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This guy gets it
Mar 24, 2018 2:38 PM
ChuckMcNasty35
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chefchris357
That’s pretty close to what we’re doing in WA. It’s working out just fine.
Promethianfire
But think of the prison industry and asset forfeiture you selfish bastard.
ag166
"we should stop kidnapping drug users and only steal from them"
OrangeRanger
You're a new type of retard aren't you?
iamdanman
Let’s do it in Virginia too. We need better roads in Norfolk and Portsmouth
seechickens
As long as they put the funding to good use, that's awesome. Unfortunately a lot of public education funding is wasted or poorly managed.
shamahlamah
All i know is the boys from oklahoma roll their joints all wrong. Theyre too damn skinny, and way too long
ProfessorDumbass
...and don't the girls love it
paulthebipolarbear
I wonder why people think it's best that governments is the main einty to run schools
hellohihey69
Similiar to Colorado. And it works well, our schools are getting better everyday... And everytime I re-up
Ifyourenotfirstyourelast
You’re doing your civic duty
i3igpete
When has anything for the children ever actually been for the children?
ProfessorDumbass
Michael Jackson ...um .. ok nvrmind
mainzy123360
This is sad as fuck, here I am paying a mínt to scumbags and we would be building a brighter future if the alcohol/tobacco lobby fucked off
LinkWieldsTheTriforceOfCourage
That's if they follow the Colorado plan, if they follow the Washington plan all the money gets pocketed by assholes.
IronMarla
Decriminalizing drugs and using the taxes and prison/legal savings to establish MUCH BETTER education/rehab is kinda the only real answer.
Katabare
Let's be real here. If marijuana got legalized and people start making money from it, education is the last places surplus profit will go
tibbersbear
Like.... Colorado?
DefenderOfDog
on top of that you pay less for weed dealers to be in jail
No1v1
Lol ‘legalize marijuana, send proceeds to build education’ tell me I’m not the only one who sees the irony here...
buttsareawesome
Man just think if religious institutes had to pay taxes. Maybe we could have some better public schools
siihb
Better than CA, we give 100% of the tax revenue to the police. Who in theory should have less work now.
benjamindco24
Republicans don't like to spend more money on education because it will cause fewer republican voters.
digivirus
Kansas needs to do something similar to fix the massive budget fuckup that Brownback caused. But we’re always last to do the smart thing. -1
digivirus
Just like with allowing casinos in the state. “Fuck getting state revenue, we have good Christian morals”... FML
itsybitsyspider
Except it won't help much. They said the lottery would help with the school funding, and we're still in deep shit.
CuttleFishOfCthulu
Yeah, instead they claim they have a "pot epidemic" and along with Nebraska, have tried suing Colorado.
CometLaHal
more like an idiocy epidemic
rabbiebabbie
Lol wow
richg1960
If you believe that it'll be a plus for the school depatment, you are naive.
PookyButt
I'm pro legalization. But come on guys, we trust politicians as long as they say things we like?
Poltergeist94
So is the fact that marijuana profits are going toward education WHY the government is fighting it's legalization?
ProfessorDumbass
They need stupid people to be prisoners or soldiers
floatationman
No, it's due to decades of sunk cost of a drug war + increasingly heavy lobbying from the private prison industry. Jailing potheads = $$$
thebluestthingsonearth
As an Oklahoman, this is why I cant watch the news anymore. Every day another story about our failing school systems, and the solution is
thebluestthingsonearth
right in front of our faces. Also, fuck Mary Fallon.
sheblindedmewithscience
I second that. I stopped watching local news, too. I love my home, but gatdamn our legislators are worthless.
itsybitsyspider
Except it's not. Do you not remember what happened when they said the same thing about the lottery? Schools STILL ended up fucked.
itsybitsyspider
They pretty much went "Yeah, we'll redistribute it! Here's a few pennies."
thebluestthingsonearth
Thats because most of the money didn't even go to the schools.
fidormula
I heard they don't smoke Marijuana in Muskogee.
soaksloginwood
Yeah. But white lightning's still the biggest thrill of all.
macmac138489
cardboardunderwear
It's a place where even squares can have a ball
erinaceus
right after that song came out, muskogee had a major pot bust.
TheStealthHippopotamus
Bravo
thirdearthsurf10
Underrated comment...
IJustGiggledImsorry
They don’t need no LSD
BooRadleyLives
In Muskogee, Oklahoma, USA?
