This would be amazing. I just went through several YEARS of attempting to cancel a home security service. Every time I'd call, they would first upsell me, then transfer me to other departments, two guys just straight up fucking hung up on me. It took me screaming and swearing on the phone after being on hold for over two hours before they'd finally get a manager on the phone...who then also tried to upsell me.
It is ridiculous how republicunts unironically complain about policies benefiting them. It's like they're masochists who get off on being roughly fucked by their government.
If they do business in NYC then they have to follow NYC rules. Same with the EU and UK where they have laws on cookie notification, data use, age verification etc. US companies have to obey those rules or stop doing business in those countries. That's why Imgur has geoblocked themselves from the UK and we need a VPN to use the site.
Minneapolis has a strongly aligned DSA city council. Wisconsin has a Strong DSA candidate running for governor. Boots on the ground people. Time to doorknock and phone. find your local chapter and get involved.
Amazing how just basic consumer rights is being called "communism"... and even more amazing is that the people who get taken advantage of the most can't see that fact and believe that they themselves should have the marrow sucked from their bones by the parasite class.
Same in the UK. That email thing IIRC came from EU law that the UK kept, but Click To Cancel is law that the Tories passed in 2024, long after we left the EU. It says cancelling has to be as easy as signing up, if you signed up online you must be able to cancel online. Renewals have to have a reminder sent out a month before giving you the option to cancel and so on.
To be fair though, people wonder why EU countries have nice things and refuse to engage with having massive socialist and communist parties and representation might be part of the reason why π yes they also have soc demsβ¦ they also have people WAY to the left of them.
The EU has its own problems: for example, through a bunch of fuckery, they managed to revive ChatControl 1.0 despite its unpopularity, and the far-right continues to gain ground there in general.
If I'm not mistaken the Biden administration had done something like this federally via the FTC (or another agency) but it was immediately overturned after the idiot took office.
Yep, although I don't think it was Trump that canceled it. The Fed Courts struck it down, and of course Trump didn't do anything to bring it back or appeal.
The market does regulate itself....as long as you have options. A free market allows the consumer to say "fuck you I'll go somewhere else" if a company does try to fuck you. The second you have consolidation, enshittification and rip offs start because no one has anywhere else to go. In conclusion, I miss Lina Khan
Free market just ends with landlords colluding to match rent prices so they can all charge more together. Itβs easier for them to earn money working with a handful of people to lower the bar than it is actually offering more value than their competitors
A free market always culminates into monopolies if there is no oversight. Government regulation is the only way to prevent it. History has proved time and time and time and time again that this is the case. Any attempt to claim otherwise is malicious or ignorant in origin.
Even the guy who sort of pioneered modern capitalism - Adam Smith - is very open in his book that governments will need to regulate markets to ensure they remain free and open. It took fuckwads in the 1800s, followed by neoliberal fuckwads in the 1950s (whose influence and thinktanks persist to this day), to put forward tremendous amounts of flawed logic and massaged data to push against regulations on both a practical and ideological level.
I mean, I'm all for this.. but can they really enforce it in NYC? I mean, someone who lives in Manhattan subscribes to service who's headquartered in the bay area.. or worse yet, India somewhere.. how can they stop that service from requiring a phone call to customer service to cancel?
They can by prosecuting them, issuing arrest warrants for repeated violations (which other U.S. jurisdictions have to honor - to not honor an arrest warrant would immediately trash the credibility of any law enforcement agency, and destroy interstate relationships), among other things that can be done.
Mamdani has clearly demonstrated a willingness to get creative to solve problems.
Yep. Especially if you live in a large city, your mayor or city council can have as much of an effect on your daily life as the president (during times when the president isn't specifically out to run the country into the ground, that its).
I love that California did this for a whole state law. Glad to see NYC catching up to stop ADOBEs stupid bullshit. And Yes I'm going to keep calling out Adobe over this because fuck adobe.
What kind of things do they make you do to unsub now? I cancelled all my paid subs years ago and even at that time some of them required digging into your profile for the unsub page.
Joe Biden spent 95% of his decades long career being a corporate shill, and then was surprised he couldnβt magically turn back the clock right at the end after the car had already gone off the cliff. Anger at Biden and other Dems is EXACTLY where it should be
DeepSpaceNetwork
But who is still using Windows 7, where this screenshot of a "Cancel" button was made?
