As a locksmith… if that bottom latch is opening that easy with a shim, it’s a shit adjusted striker. There is a dead locking latch on that and it should not open with a shim. How it works on the top is correct and you can make one of these out of an old soft drink bottle.
This attack relies on being able to push the door in. Use a door jammer. If you're really paranoid and don't care about drilling holes in hotel property, you can install a battery powered remote deadbolt. Just take it down when you go to check out, and fill the holes with tooth paste or something.
From what I've seen in Norwegian hotels, there are deadbolts in the door and the outside handle can be disabled by simply locking the door from inside. The doorframe is also shaped so you can't shove anything between the door and frame. American "security" is a joke.
I have a whole set of lockpicks that I never gotten good with because a plastic shim usually does the trick in a few seconds. My neighbor locked himself out last week and rewards card solved the issue
If there's anything that the Lockpickinglawyer has taught me, it's that all locks and security devices are "hackable" and that it's only a matter of the amount of time required and the tools used. He also showed me how every lock in my house can be successfully attacked and bypassed in a few minutes or less, which is scary as hell. But you hope those few minutes are enough and that most break ins are probably thug level crimes of opportunity and not master bank vault safe breakers.
It likely is functional, it obviously wasnt locked. The other two latches aren't for keeping people out either. They're to prevent people pushing the door open when you answer it.
That door doesn't even have a deadbolt. I'm talking about the pin that prevents the latchbolt from retracting when the door is closed, preventing people from shimming it as demonstrated in the clip.
That is exactly what binds the latch. That pin is held back by a properly-fitted doorplate - the latch only moves when it's extended outward.
When the doorplate holds it into the lock, the latch should be secured, and immobile, un-shimmable.
The problem is that a lot of people don't do proper door fitment. "Just use this one, it has the biggest hole, it fits every latch" is a pretty common shortcut, but disables that security feature.
(Well, the doorhandle can move it, of course, but that's not what I mean. They can press in because they want you to be able to close the door without using the handle, but they don't HAVE to do that, and with the pin pressed into the lock, they should not.)
I just scroll through LockPickingLawyer's video list, he's past 1600 of them now, and ask people how many videos they saw that was over 10 minutes. Then I point out that he always picks them twice.
The first security door they put on the computer room didn't stop me. I could use my license to open the door faster that someone with badge access. They then added a plate on the door, over the latch to prevent that trick. (Just one of many things I did that forced the company to spend money to prevent them from being done again.)
This attack is *very* well known and it does not work against any decent door latch (includes most hotel ones). Two reasons:
1. Most door latches include a security pin/toggle pressed in by the strike plate which locks the latch tongue in the closed position. Even Home Depot-esq ones have this, and every hotel I've stayed in has it too. It is called a "deadlatch pin" and is designed specifically to stop this.
2. Commercial doors have electronic strike plates with covers which block any access.
I hear a lot of stories about women getting woken up in the middle of the night in their hotel rooms from people trying to, and almost getting in, so maybe…. But also, we just saw video of this kid succeeding. So. Use a door wedge at very least. There’s other devices that are life saving and cheap too.
That's also not a hotel door lockset, it's a very very cheap big box hardware store one that's probably only rated for internal use. Hotel ones are built a lot better, but they do still have some vulnerabilities. They can be lockpicked (and aren't usually that hard due to masterkeying), they can be fitted badly with large gap (which stops the deadlock latch working), plus of course compromised employees. I don't want to dissuade due diligence, just trying to put the risk in perspective.
If you are even remotely worried about this, take the time on your way in to check the function of the deadlatch pin. With the door held open, press and hold the pin in and then try to push the tongue in - it should be locked out. Allow the door to close and look through the gap to make sure the strike plate is depressing the pin properly. If either of these things don't work, complain to the service desk and get it rectified.
Too large a gap, and you can just reach a tool through and turn the interior bolt. Improperly tightened and you can get a tool into the mechanism and turn it that way. If the bolt is accessible, you can often use a sharp shim to work it back into the body.
Only have a comment for the last part, which is not (entirely) true. Deadbolts are generally made in a way that when fully engaged, it gets locked in place.
If you lock one while the door is open, the deadbolt extends fully, but you continue to turn the lock, which then locks it in position, stopping it from being moved by interacting with the bolt directly.
If not fully engaged then it can be worked open, but that is not deadbolts by default. They are designed with this attack in mind.
Under door length of wire to pull down the door handle since fire code requires that turning the handle disables the deadbolt. They sell a dedicated under door tool but it's kinda suspicious carrying four feet of steel rod through a hotel lobby. I just keep six feet of aluminum electric fence wire wrapped around an old gift card in my toiletries bag.
I leave mine open cause it's cheaper than aircon and the local homeless patrol our hood *real* good cause cops having to come by messes up their day. In exchange they get food, water, all the firewood they can carry, and rides when needed to wherever they need to go, plus they use the address of a vacant property as their 'residence' and one of my neighbours is their 'landlord' for job applications. Bangers stay away cause the local gang has *way* more eyes than they do.
My best friend had this approach to vehicle safety. He got tired of radio thieves smashing out his windows and having to replace them so he just left his doors unlocked all the time. Didn't matter. They still smashed out his windows and got all the nothing he had in there. Last thief stole the entire center dash bezel that holds the radio and ac controls in place before my friend just got rid of the vehicle.