PotKnight
Who ever told you that lied to you
cardboardunderwear
Young blood
SanSamis
You callin' Merle a liar? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5K5l89mpV8
PotKnight
Yes, yes I am
PaintedLady5519
Do it, Colorado schools won big when we legalized marijuana.
givemefakeinternetpointsplease
BS! I live in Colorado... the schools have not received the promised windfall.
Obijesus
I smoke for the children
thisiskissel
After legalizing, we need to get companies to stop testing for it, since it’s legal and all.
SmolTenk
Alcohol is legal too....
MistressLyda
In most jobs, yeah. Pilots, surgeons and so on? Maybe not.
geiokami
It could impair your job so they have every right to test for it.
thisiskissel
Not talking same day use. You can lose your job if it’s in your system 3months after use. But you can be a functioning alcoholic and be ok.
Ifyourenotfirstyourelast
They’ll test for it until there’s a way to test when you were last high. Unlike alcohol, you can fail a drug test for pot if it’s been days.
Ifyourenotfirstyourelast
In the event of an accident they’d have a sobriety test performed by a doctor, and you’d still fail if you got high a few days ago
DropDeadFread
This would be great for Oklahoma because they had to shorten their school week to four days due to lack of funding.
ThePerfectTemperatureForHeresy
WTF
jsnforce
Really? Where the fuck have my kids been going every Friday?
ThePeckingOrder
A majority of schools have, but not all. The Teacher Walk-Out is planned, but the vast majority of the legislature doesn't care for (1)
ThePeckingOrder
(2) education. They took $10 million from the school budget the was financed from the lottery into other funds, rather than education.
LurkurNoLongur
Only in some parts. Others are still full 5 day weeks
drunknninja
Not all the schools. But a few of them apparently.
BombCyclone
http://m.newsok.com/article/5575291/time-to-end-four-day-school-weeks-in-oklahoma
confanity
It's almost as if destroying your revenue stream leads to problems for everyone even if the plutocrats like it.
zathmi
At least the military is funded. :D
zathmi
... but seriously, what good is armor on a rotting corpse.
DemSumBigAssRidges
"Lack of funding" is an understatement...
itsybitsyspider
It will NOT go into education. Look what happened when they said that about the lottery.
Munchman347
Oh, it goes in, but for every $ in, they remove one from tax sources. Leaves them plenty in the 'general' fund...
thebigcheese
Really? Wtf, literally destroying their kids future because they're crap at their jobs. And the usual idiots will vote them in again!
magoslich
OK school funding is a nightmare and it is 100% on the state gov't for not doing anything about it.
Daphault1
I've went to school in McAlester as a kid for a few years. Easiest schools I ever attended. Sad really.
theHoff12
Some parts of Utah are about to do the same.
pcpforbreakfast
Where is this at? All schools in my county are still 5 days
MyDogJake
What. The. Fuck.
Thesaya
...How is that even a thing that they are allowed to do?
AgolfHiller
You're kidding right?
Vaanhalen
Lots of states are like that. Liberal Oregon gave 2 and 3 day "holidays" off every few weeks. That was over a decade ago in the good economy
ColossalActivist
Mostly just the schools in the city. Most of them are still five days a week.
CometLaHal
i didnt hear about that. so fucked
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While that is not a good thing, I wouldn't doubt the fact that many children are okay with less school
CometLaHal
the only light of this situation is that anyone who witnesses can see how idiotic those politicians are
DimentioPZC
4 days? Holy shit that sounds amazing. 2 days is not enough to enjoy the weekend IMO.
DimentioPZC
Wow, gotta love all the downvotes here just because I love the weekends. lmfao
bagelstylechess
Except you're a liar and that never happened.
WrongUn
Are you serious?? That's awful!
Lward53
As an ex kid. Uhm hell yes
rabbiebabbie
They just do not give a fuck about the children
booboobabybox
Unless they are inside a uterus
laddeao
Is there a Republican state that does? I'm from Kansas and they hate school funding here. Been unconstitutionally underfunding for years.
NotWrenP
Idaho cares actually. But i have to say it more so the districts that care rather then the state. At least the area I'm from does
DropDeadFread
Its true. Look it up. They cut taxes so low they don't have enough money for schools. And they need 3/4 majority to increase taxes.
vixiecat
Not all schools though. Still 5 days a week in my town ....for now. Not looking good though. Statewide teacher walk out soon.
