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jwillywill
Choiced
Oh shit, the whole clip! It usually gets cut off before he says that he believes the issue stems from Jewish values.
Shawnofavitch
6-Day war 1967 Trigger: Rising regional tensions, Egypt closing the Straits of Tiran, and troop buildups on Israel's borders
Preemptive Strike: Israel launched a surprise air assault (Operation Focus) that destroyed most of Egypt's air force on the ground.
Territorial Gains: Israel captured the Sinai Peninsula and Gaza Strip from Egypt, the West Bank and East Jerusalem from Jordan, and the Golan Heights from Syria.
Does anyone remember Israel getting invaded 2023 to start this ball rolling.
veronicablood
I wept when i heard the news of the October attack, because I'd read "The Haj" and i knew that the Israelis would use it as an excuse to kill every man, woman, child, pet, and house plant in gaza. Dumbest move since 9/11.
TimmyTimm
Just tip of the iceberg (without the killing):
smellsmiketeenspirit
Last I heard, the "right" is spinning it like this: okay, it's a genocide, but it's because Iran is usingHamas to force Israel's hands so that's why it's not Israel's fault and why Iran must be bombed.
pandajack
But they insist that the state of Israel and it's actions have absolutely nothing to do with Judaism. So how can it be anti-Semitic?
EmanNiemThcin
Well, that is a very specific kind of war "Vernichtungskrieg" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_annihilation
scullette
I take your point, but does the aftermath of war not also look like that?
iusedtodream
Irrelevant. What it can be compared to is not what it is. And what it is is systematic massacre of Palestinian people. It's genocide. Full stop.
EmeRgencyDrD
Fuck Israel!
OutboardOverlord
If it wasn't for the suffering it would cause, I would suggest doing the same to Israel. As fucking payback.
WebMaka
The problem with one group deciding to exterminate another is that either they succeed, or everyone else has to gang up on them to stop them. So either lots of people on both sides die or everyone on one side dies. How anyone can see the genocide of a militarily inferior group as a morally superior position is just bewildering to me...
MrAcurite
Carl von Clausewitz concludes that war is composed of three things; violence, calculation, and chaos. Without violence, calculation and chaos is politics as usual. Without calculation, violence and chaos is just a bar fight. Without chaos, violence and calculation is a genocide. And there is no chaos in Gaza, nothing is happening without being planned ahead of time by the IDF.
samanthadlcruz
so... it's pretty much a holocaust....
hsalonen3000
I wish all anti-Palestine people would have to endure those conditions for a week or two. And have one of their relatives shot by IDF.
iusedtodream
Um, yikes?
fireflyseasontwo
Are you anti-Palestinian?
Or is this your way to admit that the Palestinians are enduring absolute terror under Israel that no one should have to live?
Osiricus
A "conflict" insinuates two or more forces engaged in combat. This is one side with all the firepower and control attempting to end a culture. A genocide. Ethnic cleansing. Atrocity.
SomebodythatIusedtonope
Toqom
Fuck a ceasefire, eradicate Israel
FrankGrenadine
Seems like the war you’re advocating would result in a lot more dead children
ForTheLoveofGodAndAllThatIsHolyMyAnusIsBleeding
I feel like the UK is two weeks away from deploying this except clicking it bars you from accessing the internet.
theshinobi23
Feels like a metaphor, in that no matter how much I click the box, nothing changes.
ProcrastinatingWork
You made sure you sent in your primaries vote too right?
InTangier
Imagine calling "attacking an entire population with an ad hoc militant group that loosely exists in some aeas" a war. It's like the US military levelling a city because you have one of those "patriot" right wing militia groups close by, and they live and work in the city. Surely that isn't an indiscriminate massacre of civillians, it's a "war" between two armies!
