that was fucking hilarious for a joke. get over it, he died for your sins, you can afford a laugh too. He wanted you all to be happier with your life anyway.
I would pay a lot of money for that show to be taken off the air and every single one of the panel past, present and future to be stripped of all acknowledgement and have every door slammed in their face.
My *minister* told me that and a worse one. 😂 Why did all the girls like Jesus? Because he was so well hung / Because he was hung like this *holds arms out wide*
Worth pointing out that the dude apologising (Waleed Aly) is (Sunni) Muslim himself and has been the target of culture wars because of it, but he would not be apologising for this joke on his behalf because he is a dyed in the wool liberal and comedian (also philosopher and lawyer and rich kid). Obviously was told to apologise.
It was meant as a joke and I'm sure 99.9% of viewers took it as such. Bad taste? Sure, but a huge number of joke ARE in bad taste, that's what makes them funny.
Depends on the type of deity you worship I suppose. Not everyone worships a deity that is a magical genie that controls all spacetime and grants wishes in exchange for worship.
Don't get me wrong, agnostic through and through, not trying to tell you to believe in a god.
But your argument is also based on the presumption that any deity that exists must be a magical genie that makes things happen instantaneously, like Abrahamic religions worship. There are lots of deities from thousands different religions that don't operate like that.
A swedish satire show did something similar and China got mad about something, and the show simply responded by making a even more "offensive" episode.
China got mad at plague inc for making a game that is pretty accurate for how diseases work. Prob mad because starting in China gives you an advantage for spreading it which is true.
Similar thing happened in Iceland many moons ago. An Icelandic comedian made a song and a video for it and the Chinese embassy filed a complaint. Only made the song popular for a while.
And after the outrage, his showrunner bought the Advertisement spaces around the entrance of the Turkish embassy in Berlin and but Posters in them saying „#Mimimimimimimimi Humorlose Kackbratze“ translated: „Houmorless cunt“
...huh I always thought there was a joint in his hand but it's instead a missed opportunity
I'm not shitting on someone's personal sincere convictions. More making light of the cultural cachet of Christianity, the stranglehold of organised religion for centuries (which is FAR from the only way people hold faith across cultures) which led to so much injustice and continues to threaten secular rights in so many countries. Keep your rosaries off my ovaries thanks.
This is from an Aussie tv show called "The Project". It's a panel show designed to present right-wing opinions in a manner acceptable to left-leaning people. The host, Waleed Ali, is a fuckwit, and one of their main panelists is a Murdoch flapping head named Steve Price.
Jesus had a plan with judas. Jesus told judas everything about the afterlife in that one moment they met alone. Judas knew killing Jesus would make a martyr. Can't prove me wrong. Morons still believe in this shit.
God made a virgin give birth to himself in a long, convoluted scheme to advertise his word, then let himself die, but that hurt so much, he bitched out, woke up three days later, and raptured his clone directly to heaven after giving himself MORE time to say "toodle loo, folks."
"But my worldview, which was formed for me when I was a child, and which I have never changed because I can't allow any information which contradicts or updates it to enter my brain, dictates that I must be offended. What am I to do?"
Yes. They have an inability to see the difference between a joke that punches up vs a joke that punches down. They want to laugh at minorities, we want to laugh about exploitative systems of control like the church, we are not the same
the religious don't have it. I once had a hight stick at a water park. Said to my friend below and joked "if you are jesus and you know it clap your hands" (then made a nailed to the cross movement with the stick over my sholders)...it was a Christian rock fest at the park that week and a guest tried to get me fired for this. Manager told me "don't do this shit during Jesus Week!"
Ya. He punched up. That makes it ok. If he did an offensive joke about minorities it would not be ok. That is a concept apparently hard to understand for some.
Disagree. It's all about the audience. If a comedy club has someone making jokes about disabled ppl, I personally really don't like it, but maybe the crowd does. But the whole "you're not allowed to" attitude just doesn't convince me. After all, what makes someone qualified to judge if a line has been crossed? Then after that, what "penalty"?
