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Feb 26, 2020 1:40 PM
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overpolitemidwesterner
Yea as an engineer with a massive company making 60k out of college was a big amount.
Ialwayslookhungover
I've made that much in a year before. Worked enough hours i was deemed legally brain dead, but the paychecks were nice.
OliverClothesoff70
@Op, people who study media bias for a living say MSNBC literally is FoxNews, but from the other side...
DrJoint420
LOL people who study media biased should be aware that majority of those are owned by Sinclair Broadcast Group or George Soros. Either way
DrJoint420
none of them are giving the big picture or real facts
MahonriMoriancumer
The other ridiculous part is thinking young people haven't already had 2-3 jobs all throughout college, and some even in high school.
CMaxwellEsq
What's sad is I'm making $75k and still looking for a second job so I will be able to save any amount of money. Don't start a family, kids.
gorgosaurusrex
I'll pass on the kids and keep my BMW, lol
SuperPickle17
not sure which is worst. Kids or owning a BMW.
BerntheVote2020
Single income family?
CMaxwellEsq
Yep
ReusableBastard
That's on you. I went for the ol' snip snip.
ImaginaryMamboNumber5
According to a cursory Google search, $28,000 is your average entry level wage after college. Make of that what you will.
DrJoint420
How funny is it that good college costs 4 times that to complete?
CatsUpvoteTerror
Engineering grads over here
johnwilliamsistheman
Yup...one year out of college, my friend making the least is making $69,000...I’m making almost 20k more than that...
Chimichanga007
The only news coming out of US without a corporate bias is independent and online. Full stop.
Diggitydigdigs
BBC isn’t bad
gunnexx
Wait till you find out what the abbreviation BBC stands for, you might be shocked
Diggitydigdigs
I wouldn’t say Britain is a “corporate” bias
Bruhbeans
Hmm to much of a generalisation. They're are good journalists in NY Times, Wash. Post, even CNN, who follow the rules and source their
Bruhbeans
Pieces. I think it's more that most people.dont recognize a opinion piece vs. journalistic article. Foxnews is a entertainment show f.e.
muhvitus
Unfortunately there are lots of people who look at mean instead of median when evaluating situation.
HonestCommentFarmer
Nobody ever wants to talk about mode income.
RavioliAficionado
Because it would be $0.
Pokegeologist
Oh no, I must be some kind of peasant dirt farmer on my $32k a year.
Pokegeologist
*sips from Subway cup* Look at me frivolously wasting my last kopeks.
AAspire
MSNBC is owned by Comcast. Terrible company.
tmach99
Comcast! *ping*
dgmarks
Those 24-hour news businesses... They’re all terrible companies.
otherJeffsarefalseJeffs
I know it’s popular to shut all over Comcast, but I worked for them for 12 years in phone tech support. Thanks to their generous as 1/2
otherJeffsarefalseJeffs
Fuck 401k plan I have $100k in retirement at 36 despite never making over $48k/year, I got 3 months off for paternity leave, and they 2/3
otherJeffsarefalseJeffs
Gave me 3 months severance because my wife is in the military and we got assigned somewhere they couldn’t offer me a job. I worked with 3/4
otherJeffsarefalseJeffs
People that were able to buy a house in cash in their mid 30’s because of the generous employee stock purchase plan(wish I had managed 4/5
otherJeffsarefalseJeffs
That better, I’d like have $200k+ in stock). They are a pretty decent company to work for.
Idontknowjeffery
@comcastlover
ComcastLover
maninthedarkness
Not that relevant. MSNBC was using the same formula before Comcast bought NBC
WesleyMun
39 yo, no degree, making 130k... but I live in SF Bay area. So basically still broke. Cost of living here is insane.
RavioliAficionado
Move.
WesleyMun
Single father, ex wife sees the kids every other weekend. Not an option at the moment. But thanks for the super insightful comment
RavioliAficionado
Kill the ex-wife.
Rotarded
The icing is saying they'll be earning that at their first job. Possible? Sure. The norm? Hell to the fuck no.
DiracsDelta
I’m an engineer who’s been out of school 5+ years, and I still don’t make that much.
errrikblack
If you go into business or engineering you will for sure
Xenomania
That's the idea being sold. Reality is far from it. Even in MI, where we have many engineering jobs, most are contract paying <$15/hr.
UnhelpfulAnswers
Incorrect. It's possible for sure but it's def not the norm even in those fields
Jagerbeast
HAHAHAHAHA .... where?
SmolTenk
So, everybody just needs to gon into business or engineering and the problem is solved. Big brain time.
CatsUpvoteTerror
It would help. People getting skills the economy needs
Jagerbeast
I work with a lot if engineers, and 95% dont make that
TheJudgeHasItBackwards
Isn't median HOUSEHOLD income like $60K?
RavioliAficionado
Yes, and that $75,000 number isn't far from the median for college graduates.
BoblbLawsLawBlg
75000 puts you at the 56th percentile of Household income in Charlotte NC. So a little above average.
sylkysmooth
Even if you were making that much or more.. like.. why wouldn't you want ALL of those things for yourself.. and EVERYONE?
CreateYourOwnNormality
For some, it is necessary to have poor people. To keep wages low and as a pool of cheap labour for new growth industry to use.
Dionysus187
Not so much poor but people constantly unsatisfied, struggling and working far more to make up for others with more means working less
TrapsAreIllegal
In Canada, ~10% goes to healthcare, about 8k for me. I've probably not cost the system that much, but it means I don't worry when I do.
