I love this energy. Can we get ppl having this same energy towards trans ppl being attacked? We already had housing lost for a whole presidential term. And things havnt gotten better
People who cry about the violent speech towards the CEOs need to see the violence the CEOs perpetrate on their workers. Straving them, forcing them to homelessness, disrupting families, etc. I wish all the best to the writers and the actors to have a successful strike.
did the exces of society forget we strike because we dont want to have to drag them out of their houses and beat them to death in front of their families?
I forget the specific macro, but it was to the tune of "someone needs to remind CEOs that union negotiations were the accepted alternative to burning their house down, because it seems like they forgot".
I wonder if hollywood execs know exactly how many of their old guard actors have ties to organized crime - cartels, the mafia, biker gangs - not to mention just how many of them have a drug dealer of some kind that can connect them to more.
Time was, marauding dragons would plunder castles and caverns, and pile their ill-gotten wealth as a bed on which they would slumber, until a heroic knight would slay them, freeing the people of the tyranny of the dragon and returning the amassed wealth. These days, the dragons are sleeping on beds of credit, stock portfolios, and hushed campaign promises; the need for a knight exists, now more than ever, but the evil and the gold has taken forms that are harder to deal with...
No one is immortal. They just have better ways to keep themselves safe from the masses. It will truly require at least 20% of the world's population to take them down
I've been seeing guillotine memes for a decade and a half now and I've seen zero operational guillotines in that time. They continue to fuck around because they know the population is never going to get to "find out."
It's meant as a threat, if they continue, this is what will happen. No one really wants to do this, but lately it's getting to the point where there is no other choice. The instant they are actually used to kill these filthy billionaires is the instant everything changes.
A threat never acted upon is not a threat. Downvote it all you want, but this is America. They've been fucking with us for decades and we keep telling them "One more step and violent revolution!" Then they smile, take another slow step, and we say "Well don't take another!" There is no revolution until there's revolution, and in America that's always one more step away. These memes irritate me like watching a dude you know will never throw a punch talk shit in a bar.
The instant you have to go hungry for more than 2 days will something happen. As long as you have the bare minimum there won't be any revolution until its forced.
I was going to ask for a source, but then remembered the internet existed. As if I needed more reasons to love and respect Mr. Perlman. I would gladly shake that man's hand
And that one from Herman Miller that gave herself a 6 million dollar bonus while complaining her employees were lazy and thats why she was firing them.
That isn't extra work, the effort put into childcare is offset by not having to cook. The effort of cooking is offset by not having to look after the kids. Someone has to build houses, the builder has time because the kids are watched and the meals are cooked. The teacher doesn't need to build the school, the fire fighter doesn't need to teach the kids, the nurse doesn't have to put out the fire and the shopkeeper doesn't have to stitch their own wound, and so on.
We don't need to start from the ground up, we're already doing what's needed. It's just the scum on top that is choking us and needs to be scraped off.
The joke, from the episode, is that only moments after they've removed the oligarchical elites from their system they accidentally fall back into a capitalistic society that favors certain people that control the money and the process starts over. I would hope that we would do better; if we had a chance to do it all over we'd regulate our businesses more effectively so they didn't get out of control.
The above comment is a brief unquoted reference to an episode of Rick & Morty, in which the apathetic alcoholic narcissist genius protagonist, having murdered a planet's ruling wealthy elite overnight, offers useless platitudes for how to rebuild their society. Incidentally, he offers this advice in a rush to get back into his ship and leave now that the fun murder part is done and the work of rebuilding begins. It's as hot a take as any edgelord who cites R&M/South Park/ Simpsons did it...
If a Walmart employee posted this, they would be getting a visit. Maybe this is what it takes, for our fictional heroes to fight this battle, but for everyone! Go Ron!
