183 pts ยท June 13, 2023
Why in the world was this downvoted? It's both funny and on topic. Is there something I'm not seeing?
I don't even know 'er!
Pivot!
Oh Lorraine by The Temperance Movement
I swear, he's in the comments of half the posts on here, trying to pick a fight with everyone. I worry it's because the shag doesn't love him back.
You attacked me when I said not enough is being done, and that I'm tired of people being inert or passive when i try talking about it and organizing a protest. Which is it, then?
Ok, Mr. Ben Shapiro of this comment section.
Ha, you might be right. Glossed over some stuff and asked a friend from Austria, might actually be a nice example. Stands to reason I might be wrong about some other stuff too, but I still find it hard to believe enough is being done.
You absolutely are a twat. How very reddit troll of you to dig through my profile to discredit me via personal insults. You're right about one thing, I am living in a shitty place, it's called Croatia. Wonderful for a vacation, but with a habit to pick up all the worst ideas of the US. I have, however, travelled to most European countries, and I can tell you that the brightest examples generally really are the Scandinavian ones. Big props to Czechia for how much they grew since post USSR.
I'm from Croatia, so kind of Balkans/Mediterranean, and things here are less than stellar too. We have citizens opposing the recycling push, and while there's some more interest in solar, the bureaucracy seems to be terrible. For example, my mom has been waiting for over 6 months now for an inspector from the electric company to show up and give the green light to start using the solar panels she had installed. What's true is that Europe is definitely one of the brighter examples. Not as dim?
As a European, they absolutely are not. They project that they are doing something with belated symbolic gestures, at best. Things have never been worse, and even talking about it gets you ridiculed or told "why bother, we can't do anything". I do absolutely agree with you - more people need to do something. I'm just tired by all the inertia and passive attitudes.
But by then it would already be too late. It already might be. And I'm finding it hard to believe people will ever be ready to stand up and fight. I tried getting people together to protest this, and ptice gouging in my country. Even my closest friends turned out to be of the opinion "we can't make a change, there's just a few of us at most, it's a waste of time", or "just focus on your own issues, it's not gonna change". I've lost faith, I've lost hope in this getting better. Fuck inertia.
I do, however, agree that the message format here leaves much to be desired. I'm a reddit refugee and I miss being able to write small essays.
Again you are assuming things about me, and patronizing. I've seen positive things come from gaming, from my own development as a child to wonderful experiences and friendships forged online through streaming and being a guild leader. Travelled to both ends of Europe to meet online friends. Some of my happiest memories are gaming related. I run a wonderful little discord gaming server. Yet gaming culture at large is still in great need of fixing. Arguing semantics about it is akin to #NotAllMen.
And I never said everyone that plays games is problematic, but what is normalised in the culture is. I mean I don't go around spouting bigoted nonsense and i genuinely love games. Neither does the guy down in the comments that games with his kids. My main point was and remains that a hobby that should be a learning opportunity for empathy and a broader view of the world instead often breeds bigots and fools.
4 out of those 6 have at some point received death threats from angry gamers. None of the games they worked on were multiplayer games. The last one was a train simulator, for crying out loud. They all say that they love making games, but they can't stand the the majority of what gaming communities tend to be. It's too commonplace to be just "2 out of 30 people in a discord server". Just because you're not seeing it, it doesn't mean that the problem isn't there. Don't downplay it.
I feel as if you might be playing devil's advocate here, or making assumptions, focusing on the 90's and 00's and how things are not the same. They're both the same, better, and worse at the same time. That it stopped being so much of an exclusive boys' club is one improvement that comes to mind. Yet, look at the kind of stuff that gets normalized on YouTube, Twitch, etc. I used to stream as a full time job until 2020. I know 6 people that work at different gaming companies around the world.1/2
Trust me, I know, and perhaps I should have been slightly more specific by writing "mainstream gaming culture". I remember similar shit back in the 90's and 00's as well, in physical gaming magazines I used to buy when I was younger. It's not all terrible, never was, but the vast majority of it seems to be.
I've been gaming my whole life, since the mid 90's, but the older I get, the more I despise gaming culture. I will never understand how a hobby that enables you to have so many different experiences, that presents so many amazing stories and ethical situations, that can teach you so much if you just read and listen- somehow generates a community largely made of people that normalise being so selfish, shallow, cruel, and downright stupid.
