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Laid off tech workers from Meta, Google and Twitter are being wooed by the federal government
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https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/13/laid-off-tech-workers-are-being-wooed-by-the-federal-government.html
Sphinct182
TimmyDuncan
-The federal government
happynessisawarmpotato
I always wondered who the federal government sent out to Woo all of those Meta, Google and Twitter employees that were recently laid off.
Wapusk
Wait, are laid off tech workers from Meta, Google and Twitter are being wooed by the federal government?
necessity
My partner works in the Fed Gov't and I'm in tech. The pay disparity is enormous, but so is the volume of work we're both on the hook for.
kerdude
Feds still test for weed so good luck with that
Thajurriesexcuesed
Is this the post about laid off tech workers from Meta, Google and Twitter are being wooed by the federal government? I can't tell.
Hangonthere
What's "wooed"? Strange word.
Thajurriesexcuesed
- To vy for the affection of.
BenderBendingRrrrrrodriguez
Yo, unrelated, but did you know Laid off tech workers from Meta, Google and Twitter are being wooed by the federal government?
squelcheswetly
Woooooooooed.
redpandabanana
Hey are we talking about Brock turner the rapist now?
flannelsec
VA said I was unqualified for a role. Managed to land the same role at a lot tech firm paying multiples more than the VA. Good luck VA.
NotNotDeadpool
I know there's a push for a special pay rate for 2210's because GS pay tables can't keep up with private sector.
FormerlySable
Heck yes, come work for Uncle Sam. I do, & I would LOVE to have better-working IT.
PoliticalWanderer
Good. The government desperately needs some tech competency.
slinkydust
It's the leadership that's failing, not the developers
Deathtospam
Public tech jobs can pay half of what private jobs pay. I doubt folks previously making S-tier private sector salaries are gonna go public.
ToSisPoS
I'd like to see a public alternative to social media. We're willingly giving up our privacy anyway, some "deepstate" oversight would be nice
LonelyHumanBoy
It, (a public, federal, social website) is going to be a propaganda machine on principle, might as well not develop one at all.
ToSisPoS
Also yes, but like how roads lead to cars and the inherent ills, I’d rather roads be regulated. Though no cars would also be swell.
LonelyHumanBoy
You do not need a public system for regulations to be made. You merely need a federal agency to overlook and enforce private sector laws.1/2
LonelyHumanBoy
The underlying issue is that either way requires the government to actually do its job and do it correctly without malicious intent. 2/2
ToSisPoS
Well I will stick to my private toll road analogy for the time being.
edasm
Hire when you can, not when you have to.
unitedstateoftexas
Build job security.
AxelBeingCivil
Imagine if the Biden government actually suddenly gets an effective bureaucracy going. Just... Imagine.
candar
Watch em still try and drug test for weed
kddk8s
It's to work the damn Oracle Cerner rollout to get the VA EHR system the same as the DHA. Cerner is THE WORST EHR on the market./
kddk8s
And it's a multi-vendor contractor hell shit show. (I interviewed for part of it in 2021).
BigStacksThrowItOnThemBigFatTatties
now why would these companies lay off their top, i said TOP skilled workers and keep the rabbles who can't code for shit?
SmokyDoggg
Corporations can’t be trusted to make social media. Time for the people to make our own social media network. With hookers. And blackjack.
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Flraven
Well much of the government used Twitter to reach the masses up until this point sooo.. not a bad idea.
OrangeFlavours
Yes, a bad idea. They use any social media. They also use email or websites or, anything.
Smayds
I agree! We should form a corporation to do this.
kasdaye
Mastadon is free and open source, self-hosted, and federated. Just find an instance you like and you're golden.
hellodee
Thought you were going to say hookers and blow ?
SmokyDoggg
It’s a quote from Futurama
holyshitcandybar
I work for the VA and the pay is actually decent. There's also upward mobility unlike a lot of corporate jobs. I also have good benefits/
holyshitcandybar
and the most stable job imaginable. I'd rather work to help veterans than to make some rich asshole richer. If you're competent, please/
holyshitcandybar
consider it. The VA desperately needs talent!
displacedgothamist
Wouldn't it be a Christmas miracle if these folks could change how our veterans get service/help? Modernize it?
OptimusPom
I've worked GS before. The mission starts to look like shit when I'm living in poverty at 50 hours a week.
omfgitsmichael
I did the opposite. Government pay is absolute dog shit compared to the pay at a tech company. Anyone who takes a job for the gov won’t stay
codepink2303
Smart move.
OddlyPacific
Laid off tech workers from Meta, Google and Twitter are being wooed by the federal government
softsuit
Xmas wooed
kuriosly
What, are they offering $60k a year now?
ihavethelowground
Laid off tech workers from Meta, Google and Twitter are being wooed by the federal government
DaggettOFlannigan
Laid off tech workers from Meta, Google and Twitter are being wooed by the federal government
zenoshogun
Laid off tech workers from Meta, Google and Twitter are being wooed by the federal government
RummageSaleBubbler
Last I checked, the Fed Gov't pays 1/4th as much. Assuming they're in Silicon Valley now, that's not enough to pay rent.
Zainadin
Article says they are raising the rates they pay tech workers. You'd be surprised how much that could be. I was paid 25$hour in 2000 Intern
Zainadin
I worked on Americas Army game before 9/11 and left shortly after that because I couldn't deal with the moral implications of it anymore.
kuriosly
They need to be paying > $50/hour to be considered though.