RavioliAficionado
If you think $75,000 makes you rich then you're just way off base.
doggo
Sociopathy?
texag10
The people that have to pay for it via higher taxes....
ConfidentlyNaked
disclaimer: I want everyone happy. People earning more would mean more competition for the same real-estate/resources.
Dionysus187
Many people think a 'yay me, fuck you' policy is some okay shit to believe
CatsUpvoteTerror
Don't want a 48% tax rate
MuresanDani
Exactly, who doesn't want free shit? Well aside from those who aren't stupid enough to believe in free shit, that is
TheGhostofElizabethShue
For some people making sure others suffer isn’t a bug, it’s a feature.
Wellmeh7
I have a coworker who said "I was happy with my paycheck until I learned how much others from my department make."
TheGhostofElizabethShue
If they really wanna get mad they should find out how much they're making for the boss.
Wellmeh7
The funniest thing is that they make second best in the department...
galspanic
I would love Sanders to reply to Bloomberg with "Sir, how much does a banana cost?" That'd be highlight reel stuff for ages.
DLOBREWSKY
Context is important here. In Alabama or some parts of Texas a house costs 75k so yes that's a lot. In silicon valley tho? You're lucky to
RavioliAficionado
The whole COL is sort of BS. Those places cost more because you get more. It's like complaining a Ferrari costs more than a Ford.
DLOBREWSKY
Be able to afford a place with 2 roommates, let alone have money left over to do or own anything
johnwilliamsistheman
I’m looking at a 4 bedroom house with 6 other people near San Francisco. We’ll each be paying $1,200 a month for rent alone....
KittyDomination
I'm 25, been working since I was 15. I have never made more that 15k in a year. This is disgusting.
sexymanexy9000
Source other than a tweet? Been trying to find this and can’t cause that does not sound right... could have said, just want source
Slashenaar
https://www.truthorfiction.com/mike-barnicle-college-graduates-75000-a-year/
sexymanexy9000
Who’s the Ghoul? Why isn’t there a name of the actual person who said it?
UnitedGalactic
heyart
Mike Barnicle
sexymanexy9000
Ok, You named a Commentator for MSNBC.... but I’ve continued to search and nothing coming up from him saying this....
TheHourGrowsLate
It was a random offhand comment on a 24 hour news network. Good luck trying to find it.
Slashenaar
https://www.truthorfiction.com/mike-barnicle-college-graduates-75000-a-year/
TheHourGrowsLate
Ah, someone did the work. Thanks for the update.
hetnkik999
I'm making $22k a year at 50 cents over minimum wage somebody please kill me.
AddictiveTendancies
There's independent media online that's being demonetized for exposing anti-Bernie corporate media https://youtu.be/oC6Nlx-qMzI
achillesrage
uh oh, the Bernie Bros are out!
Dionysus187
youtube is a shit show. I can tell you content that talks about politics, finances and health are highly scrutinized
Dionysus187
If you talk about these things and aren't an established media company or wholly positive reputation you are pretty much fucked
Sakkura
Youtube does a lot of shit, but eh... I think that video just got demonetized for the word nazi in the title.
theonewithadream
I hate to be that person. I think you meant demonized not demonetized.
AddictiveTendancies
No, it's cool. I mean demonetized though.
MrZev
75 is normal starting entry level pay after college in some areas though. She did define after college and without a location.
MrZev
50k is norm here in Houston, NYC will be 75k ez. But, non technical jobs, yeah that's crazy. Teachers get 52k starting here.
Lebiche
Friend of mine was on 50k in NYC. 2 years after college. Hydrology and water ressource enginner
MrZev
He is crazy for taking that job. Min wage there is $15 hr 30k a year. Engineer vs working at McDonald's.
MrZev
Which is basically like a dev, but it doesn't scale well.
RavioliAficionado
Teacher pay usually scales pretty well.
MrZev
Dev here starting is like 50k. 15 years exp 100k. Teaching 55k start , 15 years later 62k.
RavioliAficionado
Hmm, here starting is $51k, but top pay (22 years) is $96k. After 15 years it's $88k. But teachers also get a great pension and benefits.
MrZev
Where is that, and what kind of teacher? University or k-12?
Govote
You can check your voter registration at vote.org
DrJoint420
You can check what electoral college is, and who programmed the voting machines too.
Govote
Womp womp. Don't be like this hopeless sack. Get registered and fight back! Check your voter registration at vote.org
DrJoint420
You have a very weak definition of "fighting." you want to fight, better get a yellow jacket and hit the streets
nopenononope
Hey, bud.
Govote
Stop downvoting this guy! He's super supportive!
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nopenononope
Hey, I'm not a troll, I've given you upvotes and messages of positivity every time I see your posts. Keep up the good work.
Govote
Oh my lord I'm so sorry!
Govote
Deleting the message, my bad
Gremlynn4023
Our household income is around there. I call middle class income "broke but comfortable".
BerntheVote2020
Rhacodactylus
Rich people sure do love to pretend they're poor, and pretend that poor people are super rich.
l009
But the poor are super rich in one thing, nothing.
AggressiveChickenSandwich1
It makes them sleep at night easier because they might have to contribute if their guilt or being a decent fucking human being kicks in.
WendyTheWendigo
Never heard it summed up so well before.
Dionysus187
"wish I could get free food every month"
Noksus
The poor should just stop being poor.
AggressiveChickenSandwich1
The Critic's Jay Sherman's Mom suggested shooting the poor into space...
Noksus
Well, unemployment in space is 0%.