Exactly. I can make up my own mind about a topic. "Please do not give me your suggestion on how to react. You're not someone I know, respect or even ASKED for an fucking opinion"
Arguably, yes... but I was more having a dig at this Aussie show. It's prime-time, weeknight viewing on the traditional networks. It's idiotic fluff masquerading as news/current affairs. It'd be like Graham Norton & Guests presenting commentary.
Interesting. I've never seen it, all I know Waleed Aly from is his philosophy/ethics podcast which isn't vacuous at all (though it is a bit up itself).
I just can't stand formats where a presenter may put on a relatively straight face, and then add concern or emotion as if on cue at the end. Then they go to another talking-head from the panel team injecting some opinion or comment on the article, making light of it or affecting/contriving concern about it. I'm like... NO you fucks, I can make my own emotional judgement about that article; do not suggest how I should react. It's monkey-see, monkey-do
I have no real comment on Aly as a personality/commentator. I know he has his detractors as you say; my issue is more the format and presentation of this show as a whole. To me giving an unsolicited opinion on a news article is insulting unless I want to know, or specifically ask.
He's also really fucking good at Mario Kart. I knew him because he tutored my sister in chemistry and he played in a local Mario Kart 64 league. Kicked my ass.
I don't mind John Oliver per se. I mean, I probably align with his politics more than a lot of equivalent "news entertainment" shows- but the format of his show is very much packaged for Americans. The whooping and hollering of the audience (which I know isn't unqiue to his show) I find irritating after watching for a little while. It ruins the subtlety, which I think I prefer in delivery.
As far as comedy value, his best stuff is always the stuff that's not done in studio or done in a way that neglects the audience. Outside of that, his best material was in the first couple seasons, when they were still new and trying things, and during the pandemic when the lack of a studio audience meant that they could let the jokes breath.
Right, XD that's what ruins the subtlety. Like I get your point and you're right, he's definitely not subtle, but I feel like we get to that point waaaay before the studio audience gets rowdy. He booked the Rockettes and a barbershop quartet of squirrel mascots to dunk on a guy once. https://youtu.be/c5W06xR8EYk?si=6cWLwFTFnyL1Mbr7
And yeah, it's pretty American centric but you gotta hand it to the guy for managing to package a nuanced info dump in a way that Americans will not only listen to but absorb.
I consider John Oliver to be a bit like Steve Irwin; he played to an excitable audience away from his own home audience. This is why Irwin had to be big in the US before most Aussies (and then mainly only certain generations) starting watching/enjoying him.
My doctor was talking to my 5 yr old about blueberries and he said he liked them when they're hard and the doc said - that's called turgid. You like turgid blueberries.
Lmao bro, why are you crowbarring this into the conversation. Go suck his dick elsewhere. I dont even have an opinion on the matter but it's clearly a hot topic. Go be edgy on X.
Because ricky used the same defense for his transphobic humor and I'm wondering if the user only excepts that excuse under certain conditions or if it's blanket acceptance. The person I asked has yet to confirm if they even think Ricky's jokes were wrong so we'll see
Could not agree more. It's like he knows that being cruel and snarky is wrong but it's so big a part of who he is that he has to come up with scenarios where he can be cruel and snarky and people will praise him for it.
The difference is that trans people get killed on the regular for being trans, are constantly harassed, etc. Christians are the majority and are currently one of the most powerful and influential groups (at least in a western context, which both shows seem to be).
If like 100 years from now people are getting fired, harassed, and killed for being "gross Jesus loving freaks" the jokes will stop being funny
Absolutely, I'm completely indifferent to the classic chicken crossing the road joke. I fail to see the relevance here though. Im pointing out the flaw in your excuse, which was the same excuse Ricky Gervais gave for his joke. You're still a bit vague on where you stand on his tranphobic schtick. You wanna maybe confirm if you support those jokes or not?
ShadeMeadowsArt
That's... hilarious.
In the right way, anythin' can be joked 'bout!
rbudrick
If your religion is so easily mocked, you need to examine why.
Cinnaderps
that was fucking hilarious for a joke. get over it, he died for your sins, you can afford a laugh too. He wanted you all to be happier with your life anyway.
NothingPrince
It's also a very old joke. Still fucking funny.