Sounds near biblical. “do not take advantage of a hired worker who is poor and needy, whether that worker is a fellow Israelite or a foreigner residing in one of your towns. Pay them their wages each day before sunset, because they are poor and are counting on it. Otherwise, they may cry to the Lord against you, and you will be guilty of sin.”Deuteronomy 24:14-15 also “whoever closes his ear to the cry of the poor will himself call out and not be answered.” Proverbs 21:13
Back when I still had FB, I saw a conservative (or "classical liberal" as he liked to say) talk about this book claiming that all historical efforts at redistribution of wealth had failed (which sounds like BS), except for violent uprisings by the poor. He thought this was an argument against Dem policies, but to me it sounded like a pretty compelling reason for the wealthy to find a way to make it work.
“Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor in history and the contrary opinion is wishful thinking at its worst.”
In an abstract way, a responsible government (I hear you laughing, hang on) is the way to achieve this 'across the board'. Min. wage, single-payer health care, hours/week max, etc. These are things that unions fight for, for their members. They are just 'closer to the point of contact' between labour and business. There are plenty of examples of strong laws and rights for workers if you look outside the USA, showing us that not only are they possible but so are governments that precipitate them.
Oh yeah, and i honestly don't care HOW it happens. Either revolution, massive general labor strike, unionization efforts, etc. I just want to stop being screwed by my employer, and for others to have the same experience of not being screwed, as soon as possible, so we as a society can start living and not just surviving.
Violence should be the final answer. You should, as a civilized person, attempt non violent solutions if they are feasible. But when all reasonable non violent solutions have been exhausted, violence is the last resort.
There are those who say violence is never the answer. I’d bet the people that say that have never been in a situation were violence was in fact the answer.
Violence should be the final answer. You should, as a civilized person, attempt non violent solutions if they are feasible. But when all reasonable non violent solutions have been exhausted, violence is the last resort.
That's all I hear with this, "Don't sink to their level" types. Translation: "I have lived a life of privilege and have never had to resort to violence as a solution to defend myself. I would also still be privileged under a new system, so I'm not really willing to risk anything actually fighting it."
the thing is violence should not be the FIRST answer, but the last. when all other attemps to talk have been ignored and turned away, and survival is in the balance (we're not talking about losing a parking spot here), then violence is the only logical choice left. as the quote says: do not go quietly into the night...
I think it’s very situational. If people broke into your home and started beating your family, you aren’t going to try and converse with them. In that situation, violence is the first answer. I would agree that in the vast majority of situations violence should be a last resort, but I wouldn’t say it should always be the last.
rbudrick
The execs names are all public knowledge. Start at the top, get the rest from there. You'll eventually get that guy too.
definitelynotafae
I love this energy. Can we get ppl having this same energy towards trans ppl being attacked? We already had housing lost for a whole presidential term. And things havnt gotten better
wintermute93
Magus25
Now, that's the old-school union way of doing things. They got the mob involved for a reason rich fucks need extra motivation.
FarQuad
He's just saying what people are thinking.
mondeca
And you can't claim he threatened you without outing yourself. Well played.
v
Ash321
Crispy4Skin
As always he nailed that role.
skadoobdoo
People who cry about the violent speech towards the CEOs need to see the violence the CEOs perpetrate on their workers. Straving them, forcing them to homelessness, disrupting families, etc. I wish all the best to the writers and the actors to have a successful strike.
MadPirateBippy
I stan arsonist Ron Pearlman.
Velina
did the exces of society forget we strike because we dont want to have to drag them out of their houses and beat them to death in front of their families?
PoorSucker
TheLastSpaceman
This is inherently a modern slave-owner talk. These CEOs need a grim reminder of history.
ironymus
no, they only need the grim reaper
Decitron
Unfortunately in US history, we compensated former slave owners after abolition & left black people to fend for themselves against racists.
IhopeyougetstageIIIcoloncancer
I forget the specific macro, but it was to the tune of "someone needs to remind CEOs that union negotiations were the accepted alternative to burning their house down, because it seems like they forgot".
AsheLake
IhopeyougetstageIIIcoloncancer
KentKnifen
They seem to have forgotten, unions and contracts were the compromise to their homes and businesses being torched
bb8dr0id
Speech here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EcdvuV81F_M
GorgeouslyDefinite
Be advised... some of the more impactful verbiage has been sanitized because fu*kbook.
iggylights
I'm on team Pearlman. Where do I sign up?