CyanideBreathMint
This comment deserves way more upvotes. +1
JarethCutestory
Just get more money! Jesus! So easy, you idiots!
vauhtihirmu
Just save $500 a week and you'll be wealthy real soon!
arthonnen93
Blog websites do this too. Headlines about how to save & the tips are all "Get a second job" or "put away an extra $200 from each paycheck.
arthonnen93
No joke, I read one that suggested renting out your car or buying a duplex and renting out the side you don't live in.
ShenanigansForHireExperiencedBeerTasterAndCraicFacilitator
Toy MP Iain Duncan Smith once said he could live on £53 a week. Meanwhile he expensed £39 for a breakfast.
ProphetOfPhil
He could TOTALLY do it. But he doesn't have to so he won't...
Xenomania
They romanticize poverty, thinking they could easily survive it as a noble peasant. It's complete bullshit.
SAUSAGEmcmuffinwithHASHbrowns
I remember when my parents were poor. And when I was poor. Life was still full of love and joy. But lots of challenges.
keyblader1985
Yes, I also remember right now.
Xenomania
Love and companionship help.
alecdshope
You just don't appreciate how expensive it is to be rich.
ConfidentlyNaked
Most people on here would call me rich. I definitely don't feel like I am. Not gonna pretend I'm poor, but it could just be perspective.
anjorni
Not rich by any means, but CONSTANTLY BROKE, and that has led to MASSIVELY in debt. Soapbox would say I overspend, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
TheCardq
In general, people feel like they are closer to the typical case than they actually are. Unless you’re extremely poor or extremely rich 1/2
TheCardq
You’d feel like everyone must make about as much as you do. This is true for people making less than 20k a year as well for people 2/3
TheCardq
More than 200k a year.
Dagordae
Everyone tends to think of themselves as normal. The issue arises when someone with no perspective tries to put themselves in someone else’s
Dagordae
Position. Why 75-80k? Because from their perspective, that’s a small amount and thus that’s what poor people make. Works the other way too,
Dagordae
That’s why lottery winners have a high tendency to blow through the winnings and end up deep in debt. They won a million dollars, therefore
Dagordae
As far as they are concerned they are now super rich and thus have infinite money. The human brain is really bad at numbers.
CyanideBreathMint
I feel rich when I have two figures in my account the day before payday.
AlGoreSexTape
It's fine to feel that. What's wrong is to be a political commentator and somehow ignore the massive evidence that no, you are an outlier
sassycephalopod
I make $35500 and it's the highest salary I've made with a college degree. Who's getting $75000???
derel1cte
My first job out of college was $35k, but my salary doubled within a year. 10 years later I’m at $175k. CompSci + Finance. It’s not hard.
agmlego
I make about $85k in Michigan as an engineer with over a decade under my belt. I just make ends meet with student loans and mortgage.
HenryLongfellowIII
Starting salary for compsci can be double that easy. Fintech too, but long hours.
Imayhavebeenhacked
i graduated 4 yrs ago and make 105k. accounting degree
gorgosaurusrex
I make $70k annually with no degree. IT desktop support for state government.
YoungJables
/a/vFuymUf
BerntheVote2020
The3DPrintingPolak
Engineer here. Started at 60k. 4 years later at 80k. But I had to bust ass for that degree for 5.5 years
isthatwhatthemustacheisfor
Some engineer/sales/jobs in expensive cities
DrPepperWho
I'm just putting this out there......I work at a janitorial company. I make $80K/year as a senior level manager. It's possible.
PunsExceptTheyAreAFewHoursLate
I was lucky to have a job for a bit out of college where, if it wasn't seasonal, would net $30k. But now I'm unemployed...
forcedfx
Web/DB programmer. A lot depends on your market. I could make double if I were willing to travel to the city. But family time means more.
olson23409
Im lazy as shit and made 26gs in 6 months last year and I quit high school..how is this possible?
HootSloot
Me, mechanical engineer. More now but within 5 years of graduation.
indiehedgehog
I was making $32k/yr at my first job out of college. Now 5 years later is around $84k. (I work in biotech in the bay area)
periwinklehornet
Every single person in Seattle.
FoldedCorner
Webdev, starting pay was $75k for me 3 yrs ago
BerntheVote2020
*sweats nervously Bc I don’t even have a degree much less college experience*
CatsUpvoteTerror
My coworker was a DJ now makes way more then me. Software QA
gorgosaurusrex
You can get a great job without a degree. If you're looking at an IT field start with A+ and Network+ certifications. $300 each!
gary46265
Neither of which are required. Plenty of really good jobs out there if you look.
BerntheVote2020
I know how lucky I am but I’ve also been working full time since I was 17. My life was definitely nothing like my peers in late teens/20’s.
Xenomania
I made less as a teacher, which requires a 4 yr degree and practicum. I felt blessed.
Norrah
a teacher starts out at like 50k in Denmark. Which includes universal healthcare through taxes.
Xenomania
If I could I would've moved to Scandinavia. It's a joke at what's considered normal here.
CatsUpvoteTerror
Engineers /tech majors
gary46265
What do you do for a living?
overlythinky
I was an archaeologist that only made $37000 and I was one of the highest paid field archaeologists at my firm. It was worth it though tbh.
BerntheVote2020
My dream job. That or an astronaut.
gary46265
Sounds like a cool job to have.
Imayhavebeenhacked
the cool jobs dont pay well apparently.
applesforjuice
I'm an engineer my first job was 70k and 5 years later I'm making 135 but my loans are crazy
mlemmlemmlemmlem
My husband is an engineer. He’s 28 making 85k. STEM degrees should be pushed more often.