Helen Mirren has a story from when she was young and living in a bad part of London, she had a bunch of clothes she wanted to get rid of, and she figured the easiest way to get rid of them was to leave them in her unlocked car. She came back the next morning to find the car completely torched.
Then please, what did he say? The more I listen to him, the more confused I am. Best I've got so far is, "you need a job towns fools. I'm gonna show you the fire fighter's swimming pool."
I’m also from Myrtle Beach and I can help by repkacing “fools” and “pools” with tools. The rest I can’t make out… I think that kid is from UCLA (Upper Conway Lower Aynor).
Yes. A terrible tragedy that occurred during pride month last year. People are so cruel. And that is exactly why comedy is so precious during these horrible times.
I always loved this episode. It defines that in Boomhauers mind, everyone talks the way he does, but his own speech is crisp, clear, and understandable, because he simply understands himself that way.
I also love the episode his mom shows up, and she talks just like him.
That reminds me of a Guardians of the Galaxy comic, where everybody was just saying their names, and Groot was speaking normal English for the reader to understand.
A security specialist had burglar-proofed a house for a reality show, and they had a professional burglar try to break in. He got a chainsaw and cut through a wall.
Walls are only suggestions. It's all part of an equation you have to balance. Is what's inside worth getting through all this security? Ironically, if you have alot of obvious security, but they don't know what's inside, they may think what's inside is worth all the security and try.
I agree, but I liked the tunneling in the first one better. It was a regular Doom-style FPS but you could rocket tunnel through the ground around obstacles.
Better locks just make the windows (or back of the house glass sliding door) more inviting to bricks for the determined. Locking stuff up just stops the opportunists who don't want a full B&E charge. This is why Master Lock still exists.
This is why bunkers aren’t going to keep out the mobs when the billionaire elites try to hide in them. We’ll figure out a way inside or force them to come outside.
Thats how they robed the place where a buddy of Mime worked they put a gaint hole in it right beside the gate and had all the time in World because the alram was only on the gate and Windows
one that it took a long time and was noisy enouth that cops would be called and had time to get there. the point of a safe wielded to the floor is not to stop anyone from breaking in its to take so long that response can come there and catch them. if you need to spend 30+ min getting a door open ods are that by the time you got it open someone shows up and catches them (cops or someone else) if it takes 5 sec no one is going to see it.
Growing up, my dad had a lock and security company. I mostly remember him always saying that locks are only there to keep honest people honest. A burglar will break your back window.
You'd need several gunshots and a sledgehammer to get through my windows. But I don't think my house is impregnable. The intention is just to maximise the time between when the alarm gets tripped and when the burglar actually gets in. By the time they get in, the police should be arriving. It's not that you can't get into my house, it's that it's not worth the effort.
Yeah, a burglar I knew some 30 years ago growing up in poverty would literally use duct tape on windows, then smash it with a hammer or his elbow. Makes no sound done right for glass breaking and the splinters stuck to the tape, so no falling sound from then. Then he just peeled it off and removed the locks by sticking his arm inside. He had tons of tricks like that, but that one stuck out for it's simplicity and effectiveness.
Good luck, I'll just build my house with reactive armor plating walls, and automate the replacement of spent panels (yeah, there's no way I could afford all that, lol)
Or drive you home from a bar, or answer a service call, or just show up in a uniform, or borrow a child and ask to use the bathroom, or simply watch you authenticating from afar. It doesn't even take that much determination.
Yeah, the last bit was what I was getting at: The combination of "houses build from plywood and a tv audience for a show that has a burglar cut through such a house wall with a chainsaw".
I think they’re referring to wood and drywall type construction common here. In Europe they build with a lot of brick and stone and concrete. Just Americans and our wooden structures. Other places that also build with wood (for example Japan, Scandinavian countries) don’t ever get brought up though when they’re dismissing American timber constructed homes.
That and the US being a country with a TV audience that is susceptible to a show where a burglar cuts through a house wall with a chainsaw. I mean, every country has it's share of fools that are easily entertainted but...you know...*gestures broadly at the US*
That is definitely not true. Basically any of the Scandinavian countries, it's common, and many places where earthquakes are an issue. New Zealand, Japan.
This. I live in Germany now, where a lot of the buildings ARE brick/stone, or very heavy timber with plastered stone inside.
It threw me off loads when I visited Norway: the houses I saw throughout the country were, likely because of similar needs, nearly identical to New England architecture. All thin timber with sharp slanted roofs, brightly painted etc. I somehow assumed all of Europe built like Germany, but it doesn't.
That's not true at all. Australia, Canada, Japan, a good chunk of Northern Europe, and I think most of South and Central America all build out of wood.
I recently finished a job at a hospital where after the thing had flooded they found out that none of the pharmacy walls had installed safety barriers, somebody could have literally just walked through the drywall in between the studs. We're talking enough drugs for a major hospital here cuz this was.
During a security audit I bypassed the secure server room door by taking a step ladder from the janitor closet 5 feet away and going over the wall that waswide open above the drop ceiling...