MrJBK99
And we just cut taxes federally.... that'll work, right?
valen00
But it's trickling down right, your all rich right?
valen00
Let's move our company to the state where all the staff are dumbasses said no employer ever
xJAYSINx
HighSorcerer
-Something- is trickling down, that's for certain.
newsguycraigevans
Oklahoma, a red state run by "fiscal conservatives", have mismanaged the budget so badly they had to cut the school week to 4 days.
bagelstylechess
Except that didn't happen. It's a 5 day week.
zathmi
WV and KS are having similar issues.
Tyaldan
Idk that sounds p fiscally conservative to me. why use your own money when you can use the governments?
disagreeable
Wait...what? Seriously? Oh my... and not that sexy on George Takei does either. This is one of real concern.
SayWhatYouMeanMeanWhatYouSay
Shit and I thought Texas fucked up a lot.
DemSumBigAssRidges
Pay wise, I believe Texas is one of the better states to be a teacher in, but I also haven't done any real research.
SayWhatYouMeanMeanWhatYouSay
It’s not awful but not good either. Plus you’ve got the super churchy influence impeding scientific and medical education at all levels.
theHoff12
Parts of Utah are about to do the same. Gotta love these "fiscal conservative states
kerchew
http://www.standard.net/Education/2017/06/16/Park-Valley-schools-move-to-four-day-school-week-next-fall-Box-Elder-School-Board
kerchew
It's for kids leaving to work on farms and has nothing to do with budget.
Askingforafriend37
I was just up in the very rural parts of Utah all day for theatre competition, I’m pretty sure this wasn’t a funding issue.
Dongskanker
While I see your point, Detroit and Flint were run into the ground by Democrats. Corruption has no political affiliation, it's everywhere.
DemSumBigAssRidges
A lot of it was unions, over-priced labor + poor quality destroying the auto industry, but, as a liberal, I do basically agree w/ you
counciler05
Sorry, my first reply sounded snide and rude, man. Can we still be friends? :(
counciler05
Or, maybe, the holy doctrine of shareholder supremacy driving companies to seek higher profits or risk takeover? + NAFTA = Overseas Jobs
DemSumBigAssRidges
That's just my theory though. I've done very little research on it. My family is just from Michigan.
DemSumBigAssRidges
I think that's where it's at now. I think the unions started the push to move jobs beyond the borders of the US due to stupid wage demands
Ifyourenotfirstyourelast
Oregon recently disclosed the distributions of the first year of pot taxes. Our schools got 40%, equaling $34 million.
thor0486
nope. That just makes too much sense.
ASongOfPissAndFarts
A bag of weed, a bag of weed. Everything is better with a bag of weed!
snarflex
Oregon is also famous for taking funds for education and diverting equivalent funds away from education. Their lottery is notorious.
snarflex
It would be surprising indeed if they weren't playing the same shell game with weed money.
beasttubbs
Hopefully Nevada turns out like that. Our schools need it
professionalWolfologist
I live in oregon. It's disgusting how much pot there is. There's a legal pot store every two blocks! How am I supposed to visit them all?!
Ifyourenotfirstyourelast
I have at least a dozen on my way to work in Eugene
battleofhastings1066
This comment is perfectly crafted. Well done!
elShiz
PonyManero
You guys legalized in oregon too?? I really need to come back again in the u.s.
Soufriere
All 4 Pacific Coast states (CA, OR, WA, AK) have legalized for recreational use.
PonyManero
So it’s safe to say that it’s a...pacific coast party?
BurntRamen
I'm a manager at weed shop in Oregon. I think a lot of growers, producers and shops will be going out of business this year. 1/2
BurntRamen
Many of them are owned/run by people with lots of money and no idea WTF they are doing or how to market themselves. Prices are nosediving.
tiredmombie
Oregon what whaa!!? No seriously....what?
GuardsmanMiku
serious question, how is the smell?
JustAnEightStoryTallCrustaceanFromThePaleolithicEra
I recently moved to Colorado and go to a lot of close and far highschools. They’re nice as fuckkkk
AlcoholicsAnonymousBYO
Heh, can't believe it took me this long ... pot taxes going to "high" schools.
rabbiebabbie
Finally someone is funding education! I honestly don't care where the money comes from we just need to fund education
theTrafficConeDisturbance
Our teachers are gonna strike due to lack of money in Oklahoma... probably need pot
DILD0Z3R
Probably from a lack of Higher learning
upvotehypnotoad
Because no one is going to go strike stoned
SjyiN
"I was gonna go to school but then I got high , ooo-ooh"
rabbiebabbie
That's awesome! How can politicians see this and think "let's make it illegal again so only the drug dealers profit"
Dontrespectmahauthoritah
Because by making it legal will stop the cash coming to their pockets.
