes client rules are dumb as fuck. We can't even initiate a stop for shoplifters.
As security, presence is wanted more than total enforcement where I work. Wasn't the same when I worked at Best Buy. I know how you feel.
micmic00
As another guard so much this.
timeloveandyarn
Last time I flew TSA thought my back fat was a bomb and gave me 2 extra pat downs. Then I had to explain to the guy scanning my carry on 1/2
what EXACTLY my diva cup was and what it was for because he thought that looked suspicious too.
chipmunkshavenuts
"That does look suspicious. See what it smells like."
Flyndaran
T.S.A. story I remember brutalized a traveller with a rectal surgical "thing" because their in house doctor hadn't heard of it. 1/2
It's someting known for centuries to deal with rectal fistulas. So even their doctors are fucking morons.
backstabbr1001
You know, as a brown guy; watching the way you guys treat your own people is scary and makes me not wanna visit the states.
NoDanaOnlyZuuuuul
Just visit one of the good states, like...uh...like uhhhhhhh. Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..........
HiImMattIFuckUpMostThings
You're not missing much.
GiantRobotsRule
Just stay North of the Mason-Dixon line. Or better yet, the Canadian border.
Yeah, like Chicago or Detroit. Great idea! Ever heard the term Southern Hospitality?
IMichigan & Illinois both outrank most of the deep South in quality of life measures (poverty,life expectancy,uninsured rate,education, etc)
Ummm OK. I just pointed out how there are not so great spots up North too. But try visiting the South sometime. You may change your mind.
cerulee
If you have to fly in, it's really not worth it.
The border guards are enough for me. Headed south they're always incredibly rude.
TruthHurtsEh
Don't it's a shit hole. Don't give them your money stand back and watch it destroy itself.
The1stBellicose
Come to Canada.
Ihavewaytoomanyfavoritestosort
You are one of "our own people." Unless you're a manatee, we're all the same species.
HieronymousFlex
Yeah, wouldn't recommend it. Some of the country is lovely, but the parts that aren't are REALLY bad.
Lol no it's not. Unless you're going to like Compton, South Chicago, or bumfuck nowhere Alabama the country is wonderful
Alabamian here. Yeah, parts of the state have amazing natural beauty or cool history, but some parts havent left the 20's.
TheShadowLloyd
Sometimes it's hard to differentiate the US from third world country criteria when it comes to corrupt/abusive authority.
And you know, all the other things that differentiate it from 3rd world countries
That scale refers more to quality of life than quality of people.
angrybeards
Once I got pulled into a TSA small room once. I set off the chemical sniffers since I worked in a garden department, the took samples 1/?
All around my clothing, and then did a comprehensive pat down. they kept pressing down on my shoulders telling me to relax. I'm 6'2"
the two agents were probably 5'4" and 5'6" they hurried after that and cleared me.
235 and square shouldered, I slung bricks and sacks of mulch for a living at the time, I merely stated "I am relaxed" very tersely
GodApollo
When the TSA security was tested 90% of agents managed to smuggle weapons through
now think of that 90% number in relation to all the stuff they do manage to find http://blog.tsa.gov/2016/01/tsa-2015-year-in-review.html
azureraptor
Your username gives me cause to believe you have considerable expertise in the matter. ;} I _loved_ the movie for TTSS.
ParanoidWithGoodCause
but they have a 100% record on stopping personal hygiene products and bottled water.
SubmitsRandomCrap
I managed to bring a couple bottles of shochu back in my carry on without realizing it until I was already on the plane a few years ago.
Genotex
Somehow reminds me of the story with a woman who wouldn't turn over her water bottle because the water was frozen. Technically not a liquid.
LtKifKroker
I accidentally brought my 5" folded knife inboard in my carry on. I only realized it after I was unpacking.
FamousOnce
A couple of loose shotshells here. Likewise, I didn't notice until I got home.
DowntownVegasEddie
I just put stuff in my shoes, it's always worked. Take off my shoes, stash shit in the shoes before putting it through, the've never checked
GunPonTooth
Authorities in the US be like.
5700
Excuse me sir or madam, do you have a moment to talk about our Lord and Saviour, Mace™?
ThePurpleMacaw
lol
The Axe effect. Sorry, sarcasm is the only way that prevents me from punching my fist through the monitor…
IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
is it ironic that this video is authorities not from the US?
NightingalesBlackAce
So? He said it was LIKE those in USA
He said that is what US Authorities are like. There is no "so?", I was just pointing out some amusing irony.
Here's identical one from NYC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ05rWx1pig
not exactly identical, but I wasn't saying the US wasn't guilty of this, just found it amusing
Hydrahawk
Pretty sure that isn't USA.
but this one is https://youtu.be/eU9Dx0x9h4A
sprbwlshuffler
What. The actual. Fuck?
IAmAGoodPerson
Let me guess. You believe this right?
All I did was ask a question.
Try looking at it differently: Person attempts to evade further screening after setting off metal detectors, is injured in the process.
Yeah, no. If they're so fucking stupid that they can't see why, they should absolutely not be in that line of work.
You are right. Cause no one has ever tricked them before. Oh wait. People have. Every cpl months......
TSA Thug Apologist here ^
But in that's sense he is right. What if they had a bomb and 200 kids died. Ppl put bombs in underwear. It happens. Don't resist
ermuhanyway
no one should get their head busted open
Yea. Not even people sneaking on bombs. It's not fair. And it never happens right???
ThatAssholeOverThere
Im pretty sure that wasn't the intended action when stopping someone running
Parent tries to explain situation. Held back while her child is beaten bloody. Thats a shit excuse an you know it.
She wasnt beaten. She was tackled, not the same thing
feel so much better.
Tackled from a wheelchair, so hard that when she hit the ground it split her head open. Im sure the fact that she wasn't "beaten" makes her
Im trying to say dont exaggerate to make the other side seem worse. You're no better than "reporters" who show out of context footage
Eyebrows split so easily. With out pain. It's really not that serious. Better safe then sorry? Or do you want another 9/11. Be realistic.
The TSA doesn't know anything at all about you, and expecting them to know you have X list of disabling conditions is retarded.
They abuse their power. Those that do should be punished, harshly.
Unless they did the same thing to prevent 9/11 right? Or were they just misunderstood too?
They don't actually provide any real protection. A bunch of studies have shown that 50-90% of contraband shit (guns, knives, etc) makes it
through. If they actually helped, it might be worth it. They don't.
ICantThinkOfAU
The mother was held back by police while attempting to explain the issues her daughter had, says so right in the post
Because terrorist wouldn't say the same thing right???
Did you think for half a second on WHEN she was trying to explain her daughter's issues? It certainly wasn't before she was screened.
Zetor
Classy: "It's her own fault, she should have checked before she got on the flight!"
TheKentuckySlasher
Fuck you
itsthevoiceman
It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying Beware of the Leopard.
it was seconds of googling away on the official TSA site.
She was probably drunk. Plus her skirt was short, what'd she expect?
BluePeaSoup
I've tried filing a complaint with the TSA... it's useless, no follow up, no accountability.
IridescentLotus
If you don't check then we are allowed to beat you down and ignore your claims
mrdude88
Well, you have to set off the metal detector and continue to ignore the TSA when they tell you to stop at the white line.
TuPeuxPasTest
Sorry to say that but, god America is a fucked up place.
Pieala
As if that would have done any good. It's reassuring that, although they fail 95% of their field tests, they can still take down a cripple.
raspymorten
"She was asking for it!"
Nk4512
She had a wierd look in her eye
miyamotorola
check your airport priviliges before getting a fist in your ass
lenomdeplume
She calls ahead...recorded message..."we employ mentally deficient sociopaths, enter at your own risk"
Vealor
Let us get that number so we can call the hell out of it!