VagrantKoba
I would pay a lot of money for that show to be taken off the air and every single one of the panel past, present and future to be stripped of all acknowledgement and have every door slammed in their face.
Ruhig
It's that much better for having the apology preceding it somehow, hahaha
TheLookAndFeelMUSIC
Builds anticipation
xlr82xs
CairoLen
My *minister* told me that and a worse one. 😂 Why did all the girls like Jesus? Because he was so well hung / Because he was hung like this *holds arms out wide*
QuartzPoker
Maybe I grew up with the wrong kind of Christianity, but I think Jesus would've loved that joke
amp99
traintracker
He’s not sorry😂😂
skathir
Worth pointing out that the dude apologising (Waleed Aly) is (Sunni) Muslim himself and has been the target of culture wars because of it, but he would not be apologising for this joke on his behalf because he is a dyed in the wool liberal and comedian (also philosopher and lawyer and rich kid). Obviously was told to apologise.
FreePalestineAndTheWorldFromIsrael
Thats what I was confused about, he wouldnt take offense to it, but seems like the network mandated an apology towards its more conservative viewers.
TheMellowMoron
oldguyexlurker
I could watch people make fun of deities all day. I don't give a shit about your deities.
PerthAussieMike
It was meant as a joke and I'm sure 99.9% of viewers took it as such. Bad taste? Sure, but a huge number of joke ARE in bad taste, that's what makes them funny.
mksu
It's never in bad taste to ridicule the most powerful religion in the world.
KatInTheCorner
Any deity worth worshiping would find that shit hilarious.
xizar
Any deity worth worshipping wouldn't have let *gestures broadly* get to this point, no matter their sense of humor.
KatInTheCorner
Depends on the type of deity you worship I suppose. Not everyone worships a deity that is a magical genie that controls all spacetime and grants wishes in exchange for worship.
xizar
If a god of a dozen different nothings, scraps that lead to rot, and momentary glimpses stops by, I'll give it some consideration.
xizar
(That does not detract from my assertion... such a god would not let things like that happen.)
KatInTheCorner
Don't get me wrong, agnostic through and through, not trying to tell you to believe in a god.
But your argument is also based on the presumption that any deity that exists must be a magical genie that makes things happen instantaneously, like Abrahamic religions worship. There are lots of deities from thousands different religions that don't operate like that.
swedeonamoose
A swedish satire show did something similar and China got mad about something, and the show simply responded by making a even more "offensive" episode.
Lifk
Guys at charlie hebdo did that too but they got slaughtered so it doesnt always work. It wasnt china though
GeorgieCostanza
Thats hilarious. The above vid is sadly not satire, theyre genuinely sorry for some pretty tame (imo) comedy.
pandemicmodedad
China got mad at plague inc for making a game that is pretty accurate for how diseases work. Prob mad because starting in China gives you an advantage for spreading it which is true.
straha242
HighlyUnstableWithoutCoffee
Similar thing happened in Iceland many moons ago. An Icelandic comedian made a song and a video for it and the Chinese embassy filed a complaint. Only made the song popular for a while.
FreePalestineAndTheWorldFromIsrael
If China wasnt offended about something it wouldnt be China
RacecarIsRacecarBackwards
A German comedian caused an old federal law about insulting foreign leaders to be scrapped after reading a particularly vulgar poem about Erdogan.
Fn0rd
And after the outrage, his showrunner bought the Advertisement spaces around the entrance of the Turkish embassy in Berlin and but Posters in them saying „#Mimimimimimimimi Humorlose Kackbratze“ translated: „Houmorless cunt“
Fn0rd
TheWombatStrikesAgain
Sounds like them. Their foreign policy follows the principle: nothing is trivial. Every single insult or criticism demands a diplomatic reaction.
Chickenmakesmetired
I like their style
Sigge1981
Oo! Which one was it? Grotesco?
doppelfisch
Oh man, I remember one particular Grotesco, let's see... Oh yeah!
https://youtu.be/GRFifgGuHbs?si=W5AlhqFMcS9F_VA4
Solkanarmy
law and order: prisencolinensinainciusol
swedeonamoose
Svenska Nyheter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeU13fWzp1Y
LincLoud
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kEMup
. Doot!
leva2811
Dumb fucks who can't take a joke
MmmmmSoup
The project is like fox news it just spews fake hate
license2kilt
I’m a practicing Catholic and that was fucking funny.
