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Nov 10, 2022 12:22 AM
GravityVT
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BumbleBeeBeardedGingerBear
Old people vote. I wish more of the rest of us did.
JohnSmithterms
System needs to be burned down and started from scratch.
GetVaxxed
I don’t think Florida is accurate anymore.
ImgurAskedForAUsername
just wait until land does vote directly after SC rules in People v Rent
hydrocarbon82
A massive amount of that land in the west is gov't owned with a few dead-end towns of 100-500 along some of the roads.
tacticalattackterriers
I always said it as "I wasn't aware sagebrush and deer were registered voters" to preempt the people who assume property=people.
jrabbitmusic
RummageSaleBubbler
Are you sure? Maybe it's really money that votes? And people are just its proxy?
flutterby7117
Kinda, but I don’t think as much as you may think. For now, the people still hold the power. Now if they’d only use it and show up and vote
RummageSaleBubbler
Sure, but the money only has to push 1-2 percent of voters
MrMineHeads
Even this is misleading because there are blues in red circles and reds in blue circles.
flutterby7117
That blue at the bottom of FL ain’t exactly so blue anymore
ICannotSanctionURBuffoonery
Notice how they use red circles to indicate ignorant white trash...
astronomypictures
Balls do by the looks of it
TheDarknessInTheHeartsOfMen
Imagine if it did, though. One party wants to destroy the land for profit. The other wants to preserve it for future generations..
DunebillyDave
What year was this map made? Doesn't reflect the 2022 midterm election results. It would be nice if this were an app that could be updated.
michaelfire
if only. You don't seem to understand Electoral College, Senate, and Congressional gerrymandering, which do just that- structural GOP rule
cardinal29
YARD SIGNS don't vote either!! Just because they're plastered everywhere, doesn't mean that douchebag election denier will win.
Skywatcher16
ditto for rallies and the crowds they draw
ComradeSnowball
And yet they keep losing elections. Sad.
ScaredSpitless
I am upvoting for Karim Douieb because that is amazing visualization, and a bit more involved than I think most people realize. Very cool
jkellyone
Poor Land, doesn't even get to vote.
dklar61
So red(s) are communists ? Just asking because I'm not from the USA but from the EU instead :P
derekjohn
Exactly the opposite. Don't ask why, it's an American thing.
dobroweigh
Communists we are all afraid of were anticommunists and killed almost all of them so
FunmonkeyCT
Section 8. Always vote Democrat.?
GeWas
America is doomed. Stop these stupid ways of election, just count peoples votes for an entire state to decide who’s gonna be gouvernor
animatronicChristmasChickens
With gerrymandering, land votes, people are disenfranchised
MeMonty
With gerrymandering, politicians vote for themselves...
xtraa
Not sure why this is still legal!? I mean it‘s a hack that has to be fixed.
Lekonua
It’s what happens when bad people are in charge of deciding what’s legal/illegal. No incentive to fix a broken system when it benefits you.
xtraa
I came across this article, saying it‘s ’kind of‘ illegal: https://www.wired.com/2017/04/gerrymandering-illegal-mathematicians-can-prove/
Ratchet600
Once the corrupt are in, they will hand wave away evidence no matter how solid it is.
sunnydayingermany
or accuse you of war against god or something like that
Hypothesist
yup
sweetandsmokey
I am really surprised by Texas graphics! I didn’t expect so much blue in it.
NotABadLookingNarcissist
Or is one gerrymandering republican, put it, normally the voters choose the candidate now the candidates choose the voters. Paraphrased.
herostarwind
Let's break it. Let's break their gamed system. GenZ already told them to get fucked, now change it so they can't do it again
ahorseelbowdeepinme
I'd love to see the losing parties colors too. Like, everything's purple just redder or bluer depending on who won.
Nightcaste
This is that, taken to it's most extreme.
PwnageHobo
Then get a proportional voting system, rather than a system based on a handful of dudes speaking for their state, based on horseback news
Cataleast
Looking at the recent midterms results, most would be a VERY similar hue of purple with very minor shifts in either direction.
NothingAndAHalf
is this better? https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/2020_election_map_large.png
ahorseelbowdeepinme
Yes!
PoisonHugs
Fuck, im buying No Man Land
svga
I mean, the house is populace rights, and the senate is state's rights; USA is a democratic republic
HootSloot
It's a democratic Republic because representatives are elected via popular vote, what house they represent in is irrelevant.
Altanese
Why are we using a government invented 250 years ago to appease slave owners?
svga
Altanese
Didn't say boo to democracy, just the American system. If it's so great why has no other country done our system?
svga
because tyrany, power, and corruption; entrenched powers; can't teach democracy to a culture who doesn't perceive property rights as well
Altanese
So the reason no country has copied America is because the American system is too good for them?
ChallengerDeep
Been a pretty successful system, for everyone, relative to the countries of the world, even for minorities.
Altanese
Relative to what countries, exactly?
svga
Iraq, Iran, India, China, Russia... I mean, only the most populace counties in the world. USA is non homogenous that the nords benefit from
Altanese
So you admit you want America to be more ethnically homogenous?
CanIGetSomeExtraSalt
looks infected
MurdockTheHawk
More like malignant
Canigetbannedagain2
Always has been...