QuestionableContent
While I'm usually for that, it's generally not the best idea to harass a division of homeland security
CarltonJames
Shut the fuck up stupid... It's a cancer called the police state. Nobody knows to call ahead about a screening process you dip shit
ChewableJim
http://cdn.hitfix.com/photos/5128125/A-Holes.gif
it is their fault
MechaNinja
Even worse: "It's a trip they've made 17 years".
Deathkeeper
She's 19, too. I can't imagine having to send your kid in for treatment at only 2 years old...
And then, when it's finally over!? The TSA gives her brain damage for no goddamn reason.
Fadedsun
"This time, an unarmed Hannah..." Was she armed previous times!?
GrizzlyWicks
yea thats why they were shocked, after all those times duel wielding miniguns she didnt think it would be an issue
ymgyr
They've been doin' this for about 17 year, okay? They don't need to call ahead, you know what I'm sayin'? No disrespect; that's how it is.
I mean, you'd think.
PigeonFace
That phrasing was awful
Sure, but at least it is clear this isn't exactly their first trip.
Poobydooby
i don't even know what that ment
oooooh wait it's because she's been going there several times for treatment for 17 years ok i get it now
retgarr
I just took a flight this morning with a freshly broken leg. Called ahead, clearly explained my situation at the checkpoint and the Tards1/2
I4got2ptinthecrystals
Calling ahead for special situations, is something they say to seem professional, reality is they're lazy morons ready to point fingers.
Yep, the airlines were on the ball. The TSAresponse when called was "we'll be able to help when you get there"
Standing around were still clueless. Kept asking me to do things that weren't physically possible, dogmatically sticking to inflexible 2
policy that didn't really make sense given the situation. I can definitely believe this happened to her.
Bystandr
Thats FUCKING BULLSHIT. She may have not been eloquent to cut through the TSAs low comprehension and communication skills but Im going to
go out on a limb and suggest that maybe they were told she had special needs before her face hit the floor. There should be an apology. Stat
Its possible Cohen wasnt fast enough on the explanation , but the way she words that , she was and they werent listening to her at all.
She was telling them as the confrontation happened. That's like explaining you have medical insurance after you get the bill.
As a Scandinavian, how would this not work? Isn't the idea of insurance to.. cover.. the bill..?
If thats the case then , I take it back , but to take her words literally "... tried to tell TSA agents .. but was kept at a distance."
And making disability arrangements ahead of time does NOT notify the specific agents screening you, so it wouldn't have even helped!
Accept that it does get you a personal escort who is also a uniformed screener that will personally explain the process while walking you
from curb to gate. It takes a 5 minute phone call to arrange and it's free to everyone.
lastminute
After being released from the hospital, I tried that, they were too busy no available wheelchairs (45min), connecting flight just as bad.
That happened to me once. I reserved it in advance (as always) but had to wait over an hour for assistance. Lucky I got there very early.
You made me curious, so I checked TSA's website. They just tell you to notify the agents as you arrive in line of accommodation needs.
No, it doesn't. The escorts I've had have never been TSA agents and were not allowed to assist/stay with me in walking through the scanner.
Maybe there are some airports for which the assistant is a TSA agent but I've never ever gone through one with that practice myself.
And I ALWAYS call & reserve assistance services in advance, but this is not part of the deal ever in my experience.
IconicNebula
Im not supporting TSA, but if shes going there for 17 years in a row I would think she wouldnt be confused when TSA starts to search her
it's possible that she hasn't previously had any staples or metal implants, so has never set off the metal detectors before.
Thats true
EmeraldLight
The brain tumor could have caused, yanno, BRAIN DAMAGE
Maybe. Maybe not. Maybe the Tumor is just a freeloader who doesnt want to pay rent. Or maybe its just a regular tumor.
401klurker
What bothers me is people know how tight security is now with all the bombings. If you know she 'special' well how about preparing yourself
DrJDX
Yay! Blame the person with the broken face! Maybe 17 years of experience told them things would probably be ok?
But I also want to know why the first instinct was to bear tackle her.
PeteTusk
"Oh no, we've scared a girl into running away from us. We're not in control! TACKLE HER TO THE GROUND!" Poorly trained + poor judgement.
I also want to know why everyone is downvoting me on the first comment I had a legitimate question with a back up claim.Imgur Rationatilty..
Sometimes Imgur downvoting seems a bit like arbitrary pack animal attacks.
BathroomHumor
"It's not our fault they weren't aware of our violent tendencies!" This is the sort of thing that makes people want to blow up airports.
I don't think you and I are in any manner of disagreement.
Annnnnd that's you on the no-fly list.
ChaosJoy
Ah want to but not actually do right. Because I think the actual bombers have different reasons.
YourOldPalStinkyWizzleteats
*Flagged*
This is a song about a whale...
ZombieZoidberg
and now I'll be added to the watch list to: just for agreeing with you.
BeatsBearsBattlestarGallactica
I worked on a show called "Osama the Hero" excellent show, but the email titles undoubtedly put the whole team on every single list.
Well the FBI won't catch me flying anywhere because I never leave my town, but if they add a TSA checkpoint to my front door, look out.
mgperkow
They can add me, too, if I'm supposed to think this is alright. Fuck the TSA.
cavemans
Alerting them that she does have issues with being touched could have made it easier but still even then. Not enough info in the article.
That did though. Read the article.
It did say she'd been making this journey for 17 years, and it should have been fairly obvious looking
Nothing involving disability is ever obvious
icameinlikeafeckingball
Not throwing a half paralysed person to the fucking ground kind of is really fucking obvious.
She's half paralyzed, when that poor girl started to walk away, while her mother was telling them, surely they could notice?
AlkeneThiol
I don't agree with tsa here, but playing devil's advocate, someone who wanted to perpetuate terror wouldn't be above faking a disability to
They notice, they probably assume she's smuggling contraband out of the state. (I have a steel plate in my leg)
LiterallyYourMom
If she weren't special needs, this wouldn't have happened! Clearly her fault, being all special needy like that.
If her mother weren't retarded, it wouldn't have happened. You tell the TSA important medical info BEFORE they start screening.
Danmango
Not telling them about importan medical info is a mistake on the costumer's part, but it shouldnt lead to having your head smashed down
You tell them about things like that beforehand because otherwise they can't be prepared to properly deal with them. Otherwise 1/2
You end up with security being confronted with someone who triggered the sensors and actively resists further screening while seeming to be
under the influence of a mind-altering substance. It doesn't help that the mother was reportedly screaming across the room as though that
would have helped at all.
You dont deserve the downvotes. Every airport ive ever seen has special pre-screening and/or escort by trained staff for special-needs ppl.
leodavinci1
And just how is anyone supposed to know about them? Never saw any notifications anywhere about theses aort
these sort of facilities when I flew. Just how bad does it have to get before people begin to realize the TSA is just another example of
By doing research before flying? Im guessing the mother didnt learn that her daughter was handicapped that morning.
literally 30 seconds on google. try "TSA Special needs" or "TSA pre-screening"
plebsquared
I'm not trying to cause a riot, but I feel like we're not getting the full story and maybe they're bending the truth.
ValoSaurusRex
I kind of felt like they had no way of knowing her situation (they arent telepathic) so when she acted crazy they treated her like a crazy.
Sounds like they were just doing their job. It's unfortunate they got hurt but they need to protect everyone in that airport, not just her.
I love how we get downvoted while looking at the other side of a very biased article.
took the words right out of my mouth
cheekysheikhy
Can't stop imgur's lynch mob now, they've already grabbed their pitchforks.
BookerTheBookkeeperHooker
Deliken
considering how many documented cases of TSA fuckups there are, as well as a track record of "0 terrorists apprehended" I think it's legit.
yeah, I'm going to go sauce this myself... I'll probably forget to report back with my findings though
NotHarrison
Other commenters are saying that she was beaten up. Her own mother said she was "put on the ground and hit her head" not tackled
It says "they had her on the ground and hit her head on the floor". A bit vague, could be either, but implies that they did do it.