Froggi3
Well they did hit the nail on the head there with thahat joke
Ebo352
How old is the Jesus joke about giving an inn keeper 3 nails and asking to be put up for the night?
ProudAussie
The Project. A shit infotainment show.
plutoisstillaplanetinmyheart
That’s hilarious! Who was the guest??
TheLookAndFeelMUSIC
Don't know but I'm pretty sure I've seen them "sing" Darude - Sandstorm for karaoke, the 7 minute version.
senslesssensei
Reuben Kaye. Very funny, and a great cabaret singer.
TheChanceTrimmer
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tinydog
skathir
skathir
...huh I always thought there was a joint in his hand but it's instead a missed opportunity
I'm not shitting on someone's personal sincere convictions. More making light of the cultural cachet of Christianity, the stranglehold of organised religion for centuries (which is FAR from the only way people hold faith across cultures) which led to so much injustice and continues to threaten secular rights in so many countries. Keep your rosaries off my ovaries thanks.
TouchMyInfection
mikeatike
#nailedit
keyblader1985
He's a carpenter!
SilverHornet
Yeah but they don't read the bible so wouldn't know that
skathir
Yes #funny.
RayneOfSalt
This is from an Aussie tv show called "The Project". It's a panel show designed to present right-wing opinions in a manner acceptable to left-leaning people. The host, Waleed Ali, is a fuckwit, and one of their main panelists is a Murdoch flapping head named Steve Price.
minkuschild
Jesus didn't die for your sins. At most, he took a long weekend off.
TsubakiTragic
leave it at "jesus didn't"
minkuschild
Jesus wept. Bro cried his eyes out.
iananimated
Jesus was painfully inconvenienced for our sins but he's good now, he's OK. Just had to sleep it off.
minkuschild
Jesus had a plan with judas. Jesus told judas everything about the afterlife in that one moment they met alone. Judas knew killing Jesus would make a martyr. Can't prove me wrong. Morons still believe in this shit.
JustAnotherCynicToo
God didn't sacrifice his only son for your sins.
God made a virgin give birth to himself in a long, convoluted scheme to advertise his word, then let himself die, but that hurt so much, he bitched out, woke up three days later, and raptured his clone directly to heaven after giving himself MORE time to say "toodle loo, folks."
mikeatike
And people think Zeus is a crazy sex bastard.
usernametakenisthestoryofmylife
Lighten up, people. It's called comedy.
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LurkMasterP
"But my worldview, which was formed for me when I was a child, and which I have never changed because I can't allow any information which contradicts or updates it to enter my brain, dictates that I must be offended. What am I to do?"
CarpetheCarp
It’s a joke, not a dick. Don’t take it so hard.
bannanaforone
Are the people getting big mad the same people claiming you can’t even make jokes anymore?
spookyactionatadistance
Yes. They have an inability to see the difference between a joke that punches up vs a joke that punches down. They want to laugh at minorities, we want to laugh about exploitative systems of control like the church, we are not the same
MrPengy
No, it's comedy when it makes fun of *other people.* When it's making fun of me, it's offensive!
-How people actually think
TheAssholeRacist
I wish I could light some of them up...
SavageDrums
Religious people cannot do that. Joy is a sin.
SarcasticComment
the religious don't have it. I once had a hight stick at a water park. Said to my friend below and joked "if you are jesus and you know it clap your hands" (then made a nailed to the cross movement with the stick over my sholders)...it was a Christian rock fest at the park that week and a guest tried to get me fired for this. Manager told me "don't do this shit during Jesus Week!"
Jewdakris
This is way beyond comedy, it's something better
DOcelot1
Biggest joke of all was the Goat Herders Guide to the Galaxy
spookyactionatadistance
Ya. He punched up. That makes it ok. If he did an offensive joke about minorities it would not be ok. That is a concept apparently hard to understand for some.