Why in the world was this downvoted? It's both funny and on topic. Is there something I'm not seeing?
I don't even know 'er!
Pivot!
Oh Lorraine by The Temperance Movement
I swear, he's in the comments of half the posts on here, trying to pick a fight with everyone. I worry it's because the shag doesn't love him back.
You attacked me when I said not enough is being done, and that I'm tired of people being inert or passive when i try talking about it and organizing a protest. Which is it, then?
Ok, Mr. Ben Shapiro of this comment section.
Ha, you might be right. Glossed over some stuff and asked a friend from Austria, might actually be a nice example. Stands to reason I might be wrong about some other stuff too, but I still find it hard to believe enough is being done.
You absolutely are a twat. How very reddit troll of you to dig through my profile to discredit me via personal insults. You're right about one thing, I am living in a shitty place, it's called Croatia. Wonderful for a vacation, but with a habit to pick up all the worst ideas of the US. I have, however, travelled to most European countries, and I can tell you that the brightest examples generally really are the Scandinavian ones. Big props to Czechia for how much they grew since post USSR.
I'm from Croatia, so kind of Balkans/Mediterranean, and things here are less than stellar too. We have citizens opposing the recycling push, and while there's some more interest in solar, the bureaucracy seems to be terrible. For example, my mom has been waiting for over 6 months now for an inspector from the electric company to show up and give the green light to start using the solar panels she had installed. What's true is that Europe is definitely one of the brighter examples. Not as dim?
As a European, they absolutely are not. They project that they are doing something with belated symbolic gestures, at best. Things have never been worse, and even talking about it gets you ridiculed or told "why bother, we can't do anything". I do absolutely agree with you - more people need to do something. I'm just tired by all the inertia and passive attitudes.
But by then it would already be too late. It already might be. And I'm finding it hard to believe people will ever be ready to stand up and fight. I tried getting people together to protest this, and ptice gouging in my country. Even my closest friends turned out to be of the opinion "we can't make a change, there's just a few of us at most, it's a waste of time", or "just focus on your own issues, it's not gonna change". I've lost faith, I've lost hope in this getting better. Fuck inertia.
I do, however, agree that the message format here leaves much to be desired. I'm a reddit refugee and I miss being able to write small essays.
Again you are assuming things about me, and patronizing. I've seen positive things come from gaming, from my own development as a child to wonderful experiences and friendships forged online through streaming and being a guild leader. Travelled to both ends of Europe to meet online friends. Some of my happiest memories are gaming related. I run a wonderful little discord gaming server. Yet gaming culture at large is still in great need of fixing. Arguing semantics about it is akin to #NotAllMen.
And I never said everyone that plays games is problematic, but what is normalised in the culture is. I mean I don't go around spouting bigoted nonsense and i genuinely love games. Neither does the guy down in the comments that games with his kids. My main point was and remains that a hobby that should be a learning opportunity for empathy and a broader view of the world instead often breeds bigots and fools.
4 out of those 6 have at some point received death threats from angry gamers. None of the games they worked on were multiplayer games. The last one was a train simulator, for crying out loud. They all say that they love making games, but they can't stand the the majority of what gaming communities tend to be. It's too commonplace to be just "2 out of 30 people in a discord server". Just because you're not seeing it, it doesn't mean that the problem isn't there. Don't downplay it.
I feel as if you might be playing devil's advocate here, or making assumptions, focusing on the 90's and 00's and how things are not the same. They're both the same, better, and worse at the same time. That it stopped being so much of an exclusive boys' club is one improvement that comes to mind. Yet, look at the kind of stuff that gets normalized on YouTube, Twitch, etc. I used to stream as a full time job until 2020. I know 6 people that work at different gaming companies around the world.1/2
Trust me, I know, and perhaps I should have been slightly more specific by writing "mainstream gaming culture". I remember similar shit back in the 90's and 00's as well, in physical gaming magazines I used to buy when I was younger. It's not all terrible, never was, but the vast majority of it seems to be.
I've been gaming my whole life, since the mid 90's, but the older I get, the more I despise gaming culture. I will never understand how a hobby that enables you to have so many different experiences, that presents so many amazing stories and ethical situations, that can teach you so much if you just read and listen- somehow generates a community largely made of people that normalise being so selfish, shallow, cruel, and downright stupid.