On one hand, we do kill a lot of people- not just the peaceful ones.
On the other hand, George Carlin needed a kick in the nuts for increasing the amount of cynicism and apathy in the voting public. We were on the way towards a progressive future, then he gets famous, he pushes nihilistic cynicism about how voting doesn't work, then Reagan won. And the GOP continued to win as liberals/progs/leftists stayed home and declared that it was hopeless. He's both insightful and destructive.
The shitty part is, the math just works out that way. People who don't kill generally preach peace, not killing things. Those who do kill will preach whatever, and they will not be the same person. Statistically, if all "choices" are going to happen, at least a non-zero time, we can probably assume that a killer will eventually kill a peaceful person.
I miss him too but I'm kind of glad that he didn't live to see all of this. I know I wish I hadn't. I guess it's probably more positive to say I wish none of it happened but hey, what can ya do.
I'm inclined to believe you, but at the same time, the man devoted a whole album to attacking the Reagan administration, and the Christian right were always fair game. Honestly, a Carlin filter on current events would help me process a lot of this bullshit better.
Honestly, I've sometimes found myself being jealous of my friends who are already dead. I'm not doing bad, but they didn't have to witness any of this.
I wouldn't say that Malcolm X was really telling us to "live in peace" and "Love one another."
That was the ideal, but he was more practical about it... literally "Be ready to die and fight for your freedom" and "Equal Rights By any means necessary".
More 'equality' and less blind peace and niceness.
I just remember the John Valby song, “Eat Bite” which I mentioned once and a lady colleague - who I thought was this innocent little waif - remembered it verbatim.
I want to hear him shred on ice and all the other children with guns in discount body armor that are somehow getting a paycheck from us to make their bedsheet wearing grandpappy proud
His direct stated viewpoints during one interview pretty well match my own. Democrats are incompetent and only kinda care about the average person, but Republicans are just plain Saturday morning cartoon villain evil.
Because he's irreverent and Republicans believe that liberal culture is the dominant force in modern culture, and thus, irreverence = disdain for liberalism, even though Carlin's viewpoints come across as being strongly opposed to conservatism in any form. Also, his belief that voting is useless, which, well, you know how Republicans think about voting. His anti-voting stance is the one thing I genuinely hold against him.
He was always very caustic, and I got the feeling his later specials did drift towards cynicism. Still obviously ideologically left, but in modern language, a bit of a Doomer.
I never knew him while he was alive, but the more i learn about him the more i think he was privileged enough not to have to worry about a lot of things minorities have to. he made a lot of good points, but also a bunch of points that were just calling minorities too sensitive over "things that dont matter". even though minorites are debating those things because if they dont form a strong identity for their group, then it makes it easier for horrible people to make their lives unlivable
That dominant force thing crystallized something for me, which is that this meshes perfectly with the grievance politics and religious persecution complex.
Also re voting, I agree with you, but in mild defense the consequences of voting weren't quite so starkly defined and dire back before he put on the wooden onesie
>His anti-voting stance is the one thing I genuinely hold against him.
To be fair, when he passed, it was "corporate dick sucker D vs corporate dick sucker R," not "Lady who has good ideas but isn't perfecg vs racist Nazi pedophile"
I am not versed enough in his antivoting stance. I could Google, but it's more interesting to talk to people. I thought he generally thought voting was bullshit due to lack of actual choice. I.e. Do you vote for the fiscally conservative centrist Democrat or the fiscally conservative centrist Republican? The illusion of choice and all that. Please, lemme know :D
This is basically it. The Dem party are owned by the hoghest bidder, just like the Reps are, but the difference is that if a politician actually HAS any principles and wants to make the world a better place, they'll join the Dems.
But I agree with OP here. George is right about the problems with voting in America, but his stance is a very privileged one. Not participating in the system doesn't immunise you from the system. Just means you decided it's not worth trying to make it less shit.
