ATLA dump

Mar 2, 2024 5:44 PM

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he would do this though

I love Katara so much

I have more, but it's "spoilers" for later seasons so will put in a different post.

Please do not trash any adaptations, especially the new Netflix one, in here! Positive vibes only.

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2 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 1

#8 As a 50 y.o. white male: my wife and I are currently watching the live action series. I think we're on episode 6. I love the diversity of the Asian-like cultures we're seeing. I've only just realized there aren't any white people... But, I also don't remember seeing any black people.

2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

#8 ...yknow, I only just realized that there aren't ANY white characters in ATLA. Like, not even side characters or background characters that I know of? And I've never once heard any chuds losing their mind over the 'reverse racism' or w/e other bullshit they'd usually screech about a show's cast having no white dudes in it.

2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 2

avatar isnt even a show from my childhood and its still my favorite childhood animated show

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I love all the memes depicting how savage kyoshi was, Love the meme were aang asks his passed selves what to do about the fire lord and they all say "You have to do what must be done and what is right regardless of what it is" And then there was kyoshi who was like "Fucking murder his bitch ass Ang, grow some balls and bathe in his blood as is tradition!"

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

probably an unpopular opinion but #8 lets not sully the merit of a naturally diverse cast by statements combating racism with racism...

2 years ago | Likes 33 Dislikes 3

Where is the other dump @op?

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

#3 honestly I'm just curious about Shrek watching everything from the trunk

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

#8 Pretty fucked up that "not a single white character in sight" is a selling point. It definitely explains some toxic parts of the fanbase.

2 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 10

My dude. The fire nation people are white. Not european white, but what the fuck does it matter. All the nations are based on asian cultures.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

They aren't white as in Caucasian. I first saw the whole thing in my early 30s and have done reruns of it two or three more. I love the show, I'm white Norwegian and never ever thought of it as white people missing. It would hardly be a point since most of it is based on Asian cultures. I find it very strange that someone like to make a point of it being a good thing. Just say "no whitewashing instead". What they say instead is just racism.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

2 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

QUEEN!

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

#3 Yeah I'm gonna need a source.

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Avatar the last airbender, kyoshi shows up every so often and she is a bad bitch.

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

#6 He FOR SURE won't be making that mistake again , after " The Southern Raiders " episode

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Raplace white in #8 with black and think again if it's really a smart thing to say.

2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

#6 Was this before or after he told that Gecko piece of shit to shut up ?

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

#8 Adventure Time hits 5/6 of these

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

5/5 that matter.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Does anyone else dislike Katara in the Netflix version? In the cartoon, she was a badass, stubborn, firecracker who didn’t take shit from anyone while still being caring. In the Netflix version she just feels so bland. There’s hardly ever any emotion on her face. Not hating on the actress, but I just didn’t think her representation fit her character very well. Besides that, the others are finer and Zuko’s character is played really well.

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

The others are fine**

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Aangs performance is terrible IMO, same with Sokka and Katara. Zuko is fine. I much more prefer the cartoon. If a live action can't even reach the knees of the source material it's best to leave it be

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I have no idea what other people think of the live action but uhhh.. I did not like it. It feels like an alien watched the show, misunderstood what people like about it, and then gave it to a good set designer/ costume artist.

2 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 5

I have to give it credit - they nailed a lot of the visuals, but I felt like the director said "Fuckit, good enough" on a lot of the acting.

2 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Yes, I watched the first episode and it was a bit like watching a theater. The script is written for a series, but executed as a performance. Felt so unnatural I couldn't bear to watch anymore. I like a lot of the visuals but too much of it is so extremely CGI I'd rather see them skip it. And either way, the cartoon was already so good I don't see the need for a live action

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I'm still laughing at a guy with a weedy flame challenge a woman who thrashed lots of benders already while being stopped to practice water bending by her tribe, a known healer and mean fighter at the same time, saved the literal saviour of that world multiple times, and surrounded by water, and thought he would be a challenge or an effort at least. No wonder he's always bested by her younger sister.

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

*his

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

2 years ago | Likes 133 Dislikes 0

Just do some flexibility training, you have to maintain the body for it to stay healthy

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 16

As a 35 year old man who spent 2 hours this morning chasing his 2 year olds around a gymnastics studio, this.

2 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

I love the new netflix adaptation. I really hope they do the other seasons

2 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 7

IMO I was having to force myself to watch it, only made it to ep 3. It looked good and was excited but they changed way to much. Ep 1, the water tribe has like 100+ people, in the cartoon they had less then 15-20 and it was the size of a camp not a village. later it showcased how devastated the water tribe was from the constant attacks, you could see they were a town/village but after so many loses they dwindled to a campsite. Also katara was way to weak at the start and they failed to show her-

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Power, she was water bending a fish in a bubble and keeping it steady, in the live action she couldn't even get a bubble. In the cartoon she was raw iron ore and felt like she really been practicing on her own for years, in the show she wasn't even a discovered vein of iron. The cartoon showcased how strong she COULD be when she got angry but we never got that. They would of been better off doing a version were we saw team avatar grown up and making avatar city instead.