Same customer had 'key code access only" for their floor, but I was able.to.walk right up the stairs to the roof, access the elevator equipment room which was unlocked,.use the laptop that was unsecured and plugged right into the controller and override the lockout. Also plugged a sniffer directly into a hub in an unlocked wiring closet that was in a publicly accessible hallway and captured the clear text passwords of dozens of people logging in to tn3270 mainframe terminal sessions
And... This customer was a bank, I was sniffing live ATM transactions in plain text and had I been malicious had all the credentials I would have needed to steal millions...
I had to supervise physical pen tests and it was really fun to watch those guys work. From going over walls and guessing codes (the street number? Really?!), to cracking the safe in the count room. A lot of tactics are incredibly simple because a lot of security is designed by idiots and grifters to look good more than actually BE good.
a lot of times the people that are 'close' to the environment don't notice things that are really obvious problems; really easy to exploit issues are overlooked because the people that work there are mostly focused on their day to day routine and those glaring problems just become background noise.
Ah, lockpickers and pen-testers, making people understand that most locks/security is juuust enough for people to try somewhere easier, and idiots to fail completely, but almost never enough to keep out someone determined. Cheer up though. Someone with these skills is unlikely to want anything YOUR broke ass has!
Nearly all crimes are crimes of passion or opportunity. Sure locks can be picked but it's enough to deter the opportunistic thief. If they're passionate about it (specifically targeting you) they'll find a way regardless of your security really.. so yes I still feel relatively safe in a hotel which is all you can get no matter where you are.
Someone told me you should lock your screen door. If they hit that latch and it’s locked, they’ll lose interest immediately. No opportunist is trying to get past TWO locked doors. And if they’re that determined to rob *you*, at least they’ll make more noise before getting all the way in.
worked as an apprentice to a certified master locksmith (one of the most experienced in the US) who told me that a lock is only there to keep honest people honest.
My shop teacher always said that. He also showed me how to not only copy CDs, but scan and print the label too. He gave zero fucks about intellectual property beyond what was required. Part of me thinks he may have been bitter because of the AutoCAD authorization setup the school had.
All the locks and security in the world doesn't help when I come home to find my wife and kids all went on an errand (or separate errands) and left the door wide open. Once they left the screen door propped open.
I guess Battle Cat might keep them out, but she's pretty lazy.
I had a minivan/camper that was quite hard to break into. Even if you managed to break the hardened windows you could not open the doors from inside. So the only time it happened they only took a few things that were within reach. Now I have one that is so easy to unlock is laughable. I screwed a real metal safe through the floor and walls so I could place valuables. So now they'll just steal the car. Which is also laughably easy to start apparently.
I learned a long time ago the best security from getting your stuff stolen is don't own anything other people would want. Or rather was taught by a bunch of thieves that really liked my car and it's stereo. And the not as good replacement stereos that followed. And the stereo after that. Always got the car back though which was nice of them. Can't say the same for the motorcycle.
I keep a lock pick set outside my door just in case I forget my keys. My wife was shocked until I explained, anyone who wants to break in with the skill to pick a lock probably brought their own kit. Otherwise a rock will get you through the window if you're really determined
Back in the good old days they would do a thousand dollars in window damage to steal a three hundred dollar radio that they would sell for twenty bucks.
And on the other end of things, you don't want your house SO SECURE that the police/firemen can't get in if there's an emergency. I would say secure the hell out of the front door, make back/side doors mostly secure
Being professional. Someone with that skillset is most likely either working illicitly for higher paydays or legally as a locksmith or pen-tester.
To put it another way. Someone who works in a machine shop or as a mechanic will have the tools and knowledge to easily remove the catalytic converter from your car. But they aren't the prime suspect when cats get nicked, are they?
My expensive equipment is all out in my carport without a lock in sight, but all of my books that I don't have room for in my house are all locked in my storage shed in the back yard. By all means, take the expensive shit if ya gotta, but a lot of my books are irreplaceable and absolutely worthless.
Almost every type of security is primarily to slow people down or make it annoying or expensive to gain access, or increase the risk of getting caught.
Mentally I usually point out that hotels are usually upkept by people who tend to not go the extra mile because that costs the company money. Half of these locks are probably using the shortest most basic screws, and thus a good lock won't matter much if someone just kicks the thing down.
I had someone mock my choice of door lock as "easy to break in". I had to laugh at them. If anyone is getting into my house, it's through one of the four tall, wide, 1880s glass windows that surround the door. It's like hooking a $200 lock to a chain link fence.
Well not the rich rich. Those live on islands, yachts, isolated and guarded communities. Nah, they're just gonna steal from the working rich. Surgeons, programmers, small business owners, farmers.
Like how ancient Egyptians would seal tombs and corridors with slabs of granite, only for the robbers to simply burrow around them through the softer sand/limestone around them.
Pegaxs
As a locksmith… if that bottom latch is opening that easy with a shim, it’s a shit adjusted striker. There is a dead locking latch on that and it should not open with a shim. How it works on the top is correct and you can make one of these out of an old soft drink bottle.
notifybay151
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BeckyLookAtHerButt
Certainly not at that con.
Level21Magikarp
It doesn't actually check to see if a firefighter is wielding the tool like a paladin only magic item.
CyberHexx
This attack relies on being able to push the door in. Use a door jammer. If you're really paranoid and don't care about drilling holes in hotel property, you can install a battery powered remote deadbolt. Just take it down when you go to check out, and fill the holes with tooth paste or something.
originalhuman
What is he saying?
jaggcomputing5
Words.
