Guys. To be honest, I think you are all completely ignoring reality, thinking dems will win the mid terms. It's already over I'm afraid and you're living in the last months before reality comes back full force: the heist has been successful and I reckon it's just a slope towards full fascism now. You guys were too civil about it, too late... Let the down votes come now... I'll just screenshot that comment and repost it on the day after midterms..
Is his plan to beg some more to get invited to pedo island and get rejected because he's such fucking loser that even the other racist pedos don't want to anything to do with him? Because he tried that one before.
He did not hack shit. He bought votes through illegal raffles, giveaways, literal cash bounties, and other illegal electioneering schemes in multiple states that have been well reported and well documented, and he even got his hand slapped a couple of times (ordered to stop). His plan is to do it again.
In any other country information like this one would have prompted the people to take to the streets for weeks or months on end. That’s not “murican” enough? Land of the not really free and home of the cowards…
I'm so sick of hearing about stolen elections. that's a big claim, but I rarely ever see any evidence to back it up. I never saw any evidence in 2016, 2020, or 2024 of any significance released other than a few people in the favor of trump.
I've heard blanket statements like "musk owns starlink" like that has the ability to affect anything, but both parties had plenty of time to find the proof after their election and neither ever did.
I hate leon as much as the next guy, but I don't see it.
and I do mean I HATE him. the world would be a better place without him and trump without a doubt, but I'm not so dumb to repeat baseless claims on the internet. If you have proof, then show it. I genuinely with it was, but I don't believe it.
yeah, that's the real kicker. I thought we had it in the bag when harris was who trump was up against. I thought there was no need to vote (but still did) because there's no way anyone would vote for trump after 2020. how wrong I was.
I don't actually think the 2024 election was decided by anything unlawful. Maybe some criminal influence happened, but that doesn't appear to have mattered.
The big problem is how the election was bought legally. That's way more repeatable than a heist.
Yea but it's more palatable that Elon and Trump and everyone else cheated instead of Trump beating a 2nd Democrat female candidate who has policies as palatable as canned offal.
I'm assuming that's where this all came from because the alternative is democrats and leftists are railing with an election fraud conspiracy after spending 4 years shitting on Republicans for the exact same conspiracy theory.
I don't think the Democrats provided a great candidate in either case. Better, in my view, than the Republicans by a vast margin. But I don't think pandering to the (on American scale) middle while raking in huge corpo donations is a winning tactic. While I strongly oppose the Reps, they have am identity. As a party the Dems are like a shrug.
I don't disagree that they should swing left, it's why they've lost almost every house and Senate majority as well as 2 of the last 3 presidential elections in the last 10yrs.
I just don't think making up conspiracy theories out of refusal to face facts is a healthy way to deal with major election losses.
Elon did do some illegal electioneering that he got hand slapped for. One of his voter raffles, I believe. He was buying votes the old fashioned way: with direct cash payments (illegal). They guy didn't hack shit though.
The vote counts in non-swing states support the fact Trump won without any criminal shenanigans. Of course, he did promise to do the oil industry's bidding if they gave him $1 billion, Musk was offering money to people to vote and got the job he wanted, and Trump has been selling pardons ever since, but they didn't need to rig the machines.
It's got to be impossible to intrude and interfere with multiple different state vote tabulation systems without leaving evidence behind.
I'd love the people who say so to be correct but unless you bring hard evidence and present it in a court of law (or at least public fact checking) it's nothing but 2020 MAGA election Cope in a blue hat.
B/C if you can't do that you hafta acknowledge that millions of voters walked away from Dems because they had a bad candidate with a bad message & platform.
Musk did not rig the voting machines. Every reputable election integrity organization has found no evidence of vote flipping, and these are the same organizations that found no voter fraud in 2020. Musk's plan is to throw hundreds of millions of dollars into elections, just like last time. And if Republicans win it'll be the same way they did in 2024: gerrymandering, voter suppression, and the Democrats running dogshit campaigns.
so elon hacks the devices and was it complicit or incompetent officials that failed to find any evidence of that vote tampering? I mean, we catch people who voted just one extra time by using their parent's ballot and they can't get away with that but we can't catch machines reprogrammed to give trump an edge? it seems implausible
All votes have paper ballots that can physically be counted. You look at your printed vote to verify before depositing it. The votes are audited after the election. You can't "flip a switch" and rig an election. You are refusing to use common sense or you are willfully ignorant of how our voting systems work. They will do voter suppression or use money to motivate their voters. He could create a chaotic atmosphere to cause fear and demotivate voters.