DarthDrizzt42
Yup same, aerospace and first job started me at just under $70K all together
InstroWarren9
I'm also an engineer making 114k a year now and graduated with bachelor's 7 years ago, started at 91k out of college. Its possible..
coffeetime
shhh don't tell them you took a degree program that actually pays
InstroWarren9
Lmao
NoChance16
The fact that's it's atypical is kind of the point. If literally everyone became an engineer it wouldn't pay well anymore.
Pbtibma
Not all engineering degrees pay as well as others. For example don't get into designing roads if you like good pay and not arguing.
azazyel
JanoahDavis42688
Well sometimes I get tired of ramen noodles
GreaterDog
I still remember this. Fucking ridiculous
TanDumpLord
What the fuck?! What are they complaining about then?
Cjlance246
"They are not *really* poor, so they don't need our help"
TanDumpLord
I know. I'm joking.
goldfishcrackersbetweentheseats
This is some BS. They have refrigerators because FHA requires one in the house. That's if you're lucky enough to buy your home.
azazyel
Also
LordBaneoftheSith
Fox reports, poor is the new rich
kojenk
The level of ignorance about such things astounds me. we're in 2020 not the 1800s. people can afford such items but its medicine & insurance
kojenk
which burdens them. Most people are just 1 medical emergency away from destitution. One illness from homelessness. household items are cheap
ColdestOne
If you're so poor then how can you afford enough food to save for later? You don't need a refrigerator.
JHawke
Refridgerators and freezers make it considerably easier to save some money. Suddenly being able to buy more stuff on discount and such.
bward141989
Bought a giant second hand freezer for £100. Paid for itself in <3 months by letting us stock up on super cheap food.
WholesomePyromaniac
I have actually been that poor before. I had a job and an apartment and in that apartment I had a sleeping bag and I used my duffle as a 1/2
WholesomePyromaniac
Pillow. Kinda just bought whatever I could pay for food. Skipped breakfast and dinner and drank work coffee every morning.
paulbloface
/s?
wannabecowboy
I thought it was but apparently not judging by other people’s comments.
SimpleJack35
Cheaper foods don't need refrigeration like beans and rice
PangolinBan
If you want to be able to feed someone - maybe not even yourself, maybe simply your kids - in a way that's both nutritious and cheap, a 1/2
PangolinBan
2/2 refrigerator makes a world of difference. More so if you don't have time to go grocery shopping on a near-daily basis.
DonnaNobleInTheLibrary
TV dinners need a fridge and a microwave. Beans and rice need a stove, pots, knives and such, fridge and containers for leftovers …
DonnaNobleInTheLibrary
In short: yes, basic ingredients are cheaper, but you need to buy way more shit to get started.
DonnaNobleInTheLibrary
Imagine being so poor that you have to go without food for half a month just to buy some basic kitchen stuff.
POTUSBrown
We don't need to help poor people because the have *looks at card* refrigerators.
BishlamekGurpgork
Did that really run? Do we know that's not edited?
6313326
It really, really ran. FNC was on a tear for a while because "poor" in the US usually ≠ absolute 3rd world poverty, so no room to complain.
InTheDistanceAPlaintiveEnglishHorn
Even poor people in Brazil have refrigerators and TVs
6313326
Good point. "1930s Dust Bowl poverty" might have been a better metric.
azazyel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Al5E3KbIfeo
BishlamekGurpgork
Thank you. I will make some use of this.
HonestCommentFarmer
This just in, the consumers in a consumer economy have consumer goods.
TheGooey
I remember watching that broadcast live!! O'Reilly is such a disingenuous jerk. It also sucks to be around long enough to see worse.
srsfaceI8C
As bad as he was, I feel like Carlson is even worse. That whole network is a fraud.
kingbudo101
All apartments (at least in my area) have one there when you move in
RydWolf
1) Idea! Have several of those pundits collaberate on what they think a "poor" household should look like and what they should have...
RydWolf
2) Then after they're done, have them live there for 6 months while still doing their 'jobs' but at minimum wage.
MoschopsUK
Having a refrigerator frequently costs less than not having one. True story.
thatsbadmmkay
I pay to use someone elses refrigerator on a montly basis.
mikeatike
Apartment, or....?
Kalicula
He sneaks into a home regularly. He doesnt pay money but does pay dearly when he's caught
Arbitrarynamehere
This is the plot of Parasite
GlowstickJedi
No, he lives in a refrigerator.
TheSpleen
...under the sea
Housemaster
YOU CAN'T FOOL ME INDIANA JONES!
TheDogEnd
You got a genuine belly-laugh out of me, friend
GlowstickJedi
Hope it brightened your day :)
tReasonoustRump
naytorin
It isn't even exaggeration
Bruhbeans
Such a cunt
KartFnocker
UndulatingTerrain
'Fucking muscle memory!'
tReasonoustRump
Meryck
Treason for the season. Sounds about right.
LariCheltsy
TheGame21x
She did the quiet part loud!
Gryphonosiris
It's so obvious it was intentional that one must wonder why she even bothers to turn it to a wave?
OliverClothesoff70
I despise her, but can't help but wonder if she did that little move to shine on the hard left people who clearly lost their minds over it.
Silas007
It is designed to spark outrage and then point to that with "Can you believe those libs are offended by waving now?" Pure rage bait.