He also died before the republican party started proudly saying the quiet part out loud. I'm sure his views would be a bit different on that these days.
GBMaker
** Looks nervously at all the red hats in the room **
freshthrowaway1138
On one hand, we do kill a lot of people- not just the peaceful ones.
On the other hand, George Carlin needed a kick in the nuts for increasing the amount of cynicism and apathy in the voting public. We were on the way towards a progressive future, then he gets famous, he pushes nihilistic cynicism about how voting doesn't work, then Reagan won. And the GOP continued to win as liberals/progs/leftists stayed home and declared that it was hopeless. He's both insightful and destructive.
LaughAtMemeInjectReason
The shitty part is, the math just works out that way. People who don't kill generally preach peace, not killing things. Those who do kill will preach whatever, and they will not be the same person. Statistically, if all "choices" are going to happen, at least a non-zero time, we can probably assume that a killer will eventually kill a peaceful person.
usernamesarenotcomments
I don't think Kirk or Thompson promoted love and care for your neighbor. I guess we could be changing for the better.
Lassannn
drduffer
One of my favorite Carlin quotes, probably because I’m a Doc:
“Good health is just another way of saying that you’re dying more slowly!”
ChazzK
George wasn't ahead of his time. Just there's way too many people BEHIND theirs.
theinternetkeepsmealive
He would have been epic in these current times but I also wouldn't wish these wretched times on him.
mikeatike
Carlin died in 2008, so unfortunately he got a very good look at where things were going. :(
MuffinProof
Duck god vs rabbit god
mikeatike
Wabbit season!
HarryDresdenIsMySpiritAnimal
On the other hand: we got Charlie Kirk, so that's nice.
Comet260
Somebody did, that's for sure.
MagmaCarta
I miss the wisdom of Carlin. Politics, parenting, aging, culture....
UndulatingTerrain
...pussy farts
dooremouse
I miss him too but I'm kind of glad that he didn't live to see all of this. I know I wish I hadn't. I guess it's probably more positive to say I wish none of it happened but hey, what can ya do.
MagmaCarta
I'm inclined to believe you, but at the same time, the man devoted a whole album to attacking the Reagan administration, and the Christian right were always fair game. Honestly, a Carlin filter on current events would help me process a lot of this bullshit better.
wejustdontknow
Honestly, I've sometimes found myself being jealous of my friends who are already dead. I'm not doing bad, but they didn't have to witness any of this.
bobthefunny
I wouldn't say that Malcolm X was really telling us to "live in peace" and "Love one another."
That was the ideal, but he was more practical about it... literally "Be ready to die and fight for your freedom" and "Equal Rights By any means necessary".
More 'equality' and less blind peace and niceness.
bobthefunny
in other, hilarious news: another glorious fuckup by ai...
sakm
Clearly the answer is to just enforce a worldwide ban on hats! /j
historymemesandstuff
What would the pope wear?
GenXHippie
Probably still silk dresses.
tachyx
Bobbobbobobbananafanafobob
I see a red hat and I want it painted lead
PushPullMagnet
A ban on what?

laner7112000
Evenmoreuselessname
This qPCR machine seems like it needs a bit of calibration.
mikeatike
Clearly we need more cocksuckers in our lives.
defaultname2000
...fart, turd, and twat
facepalmingestpanda
I also remember Short Music for Short People.
TimbiquiDarkThirty
Rat shit
Bat shit
Twat
Sixty nine assholes tied in a knot
Hey!
Lizard shit!
FUCK!
mikeatike
*Horray
lovehandlesmessiah
I just remember the John Valby song, “Eat Bite” which I mentioned once and a lady colleague - who I thought was this innocent little waif - remembered it verbatim.
ShimmerinStrider
"Technically motherfucker is a duplication. Fuck is already on the list and the root of motherfucker is fuck, so therefore a duplication."
mikeatike
Fuck is the root of all motherfuckers.
lovehandlesmessiah
Technically fuck is the verb whereas motherfucker is a noun.
mikeatike
Fuck is every part of speech. https://www.smart-words.org/jokes/the-f-word.html
ShimmerinStrider
"Hey motherfucker, how did you get my phone number?"