ILogInToUpvote
This would be amazing. I just went through several YEARS of attempting to cancel a home security service. Every time I'd call, they would first upsell me, then transfer me to other departments, two guys just straight up fucking hung up on me. It took me screaming and swearing on the phone after being on hold for over two hours before they'd finally get a manager on the phone...who then also tried to upsell me.
afrontontvWOLF
I usually don't want any USA politicians on my country, but this guy is fine
CBadger
As an American, we feel the same.
justadude41123
Gyms are notorious for this kind of behavior. Next to home security systems.
usernametakenisthestoryofmylife
Can you install one to cancel certain republicans?
veronicablood
since his name came up
ImJustHereAtThisPoint
"Mamdani is COSTING BUSINESSES MILLIONS" will be the next headline
SandyTentaclez
Mamdani singlehandedly ruining the endless subscription industry.
Whitebeardthepirate
which, if mamadi has any sense, there'll be a picture of the world's smallest violin being played while a billionaire cries
ilovetraveler
It is ridiculous how republicunts unironically complain about policies benefiting them. It's like they're masochists who get off on being roughly fucked by their government.
jalcantara88127001
This man has momentum
robpaschal
How will this be enforced? What about companies outside of NYC?
CarlBassett
If they do business in NYC then they have to follow NYC rules. Same with the EU and UK where they have laws on cookie notification, data use, age verification etc. US companies have to obey those rules or stop doing business in those countries. That's why Imgur has geoblocked themselves from the UK and we need a VPN to use the site.
robpaschal
Do we know if NYC has the money and resources to go after out-of-state business entities?
supercalifragilisticexpialidociousl
βWhy do New Yorkers get all the cool stuff? β ~ crying
turtleninja5
*cries in Oklahoman*
Stupid state. At least fifty-rd.
OutboardOverlord
Because they had the sense to elect someone who is on their side. The rest of the USA ought to give it a try.
selfishsarah
Minneapolis has a strongly aligned DSA city council. Wisconsin has a Strong DSA candidate running for governor. Boots on the ground people. Time to doorknock and phone. find your local chapter and get involved.
FaeVikingPrincess
California has this as law already. was signed into law last year
Arbitrarynamehere
They elected a socialist
CallMeMcGyver
Amazing how just basic consumer rights is being called "communism"... and even more amazing is that the people who get taken advantage of the most can't see that fact and believe that they themselves should have the marrow sucked from their bones by the parasite class.
NotAllowedToArgueUnlessYouPay
"Godless Communists" ftw.
cabalin
Thatβs cOMmUNisM!!! π±
SpectrumRabbit
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usernametakenisthestoryofmylife
"What's that? I can't hear you, bad connection - *click*..."
Feralkyn
https://www.nyc.gov/mayors-office/news/2026/07/mayor-mamdani-announces-landmark--click-to-cancel--consumer-prot A source! ...That isn't a social media post with the word "Breaking" in front!
chiefrunswithscissors
We have this in Australia and it is pretty great. Every spam email has to have an unsubscribe button at the bottom.
CarlBassett
Same in the UK. That email thing IIRC came from EU law that the UK kept, but Click To Cancel is law that the Tories passed in 2024, long after we left the EU. It says cancelling has to be as easy as signing up, if you signed up online you must be able to cancel online. Renewals have to have a reminder sent out a month before giving you the option to cancel and so on.
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Oh no, he follows EU rules who as we know is a cesspool of communists and trump haters.
Mgxr44
To be fair though, people wonder why EU countries have nice things and refuse to engage with having massive socialist and communist parties and representation might be part of the reason why π yes they also have soc demsβ¦ they also have people WAY to the left of them.
VitaminJay
...can I join? I want to mind my own business, enjoy a walkable city, and paint my little toy soldiers quietly.
someguy7734206
The EU has its own problems: for example, through a bunch of fuckery, they managed to revive ChatControl 1.0 despite its unpopularity, and the far-right continues to gain ground there in general.
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Join what? The apolitical side? Politics touches every life.
VitaminJay
I'll be real with you, Chief; If you haven't glanced at my comment history, then you clearly haven't seen how political I am.
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I try to avoid that :)
VitaminJay
Skill issue.
woozle
"his steaks are too juicy and his lobster is too buttery"~ right wingers
ObiWanShalomi
Next up: Stop ICE button π
OrionJC
If I'm not mistaken the Biden administration had done something like this federally via the FTC (or another agency) but it was immediately overturned after the idiot took office.
DontNeedAWeatherManToKnowWhichWayTheWindBlows
Yep, although I don't think it was Trump that canceled it. The Fed Courts struck it down, and of course Trump didn't do anything to bring it back or appeal.
https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2024/10/federal-trade-commission-announces-">g">https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2024/10/federal-trade-commission-announces-final-click-cancel-rule-making-it-easier-consumers-end-recurring
https://www.consumeraffairs.com/news/click-to-cancel-rule-has-been-officially-canceled-072325.html
GrumpyOldMan55
The ruling class would like you to believe the "market will regulate itself." But when they're ALL fucking you the leash needs to come out.
spittleteets
Man-Dom-i? https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1c2ZxM2RmaWN2OGljdDhoZWVjcThoZnRzdmprNWNycjhsODB5ejE1bSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/hNIYA6CExglUc/200w.webp
Bystandr
**lash
IdahoGardener
Why not both?
