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On top of that, their vehicles have maps that are as old as my manager at work
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russian-fighter-jets-gps-dashboard-uk-b2076376.html?amp
GroovyCrowley
The GPS receivers:
akambe
I first read that as "...or the monkey for that maintenance." Not sure I'm far off, tho.
gotchasucka
Sachingare
The independent - publishing news that's over 2 months old .. people found those gps like 3 days into the war
rossonerinho
I think I have a Thomas Brothers map book of LA and Orange Counties around here somewhere.
GpaSags
Guess that's what happens when those top officers use the money to build themselves yachts.
swil22
Why are representatives of British govt stop giving the Russians hints about what they are doing wrong? Let them make their own mistakes.
GCRust
"Maps that are as old as my manager at work" Well, there was my daily reminder of the callous march of linear time, damn your eyes.
MechaNinja
"illegal war" is such a hilarious load of shit. Like, what war would you consider legal?
Stuey1221
Anyone else got a mental image of a TomTom stuck to the cockpit canopy?
SegyeJibae
example image from Syrian war: https://eurasiantimes.com/su-34-fighter-jet-shockingly-found-with-gps-taped-to-dashboard/
wrenchhead
“Turn right now!” *crashes* “Recalculating!”
Stuey1221
Make a U-Turn when possible
sadurdaynight
He has a military that cost billions to upgrade. But, everyone pocketed 99% of the money. So, it's the same old military with new paint.
RussianBlueJay
Communism was always about false images - big military, big buildings, great sport achievements. All this comes at a cost of real poverty
Asteroidrules
Russia has been a house of cards for a long time now, it just wasn't revealed.
blackandwhyte
All of this relentless ineptitude by the Z’s, is making me think the casualties at the battle of Khasham are more than likely true…
darkstarmc
This actual was a strength of the Russian doctrine back when. Keep lower cost fighters meant to be used in your radar network with support planes nearby for defense. Obviously a fucking awful idea is you decide to go fight somewhere else.
Nobeliefistrue
Shortage of velcro in Russia?
80thousand85
I feel attacked by the "as old as my manager at work" comment
SmokyDoggg
spitfires2000
https://www.dronesforukraine.fund/ Here you can buy key chains made from downed SU-34's to support Ukrainian army.
NUCKINGFUTS8
All you have to do is donate $1,000
Esdog
That's cool, but also fucked up, but still cool.
SegyeJibae
not as fucked up as this: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-23124347
BigTex1
It was nice of him to lend a hand for so many years.
Esdog
Hahahahahaa wooooooooooooow that is super fucked up
PictureArchiver
The only reason they’re holding on is there’s a lot of them and they have a lot of hardware to throw at it.
hajimedj
Reading all this makes me realise that probably any country with a decent military force could've invaded and conquered Russia for probably
hajimedj
The past 15 years. It's amazing how poorly equipped they are
SegyeJibae
try 30 years, since the fall of the Union they don't have the money to maintain and operate their war machines. some sold, some left to rust
SegyeJibae
they even sold some to Pepsi for access to the market: https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/11/27/pepsi-navy-soviet-ussr/
amp99
No. Their nuclear doctrine makes it clear they would use nuclear weapons in that instance.
hajimedj
If their nukes got the same level of treatment as the rest of the scrap metal they call armaments, there's nothing to be worried about
amp99
Have you not seen the sheer amount of carnage they've inflicted on Ukrainian cities with conventional weapons? Are you fucking serious?
TobiOfTheAkatsuki
They have ~6000 total nukes. If even 1% are in working order, that's still enough to wipe out BILLIONS of lives.
getadogupya
End stage capitalism, where the defence budget gets reallocated to pay for a few oligarch's super yachts.
HamburgersExclamationPointTardigradeIsAlreadyTaken
Nothing to do with capitalism...
Txernobog
So is GLONASS over?
PicassoCT
Russhing into it.. Bombing run on their own convoys as ordered over unencrypted comes..
arthurvanhoudt
Rudimentary GPS is nit easy to work with cause at speeds >> 250k/h they stop working!! Some Russian Jets seem to go >> 250k/h so how= using?
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
I thought the same when I read about it. I guess they learned that fact once airborne.
arthurvanhoudt
“Normal” pilots are not that stupid!! Well … OK most of them! But maybe they use too young guys that are under-trained. Dunno ..
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
It takes a lot of training to fly one of those, but anyway the first rookie to try the cheap thing would've reported that it no worky.
prodmerc
Could explain them bombing random shit instead of actual targets lmao
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
“I meant to hit the pier but damn GPS made me bomb a hospital”. Nah, it just doesn't get a fix and AFAIK it's low level, visual bombing.
Dannyalcatraz
I just had this mental image of an old TomTom or Garmin saying “Recalculating!” every few seconds in a plane doing 1000mph.
spookyactionatadistance
Russia has its own positioning system called GLONASS.
prodmerc
And by their own accounts it sucks ass
Dannyalcatraz
If Russian forces had displayed this level of unpreparedness and incompetence 200 years ago, it would have been carved up by its enemies.
prodmerc
They did, but they had more people in a time when that actually mattered. Nowadays it's just cannon fodder.
jackal12345
Said it before but this feels like a really really good time for Georgia to take back the land russia stole awhile back
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laiskamato
No.
HK47Statement
Best comment ive seen on Imgur yet.
HK47Statement
Mongolia too!!! Then insight the natives to refuse to obey russian law and make it a global spectacle.