Are you smoking crack or do you just not pay attention to the news? There's no 'after election audits', they've literally been pushing to stop counting the ballots outright after a certain time.
Yeah i've been part of the auditing process. I've voted for 28 years. I've witnessed what happens. Most states auto audit if the count is close, if it's not close, they won't unless the losing party pushes for one. Clearly i'm not watching your "freakout" news. Grounded here in reality, a place you should try and visit sometime
Trust me. I hate being a pessimist even more than you do. I hate it even more than I keep being right about my worst case scenarios. It breaks my goddamn heart CONSTANTLY
Vote for the Lefties, but i don't know what the Dems could do in their position right now, they are a minority, so they are lame ducks until the Midterms.
Wasn't Hakeem JUST at that secret lil Billionaire Club meeting that Peter Thiel just threw? The one that they both tried to hide? There's more than enough blame to go around. Sorry if I'm unwilling to let the side I'm forced to vote for off the hook for the heinous shit they keep openly doin. Just because I made a joke about Hakeem being a collaborator doesn't mean I'm okay with Musk either.
But what if it does. Igot to vote for Abdul El-Sayed in Michigan, at 41yo it's the first time I've voted for someone that I am excited about, after Bernie. What happens happens, but hope is what keeps me going so I vote and hope.
Try to make as much people register & vote ! Thanks for your commitment ! All citizen getting implied means more difficulty to rig stuff & crush protests for the dictatorship...
That chance is already zero. We already know districts are gerrymandered to hell. We already know they have purged voter roles in democratic areas. We already know several states have changed voter ID requirements to limit who can vote. We already know the last election was rigged.
This will not be fair at all. We need to show up in large enough numbers that nobody can argue the results.
There's an old CIA saying regarding secret information: the likelihood of a secret getting out increases with the square of the number of people who are in on it. So according to the CIA axiom the likelihood of trump getting caught if he sent even just a single fixer to each of the 95,000 polling places in America is 9 billion percent.
I'm old enough to actually remember less than 24 fucking months ago when Harris was a sure thing, and polls said it was a lock, and the Democrats were gonna win it all, and...
Then a third of them didn't show up to vote. This all goes away if people actually show up to vote, but team blue is still arguing over what shade of blue to go with.
If it's available sure, but it isn't and still too many are saying they wont vote unless it's for a candidate like that. Im not talking about dems who obviously are plants like Fetterman, but this idea that it's gotta be all or nothing has got to go. It's part of what got us here. Team blue needs to show up and show up hard and KEEP doing it for the next elections.
Yes, it's always a choice beween "bad" and "very bad", so gotta get used to vote for lesser evil... but Mamdani shows that it is possible to get decent people and it gives hope !
I get in arguments with people about this on here all the time. Quick rehash of my talking points:
The idea that voting is meaningless is fascist propaganda that they spend serious resources, in terms of focus/money/social clout, on spreading. It logically follows that voting really, really does matter. If you think it doesn't- congratulations, you drank their kool-aid.
The idea that the only solution to our situation is a mass uprising and anything short of that is meaningless ignores the...
...actual circumstances and contexts that lead to such events. Illegitimate elections are a historically bountiful catalysts for mass revolts. There's a reason that republicans have been getting fucking bodied in basically every recent special election, if they actually have the capability to manipulate the results. It's because doing so is a last resort kind of move that could very plausibly blow up in their faces, so they're saving it for absolute necessities. So if...
...you really think the only way out is through revolution- fucking VOTE. If the fascists are going to cheat, make them do it blatantly and obviously, in a way that enough people cannot dismiss. THAT is how you get mobs in the streets.
lightfoot2
Custer had a plan.
TheGrumpyOldTroll
See the dangerous immigrant threatening this country? There he is.
ps238principal
The FBI that's headed by Kash Patel? We're lucky they aren't arresting people for not buying Trump phones.
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You're lucky he uses his eyes to find asteroids and not dissidents.
horseman05
Elon Musk is a pathetic Pedo Loser.
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Half the time I think he wouldn't know how a kid looks, does it have to use its feet? Why is it not flying? Are the screams code?