BloodyStupidJohnson
I wouldn't like to have Ron md at me.
BloodyStupidJohnson
*mad
WeSingLalaWhileTheDevilDoesTheChaCha
"You talk a lot of shit for someone living in a flammable house"
FarQuad
"I'm fire, you're not." -Hellboy
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pareidoliaperson
More accurate. Considering billionaire owning a house doesn't mean they live in it.
BernieMittens
Hey! I have that copyrighted!!
Yellowchopsticks
"You talk a lot of shit for someone who is flammable."
dekesai
JustinSearchOfEnlightenment
Hell yeah!
Donoiw
lythisus
gilliamv
Kinda close to this...
HeraldOfTheBadger
My contrarian mind: nuh uh I bet they live in a yacht ... imagines orca with molotov
Applecrack
Thats execs endgame on all strikes. Keep them poor so they can't afford to lose their house.
Navrodel
I wonder if hollywood execs know exactly how many of their old guard actors have ties to organized crime - cartels, the mafia, biker gangs - not to mention just how many of them have a drug dealer of some kind that can connect them to more.
sajgj
I love every part of this. Ron Perlman is a hero. Stay strong!
johniron1994NZ0
I begin to enjoy this timeline, millionairs start burning down the houses of billionairs .... no i dont see a problem here just solutions
DrDadJokes
Its332amAndMyDogNeedsAWalk
https://ew.com/celebrity/ron-perlman-clarifies-remarks-warning-studio-exec-about-home-sag-wag-strikes/
mrthewhitee
He didn't need to clarify. We all know what's up. Lol
MrsGogol
ph4i1
It trickles down when they spit and piss on the rest of us too
FallingStar7669
Time was, marauding dragons would plunder castles and caverns, and pile their ill-gotten wealth as a bed on which they would slumber, until a heroic knight would slay them, freeing the people of the tyranny of the dragon and returning the amassed wealth. These days, the dragons are sleeping on beds of credit, stock portfolios, and hushed campaign promises; the need for a knight exists, now more than ever, but the evil and the gold has taken forms that are harder to deal with...
pandemicmodedad
No one is immortal. They just have better ways to keep themselves safe from the masses. It will truly require at least 20% of the world's population to take them down
VashTehStampede
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
Vash killed _once_ and cried for a week.
VashTehStampede
LOL, yes I care what my cartoon avatar would do..NOT!
VashTehStampede
Vash is a Plant, and Weed get over it.
finstad4
xtd8rfx8cw350
‘Fuck around is fun, until ‘find out’ is the object in that mirror
LazyUsername99
I've been seeing guillotine memes for a decade and a half now and I've seen zero operational guillotines in that time. They continue to fuck around because they know the population is never going to get to "find out."
pandemicmodedad
It's meant as a threat, if they continue, this is what will happen. No one really wants to do this, but lately it's getting to the point where there is no other choice. The instant they are actually used to kill these filthy billionaires is the instant everything changes.
LazyUsername99
A threat never acted upon is not a threat. Downvote it all you want, but this is America. They've been fucking with us for decades and we keep telling them "One more step and violent revolution!" Then they smile, take another slow step, and we say "Well don't take another!" There is no revolution until there's revolution, and in America that's always one more step away. These memes irritate me like watching a dude you know will never throw a punch talk shit in a bar.
pandemicmodedad
The instant you have to go hungry for more than 2 days will something happen. As long as you have the bare minimum there won't be any revolution until its forced.
Heavenissize17socks
Read up on Castro's revolution. First thing, they executed all the landlords.
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
later the journalists; don't romanticize tyranny even if it got in power for the right reasons
charliethewizard
ReelPoop
IT'S PEANUT BUTTER GUILLO TINE!
colonelgandalf
rophiandis
Reminder: when Ron Perlman was contractually forced to shake Harvey Weinstein's hand, he pissed on his own hand first
MadPirateBippy
I did not know this and now I love Ron Pearlman even more.
shiyal
Legendary
kjb72
Beautiful.
zxwaffen
https://www.indiewire.com/features/general/ron-perlman-harvey-weinstein-handshake-piss-1202223179/
SexuallyAmbiguousPangolin
I was going to ask for a source, but then remembered the internet existed. As if I needed more reasons to love and respect Mr. Perlman. I would gladly shake that man's hand
ButteryBiscuitBass
After he's washed it tho please!
oggokogok
Be the kind of person he wouldn't piss on his hands for in the first place.
rophiandis
Absolutely adore this attitude, but I do feel a little bad for putting "Ron Perlman hand piss" in your search history
TheN8
You could just search for "Ron Perlman Harvey Weinstein handshake" - but your way works too...