GuyPilot
Disagree. It's all about the audience. If a comedy club has someone making jokes about disabled ppl, I personally really don't like it, but maybe the crowd does. But the whole "you're not allowed to" attitude just doesn't convince me. After all, what makes someone qualified to judge if a line has been crossed? Then after that, what "penalty"?
VraedenHughes
Jesus walks into an inn, hands the inn keeper three nails and says, "Say, can you put me up for the night?"
DWolf
Why would've Jesus been good in porn? (Holds out arms) Because he was hung like this.
ChosenChaos
What do you call this? (Holds out arms and puts one foot on the other)
A TERRIBLE start to the Easter weekend
CanadianLadyMoose
Oh man, that joke took me 3 years to get the first time I heard it because I’d never heard the term “hung” as a euphemism before 🫠
DWolf
How loudly did you laugh when you finally got it?
cyanideremark
Urrgh... "The Project". News as entertainment is just 95% vacuous shit anyway.
MyWifeCallsMeChungus
Not sure id call it newse
MyWifeCallsMeChungus
News
euphoricopportunity
Oy. I like Some More News and I am not ashamed.
AlmightyElephant
Warmbo 4 prezident
geotard
Waleed sold out years ago and Lachlan murdoch previously 25%. Now owned by Paramount
MmmmmSoup
Remember when the original cast started on Rove live before it went all weird
TsubakiTragic
indeed it is... but the joke was well delivered and on point.
ImHereToExplainTheJoke
The daily show called. They're outside with hammers.
ChewyWombat
The Project have long been the masters of fake outrage. Pitiful.
cyanideremark
Exactly. I can make up my own mind about a topic. "Please do not give me your suggestion on how to react. You're not someone I know, respect or even ASKED for an fucking opinion"
PerthAussieMike
You mean like Fox 'News' ?
cyanideremark
Arguably, yes... but I was more having a dig at this Aussie show. It's prime-time, weeknight viewing on the traditional networks. It's idiotic fluff masquerading as news/current affairs. It'd be like Graham Norton & Guests presenting commentary.
skathir
Interesting. I've never seen it, all I know Waleed Aly from is his philosophy/ethics podcast which isn't vacuous at all (though it is a bit up itself).
cyanideremark
I just can't stand formats where a presenter may put on a relatively straight face, and then add concern or emotion as if on cue at the end. Then they go to another talking-head from the panel team injecting some opinion or comment on the article, making light of it or affecting/contriving concern about it. I'm like... NO you fucks, I can make my own emotional judgement about that article; do not suggest how I should react. It's monkey-see, monkey-do
skathir
Ah right.... this is why I don't watch current affairs and panel type shows, that sounds truly insufferable.
skathir
Also I know he's done comedy and he's a Muslim himself and has had the right wing press go after him.
cyanideremark
I have no real comment on Aly as a personality/commentator. I know he has his detractors as you say; my issue is more the format and presentation of this show as a whole. To me giving an unsolicited opinion on a news article is insulting unless I want to know, or specifically ask.
tangent
He's also really fucking good at Mario Kart. I knew him because he tutored my sister in chemistry and he played in a local Mario Kart 64 league. Kicked my ass.
iguessihaveto
And then there's John Oliver with a research team and a brick he wants to throw.
cyanideremark
I don't mind John Oliver per se. I mean, I probably align with his politics more than a lot of equivalent "news entertainment" shows- but the format of his show is very much packaged for Americans. The whooping and hollering of the audience (which I know isn't unqiue to his show) I find irritating after watching for a little while. It ruins the subtlety, which I think I prefer in delivery.
AlmightyElephant
As far as comedy value, his best stuff is always the stuff that's not done in studio or done in a way that neglects the audience.