I wish they had gone to pick a fight with Iran or Turkey sooner, and face a modernised army with the ability to hit them back.
bambinod
didn't the most recent conflict start with paratroopers coming in from Palestine and slaughtering civilians in Israel?
fireflyseasontwo
Israel destroyed the brand-new Gaza airport in 2001. There are no functional planes in Gaza so no, no paratroopers either:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasser_Arafat_International_Airport
There was however a Hannibal Directive used by Israel on its own people after allowing a siege it knew about for a year or more:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/2/28/what-has-the-report-into-israeli-military-failures-on-october-7-said
SilverStarPine
That was financed by Israel as an excuse to exterminate Palestinians.
There was no security, all young people and Israel did NOT want any hostages to get back.
Sinlok
Don't forget the ethnic cleansing.
fireflyseasontwo
Ethnic cleansing has no legal definition but is considered part of genocide.
The term was used in the Bosnia-Serbia war as a euphemism to avoid using the word genocide because the Genocide Convention has a duty to intervene by all UN bodies.
https://www.genocidewatch.com/single-post/ethnic-cleansing-is-a-euphemism-used-for-genocide-denial-1
Sinlok
Genocide it is then. I was raised in a place where ethnic cleansing was re-education and removal of the idea that one is indoctrinated. Like the whole of them is us now with our ideals,.
andtheseashalltell
Pet peeve: technically, it’s also not genocide. It’s ethnic cleansing.
Genocide is the actual attempted eradication of a group, in whole or in part. That’s not what is happening. Israel isn’t trying to kill off the Palestinians. They’re “just” trying to push them off their land so they can take it. The killing is incidental. If the Palestinians all asked to move to Jordan and Jordan would take them, Israel would stop tomorrow.
This is not a defense of Israel. Fuck Israel.
Frankasti
The line between these 2 is blurry at best. It's almost impossible to prove intent without some sort of manifesto. I think this quote describes it the best:
"Your motivation may be that you want the people out, but if in doing that you intend to destroy the group, then it's also genocide," - James Silk, human rights professor at Yale Law School.
And IMHO, ethnic cleaning is about removing a particular demographic from a heterogeneous space. Total destruction is more akin to genocide.
slinkiisu
Then explain why they are also attacking other Muslim countries while screaming "kill all muslims"?
fireflyseasontwo
Ethnic cleansing has no legal definition but is considered part of genocide (and legally genocide is not just eradication so it is genocide in Lebanon now too - 2nd time).
The term was used in the Bosnia-Serbia war as a euphemism to avoid using the word genocide because the Genocide Convention has a duty to intervene by all UN bodies.
https://www.genocidewatch.com/single-post/ethnic-cleansing-is-a-euphemism-used-for-genocide-denial-1
duktayp
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/7/26/netanyahu-vows-to-go-to-new-york-city-despite-icc-arrest-warrant-mamdani
TyrannusEquus
Yes please
DerpMeister
causality
Just imagine if he got black-hooded and hustled off to the Hague.
sirbartonslady
Don't call the invaders "settlers" ffs. Even calling them colonists is sanewashing what they really are -- invaders trying to steal land.
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ma8e
Don’t give them any excuses to play the antisemite-card.
AnOceanOfStars
But they're different because invaders come armed and kill people to take their lan... oh, wait...
cromstantinople
Call them what they are:
Terrorist, noun:
A terrorist is a person who uses unlawful violence, fear, and intimidation to achieve political, religious, or ideological goals.
SergeyPrkl
As the prodigy song said... Invaders must die.
yamsonyamsonyams
Unlike the settlers of America and Australia who…
sirbartonslady
Ain't saying they weren't either. But "settler" has a positive connotation in imperial countries and is a euphemism . Journalists need to stop using euphemisms for that Israel is doing.
Rhythmaster
Maybe everyone should be properly educated about what settler colonialism actually is, and the brutality and genocide that always accompanies it, and that positive connotation should be removed from peoples minds, since it is basically propaganda. It's only a euphemism because of the abject failure of our education systems to teach the real history of our nations...
ErsatzLanguor
It sure would be nice if folks understood that Settler Colonialism was a bad thing.
sirbartonslady
Fully agreed, but for now, "settler" still has positive connotations in English, where "invader" does not. Words fuckin matter and Journalists should use the correct words, not fuckin sanewashed euphemisms.