TheDoctorAzAJ
Yes, why would their bags have gone on. In Australia if you don't board they remove your bags from the plane
JLimages
Ya, that is extreme potential hazard for that to occur.
Hedgehogsareadorable
that would make sense. but here in US bags go without you. a lot of times even on the wrong plane
reginawombat
In my experience, once you check your bag it goes on the plane regardless of whether or not you do.
ImguriansFillMySaltReservoir
"She's trying to get away from them but..." So you get stopped by TSA and your first instinct is flee?
And, of course, if you look at what the mother said she was doing, you can just hear the screamed "DON'T HURT MY BABY DAUGHTER"
She has brain damage from a brain tumor and is easily confused. Just as the story states. Read the fucking text you cunt.
but you can't expect the TSA personnel to know that just from looking at her
Because brain damage excuses criminal-like behavior. Genius!
So if you try to grab a Down's Syndrome kid and he flips out, he is a criminal? Use common sense you fuckwit.
If a police officer says stop, don't fucking run dumbshit
hoffbox
Taxes Siphoned Away
SpoonerGibbs
STOP RESISTING *POUND POUND POUND* STOP RESISTING!
whyisthisusernametaken
talenphillips
I'm waiting for someone to edit in a Nokia, and make it blow through the wall.
onepinksheep
Notify ahead of time if they have special needs? Apparently requiring TSA agents to not be cunts is a special need.
LosPer
I have a special need for them to go fuck themselves...
NoOneElseHasThisName
Hindsight is, as always, 20/20.....you go gurl, someday you'll amount to something. Like workin parttime at McDonalds....
idontknowgivemeaminute
This made me laugh. Thx.
IVlad
We need to start a movement, everyone booking a flight call ahead and inquire if the TSA at the airport are cunts and ask for accomodation
SauceyWench
Right? These should be people trained to read human behavior and have a gallon of common sense. Good lord.
ScrumdiddlyumptiousBar
According to the ADA they are supposed to be able to accommodate people with disabilities at all times. By that sound of it her disability 1
ScrumdiddlyumptiousBar
By the sound of it* her disability didn't even require them to make that many accommodations for her, if any. This isn't legal at all. 2
MoonFaceinc
'Pls don't ram my head into the floor'
mide8
Shit, I have that. Is there a phone number I should call or what?
MoonFaceinc
It's a lot to ask...
VodkaReindeer
That's not what it says.
mtotwuoc
That's what it implies
VodkaReindeer
The calling ahead suggested in the text is about the passengers informing themselves, not the TSA.
AnonOmis1000
Throwing a disabled (and, judging by the article, mentally disabled) girl to the ground and busting her head is a cunt move.
AvidNinjaHV7O
It doesn't even say "notify" it says "to learn more about the screening process" even worse... This is pretty ridiculous.
BipolarPenguin3
Tsa actually aren't supposed to touch passengers without permission. They are supposed to call the police. Probably police threw her down
Muttons1337
So I guess everytime they do a pat down, they call the police?
BipolarPenguin3
"Without permission." If the passenger doesn't agree to a pat down, they call the police.
Muttons1337
I overlooked the meaning behind "without permission". I do try to keep an open mind. There's a part of the story here we're not getting.
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AnonOmis1000
Let's be real here, it's not without precedence that TSA agents don't adhere to there own codes of conduct.
clnoy
Or any "security agent" tbh.
Bedovian
When my cousins youngest flew on a plane for the first time at 3 years old, he was wearing his favorite little overalls with metal (cont)
Bedovian
Suspenders. So naturally he set off the metal detector. TSA agent went apeshit on this little kid. Kept pulling him through the (cont)
Bedovian
Detector. All the while he's crying becsuse he's scared. Finally the TSA agents manager comes up and basically tells her to get bent. (cont)
Bedovian
Because any moron with two brain cells to rub together could tell it was his buttons causing the alarm to go off.
HereThereWhere
Ok. This is heartbreaking.
Vandammit
So I've flown into and out of Israel. You want to see how to run airport security check them out.
pelusita35
This is the truth.
Hybris51129
The problem is that in the US you can't use what Israel uses: Profiling.
Vandammit
No they don't, they honestly treat every person exactly the same. They look for issues in story and body language. Its the differences they~
Vandammit
Look for and profiling would actually hamper that effort.
oximofo9
That's doublespeak. Perception and Profiling are the only different in legal terms. Profiling is "illegal" because lawyers made it so.
terrorista31
Muslim? this way, Jew? that way, Arab? this way, Caucasian? that way
Browning11
My sister is blind. She traveled to orlando yesterday and the TSA agent refused to help guide her into the scanner after he took her cane.
Browning11
An airline pilot from Delta saw what was happening and proceeded to help my sister through security because they wouldn't let me.
Browning11
She was in hysterics because of the scene the TSA agent caused & was even more nervous about the flight. Flying is tough in these situations
SomethingCleverAndFunnyThatHasentBeenTaken
TL;DR The TSA beat up a 19 year old disabled girl and are getting away scot free.
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jevans88
You are the first person I've seen to point this out. Thank you for being a grown up and actually reading.
Masterrogue123
Welcome to America.
cominginhot
turn on the Bat signal
ProbablyDrunkAgain
*Airport Police, not TSA.
EpicYoshi
see this man knows how to read
ConorHooper
Aaaaaand Imgur is calling everyone a "retard" because they seem to lake any irony or self awareness.
swinglinered
Might have been a cop, not TSA. Also need doxxing.
MundaneFinality
Also, 19 year old girl, with no prior indication of special needs, resists questioning by authorities before boarding a plane, tries to /
MundaneFinality
/ escape, and is therefore forcibly detained by people whose job is to forcibly detain anyone who does not comply with safety measures
RegrettableUsername
Deaf, blind, AND a brain tumor - her ability to hear/process/respond may not be fast. That's not resisting.
murlokotam
stahp resisting!
Apolenge
I suffer from some mental issues that I fear can sometimes put me in similar situations. The look on her face is almost like looking into /1
Apolenge
a mirror. I just wish they were trained to be more understanding of certain situations, or have someone on staff who is. 2/2
SomePeopleSayThatCucumbersTasteBetterPickled
Phew. Well, I think we're all safer now. That was a close one though.
Valscorn
As someone who works security I hate when this shit happens. It makes everyone in this field look bad . Most of us are sane humans
inconspicuouselephant
Sane humans who willingly choose to be professional douche cunts? Get a more respected job.
icekraze
TSA is full of idiots. Had a broken ankle and was not allowed any weight on it. They took my crutches and then they told me to walk 1/2
GavinScreaming
TSA wanted me to take the cast off my broken wrist. Had to explain how a cast can't be removed whenever I want. Bunch fucktards
NationalistCanadianMooseWarrior
What the fucking shit. "Oh yeah sure lemme just bust out my cast saw and cut my fucking fibreglass cast off 1 sec"
icekraze
Over to the X-ray scanner. They also asked if I could take off my cast. Had tried to get a wheelchair escort prior only to have it cancelled
BlankMage
"Can you take off your cast?" "Oh sure, let me just pop the latch on this guy, should only- OF COURSE I CAN'T TAKE OFF THE FUCKING CAST!"
GeorgeSmiley
Ha I had a similar instance when I was on crutches and wearing a metal brace. Guy actually said Can't you walk on it for a little bit.
icekraze
It is crazy right? I had even told them I was completely non-weight baring. I ended up hoping over to the X-ray as they wouldn't 1/2
murlokotam
And you have a right to "opt out" of X-ray. They started to take that right away recently.
icekraze
Listen or give the crutches back. They almost didn't give them back after patting me down. Admittedly the women's English was pretty broken
icekraze
So maybe she didn't understand what I was saying. Still I feel like it something they must encounter all the time.