UsernamesAreStupidAnyways
But that would mean having H.W. in your search history...
midrealmknight
“Ron Perlman handshake” is enough to get to story on it.
RustyRedbeard
And there we have it. The rigged system. There is no fairness, there is no justice. Burn it all down.
Onebigcanuck
Starting with that one execs house.
mikeatike
And that one from Herman Miller that gave herself a 6 million dollar bonus while complaining her employees were lazy and thats why she was firing them.
DSREX
Dont threaten me with a good time.
E1evenChar1ie
I havent the strength to start the revolution, but i will join the second its underway
Tootsie1
Get the guillotine out, it's time to start chopping.
newsguycraigevans
I am ready! For Justice! And mainly because
Taishosama
burn it and start over, building on the ashes of the rich
tarnok
Makes for a fertile garden
drunkbs
It won’t be easy creating a new society from the ground up.
Well, a helpful rule might be if you need something, you get it.
Pretty simple, right?
I need food.
Who’s got food for that guy?
I do, but this is for me.
Can’t you make some more?
Oh, sure. And while I’m making food for everyone, who takes care of my kids?
I’ll take care of your kids, if I get some extra food for it.
Extra food?
Well, I’m not gonna do extra work if we all get the same.
mikeatike
Guess who is gonna be part of the ashes.
RustyRedbeard
That isn't extra work, the effort put into childcare is offset by not having to cook. The effort of cooking is offset by not having to look after the kids. Someone has to build houses, the builder has time because the kids are watched and the meals are cooked. The teacher doesn't need to build the school, the fire fighter doesn't need to teach the kids, the nurse doesn't have to put out the fire and the shopkeeper doesn't have to stitch their own wound, and so on.
RustyRedbeard
We don't need to start from the ground up, we're already doing what's needed. It's just the scum on top that is choking us and needs to be scraped off.
drunkbs
The joke, from the episode, is that only moments after they've removed the oligarchical elites from their system they accidentally fall back into a capitalistic society that favors certain people that control the money and the process starts over. I would hope that we would do better; if we had a chance to do it all over we'd regulate our businesses more effectively so they didn't get out of control.
thefellerwhathadthatusername
The above comment is a brief unquoted reference to an episode of Rick & Morty, in which the apathetic alcoholic narcissist genius protagonist, having murdered a planet's ruling wealthy elite overnight, offers useless platitudes for how to rebuild their society. Incidentally, he offers this advice in a rush to get back into his ship and leave now that the fun murder part is done and the work of rebuilding begins. It's as hot a take as any edgelord who cites R&M/South Park/ Simpsons did it...
RustyRedbeard
Ah my bad, I'm not very familiar with Rick&Morty. And it's nearly impossible to identify unlabeled satire in text form anymore.
BootsDusty
Bollramm
Samcro takes no shit and send fucking Salvatore over to his house^^
shorey66
Ron fucking Perlman!
redpandabanana
ShadeMeadowsArt
RESPECT.
Btch128
Viva le Revolution
idontknowsothisistemporaryusername
Vive la révolution, pour corriger. La guillotine, et vite sinon!
musicbylen666
GD right. Peace out
pandajack
If a Walmart employee posted this, they would be getting a visit. Maybe this is what it takes, for our fictional heroes to fight this battle, but for everyone! Go Ron!
cloudstrife046583000
That cat is pissed.