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Agreed! It wasn't perfect, or anywhere near as good as the One Piece adaptation, but it's still way better than expected and definitely far superior to the movie.

2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

I'm iffy on it. Not saying it was bad or wasn't good. Just they mixed around a few things that IMO had a weaker impact by not being on their own, or skipped/changed certain things. And because it felt relatively rushed (although I think minute for minute they're still pretty close) certain character developments were affected by it.

2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

I thought it was awful. It felt like the took the soul out of the show. And the acting was just atrocious.

2 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 2

Unpopular opinion but it always bothered me Aang didn't kill Ozai. He almost lost and cost the entire war. I understand that life is meaningful but he was risking the lives of everyone outside the fire nation. it was his duty as the avatar to protect those around him despite his personal beliefs. Meanwhile Sokka was blowing up airships and getting a body count. Messages are a little all over the place. Enjoy my rant haha.

2 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 6

For me it was less of aang not killing ozai. It was more of the ass pull that was energy bending. It was set up, sure, but not nearly well enough for the payoff to not feel like an ass pull.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Ozai was more than just a firelord, he was worshipped. Had to break his mystique too.

2 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

I think it's less about "I can't kill" than "I can't go in with the intent and plan to kill" because Aang has definitely iced a few people over the course of the series, or contributed to some deaths. If two highly trained navy seals can drown at sea in an operation where everyone saw them go over and could react immediately, some fire nation goons in armor getting launched over the side of a moving ship that can't stop is a death sentence.

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Lmao, "It bothered me Aang didn't kill Ozai" You and every avatar before! 🤣

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Omg I know right

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

That would make a martyr for the militant fire nation. Taking away his bending and allowing him to live to face justice humbles the perceived superiority of the Fire Nation. Gives an example that helps to neuter any legends and lost cause myths.
I am not a better man and would have ended him however.

2 years ago | Likes 30 Dislikes 0

And it serves as a cautionary tale to anyone who things they can be clever or outwit the Avatar. "You think you've accounted for all possibilities? The Avatar can just pull a new ability out of their hat, and undo everything you've ever worked towards." Killing Ozai would just send the message of "you only need to be able to kill the Avatar first"

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

i like this

1 year ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yeah the lion turtles giving him the deus ex machina power was kind of a copout saving Aang from learning an important grownup lesson. But at the end of the day it is a show directed at kids, I suppose

2 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 3

I'd argue that Aang did learn a grownup lesson: "How to achieve a goal and stay true to yourself and your values in a difficult situation"

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

But he didn't really achieve his goal by any merit of his effort. Giant supernatural creatures came out of nowhere and just handed it to him.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

There were at least 2 or 3 giant supernatural creatures that helped Aang along on his journey, the lion turtle wasn't unique. In terms of dues ex machinas, this hardly qualifies.
Energybending makes sense as an Avatar-only thing and they established animals/spirits can teach people bending. They needed someone to teach it to Aang, why not have some ancient being who first granted people bending do it?

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

But Aang isn't just the Avatar, he's the Last Airbender too. The culture of the Air Nomads survives by his actions. If the Fire Nation forces him to abandon his people's principals of non-violence: then the genocide of the Air Nomads would be complete.

Defeating the Fire Nation without killing is the only victory for Aang, satisfying both his duties as Avatar and the as Last Airbender. Proving that his pacifism doesn't make him weaker.

Sokka ain't an Air Nomad so this isn't about him.

2 years ago | Likes 27 Dislikes 0

The bigger problem is that taking away Ozai's bending is a lazy asspull that sidesteps the entire issue without forcing Aang to make a choice and also undercuts the message. He didn't actually prove that pacifism didn't make him weaker, he proved that it did make him weaker but being the Avatar let him compensate for his weakness. I love ATLA but that part of the ending is just dogshit.

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 8

You're right as far as it being an asspull is concerned. For as important as it was to the ending; the possibility of taking away someone's bending should have been foreshadowed before hand.

But it holds thematically. Aang's pacifism is the only reason he sought the wisdom of the Lion Turtles in the first place. Aang proved himself not by making a hard choice, but seeking new solutions, and accepting personal risk to change the conditions of the test. You know, like a hero should.