GeorgeSmiley
Had to do a work trip after having dislocated my patella. Was wearing a metal brace and on crutches. TSA agent tried to make me (1/2)
ShakeNbakemotherfucker
I've dislocated my knee twice. The muscles simply do not work afterwards. Fuck them, sorry for your experience :(
SinuousGrace
Why did you have to travel for work after such a nasty injury?
GeorgeSmiley
I was new on the job, junior, and was supposed to be going when I dislocated my patella. Trip was put off for a week.
GeorgeSmiley
Walk through the metal detector without crutches. He even said "can't you walk without them for a little bit". This was after I (2/3)
GeorgeSmiley
The metal brace would set off the detector anyways and I would need a pat down regardless
reijigin
This EXACT SAME THING happened to me. I told them over and over I could not walk unassisted and they just kept telling me I had to.
fredthebadger
That's one of the things where you're supposed to call ahead and tell them your medical needs.
reijigin
The advance arrangement for disabilities does *not* alert the specific agents in your security line. You deal with that when you get there.
GeorgeSmiley
funny, that was on the return flight. Flight out, tsa waived me to the side when I got to the screening line, had me sit, scanned my (1/2)
GeorgeSmiley
crutches, wanded me, patted down (carefully) my knee brace, and called one of the electric carts to bring me to my gate. Same (2/3)
NationalistCanadianMooseWarrior
How does that warrant calling ahead? Are they blind? They never heard of crutches before? Do they know what they're for?
RegrettableUsername
He could have at least put a plaque on them that read, "I USE THESE TO WALK."
DoctorOwly
Directly after I had my intestines removed and had an ostomy bag I had to take a plane home. Horrible pain and drugged up. I was terrified>
DoctorOwly
They'd make a big deal of my literal bag full of shit attached to me. Luckily they didn't even say anything. I guess I dodged a bullet.
scaleforbanana
I've always been terrified that'll happen to me, is it that bad?
RegrettableUsername
Could've been a real shitty situation . . . I'll see myself out.
Lugh314159
TSA is a shit job, of course it attracts shit people. If a nice person got a job as a TSA, they'd quit within a year.
artsystuff
Dealing with the public would make me quit after about 2 seconds.
humptyblargh
They don't so much 'deal with' as 'order about' and 'needlessly frustrate' and 'abuse' the public.
wrathbaby
They pay obnoxiously well for a painfully easy job. I mean if you are getting paid 20-30$/hr to do less work than a Starbucks Barista 1/2
DekkerEleven
I'm only getting 15 a hour (which is nice) but right now I'm in the process for a new job that's 25 a hour for training
wrathbaby
2/2 then you should be able to smile, listen, and think for a moment.
wrathbaby
Source: A couple of my old coworkers used to be TSA, they got laid off and would moan about how easy their old job was and they missed it.
BlondieShell
I've been with them for almost 3 years ☺️
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BlondieShell
Can't til I separate in sept. My airport is closing, plan on making a post then
YurgenGrimwood
Please do
BlondieShell
Haha if I do, ppl r just gunna find some reason to downvote and bash
ManMashine
Then you aren't a nice person :3
Telkesh
Australian ASO for 3 years, myself. no work stories because honestly it's boring.
thorkild91
Piece of shit.(I'm kidding to be clear. I'm sure you're lovely)
BlondieShell
☺️
SoraPonyBoyVersetti
A lovely piece of shit
mineovermatter
Give it time...eventually you'll either quit or become one of them (cue ominous music)
krenshala
(2) oh, and thank you for spelling cue correctly!
krenshala
Do do DoooOOoOoOOOoooOOooo
FryingMonkies
TSA. Stopped zero terrorist so far. Had 400 or so employees arrested for stealing. Increased all travel times. Beating handicapped people.
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Baja2185
Well, blowing up the WTC wasn't a constitutional right. And if you wanna ban things that kill people you'll have to start with alcohol,
Baja2185
Cars, and registered democrats ;)
stovokor80
If I were running for office, one of the first things I'd do is abolish the TSA. Huge waste of funds.
CycloneSP
so yer sayin you'd "make airports great again?" ;)
gurrlicious
I laughed! ????
ibb4cl2
Like that, those who sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither. And we shall have neither...
EpicYoshi
if u read right the cop was the one who tackled her, not the tsa employee
Halfton81
It's security theater, that's all. The appearance of security. Helps the fucking morons feel safe.
SnackMasterRanger
Hey did you watch adam ruins everything?
TheMightyDio
My friend took a trip to Europe and bought a sword. Didn't do anything fancy with it, just stuffed it in a suitcase. TSA didn't notice.
Corvus2606
if it isn't in carry on, they dont care. it isnt about stopping transport, it's about stopping weapons getting in to the cabin.
360Tableflip
Not to mention a densely packed line of hundreds of people in the TSA line is kind of an easy perfect target for terror attacks...
Demenster
Don't forget they were caught purposely increasing wait times several times across their entire network to acquire more funding to do it aga
kirstytriplet
But when the apocalypse comes whose going to have all the nail clippers and tweezers!I mean serious "weapons" like those!
ManMashine
Because there's no background checks. Which is why thiefs, rapists, childmoldesters and all kinds of scum is hired to bully you around.
desertbear87
They're required to be able to get a Secret clearance. So.... Yeah. Most of them are just fucktarded
sphincubus
Once Went on a trip to Hawaii with some friends. One has a metal hip and didn't trip the metal detector as he passed.
danishjuggler21
What about that guy with the bomb in his shoes?
marcusosappus
He was on a plane and was stopped by fellow passengers.
LanaSmith
the ... I forget the politically correct term for stewardess has stopped a few but they are not tsa
TheseAreNotTheHobbitsYourLookingFor
This is an absolutely unverifiable statement you have zero expertise on.
Iregretnothingexceptthisusername
Not a true statement
SOLDIERfortheweak
Guessing your main source of info is cnn.
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FirmAndPerkyIsBetterThanWideAndFat
Did they happen to be squirt guns?
FryingMonkies
Filled with vodka! They were really quick to confiscate my booze every time. Nukes? No problem. Booze? Oh we got that shit
kittybuttwiggle
What you said does not dispute any of what he said.
TrevHead
No one can verify any sources atm, but even if every agent pulled 4 handguns every two years that's gotta be, what, 30%-35% of attempts...?
avidday04
That needs to sink in - ZERO TERRORISTS and they routinely fail to find contraband when tested.
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Avofoolery
I worked for security. The terrorists have not succeeded because we stopped them.
elrey52
The illusion of security
mechanimated
It's called security theater, and the government does it when they don't know what to do but want to LOOK like they do for reelections.
D0cH0lliday
The government took their opportunity after 9/11 to seize as many rights and increase as much power as they could... 'cuz turruhrists'
GeorgeSmiley
new mandatory body scanners at all the airports was a nice little present for the company the makes them
murlokotam
for former head of tsa: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/23/fear_pays_chertoff_n_787711.html
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Placebo effect!
swatz
Lots of security is this way. I went to a ball game the ither day. Forgot my knife in my pocket, set off the sensor. Had to take it to mt <
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>truck. Went back in and told my r friends. They all laughed and pulled out their pocket knives. I had taken it 4 times before.
swatz
To make some people feel safe. After something like 9/11, could you imagine general public reaction if they didn't?
pancreas
stopping dangerous people from bringing nail clippers on a plane!
ManMashine
To prevent people from freely traveling around. Just one of many rights taken away after installing the "Patriot" act, which Obama expanded.
TheMonkeySpanker
Because sheeple NEED to be tricked into having that warm fuzzy feeling
LoTRFanatic42
~90% of weapons and drugs make it past them, according to the FBI.
shippsheroo
I helped a passenger check a new piece of luggage, because she was turned back for having a bar of soap Shaped like a gun. Thank God for TSA
CheshiresShadow
but at least they confiscated all those illegal kinder suprise eggs. :V
StarmanUltra
I can appreciate that. I accidentally brought on a pocket knife that was a wedding present from my brother.