OleOleBiscuitBarrel
Gotta keep South Ossetia first before having those kind of thoughts
MapleSyrupMafia
Japan could also retake their islands. Imagine if everyone decided to retake what Russia stole from them all at once... They can't manage>
MapleSyrupMafia
their attack on Ukraine, they'd shit brick having multiple fronts.
ArcaneEyes
And then, nukes. Tempting from a justice perspective but in reality it would be catastrophic to launch a war of conquest on Russia.
TheWombatStrikesAgain
South Ossetia just announced a "referendum" on whether to formally join the Russian Federation. I wonder what the outcome will be. /s
BeerAndChips
They're free to mark the "da" option in any way they choose: "×," checkmark, colour it in.... you just can't pick "nyet"
Fedotia
Considering that elections in Russia have ballots inside the box before the polling place open, outcome is an easy bet.
HedonistBeard
Does Georgia have as modern and well equipped a military as Ukraine does? Without that they wouldn't do as well.
NOINITIATIVE
when the cat's away...
effinooguy
I'm sure Georgia has tractors.
DameDePiques
Best answer ever!
AmArschdieRaeuber
They don't, but neither does russia
NotSomoneElse68
We have enough weapons and ammo here in the US to give them
Greyeyes1973
Alabama?
Grillparzer
There is a reason why the Florida panhandle is called LA (Lower Alabama). This isn’t it though.
TheycallmetheDoddOne
No. Majorie Taylor Green’s region.
TheBlackKaiser
No one wants Alabama.
CE0485
Roll Tide!
KommSusserTod
Not even Albamans. They just accept their fate.
itsallaboutthecones
Damn, as an Alabamian, you beat me to it. Seriously though the land is great. The people are mostly not great.
charlie2979
They have a fairly pro-Russian government & even with Russian failings in Ukraine they still don't stand a chance.
EntariAdun
I'm not knowledgeable on Georgian politics so I'll take that at face value, but wouldn't a war on more fronts hurt Russia even more?
StudioDerpster
Yes, but without a good shot at it, you're just asking them to give their families to the genocide machine.
StudioDerpster
My understanding is that they don't have the framework for organized resistance. Ukraine is organized af
EntariAdun
Thank you for raising this point! If true, that's very fair.
charlie2979
Russians would die sure. More Georgians would die. The 2008 war was a massacre.
EntariAdun
If so, that's a good point. Killing Russians isn't the objective anyway, of course, so maybe this one front is enough.
tomatoboy
And that was when they were led by a pro-western leader. Their current leader is…well…dubious.
mikenco
It's only the threat of nukes that keeping the Russians from getting a severe ass kicking at this point.
LasciviousHedgehog
Who doesnt want to see an Su34 hit its top speed only to realise the gps disables itself at 1200mph.
mikenco
pachyderm
I’m beginning to think Putin is bluffing with those nukes
mmmerf1
If only 5% of them are operational he could kill half the planet.
GodEmperorOfImgur
Fuck it. if just 1% are functional he can kill half the planet.
mmmerf1
Well, 1% leaves the possibility of post-apocalyptic civilizations like Mad Max. Gotta admit, mixed feelings there. #WhoRulesBartertown
GodEmperorOfImgur
Perhaps, but the sad truth is... it won't be you, or me.
AZRAELSBLADE
Who says they’ve maintained those, either?
SirButcher
A Russian rulet for the whole humanity - spicy.
DKB13
Roulette
tomatoboy
Doesn’t matter. They launch, we launch. Even if theirs don’t work, ours do, poisoning the planet. We’re all farting in the same car.
tomatoboy
At best it means many millions would survive day one only to die of cold, famine, etc afterwards from the after effects of our own bombs.
tomatoboy
At the end of the day, nobody wins in global thermonuclear war, even if one side loses less.
NotSomoneElse68
It only takes one. So if even 1% work - the world would be fucked
byohzzrd
When you have thousands, it really only takes one or two to really fuck things up for everybody.
AmazinglyCoolNameHere
The apocalypse is also not necessarily going to be the immediate scenario. There are many other, more contained options.
mikenco
I hope you're right.
undungubungu
Lets assume even worst case scenario that only 2-5% of them are in working condition. Thats still 120-300 nukes.
TheMonkeysAngst
estimated. we really dont know how mamy nukes they have. remember the start 2 treaty, sure they followed the rules and were honest lol
mikenco
Thank you for the numbers. That is a ridiculous amount of weapons to be in the hands of a megalomanic.
WarlockSniper
I wouldn't trust Putin with a box of tea.
mikenco
*shit
tomatoboy
Plus even if theirs don’t work ours do, and we’d just end up poisoning the planet responding to their duds, since we wouldn’t wait to find…
tomatoboy
…out their weapons were going to fizzle.
jackmiton
They definitely haven't, but they have so many that odds are eventually they'll find one that works...
MisterLemons
Oh they haven't, too expensive, but they had 6000 and it only takes the successful launch of one to screw us all.
mikenco
That's all Putin needs to keep other forces from stepping in. Just one.
lljkstonefish
Launch? Shit, all they gotta do is build it into a pinball machine and post it wherever they want it.
mikenco
I don't think anyone is willing to call that bluff, if it is a bluff... He only needs a few to work to cause chaos.
BurningVeryImportantThings
destroy the planet for generations*
TerraDactyl89
Meh, the people in charge globally have already been doing that for decades. (I know it's not the same scale but I had to say it)
TheDungineer
To be fair, that would be chaos lol
BurningVeryImportantThings
very true