PedanticAsshat
I've listened to it five times and I can't understand what the fuck he says
TacosAreDelicious
Job town tools
Firefighter swipe tool
Kid mumbles far too much
ShimmerinStrider
And this is why you can carry a device to disable the door completely, from soft intrusions like these.
It won't stop someone kicking the door in.
SixSixxtySix
Hotel room lock assemblies all have deadbolts these days. Wouldn't work at all.
sentientbunnysuit1
moving the door handle has to disable the deadbolt per fire code.
pjm82
If your house has windows, it can be broken into with a rock. Yes, yes, bullet proof aside
b0stark
From what I've seen in Norwegian hotels, there are deadbolts in the door and the outside handle can be disabled by simply locking the door from inside. The doorframe is also shaped so you can't shove anything between the door and frame. American "security" is a joke.
fluxfusion3
Whenever I go to a convention center, I always carry a gun. I'm not stupid. ( do I really need a/s ? )
Bonnedad
The lock is improperly installed the friction blade behind the latch when depressed properly won’t allow the latch to be pushed in
CaptRandom1290
I have a whole set of lockpicks that I never gotten good with because a plastic shim usually does the trick in a few seconds. My neighbor locked himself out last week and rewards card solved the issue
Smidge204
A functional security pin on the latchbolt should prevent this specific attack...
mjperk
If there's anything that the Lockpickinglawyer has taught me, it's that all locks and security devices are "hackable" and that it's only a matter of the amount of time required and the tools used. He also showed me how every lock in my house can be successfully attacked and bypassed in a few minutes or less, which is scary as hell. But you hope those few minutes are enough and that most break ins are probably thug level crimes of opportunity and not master bank vault safe breakers.
NomadUniverse
It likely is functional, it obviously wasnt locked. The other two latches aren't for keeping people out either. They're to prevent people pushing the door open when you answer it.
Smidge204
It doesn't matter if the door is locked or not. The pin prevents the bolt from being pushed back in to the door, locked or not.
sentientbunnysuit1
the door handle has to disable the deadbolt per fire code
NomadUniverse
Only in some buildings. In apartments you can still have a deadlatch, it just has to have a handle on the inside.
Smidge204
That door doesn't even have a deadbolt. I'm talking about the pin that prevents the latchbolt from retracting when the door is closed, preventing people from shimming it as demonstrated in the clip.
sentientbunnysuit1
you are correct. In that case have to use a traveller's pick to slide the pin back into the lock first.
BishlamekGurpgork
That is exactly what binds the latch. That pin is held back by a properly-fitted doorplate - the latch only moves when it's extended outward.
When the doorplate holds it into the lock, the latch should be secured, and immobile, un-shimmable.
The problem is that a lot of people don't do proper door fitment. "Just use this one, it has the biggest hole, it fits every latch" is a pretty common shortcut, but disables that security feature.
BishlamekGurpgork
(Well, the doorhandle can move it, of course, but that's not what I mean. They can press in because they want you to be able to close the door without using the handle, but they don't HAVE to do that, and with the pin pressed into the lock, they should not.)
Smidge204
What would that accomplish? That pin being pushed in is how it works; pushing it in further won't do anything.
BishlamekGurpgork
Don't know why you got downvoted - you're right. Being held into the lock by the doorplate is what locks the latch. I'll get you back to baseline.
madmax17
These shouldn't be that much space in between, that's the problem with this door.
Pulsifer
I just scroll through LockPickingLawyer's video list, he's past 1600 of them now, and ask people how many videos they saw that was over 10 minutes. Then I point out that he always picks them twice.
freshthrowaway1138
If this makes you nervous, I recommend following this guy who does all sorts of pen-testing and tells how to secure against those attacks.
https://www.youtube.com/@DeviantOllam
cosonfused
"Thus is the lockpicking school student and today..."
jimhotep
Always, ALWAYS use the deadbolt.
TheMindEntropic
I use heaps of clutter. If anyone breaks in, they're probably correctly assuming I have nothing worth stealing, and that it's too noisy to find out.
iRecommendBooks
If I ever have something of great value that I need to protect, I'm going to put a few hundred pounds of shit on it.
jimhotep
Nice! The Stanislavski Method. Become the clutter, confuse your enemies.
TheMindEntropic
Lahey: I *AM* the clutter!
SecurityBadger
The first security door they put on the computer room didn't stop me. I could use my license to open the door faster that someone with badge access. They then added a plate on the door, over the latch to prevent that trick. (Just one of many things I did that forced the company to spend money to prevent them from being done again.)
Agouti
This attack is *very* well known and it does not work against any decent door latch (includes most hotel ones). Two reasons:
1. Most door latches include a security pin/toggle pressed in by the strike plate which locks the latch tongue in the closed position. Even Home Depot-esq ones have this, and every hotel I've stayed in has it too. It is called a "deadlatch pin" and is designed specifically to stop this.
2. Commercial doors have electronic strike plates with covers which block any access.
PineappleLoopsBroether
I hear a lot of stories about women getting woken up in the middle of the night in their hotel rooms from people trying to, and almost getting in, so maybe…. But also, we just saw video of this kid succeeding. So. Use a door wedge at very least. There’s other devices that are life saving and cheap too.