NuggetDuster
Its shit like this that makes me oppose "watch lists." The fed is utterly worthless for protecting us.
HelGolfian
For real, I brought a metal pipe with weed in it right by them. It was an accident, forgot I had it, but for real. They had no idea.
davidbowieeyes
Ditto & a pen knife- had a heart attack when I found them, couldn't believe my stupidity & luck
AmbiguousGardens
Yet I can't get past commons with a pack of cigars
azazyel
I smoke and had a delay so I had to go through security every time I smoked. It took 5 times before anyone noticed I had a full bottle of liquid in my backpack which they scanned every single time.
GoCorral
Source? They past about tons of stuff they find every week on their blog.
EpicYoshi
tsa is not looking for drugs only for explosives and any parts that can make a bomb
gtmiller
They are paid to look like the area is secure. Other airports all over the world are much more secure.
EpicYoshi
I work for tsa and we are paid to look for explosives and obvious threats, we are not LE
gtmiller
Obvious threats are not realistic ones. Its not that you are dumb, but you lack the training.
SnackMasterRanger
Security theater!
EpicYoshi
LE looks for everything even drugs
FryingMonkies
Yeah my dad used to fly for delta and told me about a test the fbi ran. Like 96 out of a hundred agents got through with obvious weapons
Mayralejandraaaa
Well thats fucking scary then
Spinzaku
Yeah. Its called "security theater" by those who realize how useless it is. Its really there to make people feel safe, in practicr..useless.
PotatoIsland
They can't find weapons, but they took my plastic keychain of a spaceship because I could kill the pilot with it.
StoicJ
Buddy bought a cane with a sword in it for a trip out of country, knew they wouldnt find it. he was right, there and back.
fuckpowerlevelsfucksupersaiyansandfuckyou
I got a compound bow that can drop a horse, with a couple dozen arrows, through without complaint
imshibagel
Literally impossible to prove they haven't stopped terrorists if terrorists have looked to other methods to avoid TSA.
maythedoctorbewithyou
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3105820/EXPOSED-dozens-explosives-weapons-TSA-checkpoints-95-PERCENT-undercover-airport-tests.html
gtmiller
We have a good proxy with Air Marshals and the FBI testing them. They failed miserably.
jackketch
I think a better way for them to phrase it would be that they have caught zero terrorists. The TSA might have deterred hijacking attempts.
imshibagel
Agreed. It's like making a general statement such as "gun control does nothing." Ok well, ANY gun control measure or things like banning?
C4Vi
Or make an extreme: "Nuclear bomb control does nothing" (It's an extreme, don't come telling me it's an exaggeration, **that's the point**)
C4Vi
Well... That depends a lot too. They aren't terrorists until they do an act of terror. Just as a would-be murderer needs to kill first.
C4Vi
So the only terrorists they can actually catch are "repeat offenders".
xxdsidexx
we need the tsa to protect us from medically and physically disabled terrorists....
GravyNightmare
anyone can be a terrorist
LongoloidFartExplosion
Abu Hamza?
WilwoWaggins
Give some people authority and they forget that they and we are both human.
Robocop88
They don't have authority but are under the assumption they do, which is one of their many problems
TwoSeamer
Back in Czech it's called something like "doorman complex." You give an idiot a little of authority over a small thing, they abuse it
comfortableshoes
+1 This. This is a growing problem these days.
fafnir77
I was a C.O. for four years, and I still think ex convicts are sub human. It's something in actively trting to overcome though.
Beegeezee505
I work in home health care. I too think my customers are sub human. I go into the most vile of living conditions.
mynameisntfuckinwarren
Correction. They are not human. Not anymore. Either they forgot how or they just gave up.
AccountCreatedToUpdogVotes
You think TSA agents are humans?
Beegeezee505
Lol and rofl.
WilwoWaggins
They fall within the spectrum.
LemonFanta
Absolute power corrupts... absolutely?
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LemonFanta
Sure, that too.
swinglinered
... is great
thedharmabums
The Stanford Experiment touches on that beautifully.
PooPooInSpaghettiEveryoneUpsetti
I talked about this like 1 day ago. Sometime, it's like Imgur is spying me.
Treblaine
I think it's more a statistical selection bias, 600 million passengers annual, you're looking at one incident.
thedharmabums
I'm more talking about giving every day people power over their peers and watching for a psychological change. No experiment required.
Treblaine
I know the Standford Experiment, you only know with hindsight she's a sick girl and wasn't an addict who'd walked in with a weapon.
Treblaine
You seem unwilling to see how this is an innocent mistake, they can't just let ANYONE away after they set off a metal detector.
Treblaine
This is not power abused, this is a freak accident, one in a billion odds of misunderstanding and chaotic arrest, not "OMG they're nazis!"
aDapperBear
Ah hell. I'm a born and raised memphian. This does not help with our image. Although it wasn't that great to begin with :(
hillarymuff
Germantown?
aDapperBear
Cordova and currently Cooper/Young
tb24601
Right? Born and raised Memphian here as well. Raleigh/Frayser. Moved to Colorado in 2008. Miss my family but not the town.
PolaroidDickBandit
IM IN MEMPHIS INTERNATIONAL AS I TYPE THIS. GREAT TO KNOW
freedomfight
I live in Memphis, I fly out of there monthly, just got back from Dublin today. Unreal
RexBry
You're fine as long as you're not disabled. Or white. Or black. Or talk differently. On second thought, you should probably walk.
UltimateUmbreon
I wish you luck.
Magsnificent
It's still safer inside the airport than outside of it. South Memphis ain't the place to hang out.
SoraPonyBoyVersetti
Say hello TO THE GROUND
DrWuTangClanSr
Security guards are ppl who couldnt be cops. TSA agents are ppl who couldnt become security guards.
jjberry522
Im a security gaurd, they are not even close to the same thing. I dont wanna be a cop either. Its just a good stable job.
MyFavoriteThingtoDoisFlakeOnPlans
>gaurd
retnaburn
I'm security, I never wanted to be a cop. Just sayin'.
zeradeth
I'm a security guard because the pay is nice and the job is easy :/ I have no desire to be a police officer. I respect the hell out of 1/2
zeradeth
2/2 police officers, but I would never want the responsibility that comes with a badge.
MarinShatterhand
Well, I'm a security officer, I want to be a TSA because it pays more but also cop because it pays more. Just not old enough or have XP.
swinglinered
You can get extra XP from grinding.
TheDivineUsersub
I'm guessing you don't know any security guards. Many of them are retired cops or soldiers.
BigFloppyPancakes
3. is incredibly low.
RipleysBelieveItOrDie
Looked at the job requirements for them, absolutely no education or work experience required.
Salpinus
I'm a security guard. I don't want to be a cop, I study Limnology and have it as a part time job. Few of my coworkers want to be cops btw
WhitePhoenix
That's some ivory tower logic bruh. Most security guards I know are just people who are eking out a living.
TriggeredPrivilege
I've been in security 14 years. I've never wanted to be a cop. Try again, cool guy.
MedicSailor
True, TSA are pieces of shit, but it's not even on the individuals as much as the admin and how it's run. They aren't security though.
Lizaderp
That's rude and bullshit. I'm in security because I hope to become the cops the country actually needs.
Lizaderp
We're the first to put ourselves in danger and we have to make the decision whether or not to even get cops involved. It's intense.
davecoulierssuperfullhousefanclub
K I'm a security guard and it's a summer job bunch of my coworkers are veterans who do it full time this is unnecessary
NuggetDuster
None of the blueshirts are even TSA employees, they are "contractors." Reqs to get in are lit a GED or HS Diploma. 1/?
NuggetDuster
There are only 1-2 actual TSA employees in an airport at any given time, usually the distracted, rude, suit-wearing "managers." 2/?