Kopar
I'm really not a conspiracy guy but what the fuuuuck. If you wanted to sneak one in, that's exactly how you do it but that particular motion
Kopar
is so fucking awkward that if it is actually not at all what she meant, wtf was she trying to do? She does the salute, then morphs into
taciturnpachyderm
I think her father is a nazi sympathizer and her own brother said she's a vile human being with similar views, so it was 100% intentional
Kopar
3) waves and points. Again, how you sneak it in there, because wtf else is she doing in that first part but that? She's not holding her hand
nopost
The fuck is she even doing?
ThisDeservesMoreUpvotes
her best
unevenload
looking for love wherever she can find it...
azazyel
Trying to 'trigger libs' cause they don't like straws and non LED lights and steak I think?
spiffylookingnerfherder
If she can eat a steak with a straw I'd be somewhat impressed.
briham86
Anyone who tries that hard to trigger someone is clearly triggered themselves.
azazyel
I'm just offended that they wasted a steak
PimpinKen
I'm liberal. I eat steak. Use straws. I own LED lights, but only because conventional bulbs cost 10x more a month to use.
clucja1
I mean who is that dumb that they think conventional bulbs are better? They are only better if you are using them as a heat source.
thefatlonelyjew
Why is trying to save the planet a liberal thing now
tyrpestdeath
Something something fuck you pussy compassion is for homos? I dunno.
Akurei00
Because science is fake news. God wouldn't let us destroy this planet unless it was his will.
thefatlonelyjew
Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought we all lived on one planet
mikeatike
I was going to say "haha funny", but you are actually right. Fuck me Fox News viewers are stupid.
Pixel8yt
Youre out of college....at 26.... make 75k so much wrong with that sentence. I'm 27, 4 years out of college, making 50 k and I'm doing well
Bandlith
I just hit 35 and $40K and its still a bitch.
TheDarknessInTheHeartsOfMen
36, been to college twice, making 42k
BerntheVote2020
What are your degrees in?
gorgosaurusrex
I'm 30, no college, making $70k annually working in IT. Just bought my dream BMW. I recognize that I got lucky lol.
OtterlyMagnificent
27, 5 years out of college, and this year is the first one I've broken 60K (And that was because of 6 months of 70+ hour weeks)
Norrah
34, I'm at 75k now (with pension) but I had to do two years with 0k to be here. However, it's a pretty ordinary salary in Denmark tbh.
OtterlyMagnificent
Ah, yeah, not in America.
Norrah
It would be if money got out of your politics. It's insane what is allowed in America. People would go straight to jail here.
OtterlyMagnificent
It's because money buys power, and power buys lawmakers. If they made Lobbying illegal it might change something, but not immediately, and1/
HomelessJesus
All depends on where you live, I’m in NY and have been making over 100k a year since I was 19, still can’t afford to move out
generalbone
Drug dealing is a nice gig, but the family business isnt something you just walk away from.
HomelessJesus
Try union engineer but thanks tho
lesliebugs
The average college grad from the class of 2018 started at $50-60k so he's not that far off. More relevant degree can get you way more.
NasaNasaBoBasa
Source?
lesliebugs
SHRM has a breakdown by popular fields, just google "average starting salary out of college".
aeolous16
I was almost at that range at 26/27, but I was also EXTREMELY lucky, typical experience of most of my college friends was far less.
whoisyourdaddy
Everything on this page is a little wrong... What's your field? Where do you live? Mom/pop shop, startup, global behemoth? It all matters!
Pixel8yt
IT for the largest children's hospital in Atlanta Georgia
Pixel8yt
And one of the number 1 ranking children's hospital in the country yet we lost two techs due to over working and they refuse to replace
whoisyourdaddy
Post your job on Monster/craigslist. (don't list $$). If you get <3 responses you can ask for a raise. If you get 100, field is saturated.
RoodKontjeAapje
Shiiiit, I'd be happy if I made 50k halfway through my career.
Jabberwotchi
32 making 29k =_=
MoRock90
Dude i feel ya. 29 making the same :/
historyboeuf
I'm 26,4 years out of college in May and making 40k and getting my MBA. I'm thankful I can afford to live and save a life each month.
InstroWarren9
I mean, I graduated with my engineering degree at 25 years old and got a job starting at 91k. It's possible but rare...
InstroWarren9
Definitely not something everyone can do, shit can be hard for people out there in today's economy.
HootSloot
I was 4 years into my career as an engineer before I passed $75k.
Temenos
30 years, was 12 years a chef on 40k, changed to IT support, after i finish education this summer i have a job lined up for 80k (Danish tho)
bluesky92
Im a mechanic at a brewery with a 2 Year AAS and I make between 65K and 75K USD per year.
fathogwrestler
Depends where you live and your job. My daughter made 100k right out of college. RN in California.
codeman1029
also matters where you work. in some areas 75k isn't unheard of, but local economy makes that money less effective than 50k elsewhere
johnwilliamsistheman
Yup. I graduated college last may. I make $85k. But then again I’m an engineer in the Bay Area. My software eng friends make $100k+
SomeDetroitGuy
I'm just used to programmer salaries, I guess. My entry level new hires make $70-75k, my folks with 3-5 years experience are making $80k+
Pixel8yt
Programing is one of the highest salaries out of college grab the right combo of languages and your making 90 k
TheRussMartinShow
Depends on what you went to school for.Ive got friends with Masters making 50-60k while my two year technical degree grossed 75k this year
Pixel8yt
4 year computer degree with a focus in digital forensics found out you can't get a job straight out in digital forensics
TheRussMartinShow
That’s rough man. Sounds like an awesome career though otherwise. Hope you get a deserved bump in pay
porrages
Just hit 30. A decade of experience in the game industry. I've got my fingers crossed that a 75k job I interviewed for calls me back. 1/2
porrages
Current scumbag company cut 5k from my salary, but I'm still making 50k with health insurance, so I consider myself lucky.