BlueDsc
I'll never wrap my mind around republicans who think George would have been their best buddy.
thefar
I need a summoner to get his fucking soul back from Hell and do one last stand up on Trump.
bertchstudio
I want to hear him shred on ice and all the other children with guns in discount body armor that are somehow getting a paycheck from us to make their bedsheet wearing grandpappy proud
thefar
In Carlin's voice: That reminds me. Do you ever noticed that bullets and rockets are shaped like dicks?
GuMaiChaiFarangWoi
https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1bHJjcWs0eGQyOWlraWE1OGNreThnbWQyYThocGppdjcya3B5bzZlaiZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/3oz8xTl6sGKbuRPDDW/200w.webp
theovermynd
His direct stated viewpoints during one interview pretty well match my own. Democrats are incompetent and only kinda care about the average person, but Republicans are just plain Saturday morning cartoon villain evil.
IAmLeegion
Well, you see...republicans are stupid
JaimeLannistersRightHand
https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1dmdncjR4ZHNnYXU2d21qMTcwZDhncDhiMGJuaHpkeTg2M3RsZWtyaiZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/3oz8xTl6sGKbuRPDDW/200w.webp
enderite
DOcelot1
They fit their brain dead beliefs to fit the narrative
Obandigo
And they wear their stupid maga hats.
ImGoingToGoFallAsleepOnABench
Because he's irreverent and Republicans believe that liberal culture is the dominant force in modern culture, and thus, irreverence = disdain for liberalism, even though Carlin's viewpoints come across as being strongly opposed to conservatism in any form. Also, his belief that voting is useless, which, well, you know how Republicans think about voting. His anti-voting stance is the one thing I genuinely hold against him.
madflenser
He was always very caustic, and I got the feeling his later specials did drift towards cynicism. Still obviously ideologically left, but in modern language, a bit of a Doomer.
lizardbones
I never knew him while he was alive, but the more i learn about him the more i think he was privileged enough not to have to worry about a lot of things minorities have to. he made a lot of good points, but also a bunch of points that were just calling minorities too sensitive over "things that dont matter". even though minorites are debating those things because if they dont form a strong identity for their group, then it makes it easier for horrible people to make their lives unlivable
tentacularfleshscape
That dominant force thing crystallized something for me, which is that this meshes perfectly with the grievance politics and religious persecution complex.
Also re voting, I agree with you, but in mild defense the consequences of voting weren't quite so starkly defined and dire back before he put on the wooden onesie
MrPengy
>His anti-voting stance is the one thing I genuinely hold against him.
To be fair, when he passed, it was "corporate dick sucker D vs corporate dick sucker R," not "Lady who has good ideas but isn't perfecg vs racist Nazi pedophile"
bertchstudio
Nice lady cop who would have been eaten alive by the kind of men that rape children and racist Nazi pedophile that already knew all of them
KolliFlaur
I am not versed enough in his antivoting stance. I could Google, but it's more interesting to talk to people. I thought he generally thought voting was bullshit due to lack of actual choice. I.e. Do you vote for the fiscally conservative centrist Democrat or the fiscally conservative centrist Republican? The illusion of choice and all that. Please, lemme know :D
AlmightyElephant
This is basically it. The Dem party are owned by the hoghest bidder, just like the Reps are, but the difference is that if a politician actually HAS any principles and wants to make the world a better place, they'll join the Dems.
But I agree with OP here. George is right about the problems with voting in America, but his stance is a very privileged one. Not participating in the system doesn't immunise you from the system. Just means you decided it's not worth trying to make it less shit.
BlueDsc
He also died before the republican party started proudly saying the quiet part out loud. I'm sure his views would be a bit different on that these days.