REAGANSMASH84
Because prison pay directly to politicians and dispensers cannot put cash in the bank
minipancho94
because the companies that make drug testing kits or run private prisons give them free cruises n shit for doing so.
DreadPierateRoberts
Or in some cases both
rabbiebabbie
You're all making me very depressed with this reality dose
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swinglinered
Don't forget the profit to be made via banks, real estate, etc. laundering the illegal drug money.
Ansatsunin
I HAD A LITTLE DOGGY AND HIS NAME WAS BINGO.
minipancho94
was bingo a good dog?
thenewimgurappforandroidsucks
And big pharma
BearToof
On the opposite spectrum, big pharma can easily monopolize on marijuana and accessory products so I imagine once current patents turn that..
BearToof
Pharma coops might change their tune about marijuana.
PurplePrinny
don't they test for multiple drugs in those kits? Sure marijuana might not need be tested for, but meth and coke and such should still be.
CC2332
They also have just marijuana tests. Was a huge thing in high school as nobody was doing the "harder" drugs. Just another form of control.
BhawbTheMagnificent
Imo get rid of it. My employer shouldn't have the right to know what I do in my free time as long as it doesn't impact my work.
KrippledKoala
In Canada that's exactly how it is.
SpreadyUnsettling
I'm always amazed that this isn't common sense in America. I could do krokodil in my free time and it wouldn't be my employer's business.
laddeao
Because as the Attorney General of the United States has said many times, "Good people don't smoke marijuana."
JayEnfield
WINNERS DON'T DO DRUGS
rabbiebabbie
Lol right I forgot. I guess all those cancer patients using it to alleviate their pain are monsters. wait till 1 of them benefits from it
RideTheStimutacs
I guarantee you that person will fail to see the hypocrisy. It's always "do as I say, not as I do."
Ansatsunin
Of course they will. "I can change my mind" is what they'll say. Even though really, it should be "I ignore other humans' experiences 1/?
Ansatsunin
and hard scientific fact backed by many independant studies if it doesn't align with my flavour of cognitive dissonance". 2/2
Abracanawbra
I agree with you but it is a shit logic. That argument could be used for crack or meth.
rabbiebabbie
Not really because those do a real tangible harm to people that outweighs any possible medicinal benefits. Marijuana has value in other area
Abracanawbra
If the government sold crack it could use the money from it. I never said it didn't have medical value, or made allusions to harm.
rabbiebabbie
But that's my argument...and you said that logic....nevermind lol this is retarded
TanithRosenbaum
Actually that would be a good thing. Look at Portugal. They still go after drug lords, but users and users/dealers get treatment. Works well
TanithRosenbaum
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/dec/05/portugals-radical-drugs-policy-is-working-why-hasnt-the-world-copied-it
Ansatsunin
Thank the lord for other people on this site that know about this.
lulurafa
...so?
SpruceCaboose
I disagree, as crack/meth addicts appear to run an incredibly higher chance of actually burdening society as "zombies". 1/2
Ansatsunin
Thing is that keeping the drug entirely illegal does nothing to curb that whatsoever. Decriminalising it, however, does. See Portugal.
SpruceCaboose
They're still illegal though, no? We're talking about wholesale legalization of a particular substance.
SpruceCaboose
I do not care for weed personally, but I've known an enormous number of capable coworkers who do. Some cocaine as well, but no crack or meth
Abracanawbra
I am pro weed legalization. I just hate that arguement.
Ansatsunin
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/dec/05/portugals-radical-drugs-policy-is-working-why-hasnt-the-world-copied-it
brrrackobama
It could, and should. Prohibition does nothing to stop drug use and has tons of negative effects. Drug laws make things worse, not better.
Abracanawbra
Legalize meth?
Ansatsunin
There is a difference between decriminalising and legalising, and / or regulating stuff. Go read up on Portugal and how their decisions 1/?
brrrackobama
Yes, actually. It's difficult to discuss in 140 chars, but drug laws drastically increase harm to society and do not stop drug use at all.
Ansatsunin
Here's a primer: https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/dec/05/portugals-radical-drugs-policy-is-working-why-hasnt-the-world-copied-it
theeAndikrist
I was a heroin addict. The law didn't mean shit to me. If it was legalized, i wouldn't touch it today. Why's tobacco legal? I don't touch it
Ansatsunin
one impacted their numbers concerning junkies, crime, arrests of street dealers, etc. All those metrics dropped tremendously. 3/3
Ansatsunin
surrounding decriminalisation of drugs in personal use quantities, and to look at addiction as a health problem rather than a criminal 2/?