2 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

But it doesn't hold thematically. Everything in the story builds up to Aang having to make the difficult choice of leaving Ozai alive (running the risk of him somehow becoming a problem again) and killing him (and therefore abandoning his principles). That choice is the emotional core of the climax and resolving it with an asspull that sidesteps the whole issue is bad and lazy writing.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 4

As I said, I still love ATLA, it's just super disappointing that the series fumbled the ending.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 4

#2 Did Toph draw that Sokka ? She got real good .

2 years ago | Likes 88 Dislikes 1

It's a self portrait.

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

It looks exactly like him.... according to Toph

2 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Toph jokes are always the best I've seen!

2 years ago | Likes 27 Dislikes 0

Eyyy !

2 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

2 years ago | Likes 27 Dislikes 0

Well, we know it's too good to be a self portrait, so maybe?

2 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

Fat Iroh is still the biggest inconsistency in that drawing

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I was in my 40s when my son said he wanted to watch this. I wasn’t interested but I agreed. The series was over but Nick was showing a couple of episodes every night as a marathon. We watched the first two and I immediately went out and bought the whole series that night. We binged over the next few days.

2 years ago | Likes 528 Dislikes 0

I was a young adult when I watched the movie. Loved it cause I'm oblivious to bad acting and didn't know the pronunciations were wrong. The special effects were great! Then I saw the show. Can't watch the movie anymore.

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Same!

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I was an adult in my 20s when i first watched it and loved it. The best children's shows are the ones that you can watch both as a kid and adult!

2 years ago | Likes 49 Dislikes 0

I watched the abridged version first. And didn't realize how much of Sokkas jokes were canon

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Avatar is the best teacher for children imo. It covers so many ambiguous concepts. There are no goodies or badies. Just people.

2 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

Sokka fervently defending the kiyoshi warriors getup he's wearing. It's not girls clothing it's a warriors clothing !!

2 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

The first Saturday morning I had off and could chill with my newborn son, (19yrs ago) this show started episode 1, it will forever hold a special place in my heart as OUR show.

2 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

If your child was born around the airing of episode 1, does that make him the Avatar?

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Key memory unlocked for your kid. Good stuff thats top parenting.

2 years ago | Likes 93 Dislikes 0

Yeah I found it as a young adult and fell in love instantly. Better than most mature shows imo

2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Same. Well, not so young. Randomly gave it a chance in my 30s and wondered where it had been all my life.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I think my dad would enjoy the series if we had watched it when i was a kid, he loved watching my cartoons with me, he still quotes Courage the Cowardly Dog till this day and he is turning 70 this year haha!
(They got me at age 40 so i had old parents yes)

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

#8 Avatar doesn't have any white characters? *thinks back* Huh. Never noticed.

2 years ago | Likes 40 Dislikes 1

Closest is fire nation, mostly due to the island being partly based on Icelandic volcanoes with the culture being mostly south east asian with a splash of Japanese. So of course that means the Tibetian monk and the 2 Inuit characters are caucasian and the fire nation are Indian.

2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 2

The clothing and architecture is almost exclusively inspired by Asia/India, with splashes of Mayan and Inuit. As for the characters, race doesn't always come across clearly in cartoons, but there's plenty of pale-skinned characters. OP is likely interpreting those characters to be Asian.

2 years ago | Likes 29 Dislikes 0

Yeah, honestly, there are a few characters I'd consider white (namely the inventors who took over the air temple and then some Earthbenders), but it wouldn't surprise me if they were just fair-skinned/pale.

2 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Also "I loved this because I didn't see anyone from X race" is fucking racist as shit

2 years ago | Likes 48 Dislikes 5

Yeah, I get they were going for “show good because it represents peoples other than white” but it came across “show good because no white people”

2 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 2

It also has no black or latino people.

2 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

I don't think that's what they were going for when they wrote that.

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I didn't make the memes here, but I'm sure they were just saying that it's refreshing to see so much different racial/fantasy cultural representation in one series. Since the four nations were modeled on Arctic and central Asian real-life cultures, it makes sense to me that the characters would look like people from those ethnic groups.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I'm white and live in the Arctic. Norwegians have done that for a very long time.
One issue with "Arctic people" is that there's not a very clear definition of what the Arctic is. Simple way is everything above 66°N. There's also average temperature in July below 10°C.
Sami people are very white, but not blond hair blue eyes type. I know a couple of Siberians (Komi people), who are very white, with blue hair and blue eyes. Have the more round face features that's more common in the high Arctic

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

That may have been the intention, but replace any other race with "white character" and you can clearly see how racist it was. "Literally not a single Jew in sight" is clearly racist, and someone who can't see the connection there is probably a racist themself.

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Ah yes, the five elements: Fire, Water, Air, Boomerang, and Earth.