Agouti
That's also not a hotel door lockset, it's a very very cheap big box hardware store one that's probably only rated for internal use. Hotel ones are built a lot better, but they do still have some vulnerabilities. They can be lockpicked (and aren't usually that hard due to masterkeying), they can be fitted badly with large gap (which stops the deadlock latch working), plus of course compromised employees. I don't want to dissuade due diligence, just trying to put the risk in perspective.
Agouti
If you are even remotely worried about this, take the time on your way in to check the function of the deadlatch pin. With the door held open, press and hold the pin in and then try to push the tongue in - it should be locked out. Allow the door to close and look through the gap to make sure the strike plate is depressing the pin properly. If either of these things don't work, complain to the service desk and get it rectified.
RetrogradeLlama
There’s usually a deadbolt these days, which at least requires some lock picking to get to stage 1
ropetopus
You would think that, but a lot of deadbolts are incorrectly installed in ways that make them surprisingly easy to bypass.
Cgt16
In what way? Other than kicking /prying I haven't heard of another way
ropetopus
Too large a gap, and you can just reach a tool through and turn the interior bolt. Improperly tightened and you can get a tool into the mechanism and turn it that way. If the bolt is accessible, you can often use a sharp shim to work it back into the body.
Bukoden
Only have a comment for the last part, which is not (entirely) true. Deadbolts are generally made in a way that when fully engaged, it gets locked in place.
If you lock one while the door is open, the deadbolt extends fully, but you continue to turn the lock, which then locks it in position, stopping it from being moved by interacting with the bolt directly.
If not fully engaged then it can be worked open, but that is not deadbolts by default. They are designed with this attack in mind.
sentientbunnysuit1
Under door length of wire to pull down the door handle since fire code requires that turning the handle disables the deadbolt. They sell a dedicated under door tool but it's kinda suspicious carrying four feet of steel rod through a hotel lobby. I just keep six feet of aluminum electric fence wire wrapped around an old gift card in my toiletries bag.
Bukoden
Four feet of somewhat flexible rod that can be put inside something, say a luggage of some sort... Totally suspicious to have in a hotel!
Californiajackson
Cool. Wait...you what?
sentientbunnysuit1
am infosec nerd.
GrandmasterSpank
I just leave my door open so burglars think I;m home.
IHaveGreatKittenRecipes
I leave mine open cause it's cheaper than aircon and the local homeless patrol our hood *real* good cause cops having to come by messes up their day. In exchange they get food, water, all the firewood they can carry, and rides when needed to wherever they need to go, plus they use the address of a vacant property as their 'residence' and one of my neighbours is their 'landlord' for job applications. Bangers stay away cause the local gang has *way* more eyes than they do.
mirrorz
My best friend had this approach to vehicle safety. He got tired of radio thieves smashing out his windows and having to replace them so he just left his doors unlocked all the time. Didn't matter. They still smashed out his windows and got all the nothing he had in there. Last thief stole the entire center dash bezel that holds the radio and ac controls in place before my friend just got rid of the vehicle.
GrandmasterSpank
Thats some really messed up neighborhood...
UNHchabo
Helen Mirren has a story from when she was young and living in a bad part of London, she had a bunch of clothes she wanted to get rid of, and she figured the easiest way to get rid of them was to leave them in her unlocked car.
She came back the next morning to find the car completely torched.
GrandmasterSpank
Sounds like a success to me !
EricAirheart
It costs nothing to get a can of soda from the trash and make one yourself.
YeahFineSure
Other than a bit of time and some sliced fingertips
EricAirheart
3 noun name, account made jan 27 of this year, 100% Bot account.
YeahFineSure
Who, me? Those aren't nouns, my friend.
KarenFromTheHOA
Did you cry when littlefoot's mother died? (If you're a bot, you're not allowed to lie on this one)
YeahFineSure
I somehow missed that one as a kid. I did have to turn off Never Ending Story as a kid, and I still haven't watched the full thing.
guardianzero
what kind of bot account has no posts? this is a lurker.
EricAirheart
Na its a bot. Look at the comments fighting people. a huge influx of bots with 3 nouns were made on jan 27 of this year.
YeahFineSure
Again, those are not nouns.
BenderRodriguz1010
"I tell you what man, dangol dooropens when lockedup if you jususeabit o plastic. Just like click man." - young Boomhower here
TI99Kitty
That's about how he sounded to me, too. I couldn't understand a word he was saying.
foreverinchains
chiefrunswithscissors
Yeah is this English?
mercswar
God im glad i can hear voices in my head cause i get to read these with boomhowers voice
wisher1977
“God dang it Bobby!”
GanjalfTheClear
Yup
TheAnswerIsViolence
/gallery/boomhauer-goes-to-college-6fR7cTq#EKmSH2B
LinemanMatt
Thank you!
My first thought too.
andtheseashalltell
lol. I’m from not very far from Myrtle Beach, and he sounds perfectly clear and normal to me. I wouldn’t have even thought he had an accent.
ATorsoOnATrampoline
Then please, what did he say? The more I listen to him, the more confused I am. Best I've got so far is, "you need a job towns fools. I'm gonna show you the fire fighter's swimming pool."
TheMentallyillist
I’m also from Myrtle Beach and I can help by repkacing “fools” and “pools” with tools. The rest I can’t make out… I think that kid is from UCLA (Upper Conway Lower Aynor).