BestUsernameICouldThinkOf
Then, as with the lottery, they just cut the general education fund the same amount and reallocate that money.
GingerLaird
Lotteries are superfluous anyways.
pills92
He's figured out! Give him the two shot suicide treatment
ibrokemyselflmao
bigkingdingaling
Same with casinos in MD.
muckinpattis
"general fund" aka dissapear forever
magicrhombus
Disturbingly accurate. And then if lottery funds decline, they don't redirect money from the general fund back in.
aqueueforyou
This is why we'll never be free while under the control of fucking sociopaths.
CaffeineManic
Do you have somebody specific in mind?
tarkus10
Exactly what they did in Florida. Crooks steal in the cold light of day.
RokosBasilisk
As an Oklahoman, this is true.
itsybitsyspider
This. As soon as I saw "Oh it'll go to the schools!" I was thinking "Yeah, look what happened last time."
PMMeYOURBoobsPlz
Bingo
JayEnfield
And this is why earmarking "the money from X will specificly go to Y" is always bullshit.
RideTheStimutacs
I'd be a lot happier paying taxes if they had percentage sliders for where your money goes. Like Humble Bundle, but for infrastructure.
JayEnfield
As great as that would feel on your end, it would be god-awful on a national scale. ;)
RideTheStimutacs
Probably, unless everyone paid basic minimums for education and infrastructure. I figure the balance of red/blue would even out the rest.
RideTheStimutacs
Mostly I just want to see where my money is going, and have them be able to demonstrate that.
smpat04
And then the regulations will produce less than expected so the schools will be less funded than they would have otherwise been.
Maahes0
I don't know if Oklahoma has any money going to education....
Isthe4thtimethecharm
If they do put any money into the schools it just goes to building a football stadium or wasted on a "cute" addition.
atechnicnate
They sure pay for wrestling programs...
TanithRosenbaum
Survival of the strongest I suppose?
krioc
They have like $500 for it...
RokosBasilisk
My city is doing very well, but it’s not that way in many places here.
RokosBasilisk
We just passed an 85 million dollar bond issue here. Our community is great about supporting schools.
sheblindedmewithscience
Are you in OKC? I just moved away last week, but it's home!
RokosBasilisk
No, I’m northeast of Tulsa. A town called Pryor.
sheblindedmewithscience
I know where that is! Neat. Always fun to see other Okies on here. (Even though a lot of times it's for depressing reasons. Ha.)
nintendo64girl
Why do you think our teachers are literally planning walk outs
Maahes0
Which is why I said that.
AirplaneNerd
Wasn't it OK that cut schools to 4 days a week last year because they couldn't afford to keep them running for the full week??
apparentlymynormalusernameisntgoodenoughsoheresthis
A few schools were forced to do that.
Soufriere
Some did, but that was mostly in Kansas after Brownback cut taxes so hard the Court smacked him down and his own party raised the taxes back
anvilon
Also known as "money laundering".
TheseArentTheDroidsImLookingFor
Hush you!!
crimbadabim
That's still more money going places that desperately need it
bigkingdingaling
People buying pot probably can't afford to spend money on it
GuciGucci
That's not really whose buying pot tho. Most ppl of all wealths like to chill.
Allanonshea1
I mean that's just wrong
cardboardunderwear
I think when Georgia did the lottery a while back they used it to create a new scholarship fund which was cool. Not sure what happened since
Soufriere
Arkansas does that with lottery precisely b/c we didn't want what happened in Texas to recur here. Also court ruled K12 funding top priority
GuciGucci
I think it's still around, I think you have to suck the board of regents dick for 2 yrs with a 4.0 and still give occasional handies
GuciGucci
to qualify now tho. That's what I herd....
CaffeineManic
Yep, that's exactly how California does it. At least 3 tax increases in last 15 yrs for "education", but actually this bait & switch scheme.
CaffeineManic
Followed closely by tax increases to exclusively fund road improvements, which then get that exact amount poured back into the general fund.
malikcarr
Ripping taxpayers off is the truly bipartisan issue everyone can support.
grammarfairy
I think marijuana has more right to be legal than lotteries if we're being honest.
root1657
Being bad at lottery doesn't make people bad drivers.
dagnabitdonya
I didn't know I had this opinion until now, as I never thought about it.
3PiecesOfBread
I'm ok with both, but yes.
snurx
Buy a lottery ticket, almost definitely lose. Buy weed, win every time.
theeAndikrist
The lottery messes with my life. I stand behind gambling degenerates at the register who are scratching lotto tix, holding up the line.