Norrah
The game industry is a thanksless job - in terms of hours and pay. Your skills are valued higher elsewhere. You have my thanks at least.
AKDeeps
What do you do in the industry, I'm in VR and will make close to 12k this month
porrages
QA Lead/Management. Making the jump to other types of software QA has been tricky.
AKDeeps
Gotcha, hope you get it!
porrages
Thanks! =D
TheGhostofElizabethShue
sorry, in news pundit world you're some unthinkable peasant.
Areyouin44
Haha I don't know why but that actually got me to lol. I'm gonna be honest with you, I lean right, but something about this post 1/2...
Areyouin44
Really is turning some gears for me. I made 80k right out of high school in a salesy job that I was exceptional at (not bragging but I did
Areyouin44
very well) then I quit that job to make 40 k as a cop, it was a dream of mine and I had no debt and a ton of savings, so I've been the
Areyouin44
Exception people point to 'see you can make a lot of money' and the more general, normal income earner. Straight up though, I'm going back
CatsUpvoteTerror
Me two years out of a Computer science degree
cyple13
Same, 26, 5 years out of college making 90k+. Everyone here makes me feel like a villian.
Pixel8yt
Programing? Nah make sense long time , must constantly produce product and not many know how to do it. So salary makes sense
CatsUpvoteTerror
I'm software QA . I literally just use our website to see if stuff works
paulbloface
No begrudging your success, congrats. It's just ridiculous how out of touch some people are that they think it's the norm.
upvoteforwhat
Naa, I dont think any of my friends left college making any less than 50k/yr. Hitting that 75k benchmark took a bit of time but 1/2
upvoteforwhat
Most of them hit that between 26-30 years of age. So the idea isnt that crazy.
lildumptruck
Lol naaa in my tiny world view things are different. You should apply at msnbc chief, you’d fit right in
gorgosaurusrex
My brother and his wife both left college with jobs making $70k+, but he's and engineer and she's a lawyer lol
Pixel8yt
Cool I tried applied for months IT degree bachelor's and nothing would hire me. Worked at Walmart until I got lucky and found a position
Pimparoo3
Good for you then? That doesn't seem to reflect a lot of peoples realities though. I know it's not mine
upvoteforwhat
Yeah but the idea that somone is so out of touch with reality because they think people out of college are making around 75k is ridiculous1/
upvoteforwhat
When it's very easy, and fairly common depending on the field of study. 2/2
NasaNasaBoBasa
Of all the degrees out there, in what percentage would you say this is a common salary?
Pixel8yt
I was an it major. Unless your doing programing , engineering or major medical field your not getting 75k out of college and if every one
Pimparoo3
Oh very easy is it? That's not the reality for most of us and you know it. Those of us that do get there usually have to fight and/
INeverReadTheTOS
Uh. That's literally a super Fox-News-y thing to say, though.
Billis75
The thing with MSNBC is that they have a total hate-boner for Bernie, so I imagine this is in the context of bashing his education platform.
loma45
Honestly MSNBC is almost as bad as Fox, it's just on the other side of the political spectrum. It's mostly garbage
Billis75
It depends from pundit to pundit. I'll always defend Rachel Maddow as being the most intellectually honest. The rest are insufferable.
AsAHistorian
There are a handful(ish) of decent folks on Fox, too. I'm as anti-Fox as anyone, but Chris Wallace, Napolitaon, and Shep Smith (former) 1/2
AsAHistorian
at least seemed to be consistent in their principles and hold truth to power now and again. The rest of them are the absolute worst. 2/2
loma45
Agreed - even fox has more credible pundits than others (like Chris Wallace)
UnitedGalactic
Chris Wallace has lost his mind in the last two weeks.
HonestCommentFarmer
More or less. Every now and then she'll bandy out the "Trump does this all for Russia" implication and it makes me respect her less for it.
TheGhostofElizabethShue
But it’s not left.
INeverReadTheTOS
Oh, it IS left. It's just "corporate left". As in, exactly the same thing as corporate right, except they lobby the DNC instead of the GOP.
PiggyWobbles
"corporate left" is a contradiction. They're neoliberals; their corporate stoogery inherently makes them "not of the left"
LoquaciousDude
That depends on what you mean with left. If by left you mean liberal, then that's a true statement.
PiggyWobbles
Its the opposite. left =/= liberals. Leftists would fund a public healthcare system fully, liberals would find some loopy tax incentive to >
BelarusianPotatoFarmer
So you think the left isn't full of disconnected rich white people? Man have I got some bad news for you....
fiierturret
Woosh
PiggyWobbles
you must be confusing trust fund baby neoliberals like anderson cooper with actual leftist politics
thatsbadmmkay
He's saying its not a left value. And Msnbc only pretends to be left when theyre actually pro capitalist, pro war, pro corporation.
YourMomsNewBoyfriend
Liberals and leftists are not the same
YourMomsNewBoyfriend
Liberals are conservatives who don’t mind gays. Leftists want actual economic reform
LoquaciousDude
Liberal and conservative describe two different things. It’s possible to be liberal and progressive.
YourMomsNewBoyfriend
Progressive and conservative both describe types of liberalism. Liberalism is over arching philosophy of the American political spectrum.