Canigetbannedagain2
Ok ok, only the past 300 or so years, before that things were better.
RummageSaleBubbler
You're right, looks a bit, unfortunately, red.
Seraphaye
What you're looking at is zombie infection map, red areas are to be avoided at all costs as all brains were eaten already
NinetiesBoomer
"Did you get bit?"
Cilvaa
Need to cut the red bits out and burn them
Calicious
If even 10% of democrats moved to rural counties, republicans would never win another election.
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Columbus43219
I saw a good thread about this when COVID started. You'd have to be super careful exactly where you moved though because of gerrymandering.
freckledkink
We do live there. There's a lot of fucky stuff going on in rural elections to stop our votes.
tripthicket
It's 2045. Have conservatives thinned enough that even gerrymandering and repressive laws aren't enough to keep them in power? Inevitable?
Nunyajonesinc
We just have to hold on till these old ass mother fuckers die, I hope that's soon
derekjohn
With a stacked Supreme Court and zealous emphasis on State's rights you could have a perfectly 'legal' single party state until 2100.
Nunyajonesinc
Yeah, Wyoming still gets two fucking senators
MadeYouLookAgain
A vote in Wyoming is worth 4x a California vote with the electoral college.
FightinTXAg
Why are there 2 fucking dakotas???
ronin1869
Each got 1/2 in the divorce.
spaghettiThunderbolt
Yeah, that's the whole point of the Senate: each state gets equal representation. The House is (supposed to be) proportional.
DunebillyDave
Senate balances the House; saves small populations from tyranny of the majority. W/o it entire states would be permanently disenfranchised.
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Nunyajonesinc
There are bricks of uranium less dense than you
texscot
kadadev
Yup so does Rhode Island, Alaska, Vermont, Delaware, etc, they would have no say in government if not for the senate.
AbeFromanSausageKingOfChicago
I don’t think states should have equal say. People should.
cbale2000
This is why direct election of senators was a mistake. The Senate represents the states, the House represents the people. Now it's redundant
GiantMoron
DC, PR, Guam, and other places don't have any real say
kadadev
On the other hand bills would get passed faster, and presidential appointments would go through the house. Which ... might be bad.
jesuisgur
Things would just reorganize. And be a lot fairer.
AbeFromanSausageKingOfChicago
Senate needs to be abolished and redesigned. Or we need a Parliamentary system but we’ve got to kill off a few more generations of
kadadev
Eh, I could see it either way, imagine being in RI and having 1/435th of the vote and yet being one of the first states. Why even vote.
AbeFromanSausageKingOfChicago
I just don’t think that policies which effect the entire population should be weighted by where state lines were drawn. The Dakotas having
AbeFromanSausageKingOfChicago
the same day as California and Texas combined is insane. I’d rather see national propositions for everything.
IMayNotKnowWhatIAmTalkingAbout
But at the same time, imagine having 1/435th of the vote and demanding that your voice equals 74k other people. It would change the nature
IMayNotKnowWhatIAmTalkingAbout
Of the vote for sure. You see more splitting of party lines into geographic identities id hope. See some sort of majority/minority concessio
LordSithis
All states get 2. It's congress that varies by population
JustAGamerDreamin
... The senate is part of 'congress'....
LordSithis
The senate, as opposed to the house. They have two separate jobs. The house, also known colloquially as congress, is determined by
LordSithis
Population of the state. Such as California having 49+ congressmen, vs whooping having 2. The problem is that the house and senate have
LordSithis
Roles that are opposite of what they should logically, considering how they're made up.
ChaoticGoodTransGirl
Yeah that shouldn't be the case
talomox14
House varies by population. Congress is the house and Senate together.
1eudaemonia
fun fact: More people live in my town than entire state of Wyoming
Cheomesh
Wyoming has the population of about one Baltimore, MD.
TheWorldAccordingToAtlas
28 US cities have a larger population than Wyoming. One of which is Washington DC which has no senators and one non-voting representative.
ronin1869
https://www.latimes.com/california/newsletter/2022-05-12/los-angeles-county-has-a-higher-population-than-40-states-essential-california
cardinal29
CA has the 5th largest economy *in the world,* it's a powerhouse! Wyoming 581k people, smaller than most cities
usualnamewasteken
And I'm sure neither of them want the other making policies for the other. What's your point?
1eudaemonia
fun facts
usualnamewasteken
LordSithis
And? My point us that every state has 2 senators. The house is where population is differentiated. Theoretically they're supposed to balance
itsallaboutthecones
Theoretically being the key word. The Senate is supposed to be the "most deliberative body in the land" but it distinctly no longer is.
1eudaemonia
also fun fact Puerto Rico (not a state) has 6x more people than Wyoming.
Nunyajonesinc
Jesus you're dense
LordSithis
No, I understand perfectly that the senate gives 2 senators to each state. And the house is based on population.
Calicious
That's the damn issue. It isn't balanced.
LordSithis
Yes, read my other responses further in. I agree it's imbalanced. Mostly because the powers of the two are directly opposite of what they
hogeyegrex
The point is, they don’t. Giving Wyoming voters 40 times the representation per capita as California voters is not democracy.
LordSithis
They have what, 3 congressman, compared to California's 40+? The problem lay in the powers of the senate should be the houses and vice versa