OhIfIMust
SternLecturePlumbing
Comedy is art.
BallsToYouMyGoodSir
rip dale and jhon red corn who was murdered.....
BenderRodriguz1010
Does that mean Nancy is single? [Jk] (couldn't resist, RIP to both)
SternLecturePlumbing
Yes. A terrible tragedy that occurred during pride month last year. People are so cruel. And that is exactly why comedy is so precious during these horrible times.
TrumpRapesAndEatsChildren0002
Are they just talking gibberish?
Zalm
I always loved this episode. It defines that in Boomhauers mind, everyone talks the way he does, but his own speech is crisp, clear, and understandable, because he simply understands himself that way.
I also love the episode his mom shows up, and she talks just like him.
OhIfIMust
Dang ol' pretty, pretty pizza...
TI99Kitty
That reminds me of a Guardians of the Galaxy comic, where everybody was just saying their names, and Groot was speaking normal English for the reader to understand.
LogicDude
I just spot-weld the door locks in the closed position before I go to sleep.
maincarrot
*jiggles lock*
"It's locked."
*Sticks on the c4 and blows up your front door*
"We're in."
ButtscratchMcPherson
But that would set off the Claymore..!
Fairemont
Just rips your house off the foundation. "We'll open it when we get back."
maincarrot
Lol. Tap dances down the street with your house.
"Ah-ha! Ha-ha! Toodle-oo! Ah-haaaa!"
bobbersonbob
nothing a thief disguised as a hotel employee pushing a housekeeping cart stacked with a generator, compressor, and plasma cutter can't handle.
UncleRat
A security specialist had burglar-proofed a house for a reality show, and they had a professional burglar try to break in. He got a chainsaw and cut through a wall.
CyberHexx
Walls are only suggestions. It's all part of an equation you have to balance. Is what's inside worth getting through all this security? Ironically, if you have alot of obvious security, but they don't know what's inside, they may think what's inside is worth all the security and try.
Rivalyn
The biggest, most unfixable security vulnerability is that it physically exists.
VodkaReindeer
Is the second biggest one that it's connected to the internet?
Rivalyn
That one is relatively easy to fix most of the time, but runs up hard against the physically exists problem
Zi0Matrix
It's this kind of lateral thinking that made Red Faction: Guerrilla such a fun game.
SOLARvsFACISM
I agree, but I liked the tunneling in the first one better. It was a regular Doom-style FPS but you could rocket tunnel through the ground around obstacles.
tempUser7824
As long as most houses have windows, a rock is a universal key
RainierAlt
Better locks just make the windows (or back of the house glass sliding door) more inviting to bricks for the determined. Locking stuff up just stops the opportunists who don't want a full B&E charge. This is why Master Lock still exists.
TsubakiTragic
Most folks become fixated when presented with a problem on "how to solve the problem". The "avoid the problem" option rarely gets a look in.
Magavyn
i think i remember a similar show. 'To catch a theif' if i recall right.
killergrooves85
This is why bunkers aren’t going to keep out the mobs when the billionaire elites try to hide in them. We’ll figure out a way inside or force them to come outside.
TheMindEntropic
A real professional burglar would have appeared as a family member.
TripleDane
Was it an american or european house ?
Craftsman
Yes.
Grinch01
Thats how they robed the place where a buddy of Mime worked they put a gaint hole in it right beside the gate and had all the time in World because the alram was only on the gate and Windows
ZackWester
I can only hope two things happen.
ZackWester
one that it took a long time and was noisy enouth that cops would be called and had time to get there. the point of a safe wielded to the floor is not to stop anyone from breaking in its to take so long that response can come there and catch them. if you need to spend 30+ min getting a door open ods are that by the time you got it open someone shows up and catches them (cops or someone else) if it takes 5 sec no one is going to see it.
livingonagiantfireball
Angle grinder work fast too
DianNaoChong
Saw another where they did all this and then the professional walked in because the place wasn't locked and the alarm not set.
rowzdowr
Growing up, my dad had a lock and security company. I mostly remember him always saying that locks are only there to keep honest people honest. A burglar will break your back window.
Slewth87
You'd need several gunshots and a sledgehammer to get through my windows. But I don't think my house is impregnable. The intention is just to maximise the time between when the alarm gets tripped and when the burglar actually gets in. By the time they get in, the police should be arriving. It's not that you can't get into my house, it's that it's not worth the effort.
rayleon0702
Yeah, a burglar I knew some 30 years ago growing up in poverty would literally use duct tape on windows, then smash it with a hammer or his elbow. Makes no sound done right for glass breaking and the splinters stuck to the tape, so no falling sound from then. Then he just peeled it off and removed the locks by sticking his arm inside. He had tons of tricks like that, but that one stuck out for it's simplicity and effectiveness.
ShimmerinStrider
Nothing can stop a determined attacker. They'll just drive a tank through your house.
mindstorm8191
Good luck, I'll just build my house with reactive armor plating walls, and automate the replacement of spent panels
(yeah, there's no way I could afford all that, lol)
jankyupeblik
Or drive you home from a bar, or answer a service call, or just show up in a uniform, or borrow a child and ask to use the bathroom, or simply watch you authenticating from afar. It doesn't even take that much determination.
FreePalestineAndTheWorldFromIsrael
I would think a tank costs more than my collective bellongings in the house
TI99Kitty
Which would get destroyed by a tank rolling over them.