NuggetDuster
Rest assured, Blue-shirts are underpaid, scum suckers who face no punishment for beatdowns, theft, talking back, or selling your X-rays. 3/3
BigFloppyPancakes
2. agent is less vetted than a security guard, actually much more so. But the organization itself is dumb as fuck and employee satisfaction
BigFloppyPancakes
1. The interview process to work in the TSA is long as hell, lots of interviews (and a xray aptitude test). I don't think the standard
DannMoreno
I was unemployed and applied to TSA. They said I was over qualified. FYI... I work in logistics. No security training at all.!!
GenetheCook
Not to undermine what happened in this instance, but you shouldn't generalize. I knew a teacher in high school who worked from 4 to 8 in 1/2
GenetheCook
the morning to pay for his bills and daughter's college loans. These people were stupid, but don't assume all TSA agents are like that.
mineovermatter
Ok...only 99.5% then.
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MrScottBakula
Don't listen to these people. There are few things more valuable to a business or school than good security personnel.
IKilledKennyAndIAmABastard
Same! I'm also a security officer! I love my job. I don't want to be a cop. I'm just trying to put myself through college.
WhitePhoenix
I agree, I don't know why the OP of the original comment thread is getting so many upvotes. We need security guards just like any other job
kentk94
No, no they're not. I know a lot of security folks that start here, then become cops. Stop generalizing...
MedicSailor
I gotta stop you there, that's not true for even 50%. I was active duty, honorable discharge and I did private security and could be a cop.
samsonguy920
Actually a fair amount of security guards are cops making more for home, or retired cops trying to make up for their shit pension.
finantheagile
TSA: least amount of power, most amount of sass
drowningfishy
::Security guard opens her mouth to say something, realizes why she first almost went to college and closes it:: BTW I hate TSA too.
Avofoolery
As a former TSA officer it's actually harder than you think
SuwinTzi
As someone who's BSIS certified security guard, I take offense to that. Security guards have nothing that allows them to treat pple this way
juliastarfire
From someone who use to be a SO. No. Never wished to be a cop. These guys are fucking assholes and deserve to lose their jobs. Period.
Mooncheeses
I could be a cop, this isn't some lame 90's movie.
greasymustache
Do they get Healthcare? If so, does it cover this nasty burn?
Shewy92
I'm a fake security guard. By that I mean I have no gun and make $11/hr. But I was an Air Force Cop so what does that make me?
Salpinus
You're not fake because you don't have a gun. Our cops don't have guns (on them, they do in the cars however). Here is Norway btw :)
Salpinus
*And I'm a security guard who's dealt with A LOT of troubled people :p No need for a gun, just patience and being calm
DarkLordCalladus
Most of them couldn't even cut it as a Walmart greeter...
Schmedes
Hey, the greeters at my Walmart are really nice. Don't be a cunt, I bet you wouldn't be kept as a greeter either.
TekPriest1975
That's because the Walmart greeters at least have social skills of some sort.
LearnedCoward
That's because you don't greet people by slamming their heads into the ground
ImaSithDuh
I don't think they could cut it as a doorstop.
Engelic
Not with the high bar Hodor set
BuffingtonRumbleberries
Nobody could, have you seen the bar for doorstops lately?
DaShaka9
I don't think they could cut it as a fart
Shrekscoped420
Now imagine how incompetent and stupid the average security guard is... now weep for humanity.
codenameblack
I rather weep for humanity because of your uninformed comment.
Shrekscoped420
name on security guard that isn't A) Over 300lbs or B) a high school drop out, you can't. if you say yourself, you are lying.
codenameblack
Myself, 85 kg got myself trough college guess what, to become a security guard in my country you need to have atleast a MBO 2 diploma. 1/2
codenameblack
Same can be said for my co-workers except for 2. Stop selling yourself bs 2/2
Nick9265
My friend, who is 6' 160 pounds and ex military I guess is an exception to the rule then? You only make yourself look dumb.
Shrekscoped420
These are people that are too incompetent to be police officers. Let that fact sink in for a second.
akshually
TSA and security guards are not the same. Security guards are people.
OtterAvalanche
Appreciate it sir. I'm a guard myself and I know my job isn't serious... I just try to stop people from hurting themselves, mostly.
drowningfishy
It's amazing, even after 8 years of being security, how many people get pissed when we try to keep them safe. No coffee and servers-NM...
akshually
When I was a guard we were closer to glorified hospitality. Weren't even expected to be armed. Comparisons to cops annoy me
endg4me
As a security guard, I agree. We're just here to enforce client rules as much as people think we're going out of our way to piss you off.
codenameblack
As another security guard, well said!
TriggeredPrivilege
As a security manager, yes this.
BeastyBill88
S/O here aswell its nice to see other people in security feeling the same way.
TinySupreme
Even tho sometimes client rules are dumb as fuck. We can't even initiate a stop for shoplifters.
endg4me
As security, presence is wanted more than total enforcement where I work. Wasn't the same when I worked at Best Buy. I know how you feel.
micmic00
As another guard so much this.
timeloveandyarn
Last time I flew TSA thought my back fat was a bomb and gave me 2 extra pat downs. Then I had to explain to the guy scanning my carry on 1/2
timeloveandyarn
what EXACTLY my diva cup was and what it was for because he thought that looked suspicious too.
chipmunkshavenuts
"That does look suspicious. See what it smells like."
Flyndaran
T.S.A. story I remember brutalized a traveller with a rectal surgical "thing" because their in house doctor hadn't heard of it. 1/2
Flyndaran
It's someting known for centuries to deal with rectal fistulas. So even their doctors are fucking morons.
backstabbr1001
You know, as a brown guy; watching the way you guys treat your own people is scary and makes me not wanna visit the states.
NoDanaOnlyZuuuuul
Just visit one of the good states, like...uh...like uhhhhhhh. Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..........
HiImMattIFuckUpMostThings
You're not missing much.
GiantRobotsRule
Just stay North of the Mason-Dixon line. Or better yet, the Canadian border.
marcusosappus
Yeah, like Chicago or Detroit. Great idea! Ever heard the term Southern Hospitality?
GiantRobotsRule
IMichigan & Illinois both outrank most of the deep South in quality of life measures (poverty,life expectancy,uninsured rate,education, etc)
marcusosappus
Ummm OK. I just pointed out how there are not so great spots up North too. But try visiting the South sometime. You may change your mind.
cerulee
If you have to fly in, it's really not worth it.
NationalistCanadianMooseWarrior
The border guards are enough for me. Headed south they're always incredibly rude.
TruthHurtsEh
Don't it's a shit hole. Don't give them your money stand back and watch it destroy itself.
The1stBellicose
Come to Canada.
Ihavewaytoomanyfavoritestosort
You are one of "our own people." Unless you're a manatee, we're all the same species.
HieronymousFlex
Yeah, wouldn't recommend it. Some of the country is lovely, but the parts that aren't are REALLY bad.
GavinScreaming
Lol no it's not. Unless you're going to like Compton, South Chicago, or bumfuck nowhere Alabama the country is wonderful
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Alabamian here. Yeah, parts of the state have amazing natural beauty or cool history, but some parts havent left the 20's.
TheShadowLloyd
Sometimes it's hard to differentiate the US from third world country criteria when it comes to corrupt/abusive authority.
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GavinScreaming
And you know, all the other things that differentiate it from 3rd world countries
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TheMajesticHarpyEagle
That scale refers more to quality of life than quality of people.
angrybeards
Once I got pulled into a TSA small room once. I set off the chemical sniffers since I worked in a garden department, the took samples 1/?
angrybeards
All around my clothing, and then did a comprehensive pat down. they kept pressing down on my shoulders telling me to relax. I'm 6'2"
angrybeards
the two agents were probably 5'4" and 5'6" they hurried after that and cleared me.
angrybeards
235 and square shouldered, I slung bricks and sacks of mulch for a living at the time, I merely stated "I am relaxed" very tersely
GodApollo
When the TSA security was tested 90% of agents managed to smuggle weapons through
GeorgeSmiley
now think of that 90% number in relation to all the stuff they do manage to find http://blog.tsa.gov/2016/01/tsa-2015-year-in-review.html
azureraptor
Your username gives me cause to believe you have considerable expertise in the matter. ;} I _loved_ the movie for TTSS.