YourMomsNewBoyfriend
And to clarify I’m using classical definitions, not modern American ones. Modern America is a right wing parody
TheGhostofElizabethShue
Hunter12396
See this is the problem with you radical leftists, you've gone so far to the left that literally everyone else is an "alt right nazi"
UnitedGalactic
Other way around, right wingers are extreme right. Trump supporters killing immigrants, fighting against Healthcare, pro guns.
oddizee
What's your definition of left?
thatsbadmmkay
Go issue for issues. War, legalizing marijuana, healtcare. Most dems are in the same page as reps. Compare with the majority of
Ialwayslookhungover
Pro union and total redistribution of wealth. Removal of all class structures.
glaug
Broadly speaking, left positions promote egalitarianism and equality over hierarchy, especially in labor. A socialist, for example, »
gunnexx
Idealistically? Che/Castro. They had shit implementation but their ideas would be very left
SatanGoatWhore
Hahahahaha Bernie "left of center". Hilarious.
Imayhavebeenhacked
Trump isnt far right either, hes a democrat pretending to be a repub for a few years.
TheGhostofElizabethShue
Yeah, I didn't make it. I'd have put him a smidge right of the middle.
Asikar
As someone who only grossed $24,000ish before taxes last year, yeah... upwards of $70k is little more than a pipe dream for me.
fatass1337
F
StarvedDemon
I raised a family of 4 on (averaged) $35,000 for 16 years. We're now a family of 6 on (averaged) $50,000.
Snuffdigit
You can buy a lot of condoms with 35k
doggo
I'm making close to the bottom of that, gross, but it took 27 years to get there. And I only net about 39.
snarflex
Depends where you live, obviously. Parts of California? $75k is well below the official poverty line.
srslydude
I just got a job that’s gonna pay me $32,000 a year and I feel like I just won the lottery.
Iloveanonymityandilovebeingnoticed
My aunt: “my son just got his first job! Only $52k, but it’s a start!” Me: “...my hubs & I don’t make that combined.”
BarryInTheStreetsOliverInTheSheets
Occupation and education?
JimmiRustler
I have what's considered a high paying job doing IT Full union and all that shit fighting for wages. I don't even make that much. I cannot
JimmiRustler
Fathom how they think that's is the median salary for the middle/lower class
GoddamndSexualTyranosaur
Same, thankful i live at home but car payment and student debt keep me from saving fast enough for house
Wearegrid2
The years I worked before my current college situation I made 10k a year and was living the high Life. Idk what I would do with 70k
lostlittletimeonthis
I made half of that and am paying for a house and kids...I don't see what people need that much money for anymore
ACanadianPerson
What do you do?
DV8fromNormal
Over 22 years as a teacher and still not anywhere near that number. I won't come within 15K of that number. Yeah I don't pay for crappy 1/2
DV8fromNormal
insurance, but is it worth it to be a teacher anymore?
MagiicHat
Honestly, why are banks allowed to give you loans for that kind of degree? You have no chance of paying it back, so they must plan on u fail
DrJoint420
uuuum ever heard of corporate dictatorship? Since when do the banks care about us?
MagiicHat
I can't get a $100k loan for a Porsche, but no problem taking $100k for a worthless degree. At least they could repo the car when i default.
MagiicHat
Basically: what is the business sense in making an unrepayable loan? Banks care about money, but you can't make any if it's not paid back.
Naternutts
There loans are subsidized by the government.
MagiicHat
Ahhhh... now it makes sense. Gov always fucking shit up.
Naternutts
Bingo.
ConfidentlyNaked
Gonna sound out of touch but, how tf do y'all get by? My dad died last year and his funeral was $5k, at it was on a budget.
Majeda
I know my coworkers live with roommates to be able to afford a apartment. I live with my boyfriend in his parents home. We've been saving
Majeda
For three years, for a 3% deposit to buy a home. We'll need to get a rent paying roommate to afford the mortgage. We haven't been
Majeda
Able to do ANYTHING, for the last 3 years. Not even have dinner out with the children or celebrate their birthdays properly.
WellBehavedWomenRarelyMakeHistory
I live in a trailer, got a roomie, cook all my own food, never go on vacation, wear clothes until the seams fall apart and drive an 11yo car
ConfidentlyNaked
Feel free not to share but how much do you make and how much can you save under those conditions?
WellBehavedWomenRarelyMakeHistory
I make $1.4k a month (19k/year). With no roommate, I break even. With a roommate I can save $200-400/month. During the holidays I can (1)
WellBehavedWomenRarelyMakeHistory
Save even more because I go home and my parents pay for food and my house utilities are lower.
iamdeathnote
I used to make ~15k a year pre tax. I couldn't save. I got evicted from my first place because of a one week hospital stay and lost enough
iamdeathnote
Income to not be able to afford rent
TW3RKZILLA
Not in my city. :/
craighope1982
As someone who grossed £18k 24k is a fuck ton of overtime and even then I lose 33% to the tax assholes
Iloveanonymityandilovebeingnoticed
At our highest, my hubs and I combined never made more than $60 I think. And we live in California. We now make our lowest & have 2 kids.
Ayemconfoozed
Are you all talking before or after taxes?
EveryonesCousin
Same. Had a great year once and made 45k. Spent every dime on health costs, changed jobs, 22k this last year.
melandevile2000
That’s about how much I made too.. and I perform anesthesia almost everyday. On pets, more important than people.
derJake
Consentually or just random pets? Are you working for PETA? Show us your LinkedIn profile!
waitbutactually
Are you a vet or a tech though?
melandevile2000
I’m an LVT, so I’m like 10 specialists in 1!