Simusar
What Israel is doing to Palestine, is what Russia is trying to do to Ukraine.
FaeVikingPrincess
Russia is kidnapping kids and putting them in indoctrination schools. Israel just kills the kids.
Rhythmaster
Settler-colonialism always works this way though. The words are appropriate. The fact that you have some different, "nicer" connotations in your mind with those words is because when you were learning your own nation's history, it was sanitized and made to look less brutal than it actually was. It was portrayed as nationalist propaganda. Settlers and colonists in North America and other places did the exact same genocidal behaviors, that's what settler colonialism IS!
RatoMolhado
1stDrunkJoe
Fucking skinhead is playing it really fast and loose with the term people!
tinydog
Monstrous culture.
samsorge
Appaling
madjo
Israel was a mistake.
Zunderfeuer
Israel was never a mistake since it it is being build and used exactly as it was planned. There whole ''state of Israel'' was an excuse for ideological fanatics to build a occupying force in the middle east. Which was also the perfect platform for the US and a lot of European states to enact control over a lot of resources.
The fact that ''conflict'' is one of the main propaganda words in my country Germanys media when it (rarely) thematises Israel and Gaza is also no coincident
clonedeeznuts
No less a mistake than conservatism
Jimthebutler
And what is to stop the next group of people who think they have a claim to the land from doing this to israel?
TheJuiceLoosener
Am I the only one reading this as a restatement of the Golden Rule?
AnOceanOfStars
Look at all the people that did it... oh, wait, they're all getting bombed by Israel...
kirmokum
approximately 90-400 nuclear warheads. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_and_nuclear_weapons
PennysWorthOfTea
You comment suggests a gross ignorance of not only the history of Israel but the entire situation in general
Jimthebutler
My comment was on the fact that anyone can claim they have a right to land and kill the people on that land.
slinkiisu
I get the argument, but it's this really the place? You're deflecting away from arguments that Israel needs to stop stealing land by asking "what if someone steals Israel's land?"
How is that helpful to the current issue.
Jimthebutler
"Dont steal people's land , especially if you dont want yours stolen" was what I was trying to express.
slinkiisu
Okay but Israel is stolen land.
jimhotep
The US.
Jimthebutler
Us is not stopping this one, who's to say they will want to stop the next one?
jimhotep
What I mean is what is stopping other countries from just pushing over Isreal, and doing the same thing, and the answer is the US. That isn't going to change soon and it fucking sucks. I don't want my taxes or my citizenship to go towards making Palestinian children into fucking skeletons.
TheLastBootyBender
...because the us is supporting Israel? Haven't you been paying attention?
Jimthebutler
Yes, for now, they are, who's to say the us will provide support in the future though? They arent helping Palestine now so obviously they are a- okay with genocide. So why would they intervene in future genocide if the political enviroment changes?
TheLastBootyBender
Because the people in power in the US are owned by Israel?
WebMaka
The big scary here is that the US is arguably the only country that actually could take over any other spot on the planet if they so chose. If the US truly goes rogue, could the combined military might of the rest of the world actually stop it?
Jimthebutler
China low diffs us, especially now.
psmith00
y'all are about t o find out. buried in the Project 2025 manifesto is the goal of America taking over the whole of the Western Hemisphere. this alone explains the attempts to make Canada a 51st State (which would never happen as the new House Rep that would introduce would vote heavily Democratic) and Greenland. and they've shown that they can kidnap leaders from South America to attempt regime change and make the country subservient.
FortifiedWhine
Yes, absolutely. Unless the US truly goes hayware and uses nukes, there's no way a nation with even the might of the US could win a war on all fronts. It'd be hellishly bloody, but eventually the economic cost and humanitarian cost of its citizens starving (as they soon would if they were at war with the rest of the world) would wear them down. There's no way it'd last long when cut off from the supply it requires from dozens of nations to maintain its war machine.
jimhotep
Goes? We're on the train to crazy town now.