ParanoidWithGoodCause
but they have a 100% record on stopping personal hygiene products and bottled water.
SubmitsRandomCrap
I managed to bring a couple bottles of shochu back in my carry on without realizing it until I was already on the plane a few years ago.
Genotex
Somehow reminds me of the story with a woman who wouldn't turn over her water bottle because the water was frozen. Technically not a liquid.
LtKifKroker
I accidentally brought my 5" folded knife inboard in my carry on. I only realized it after I was unpacking.
FamousOnce
A couple of loose shotshells here. Likewise, I didn't notice until I got home.
DowntownVegasEddie
I just put stuff in my shoes, it's always worked. Take off my shoes, stash shit in the shoes before putting it through, the've never checked
GunPonTooth
Authorities in the US be like.
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SomePeopleSayThatCucumbersTasteBetterPickled
Excuse me sir or madam, do you have a moment to talk about our Lord and Saviour, Mace™?
ThePurpleMacaw
lol
ManMashine
The Axe effect. Sorry, sarcasm is the only way that prevents me from punching my fist through the monitor…
IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
is it ironic that this video is authorities not from the US?
NightingalesBlackAce
So? He said it was LIKE those in USA
IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
He said that is what US Authorities are like. There is no "so?", I was just pointing out some amusing irony.
murlokotam
Here's identical one from NYC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ05rWx1pig
IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
not exactly identical, but I wasn't saying the US wasn't guilty of this, just found it amusing
Hydrahawk
Pretty sure that isn't USA.
murlokotam
but this one is https://youtu.be/eU9Dx0x9h4A
NightingalesBlackAce
So? He said it was LIKE those in USA
sprbwlshuffler
What. The actual. Fuck?
IAmAGoodPerson
Let me guess. You believe this right?
sprbwlshuffler
All I did was ask a question.
fredthebadger
Try looking at it differently: Person attempts to evade further screening after setting off metal detectors, is injured in the process.
NationalistCanadianMooseWarrior
Yeah, no. If they're so fucking stupid that they can't see why, they should absolutely not be in that line of work.
IAmAGoodPerson
You are right. Cause no one has ever tricked them before. Oh wait. People have. Every cpl months......
SinuousGrace
TSA Thug Apologist here ^
IAmAGoodPerson
But in that's sense he is right. What if they had a bomb and 200 kids died. Ppl put bombs in underwear. It happens. Don't resist
ermuhanyway
no one should get their head busted open
IAmAGoodPerson
Yea. Not even people sneaking on bombs. It's not fair. And it never happens right???
ThatAssholeOverThere
Im pretty sure that wasn't the intended action when stopping someone running
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Parent tries to explain situation. Held back while her child is beaten bloody. Thats a shit excuse an you know it.
ThatAssholeOverThere
She wasnt beaten. She was tackled, not the same thing
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
feel so much better.
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Tackled from a wheelchair, so hard that when she hit the ground it split her head open. Im sure the fact that she wasn't "beaten" makes her
ThatAssholeOverThere
Im trying to say dont exaggerate to make the other side seem worse. You're no better than "reporters" who show out of context footage
IAmAGoodPerson
Eyebrows split so easily. With out pain. It's really not that serious. Better safe then sorry? Or do you want another 9/11. Be realistic.
fredthebadger
The TSA doesn't know anything at all about you, and expecting them to know you have X list of disabling conditions is retarded.
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
They abuse their power. Those that do should be punished, harshly.
IAmAGoodPerson
Unless they did the same thing to prevent 9/11 right? Or were they just misunderstood too?
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
They don't actually provide any real protection. A bunch of studies have shown that 50-90% of contraband shit (guns, knives, etc) makes it
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
through. If they actually helped, it might be worth it. They don't.
ICantThinkOfAU
The mother was held back by police while attempting to explain the issues her daughter had, says so right in the post
IAmAGoodPerson
Because terrorist wouldn't say the same thing right???
fredthebadger
Did you think for half a second on WHEN she was trying to explain her daughter's issues? It certainly wasn't before she was screened.
Zetor
Classy: "It's her own fault, she should have checked before she got on the flight!"
TheKentuckySlasher
Fuck you
itsthevoiceman
It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying Beware of the Leopard.
fredthebadger
it was seconds of googling away on the official TSA site.
SauceyWench
She was probably drunk. Plus her skirt was short, what'd she expect?
BluePeaSoup
I've tried filing a complaint with the TSA... it's useless, no follow up, no accountability.
IridescentLotus
If you don't check then we are allowed to beat you down and ignore your claims
mrdude88
Well, you have to set off the metal detector and continue to ignore the TSA when they tell you to stop at the white line.
TuPeuxPasTest
Sorry to say that but, god America is a fucked up place.
Pieala
As if that would have done any good. It's reassuring that, although they fail 95% of their field tests, they can still take down a cripple.
raspymorten
"She was asking for it!"
Nk4512
She had a wierd look in her eye
miyamotorola
check your airport priviliges before getting a fist in your ass
lenomdeplume
She calls ahead...recorded message..."we employ mentally deficient sociopaths, enter at your own risk"
Vealor
Let us get that number so we can call the hell out of it!
QuestionableContent
While I'm usually for that, it's generally not the best idea to harass a division of homeland security
CarltonJames
Shut the fuck up stupid... It's a cancer called the police state. Nobody knows to call ahead about a screening process you dip shit
ChewableJim
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EpicYoshi
it is their fault
MechaNinja
Even worse: "It's a trip they've made 17 years".
Deathkeeper
She's 19, too. I can't imagine having to send your kid in for treatment at only 2 years old...
MechaNinja
And then, when it's finally over!? The TSA gives her brain damage for no goddamn reason.
Fadedsun
"This time, an unarmed Hannah..." Was she armed previous times!?
GrizzlyWicks
yea thats why they were shocked, after all those times duel wielding miniguns she didnt think it would be an issue
ymgyr
They've been doin' this for about 17 year, okay? They don't need to call ahead, you know what I'm sayin'? No disrespect; that's how it is.
MechaNinja
I mean, you'd think.
PigeonFace
That phrasing was awful
MechaNinja
Sure, but at least it is clear this isn't exactly their first trip.
Poobydooby
i don't even know what that ment
Poobydooby
oooooh wait it's because she's been going there several times for treatment for 17 years ok i get it now
retgarr
I just took a flight this morning with a freshly broken leg. Called ahead, clearly explained my situation at the checkpoint and the Tards1/2
I4got2ptinthecrystals
Calling ahead for special situations, is something they say to seem professional, reality is they're lazy morons ready to point fingers.
retgarr
Yep, the airlines were on the ball. The TSAresponse when called was "we'll be able to help when you get there"
retgarr
Standing around were still clueless. Kept asking me to do things that weren't physically possible, dogmatically sticking to inflexible 2
retgarr
policy that didn't really make sense given the situation. I can definitely believe this happened to her.
Bystandr
Thats FUCKING BULLSHIT. She may have not been eloquent to cut through the TSAs low comprehension and communication skills but Im going to
Bystandr
go out on a limb and suggest that maybe they were told she had special needs before her face hit the floor. There should be an apology. Stat
Bystandr
Its possible Cohen wasnt fast enough on the explanation , but the way she words that , she was and they werent listening to her at all.
fredthebadger
She was telling them as the confrontation happened. That's like explaining you have medical insurance after you get the bill.