Outside of that, his best material was in the first couple seasons, when they were still new and trying things, and during the pandemic when the lack of a studio audience meant that they could let the jokes breath.
cyanideremark
And that's probably another reason why I don't consider him a news source. Just another infrequent entertainment face online.
iguessihaveto
Right, XD that's what ruins the subtlety. Like I get your point and you're right, he's definitely not subtle, but I feel like we get to that point waaaay before the studio audience gets rowdy. He booked the Rockettes and a barbershop quartet of squirrel mascots to dunk on a guy once. https://youtu.be/c5W06xR8EYk?si=6cWLwFTFnyL1Mbr7
iguessihaveto
And yeah, it's pretty American centric but you gotta hand it to the guy for managing to package a nuanced info dump in a way that Americans will not only listen to but absorb.
cyanideremark
I consider John Oliver to be a bit like Steve Irwin; he played to an excitable audience away from his own home audience. This is why Irwin had to be big in the US before most Aussies (and then mainly only certain generations) starting watching/enjoying him.
trippingthelightfantastic
Freeasabird2015
This should have its own thread. Awesome.
jared743
ItHappenedInThe20thCentury
deserves a standing ovation
MrCheesebiscuit
Love it! Source, please?
ReelPoop
Christian here, my brothers and sisters...it’s a joke, not a dick(or equivalent), don’t take it so hard
Jezzz
CitizenPrime
Well, a dick should be taken hard.
Outlavv
Having a sense of humour is never said to be okay in the bible, and thus is a sin
ItHappenedInThe20thCentury
That was an actual serious theological debate around the Middle-Ages, if memory serves: did Jesus laugh/smile? People on either side got mad angry.
InDogsWeThrust
A turgid clit?
xizar
*laughs in hyena*
JackieTreehornProductions
My doctor was talking to my 5 yr old about blueberries and he said he liked them when they're hard and the doc said - that's called turgid. You like turgid blueberries.
Rathan5
The Turgid Blueberries sounds like an indie band name
InDogsWeThrust
The Turgid Bluebs
ahorseelbowdeepinme
Agnostic here, do you think Ricky Gervais's transphobic jokes were funny?
downvoteifyouhatekittens
Dude it's Imgur you can't call people out on their hypocrisy on here.
ahorseelbowdeepinme
Ain't it the truth. However
GeorgieCostanza
Lmao bro, why are you crowbarring this into the conversation. Go suck his dick elsewhere. I dont even have an opinion on the matter but it's clearly a hot topic. Go be edgy on X.
ahorseelbowdeepinme
Because ricky used the same defense for his transphobic humor and I'm wondering if the user only excepts that excuse under certain conditions or if it's blanket acceptance. The person I asked has yet to confirm if they even think Ricky's jokes were wrong so we'll see
HeyHeyPeoplePlinkettHere
Bruh. I don't think ricky gervais is funny period.
ahorseelbowdeepinme
Could not agree more. It's like he knows that being cruel and snarky is wrong but it's so big a part of who he is that he has to come up with scenarios where he can be cruel and snarky and people will praise him for it.
Chickenmakesmetired
Pretty sure making fun of a persecuted minority isnt the same as making fun of religion.
ahorseelbowdeepinme
No one said it was.
skathir
Are you stupid?
ahorseelbowdeepinme
No, is there a point you're going for here or...?
NightfallEverdark
It is called False Equivalency. By talking about some other unrelated topic, you are implying the two things are somehow both 1) related and 2) equal.
ahorseelbowdeepinme
It's the same defense and I'm specifically asking about that defense so how is it unrelated exactly?
cambam3000
The difference is that trans people get killed on the regular for being trans, are constantly harassed, etc. Christians are the majority and are currently one of the most powerful and influential groups (at least in a western context, which both shows seem to be).
If like 100 years from now people are getting fired, harassed, and killed for being "gross Jesus loving freaks" the jokes will stop being funny
ReelPoop
Christian here(again), no but i wonder if most of the transexuals in the crowd or the ones watching on Netflix found it funny
ahorseelbowdeepinme
Well it's just a joke right? No need to take it like a penis which, I guess in your mind is something that people shouldn't want apparently.
ThingsThatDontJustifyGenocide
Wjat the fuck?
ahorseelbowdeepinme
My point exactly
ReelPoop
Christian here(again again), in your opinion...is it possible to be indifferent to a joke?
ahorseelbowdeepinme
Absolutely, I'm completely indifferent to the classic chicken crossing the road joke. I fail to see the relevance here though. Im pointing out the flaw in your excuse, which was the same excuse Ricky Gervais gave for his joke. You're still a bit vague on where you stand on his tranphobic schtick. You wanna maybe confirm if you support those jokes or not?