DancingPanther
The market does regulate itself....as long as you have options. A free market allows the consumer to say "fuck you I'll go somewhere else" if a company does try to fuck you. The second you have consolidation, enshittification and rip offs start because no one has anywhere else to go. In conclusion, I miss Lina Khan
KiwiGameDev
Free market just ends with landlords colluding to match rent prices so they can all charge more together. Itβs easier for them to earn money working with a handful of people to lower the bar than it is actually offering more value than their competitors
solsactual
That is a free market, consolidation is the logical end. Only with regulation can we keep meaningful competition alive.
DancingPanther
Right, which I why I miss Lina Khan. This FTC, like everything else, is a disaster. Look no further than the paramount/warner bros acquisition
KileyBarker
A free market always culminates into monopolies if there is no oversight. Government regulation is the only way to prevent it. History has proved time and time and time and time again that this is the case. Any attempt to claim otherwise is malicious or ignorant in origin.
TinyBadger101
Even the guy who sort of pioneered modern capitalism - Adam Smith - is very open in his book that governments will need to regulate markets to ensure they remain free and open. It took fuckwads in the 1800s, followed by neoliberal fuckwads in the 1950s (whose influence and thinktanks persist to this day), to put forward tremendous amounts of flawed logic and massaged data to push against regulations on both a practical and ideological level.
Mgxr44
Put ππ» socialists ππ» in ππ» chargeππ» and ππ» shit ππ» gets ππ» done ππ»
Are we done having this debate as to who actually cares about the working class yet?!?
CarlBassett
The UK Conservatives passed the UK Click To Cancel law in 2024.
Mgxr44
Buddy, the uk conservatives are to the left of MOST of the democrats.
CarlBassett
It was a UK Conservative Prime Minister who legalised gay marriage.
DontNeedAWeatherManToKnowWhichWayTheWindBlows
I mean, I'm all for this.. but can they really enforce it in NYC? I mean, someone who lives in Manhattan subscribes to service who's headquartered in the bay area.. or worse yet, India somewhere.. how can they stop that service from requiring a phone call to customer service to cancel?
simianruler
They can block repeat offenders, meaning the company would lose access to business in NYC. That's in insane amount of revenue.
NKato
They can by prosecuting them, issuing arrest warrants for repeated violations (which other U.S. jurisdictions have to honor - to not honor an arrest warrant would immediately trash the credibility of any law enforcement agency, and destroy interstate relationships), among other things that can be done.
Mamdani has clearly demonstrated a willingness to get creative to solve problems.
chiefrunswithscissors
We have this in Australia and it works. I don't necessarily know how but it does.
Clockworkdancerobot
Local elections matter. Get out, vote, and GET INVOLVED.
FlatPlutoSociety
Yep. Especially if you live in a large city, your mayor or city council can have as much of an effect on your daily life as the president (during times when the president isn't specifically out to run the country into the ground, that its).
FaeVikingPrincess
I love that California did this for a whole state law. Glad to see NYC catching up to stop ADOBEs stupid bullshit. And Yes I'm going to keep calling out Adobe over this because fuck adobe.
FlatPlutoSociety
You're right to call out Adobe because their practices in this particular case are worse than pretty much anyone else's.
Rynestrm
What kind of things do they make you do to unsub now? I cancelled all my paid subs years ago and even at that time some of them required digging into your profile for the unsub page.
NotAllowedToArgueUnlessYouPay
I forget which service but remember reading that their customers had to take 37 separate actions to unsubscribe.
Tenugui
Talk to an AI agent
NKato
This is an example of a Mayor saying, "We can do it", rather than saying, "We could do it, but won't," like the other fucking shitDems.
AnonMasterRace
Biden did this at the fed level then the 8th court of appeals did their thing and shut it down. Direct your anger properly my dude.
Mgxr44
Joe Biden spent 95% of his decades long career being a corporate shill, and then was surprised he couldnβt magically turn back the clock right at the end after the car had already gone off the cliff. Anger at Biden and other Dems is EXACTLY where it should be
NKato
Seriously, fuck off with your bullshit.
NKato
I'm not talking about Biden. I'm talking about prior Democrat mayors of NYC who could have done *all the good things*, but chose not to.
I'm talking about the Democrats at the state and local level who keep choosing NOT to do things when they had the power to DO something.