RooGryphon
jokes on them... time to pop em open
DerpMeister
Tell me a TV show took place in the US without telling me that it did.
ObiWanKenobitch
The US isn’t the only place homes are built from wood… The chainsaw through a wall is very on brand for the US though.
DerpMeister
Yeah, the last bit was what I was getting at: The combination of "houses build from plywood and a tv audience for a show that has a burglar cut through such a house wall with a chainsaw".
marsilies
Well, I mean, that was the basic strategy of the Louvre thieves as well. So not exclusive to the US. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Louvre_heist
2074red2074
Do they ban chainsaws in other countries too?
ObiWanKenobitch
I think they’re referring to wood and drywall type construction common here. In Europe they build with a lot of brick and stone and concrete. Just Americans and our wooden structures. Other places that also build with wood (for example Japan, Scandinavian countries) don’t ever get brought up though when they’re dismissing American timber constructed homes.
DerpMeister
That and the US being a country with a TV audience that is susceptible to a show where a burglar cuts through a house wall with a chainsaw. I mean, every country has it's share of fools that are easily entertainted but...you know...*gestures broadly at the US*
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BishlamekGurpgork
That is definitely not true. Basically any of the Scandinavian countries, it's common, and many places where earthquakes are an issue. New Zealand, Japan.
Feralkyn
This. I live in Germany now, where a lot of the buildings ARE brick/stone, or very heavy timber with plastered stone inside.
It threw me off loads when I visited Norway: the houses I saw throughout the country were, likely because of similar needs, nearly identical to New England architecture. All thin timber with sharp slanted roofs, brightly painted etc. I somehow assumed all of Europe built like Germany, but it doesn't.
2074red2074
That's not true at all. Australia, Canada, Japan, a good chunk of Northern Europe, and I think most of South and Central America all build out of wood.
thedewser
Same situation for a high security door on a server room but the walls are just basic drywall and framing.
sjester42
I recently finished a job at a hospital where after the thing had flooded they found out that none of the pharmacy walls had installed safety barriers, somebody could have literally just walked through the drywall in between the studs. We're talking enough drugs for a major hospital here cuz this was.
samanthadlcruz
During a security audit I bypassed the secure server room door by taking a step ladder from the janitor closet 5 feet away and going over the wall that waswide open above the drop ceiling...
samanthadlcruz
Same customer had 'key code access only" for their floor, but I was able.to.walk right up the stairs to the roof, access the elevator equipment room which was unlocked,.use the laptop that was unsecured and plugged right into the controller and override the lockout. Also plugged a sniffer directly into a hub in an unlocked wiring closet that was in a publicly accessible hallway and captured the clear text passwords of dozens of people logging in to tn3270 mainframe terminal sessions
samanthadlcruz
And... This customer was a bank, I was sniffing live ATM transactions in plain text and had I been malicious had all the credentials I would have needed to steal millions...
KellyCrazyCatLadyinTraining
Samantha… I am not even going to pretend I understand half that techno babble, but I have to ask: “Sniffing?” Like, what? Lol. XD
ropetopus
I had to supervise physical pen tests and it was really fun to watch those guys work. From going over walls and guessing codes (the street number? Really?!), to cracking the safe in the count room. A lot of tactics are incredibly simple because a lot of security is designed by idiots and grifters to look good more than actually BE good.
swofromtherock
Most public combination padlocks are the street number of the place. Or the birth year of whoever put them there.
TI99Kitty
A Walmart I worked at, the combination for the lock on the bikes on the front patio was the store number.
Which is printed on every receipt.
samanthadlcruz
a lot of times the people that are 'close' to the environment don't notice things that are really obvious problems; really easy to exploit issues are overlooked because the people that work there are mostly focused on their day to day routine and those glaring problems just become background noise.
HonHomes
Ah, lockpickers and pen-testers, making people understand that most locks/security is juuust enough for people to try somewhere easier, and idiots to fail completely, but almost never enough to keep out someone determined.
Cheer up though. Someone with these skills is unlikely to want anything YOUR broke ass has!
eventide215
Nearly all crimes are crimes of passion or opportunity. Sure locks can be picked but it's enough to deter the opportunistic thief. If they're passionate about it (specifically targeting you) they'll find a way regardless of your security really.. so yes I still feel relatively safe in a hotel which is all you can get no matter where you are.
MrsHowVeryDareYou
Someone told me you should lock your screen door. If they hit that latch and it’s locked, they’ll lose interest immediately. No opportunist is trying to get past TWO locked doors. And if they’re that determined to rob *you*, at least they’ll make more noise before getting all the way in.
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Richek
worked as an apprentice to a certified master locksmith (one of the most experienced in the US) who told me that a lock is only there to keep honest people honest.
SteveTheEgg
My shop teacher always said that. He also showed me how to not only copy CDs, but scan and print the label too. He gave zero fucks about intellectual property beyond what was required. Part of me thinks he may have been bitter because of the AutoCAD authorization setup the school had.
PimpinKen
"This is the lock picking lawyer, and as always, have a nice day"
VTiR
He looks younger than he sounds. Surprised he's married at that age, frankly.
SacrificialClam
Um have you SEEN this booty??