Zainadin
I was an intern at the time and I am positive it most likely at that level now or soon.
kuriosly
When I left college 10 years ago they were offering 40K a year. Which I found insane considering industry offers started at 90k
buttcreambandit
Hire vets you fucks. Tons of us went into tech after serving
nanyatenyaa
And I'm sure they're happy to.... Also 'tech' is an incredibly vague term which can mean that some of those people don't have the skills.
nanyatenyaa
I also suspect many vets might not want to work for the VA and might want to work elsewhere.
nanyatenyaa
I've worked in the tech industry for over a decade and have worked with plenty of vets who are happy where they are.
nanyatenyaa
And are glad to not have to deal with government bureaucracy constantly in their civilian life.
nanyatenyaa
Pretty sure the government isn't sitting there going "Well fuck this person is qualified for the job, but used to work for us so fuck him."
Zincee
Anything below a GS5 is normally vet preferred at a lot of agencies, and USAJobs has a whole listing for vet pref jobs.
m4uboy
damn shame the gov't drug tests
shmerdaburrdaburr
shmerdaburrdaburr
I might actually be interested if they didn’t. I’m not giving up my brain calmer-downer just to get a job.
freckledkink
On hiring. I know a plethora of government workers who smoke pot and/or do other stuff. There are ways around scheduled tests. It depends on
freckledkink
The clearance level. IT people get away with a lot of pot smoking and previous pot convictions.
Snipsuper
how!? government is cheap, plus they usually need clearance
ArmedandOverclocked
they wont need a clearance unless they have access to private or sensitive info. simply developing software, in-house, wont require that.
Asadsadsadclown
The gov is cheap in very specific ways. If they put up the funding for the positions they will likely pay at or above typical position pay.
Asadsadsadclown
And those positions are for life unless an asshole politician tries to make a name for themselves by destroying the budget for an agency.
Asadsadsadclown
And depending on the job you either need clearance before applying or part of the hiring process is getting you that clearance.
Asadsadsadclown
The largest hurdle for the laid off workers is that a large number of them are on work visas from other countries. While the vast majority
Asadsadsadclown
of them stayed with companies like Twitter because they are stuck in a devils bargain regarding immigration , those laid off from Meta
BenderBendingRrrrrrodriguez
Pffft, good luck. I bet the government doesn't even have a ping pong table.
Trollero
The whole world is their ping pong table
WeAllLiveInAUserSubmarine
Oh yeah? One of their wounded veterans played pingpong in recovery and fixed relations with China! He went to see the President... Again...
jpbrickr
Three hots and a cot!
djangojazz
They probably have insane nerf gun wars for training though.
saspurs4
I hear that USP Florence has one.
Preincarnated
Or pens. Or caps for pens.
junkgoof
Are the ping pong tables ever used? Maybe at 2 AM? I've worked places that have stuff like that and it's a head fake for unpaid OT.
BenderBendingRrrrrrodriguez
I worked at a startup a while back. Long hours, but yeah, we actually did decompress at the ping-pong table sometimes.
iprobleywontcommentmuchsoidontcare
I’ll take your money my facilities have ping pong, fooseball and a message chair.
ImpossibleAgenda
My squadron had fooseball and a weight room. We worked 24/7 ops.
ArchMagos
They also drug test, which is a major barrier for a lot of ITs
thisisjunk
They do go big on statues though.
steveohnoes
And pensions
BenderBendingRrrrrrodriguez
I guessyou can duct tape a paddle on their hands or something
thisisjunk
Now you're thinking.
RearAdmiralObvious
Hey, If a defeated enemy general, who stated they didn't want a statue after they lost, got a few built whats to say they don't deserve one?
plexted
they've got something better: pensions, job security, more holidays... if I had it to do over, I'd geta gov'ment job.
kaoticgirl
That's not true, we have one in the office of my wildland firefighting shop! The captains play while seasonals clean the bay.
Sasurau
A lot of holiday's, though.
ToSisPoS
Pizza party or gtfo!
ImpossibleAgenda
Burger burns.
Rainbowdaesh
They have giant ass anime swords though. Well, at least the air force does. And no, that's not a lie.
BenderBendingRrrrrrodriguez
You'd think that, of all the branches, the AF would try to minimize eye-pokings
Unclescam
AF has the most general tech jobs > more nerds...at least that's the stereotype.
Lalatino
I need more information
Rainbowdaesh
https://www.wearethemighty.com/popular/air-force-swords/
Lalatino
Hahaha that extra large sword is awesome
Predicto
They would have to take a massive pay cut. I suspect that other tech companies will easily outbid the government.
thewiggins
from "fired" to "employed" is not exactly a pay cut, they will probably get treated better
TheSecondPiewackit
Then you, my friend, would be surprised. You're aware when they say "government" they mean "Department of Defense" right?
TheSecondPiewackit
They're not hiring these folks to work on the Dept of the Interior website.
Predicto
If you work directly for DoD you don't make big bucks. If you work for a government contractor hired by DoD, you can make big bucks
TheSecondPiewackit
Anything that comes with a security clearance is going to be on the higher end of GS levels. A former Twit turned DoD will have clearance.
MAN9000
We here how government doesn't pay that well but my friends in government get paid better than most people with better than average bnfts
TheSecondPiewackit
This is solidly GS 12-13 territory, which yeah, you do make the big bucks. And a pension. and a TSP. And Federal Bennies. Trust me.
Predicto
I know how the government pays. I'm in state gov't and my wife is in federal. Fact is, a GS 13 is not big bucks in top Silicon Valley tech