CapableTrash
As a fellow veterinary health worker, I understand your suffering. You can be a high school dropout managing gamestop and make more
DrJoint420
That's fucked up. Especially considering that athletes out there make millions kicking a ball while people in the health field that do real
DrJoint420
leg work make only dimes.
Aldhur
It took me 4 years and 3 different jobs to get to $35k from $25k. Passed $40k last year due to A LOT of overtime.
noxdracoria
*high five* that's pretty close to what I earn with my good paying job (great pay shitty hours) hubby and I combined after tax approx 36k
Ruffusmaximus
(1/2) My wife and I have a total $39,000 a year with 3 kids...we rent from my in-laws and that is the only reason we make it ...some months
Ruffusmaximus
(2/2) some months we have a little extra but most months we are left with double digits in the bank... building up savings is hard
shootswithhappysunshine
I graduated college and my first job makes over 70,000.... I work in a dairy plant. It's dirty, long hours and night shift. But I literally
shootswithhappysunshine
make more than all of my college peers and have payed off all of my debt. I have peers who didn't even graduate highschool making 70k.
LittleWheelsAndCactuss
Literally no one I know graduated HS making 70k that's insane
shootswithhappysunshine
And we interview people all the time less qualified than I'm sure you are (literally anyone reading this) who turn down working here.
shootswithhappysunshine
I don't know everyone's situation, but I really do believe that if you make less 20$ an hour it is because you are eliminating options based
shootswithhappysunshine
on false pretenses.
TrapsAreIllegal
Is that livable?
playatwork
It’s all about budgeting. Which most people have no idea what that means
ElbowDeep
Depends, do your service providers allow extensions, and would you rather be warm, or fed lol
igotausernamejusttotellyou
As someone who makes this, yes and no. If I didn’t have roommates to keep my rent down, no. With roommates, yes, but it’s hard at times
CrybabyBiitch
I have on disability and get 8,440 a year. ?
GenStrike
Shit dude. Disability here is ~15000. 2/3 of that goes to rent.
CrybabyBiitch
Yeah it's hard.
TheDarknessInTheHeartsOfMen
No
Popspoppingit
Not in San Diego county. Source: me, living in San Diego County.
iCurse
Does it matter? In the end you so what you must, spend only what you have to, share a 2bed1bath with 6 other people. Gotta survive
ShrubNinja
If you eat a lot of eggs and rice.
TheCardq
Depends on many things. But as long as you don’t get sick enough that you want to get care you can make it work in more places than not.
bubwubster
I scrapped by with 19k last year. It fucking sucks but Florida is a shit hole
blue9uy
That's how much I earn. I live in DE, own a town house, only car payment. Which alright for me and my wife with spare to enjoy
mydogisbetterthanyourdog
But does your wife earn as well? Because then your household expenses are paid by the household earnings, not yours alone.
blue9uy
Nop, but hopefully after soon haha
spiffylookingnerfherder
You earn $24k/yr and own your own home?
blue9uy
Yeah, well I am lucky enough that parents brought us a townhouse. So that definitely helped. Or else I'm fked
spiffylookingnerfherder
No doubt! That's a whole different ball game. Glad it's working out for you; not a lot of folks have parents who can or will help like that.
YOURFRIEND2010
I made 13,337$ one year. I remember the sum cuz it's funny. But that year was very lean. I was hungry a lot. Lot of rice.
Dragonofthewest718
That’s how I’m feeling now, I’m a teacher with my wedding in a couple months. Ive been eating lots of cereal and rice the past couple months
YOURFRIEND2010
Kills me to read that. Eggs and rice go a long way. I hope our country starts treating your profession better soon.
Eldis
It's not profitable for the oligarchs to have educated people. Billionaires are mass-lobbying to make public education even worse.
TW3RKZILLA
Mmmmm, they won’t but we’ll keep trying.
lookingforapurpose
And it sticks with you for years. I still eat eggs and oatmeal for most meals because of years of poverty.
Asikar
Barely. It helps that the cost of living is dirt cheap where I love though.
ElbowDeepInStudentDebt
Huh! Income buddies! Yea, i keep my cost of living low too by eating terribly and living in the forest! (no, this ain't a joke)
Hereagain
I'd ask where you live, but people figured out AZ was "cheaper" and MFers have been flocking here driving housing costs ever upward.
Asikar
I live in the post industrial wasteland that is western PA. No opportunities means low housing.
KarlRoyGabriel
Bradford area?
lowburn
Oof western PA is a nightmare.
BarbedWireCatheter
I have been just about everywhere in the US, and western PA was the most depressing place in the entire country. “The Road” does it justice
Asikar
Seriously, the biggest thing in my town is a fucking Wal-Mart.
ThankYouForYourTime
Yes. I lived on less, with no car. It sucked a lot but it can be done. It made me realize alot of things about myself.
7thor8thcaw
How can you work without a car? Where I am, it would be almost impossible.
ThankYouForYourTime
Uber, family letting me borrow vehicles when necessary. Remote work.
olson23409
Temp agencies and some companies now bus people around over here
Jemolk
I'm on 22k, $1000 rent, walk to work. You get by, and if you care enough to think about it, you grow in some good ways. >>
7thor8thcaw
Wow. I'm on the cheap side at $1175 before utilities or anything else. I couldn't swing 22k with 2 kids.
Jemolk
That said, stress from deep financial insecurity is taxing. Character building is one thing - working 60hr weeks to still feel >>