2 years ago | Likes 324 Dislikes 0

Without Sokkas boomerang, Sparky Boom man would have killed them

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The boomerang is representative, Sokka mastered non-bending combat styles from all 4 nations. He is us normies trying to excel in a world of magic in our own way....

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Boomerang? No, you mean...

2 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 0

To be fair, they were pretty lost without Sokka. Kinda like a band without a road crew.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Heart! And together, they form...

2 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 0

Given his luck with the ladies, I’d say he’s the back bender

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

It's the element of surprise

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

2 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Spacesword!

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

To be fair to the Boomerang, there was a fight scene where all of them piled on Azula, and Azula, the child genius/prodigy to which I would argue have the strongest fire bending abilities because blue flames and and a military and volleyball genius and only ever lost once for plot reasons and going insane, dodged the boomerang instead of blocking it because she saw it as a threat.

2 years ago | Likes 67 Dislikes 1

She lost more than once in the series: The Chase had her lose at the end. She got away, but she was still defeated. Boiling Rock, Ty Lee kicked her rear. Being arrested afterwards doesn't negate Azula's loss. The volley ball episode, more of a social loss, but still a loss. One of her defining characteristics is being able to accept a defeat and move on or find a way to come back with a win at a later time

2 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

I think you're right, I might have not remembered it well. I'll rewatch it and get back to you once I'm done.

2 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Didn't he also basically become the non-bender Aang? Learning vanilla martial techniques from every nation they visited (water tribe hunting and boomerangs and spears, earth nation Kyushu martial arts and fans, all the advanced air-related tech he learned about helping the mechanist at the air temple, and fire nation forging and swordsmanship.

2 years ago | Likes 75 Dislikes 0

Definitely. Not only that but he's an emotional rock and adept at keep things in track sokka was a freaking fantastic character.

2 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

2 years ago | Likes 50 Dislikes 0

*Kyoshi, not Kyushu, my phone hates me

2 years ago | Likes 31 Dislikes 0

Don't underestimate Sokka's boomerang it saved him and/or other people atleast thrice. In the first episode he freaking gave Zuko a minor concussion with it.

2 years ago | Likes 27 Dislikes 0

2 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Didn't it also stop Sparky Boom Man?

2 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 0

Yes that is one of those times.

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Killed him yes

2 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 0

Wouldn't 9 months pregnant mean you missed your chance to give birth to the Avatar? You'd need to conceive at the moment of the old Avatar's death IMO.

2 years ago | Likes 102 Dislikes 11

Avatar kuruk Go out like a champ nutting his own reincarnation into his slam piece right as he keels over of a sex induced heart attack

2 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

"Honey! The avatar just died! Light some candles and take off your clothes!

2 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 1

It's the very next bender born, of the correct sequential element, following the death of the Avatar.

2 years ago | Likes 53 Dislikes 1

I'm pretty sure the next Avatar is born with a day of the previous one dying.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Is this bait? This seems like abortion ban bait…

2 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 36

2 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

No, not everything is political.

2 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 0

Pro incel move, accusing someone else of steering the conversation towards the thing you're bringing up for the first time.

2 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 2

No, after Roku's death Aang was instantly birthed into the world. There was no slowly forming of cells.

2 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

"Hey honey, I was just-" BANG *wahhh* "WHAT THE HELL"

2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

I came to ask this too -- I'd assume it's at conception, unless that spirit or whatever just teleports within a growing babby-shell when it's former shell dies, so when it pops out it's got the arrow or whatever on its forehead

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 4

The arrow markings were tattoos granted to air bending masters, nothing to do with avatar-ness

2 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 1

The arrow glows in the avatar state though, so it's an understandable connection to make

2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

They glow because they follow the qi flow through the body.

2 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

No, at first breath, not first nut.

2 years ago | Likes 84 Dislikes 0

Depends on if they're in Alabama or not.

2 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 1

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

> Me nutting to the news the avatar has died

2 years ago | Likes 150 Dislikes 0

Already to late when you get the news

2 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Not if you're doing the murdering.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

> Me nutting right before stabbing the avatar to death

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

The Avatar is heavily based on the Dalai Lama, (including the test they do to identify objects belonging to the previous body) the belief is that the Dalai Lama can choose the body that he is born into. The 13th died in mid December and the 14th was born in early July implying that it is not the moment of conception (i don't know if he was a little premature) but happens during the pregnancy.

2 years ago | Likes 28 Dislikes 0

Buddhists believe that the soul remains behind for 49 days before crossing into the next life, it's a time for the spirit to reflect on what it has learned and move closer to nibbana, Tibetans call this 'bardo'. After that period the soul can move into a new body (if it wants/needs to) and that can occur any time after fertilisation but before birth.

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Fun fact, Monk Gyatso has the same name as the 14th Dalai Lama's birth name.

2 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

Same with Tenzin

2 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0