BearToof
It’s what I’ve heard called, the “poor man’s tax”. Not to mention winning it about ruins the life of the recipient from my understanding.
BearToof
Not that it’s the lotto’s fault on that end, but still, I always find that to be fascinating.
TanithRosenbaum
One could actually argue that's the education systems' fault for not teaching wealth management... :)
BearToof
Yeah, although, it’d be tough to prepare anyone (or even worthwhile) for going from 50k/yr to instant 500m. But yeah, basic edu would help
AlwaysandEventuallyHannah
But poor people already have taxes designed specifically to target them. I think they're called "taxes"
Eogos
Mostly only ruins your life if people know you won. Which sucks if you're in one of those states where you have to go public about it....
Eogos
And then the rest of the time it ruins your life if you can't manage money worth a damn.
DrSchmolls
nah, that's user error
SkyeKey
State lottery employee here. We give every opportunity for education on good money management post-winning but ultimately it’s up to the../1
SkyeKey
../2 claimant to be fiscally responsible for the rest of their lives
3PiecesOfBread
Some people just aren't meant to have money.
grammarfairy
If they knew how to handle their money, they wouldn't be playing the fucking lottery.
amoeba15
So is my plan to open a yarn store, pay my daughter's college, and build a Hobbit house fiscally sound enough? I'm boring.
TooDumbToCare
I'm pretty sure that's an exaggeration. Plenty of people can't handle having a lot more than they are used to, but hardly everybody.
SparklyCholo
How does the lottery ruin someones life?
BearToof
My understanding is it’s too much wealth too quick. And “family” members come out of the woodwork like leeches. It brings a lot of stress
SarcasticSebastian
I don't remember the exact percentage, but a large portion of lotto winners end up going bankrupt. Poor planning, mostly
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That's not the lotto's fault.
rayhatesu
not necessarily directly, but often people that win lose an understanding on the value of the money they're getting and blow it all fast. >
SparklyCholo
Thanks ! That’s cool to know, my friend won the lottery and I just see him drinking all day since he doesn’t need to work anymore/1
rayhatesu
not to mention some people will see the face/name of the winner and try to swindle them or target them for theft. hence why some attempt to>
disinfectantrum
Never heard it be called “the poor mans tax”. It’s always been “the idiot tax” to me
TanithRosenbaum
"The tax for people who don't know math" is what I knew.
MylundTheMad
Well if you are rich, you have better ways to foolishly gamble your money away, but even the smart poor can get desperate.
itsnotthatbad21
Isn’t government wonderful?
SmolTenk
Why do you guys allow that to happen?
WolfgangxZ
People are stupid and our government is corrupt
SmolTenk
Ah, that would do it.
RageMonk
And people have no recourse that won't endanger a comfortable life, as voting for 1 of 2 corrupt organizations does nothing.
outan
Lol I don't know where are you from but there's a BIG chance that happens in your country as well. French here, same old scam too.
SmolTenk
German here, Merkels principles are as solid as a sheet of paper. She generally does what the majority wants her to do.
AlwaysTheContrarian
Relocate to give cooperations tax breaks.
SomeDetroitGuy
Unpopular opinion - people should pay taxes not corporations. Eliminate corporate taxes, hike taxes on the rich and capital gains.
CC2332
Have to reverse that recent supreme Court decision that decided corp. were considered "people" for political purposes then. Can't be both
SomeDetroitGuy
If you're talking about Citizens United, you didn't read it because it explicitly calls out that it is not based on corporate personhood.
SomeDetroitGuy
Source: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/09pdf/08-205.pdf
XnFM
I'd just form a Corp to own my assets and pay myself only whar I need. Maintain 0 liquid assets to only pay taxes on what I spend.
XnFM
There are many problems with the way corps are treated legally that can't be solved unless their all handled together.
XnFM
Whoops, they're, not their.
upvoteforwhat
Why shouldn't corporations pay taxes? I'm down with the corporate tax rate being lower but if you operate in the US you should pay taxes.
SomeDetroitGuy
Because corporations aren't people - they're just a group of people. You should tax that group of people as individuals to their capacity.
rando84
The argument is that all corporate income is taxed when it's paid as salaries & dividends, so it's double taxed. LLC's, small businesses 1/2
rando84
& S-corps get pass through taxation; taxes are only paid at the owner/shareholder level. A lower C-corp tax rate makes sense, but not 0. /2