ArchSchnitz
All the locks and security in the world doesn't help when I come home to find my wife and kids all went on an errand (or separate errands) and left the door wide open. Once they left the screen door propped open.
I guess Battle Cat might keep them out, but she's pretty lazy.
machine9
It's true, most actual thieves aren't really the type to spend a bunch of time developing lock picking and bypass skills beyond maybe basic raking
Pokegeologist
My FIL always said never keep anything out in the open worth more than $200 because that's the cost of a smashed window. A rock is free.
jesuisgur
I had a minivan/camper that was quite hard to break into. Even if you managed to break the hardened windows you could not open the doors from inside. So the only time it happened they only took a few things that were within reach. Now I have one that is so easy to unlock is laughable. I screwed a real metal safe through the floor and walls so I could place valuables. So now they'll just steal the car. Which is also laughably easy to start apparently.
sparmek
I learned a long time ago the best security from getting your stuff stolen is don't own anything other people would want. Or rather was taught by a bunch of thieves that really liked my car and it's stereo. And the not as good replacement stereos that followed. And the stereo after that. Always got the car back though which was nice of them. Can't say the same for the motorcycle.
MattoJanai
I keep a lock pick set outside my door just in case I forget my keys. My wife was shocked until I explained, anyone who wants to break in with the skill to pick a lock probably brought their own kit. Otherwise a rock will get you through the window if you're really determined
davebarton315101
Back in the good old days they would do a thousand dollars in window damage to steal a three hundred dollar radio that they would sell for twenty bucks.
bitemark
And on the other end of things, you don't want your house SO SECURE that the police/firemen can't get in if there's an emergency. I would say secure the hell out of the front door, make back/side doors mostly secure
coughingintensifies
In dutch we have a saying, partly related to your comment: “Gelegenheid maakt de dief”, which translates to: “Opportunity makes the thief”.
Resistance1000
How would they know that until they break in?
HonHomes
Being professional. Someone with that skillset is most likely either working illicitly for higher paydays or legally as a locksmith or pen-tester.
To put it another way. Someone who works in a machine shop or as a mechanic will have the tools and knowledge to easily remove the catalytic converter from your car. But they aren't the prime suspect when cats get nicked, are they?
ropetopus
The step called “casing” tells a thief a lot about what to expect in a target location.
TheDoctorCrankenstein
This little thing called "common sense"
Draygen
My expensive equipment is all out in my carport without a lock in sight, but all of my books that I don't have room for in my house are all locked in my storage shed in the back yard. By all means, take the expensive shit if ya gotta, but a lot of my books are irreplaceable and absolutely worthless.
NotSinceTheAccidend
Exactly
ropetopus
Almost every type of security is primarily to slow people down or make it annoying or expensive to gain access, or increase the risk of getting caught.
tfoot77
To quote one of my professors: Security is an illusion, there's only deterrence and insurance.
LupusLilium
Mentally I usually point out that hotels are usually upkept by people who tend to not go the extra mile because that costs the company money. Half of these locks are probably using the shortest most basic screws, and thus a good lock won't matter much if someone just kicks the thing down.
YouRadicalizedMe
I got some pizza if u guys want to come over???
darthnerdus6236
Locks keep honest people honest.
bashbrisecul
Exactly!
livingonagiantfireball
Why was there no deadbolt in the lock on the door?
RandomUser673
Because he couldn’t unlock a deadbolt with his plastic piece
TheMindEntropic
I just keep a bunch of fucking debris/clutter in front of my doors. If anyone breaks in, they're going to stumble and make ungodly amounts of noise.
AeonexAshaxei
Those poor firefighters that will need entry into your house.
OnlyOneArman
I had someone mock my choice of door lock as "easy to break in". I had to laugh at them. If anyone is getting into my house, it's through one of the four tall, wide, 1880s glass windows that surround the door. It's like hooking a $200 lock to a chain link fence.
n0gal
Legos my man. Home Alone that shit.
TheMindEntropic
It's mostly paper bags from woolies/coles. Loud, big, *USUALLY EMPTY.* Completely in the way. Don't try to leap over it; you will not succeed.
Thorketil
Ninetoesjoe
Lmao 😂
BeckyLookAtHerButt
So they're on their way to eat the rich?
Sleepsintrees
With my permission.
imnotinthewitnessprotectionprogram
BenderRodriguz1010
HillOfBeans
pixelsnader
Well not the rich rich. Those live on islands, yachts, isolated and guarded communities. Nah, they're just gonna steal from the working rich. Surgeons, programmers, small business owners, farmers.
DMSledge
Funny thing about living on an island or a yacht is that it makes you more vulnerable, not less.
pixelsnader
I don't think so? Or maybe we're talking about different aspects?
IMakeLotsOfReferencesAndRemakes
Itadakimasu bitch
TheDoctorCrankenstein
Song is such a banger.
TI99Kitty
Fuck the guy who ruined Twitter.
nclu
Every once in awhile I rewatch the presentation by the physical pen tester about doors https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YYvBLAF4T8&pp=ygUUcGh5c2ljYWwgdGVzdGVyIGRvb3I%3D
Scahrossar
I just *knew* that was Deviant before clicking the link. All his talks are well worth watching. V good and v entertaining.
OhIfIMust
Like how ancient Egyptians would seal tombs and corridors with slabs of granite, only for the robbers to simply burrow around them through the softer sand/limestone around them.