JB4T5
I see what you did there
shiyal
Sounds near biblical. “do not take advantage of a hired worker who is poor and needy, whether that worker is a fellow Israelite or a foreigner residing in one of your towns. Pay them their wages each day before sunset, because they are poor and are counting on it. Otherwise, they may cry to the Lord against you, and you will be guilty of sin.”Deuteronomy 24:14-15 also “whoever closes his ear to the cry of the poor will himself call out and not be answered.” Proverbs 21:13
bedframe
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myotheralt
GOP says what bible?
shiyal
Sinmiedo1931
Ron Pearlman has always come off as someone with whom you should not fuck.
Gleipner
Well he does look like a fucking bulldog, bet that's half the reason at least. And I don't mean this in a negative way to be clear
baals
Damn.
pictory
I like the unspoken "and we know where he lives".
myotheralt
Ok guys, just don't set the state on fire (again).
ShadusMacAoidh
I mean, you don't actually need fire. A welder, some steel plates, and a bulldozer would work.
pictory
Rokin123
Violence is always an option.
Marikhen
When people say "vote with your wallet" they often fail to realize that buying a gun and a bullet counts.
thatsbadmmkay
And many times the answer
TsungiHorn
Back when I still had FB, I saw a conservative (or "classical liberal" as he liked to say) talk about this book claiming that all historical efforts at redistribution of wealth had failed (which sounds like BS), except for violent uprisings by the poor. He thought this was an argument against Dem policies, but to me it sounded like a pretty compelling reason for the wealthy to find a way to make it work.
boxak
“Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor in history and the contrary opinion is wishful thinking at its worst.”
pictory
CEO's like this always seem to be daring the people to rise up. They think the fences around their properties are high enough, I guess.
FallingStar7669
Unions are the middle-ground between slavery and violence. If these rich fuckers push for slavery, they will get violence again.
Freebite
Can we just do this across the board yet? Not just actors and writers, but just everything?
pictory
In an abstract way, a responsible government (I hear you laughing, hang on) is the way to achieve this 'across the board'. Min. wage, single-payer health care, hours/week max, etc. These are things that unions fight for, for their members. They are just 'closer to the point of contact' between labour and business. There are plenty of examples of strong laws and rights for workers if you look outside the USA, showing us that not only are they possible but so are governments that precipitate them.
Freebite
Oh yeah, and i honestly don't care HOW it happens. Either revolution, massive general labor strike, unionization efforts, etc. I just want to stop being screwed by my employer, and for others to have the same experience of not being screwed, as soon as possible, so we as a society can start living and not just surviving.
TheNakedBanana
Violence is often the answer. Has been throughout human history, don't see why we should stop the trend.
IPoisonedDorcasMutton
Violence should be the final answer. You should, as a civilized person, attempt non violent solutions if they are feasible. But when all reasonable non violent solutions have been exhausted, violence is the last resort.
jayman0123
The only true thing that was changed in human history up until now, is that now the oppressor has henchmen with machine guns and tanks.
Cranbananarama
Find board room, release wolves, pay-per-view.
DarkRedCape
There are those who say violence is never the answer. I’d bet the people that say that have never been in a situation were violence was in fact the answer.
IPoisonedDorcasMutton
Violence should be the final answer. You should, as a civilized person, attempt non violent solutions if they are feasible. But when all reasonable non violent solutions have been exhausted, violence is the last resort.
MeestowKitty
That's all I hear with this, "Don't sink to their level" types. Translation: "I have lived a life of privilege and have never had to resort to violence as a solution to defend myself. I would also still be privileged under a new system, so I'm not really willing to risk anything actually fighting it."
BurningVeryImportantThings
a lot of these mother fuckers out here have never been punched in the face and it really shows!
Ekibwurm
the thing is violence should not be the FIRST answer, but the last. when all other attemps to talk have been ignored and turned away, and survival is in the balance (we're not talking about losing a parking spot here), then violence is the only logical choice left. as the quote says: do not go quietly into the night...
Aesonique
Maxim 6. If violence wasn’t your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it.
DarkRedCape
I think it’s very situational. If people broke into your home and started beating your family, you aren’t going to try and converse with them. In that situation, violence is the first answer. I would agree that in the vast majority of situations violence should be a last resort, but I wouldn’t say it should always be the last.
Arkandos
Speak softly and carry a big stick