Genotex
As a Scandinavian, how would this not work? Isn't the idea of insurance to.. cover.. the bill..?
Bystandr
If thats the case then , I take it back , but to take her words literally "... tried to tell TSA agents .. but was kept at a distance."
reijigin
And making disability arrangements ahead of time does NOT notify the specific agents screening you, so it wouldn't have even helped!
jevans88
Accept that it does get you a personal escort who is also a uniformed screener that will personally explain the process while walking you
jevans88
from curb to gate. It takes a 5 minute phone call to arrange and it's free to everyone.
lastminute
After being released from the hospital, I tried that, they were too busy no available wheelchairs (45min), connecting flight just as bad.
reijigin
That happened to me once. I reserved it in advance (as always) but had to wait over an hour for assistance. Lucky I got there very early.
reijigin
You made me curious, so I checked TSA's website. They just tell you to notify the agents as you arrive in line of accommodation needs.
reijigin
No, it doesn't. The escorts I've had have never been TSA agents and were not allowed to assist/stay with me in walking through the scanner.
reijigin
Maybe there are some airports for which the assistant is a TSA agent but I've never ever gone through one with that practice myself.
reijigin
And I ALWAYS call & reserve assistance services in advance, but this is not part of the deal ever in my experience.
IconicNebula
Im not supporting TSA, but if shes going there for 17 years in a row I would think she wouldnt be confused when TSA starts to search her
Corvus2606
it's possible that she hasn't previously had any staples or metal implants, so has never set off the metal detectors before.
IconicNebula
Thats true
EmeraldLight
The brain tumor could have caused, yanno, BRAIN DAMAGE
IconicNebula
Maybe. Maybe not. Maybe the Tumor is just a freeloader who doesnt want to pay rent. Or maybe its just a regular tumor.
401klurker
What bothers me is people know how tight security is now with all the bombings. If you know she 'special' well how about preparing yourself
DrJDX
Yay! Blame the person with the broken face! Maybe 17 years of experience told them things would probably be ok?
IconicNebula
But I also want to know why the first instinct was to bear tackle her.
PeteTusk
"Oh no, we've scared a girl into running away from us. We're not in control! TACKLE HER TO THE GROUND!" Poorly trained + poor judgement.
IconicNebula
I also want to know why everyone is downvoting me on the first comment I had a legitimate question with a back up claim.Imgur Rationatilty..
PeteTusk
Sometimes Imgur downvoting seems a bit like arbitrary pack animal attacks.
BathroomHumor
"It's not our fault they weren't aware of our violent tendencies!" This is the sort of thing that makes people want to blow up airports.
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BathroomHumor
I don't think you and I are in any manner of disagreement.
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raspymorten
Annnnnd that's you on the no-fly list.
ChaosJoy
Ah want to but not actually do right. Because I think the actual bombers have different reasons.
YourOldPalStinkyWizzleteats
*Flagged*
BathroomHumor
This is a song about a whale...
ZombieZoidberg
and now I'll be added to the watch list to: just for agreeing with you.
BeatsBearsBattlestarGallactica
I worked on a show called "Osama the Hero" excellent show, but the email titles undoubtedly put the whole team on every single list.
BathroomHumor
Well the FBI won't catch me flying anywhere because I never leave my town, but if they add a TSA checkpoint to my front door, look out.
mgperkow
They can add me, too, if I'm supposed to think this is alright. Fuck the TSA.
cavemans
Alerting them that she does have issues with being touched could have made it easier but still even then. Not enough info in the article.
NationalistCanadianMooseWarrior
That did though. Read the article.
PigeonFace
It did say she'd been making this journey for 17 years, and it should have been fairly obvious looking
LearnedCoward
Nothing involving disability is ever obvious
icameinlikeafeckingball
Not throwing a half paralysed person to the fucking ground kind of is really fucking obvious.
PigeonFace
She's half paralyzed, when that poor girl started to walk away, while her mother was telling them, surely they could notice?
AlkeneThiol
I don't agree with tsa here, but playing devil's advocate, someone who wanted to perpetuate terror wouldn't be above faking a disability to
lastminute
They notice, they probably assume she's smuggling contraband out of the state. (I have a steel plate in my leg)
LiterallyYourMom
If she weren't special needs, this wouldn't have happened! Clearly her fault, being all special needy like that.
fredthebadger
If her mother weren't retarded, it wouldn't have happened. You tell the TSA important medical info BEFORE they start screening.
Danmango
Not telling them about importan medical info is a mistake on the costumer's part, but it shouldnt lead to having your head smashed down
fredthebadger
You tell them about things like that beforehand because otherwise they can't be prepared to properly deal with them. Otherwise 1/2
fredthebadger
You end up with security being confronted with someone who triggered the sensors and actively resists further screening while seeming to be
fredthebadger
under the influence of a mind-altering substance. It doesn't help that the mother was reportedly screaming across the room as though that
fredthebadger
would have helped at all.
MundaneFinality
You dont deserve the downvotes. Every airport ive ever seen has special pre-screening and/or escort by trained staff for special-needs ppl.
leodavinci1
And just how is anyone supposed to know about them? Never saw any notifications anywhere about theses aort
leodavinci1
And just how is anyone supposed to know about them? Never saw any notifications anywhere about theses aort
leodavinci1
these sort of facilities when I flew. Just how bad does it have to get before people begin to realize the TSA is just another example of
MundaneFinality
By doing research before flying? Im guessing the mother didnt learn that her daughter was handicapped that morning.
fredthebadger
literally 30 seconds on google. try "TSA Special needs" or "TSA pre-screening"
plebsquared
I'm not trying to cause a riot, but I feel like we're not getting the full story and maybe they're bending the truth.
ValoSaurusRex
I kind of felt like they had no way of knowing her situation (they arent telepathic) so when she acted crazy they treated her like a crazy.
GravyNightmare
Sounds like they were just doing their job. It's unfortunate they got hurt but they need to protect everyone in that airport, not just her.
ValoSaurusRex
I love how we get downvoted while looking at the other side of a very biased article.
GravyNightmare
took the words right out of my mouth
cheekysheikhy
Can't stop imgur's lynch mob now, they've already grabbed their pitchforks.
BookerTheBookkeeperHooker
took the words right out of my mouth
Deliken
considering how many documented cases of TSA fuckups there are, as well as a track record of "0 terrorists apprehended" I think it's legit.
ermuhanyway
yeah, I'm going to go sauce this myself... I'll probably forget to report back with my findings though
NotHarrison
Other commenters are saying that she was beaten up. Her own mother said she was "put on the ground and hit her head" not tackled
chipmunkshavenuts
It says "they had her on the ground and hit her head on the floor". A bit vague, could be either, but implies that they did do it.
TheDoctorAzAJ
Yes, why would their bags have gone on. In Australia if you don't board they remove your bags from the plane
JLimages
Ya, that is extreme potential hazard for that to occur.
Hedgehogsareadorable
that would make sense. but here in US bags go without you. a lot of times even on the wrong plane
reginawombat
In my experience, once you check your bag it goes on the plane regardless of whether or not you do.
ImguriansFillMySaltReservoir
"She's trying to get away from them but..." So you get stopped by TSA and your first instinct is flee?
fredthebadger
And, of course, if you look at what the mother said she was doing, you can just hear the screamed "DON'T HURT MY BABY DAUGHTER"
inconspicuouselephant
She has brain damage from a brain tumor and is easily confused. Just as the story states. Read the fucking text you cunt.
GravyNightmare
but you can't expect the TSA personnel to know that just from looking at her
ImguriansFillMySaltReservoir
Because brain damage excuses criminal-like behavior. Genius!
inconspicuouselephant
So if you try to grab a Down's Syndrome kid and he flips out, he is a criminal? Use common sense you fuckwit.
ImguriansFillMySaltReservoir
If a police officer says stop, don't fucking run dumbshit