LogicalLimes
Let’s hope his trend of over promising and under delivering continues.
spontaneous9
Did you really expect the bought-&-paid-for toadies at the FBI to consider prosecuting one of their best friends?
HavetsHerren
Guys. To be honest, I think you are all completely ignoring reality, thinking dems will win the mid terms. It's already over I'm afraid and you're living in the last months before reality comes back full force: the heist has been successful and I reckon it's just a slope towards full fascism now. You guys were too civil about it, too late... Let the down votes come now... I'll just screenshot that comment and repost it on the day after midterms..
Frencheeseater
Vote & see ! Give it a chance !
foxpotate
I have a really bad feeling about this.
VulcanTourist
Claude is now breaking into secure systems. Is Grok doing the same, I wonder?
Eldibs
Is his plan to beg some more to get invited to pedo island and get rejected because he's such fucking loser that even the other racist pedos don't want to anything to do with him? Because he tried that one before.
crazyspelling
He did not hack shit. He bought votes through illegal raffles, giveaways, literal cash bounties, and other illegal electioneering schemes in multiple states that have been well reported and well documented, and he even got his hand slapped a couple of times (ordered to stop). His plan is to do it again.
Ardilla05
In any other country information like this one would have prompted the people to take to the streets for weeks or months on end. That’s not “murican” enough? Land of the not really free and home of the cowards…
sgnight13
Is he gonna slam his dick in a car door again?
NaughtButOne
ReaperCDN
The circle isn't red. How am I supposed to know which part is important to read?
DwaneDibbley
"Grok did it all on its own"
YuffieK
bad1080
yeah letting billionaires buy the voting machines was a genius plan and a great day for democracy...
Frencheeseater
Felon Musk tells Fucker Carlson that he's going to jail if tRump loses the 2024 elections...
NaughtButOne
Frencheeseater
Very nice meme ! Congratulations !
PolitiCat
Don't bother with jail or prison...
Dannyalcatraz
“It’s OK, Charlie. I got an angle.”
spontaneous9
Oops, he said the quiet part out loud.
Frencheeseater
With subtitles :D
Frencheeseater
A bit longer, he also speaks about "if we didn't rig i wouldn't be there"
Drives11
I'm so sick of hearing about stolen elections. that's a big claim, but I rarely ever see any evidence to back it up. I never saw any evidence in 2016, 2020, or 2024 of any significance released other than a few people in the favor of trump.
I've heard blanket statements like "musk owns starlink" like that has the ability to affect anything, but both parties had plenty of time to find the proof after their election and neither ever did.
I hate leon as much as the next guy, but I don't see it.
Drives11
and I do mean I HATE him. the world would be a better place without him and trump without a doubt, but I'm not so dumb to repeat baseless claims on the internet. If you have proof, then show it. I genuinely with it was, but I don't believe it.
Comet260
I don't give a shit if it was stolen. The fact is that MILLIONS of Americans happily voted for Trump. Never forget that.
Drives11
yeah, that's the real kicker. I thought we had it in the bag when harris was who trump was up against. I thought there was no need to vote (but still did) because there's no way anyone would vote for trump after 2020. how wrong I was.
I couldn't believe it when she lost.
SixSixxtySix
Leon's "plan" is to fund vulnerable Repube Senate & House candidates in Alaska, Iowa, Maine, Michigan, Ohio and some others TBD. This way he'll make those races about himself as well as the Dotard. Should go about as well as it did for him with the Wisconsin state Supreme Court election last year. https://archive.is/20260730204827/https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/30/us/politics/elon-musk-midterms-republicans.html
Drives11
I am so happy his BS didn't work here. it's one of the few times I can be proud of my state.
ElusiveThing
I don't actually think the 2024 election was decided by anything unlawful. Maybe some criminal influence happened, but that doesn't appear to have mattered.
The big problem is how the election was bought legally. That's way more repeatable than a heist.
Trunkmonkay
Yea but it's more palatable that Elon and Trump and everyone else cheated instead of Trump beating a 2nd Democrat female candidate who has policies as palatable as canned offal.
I'm assuming that's where this all came from because the alternative is democrats and leftists are railing with an election fraud conspiracy after spending 4 years shitting on Republicans for the exact same conspiracy theory.
ElusiveThing
I don't think the Democrats provided a great candidate in either case. Better, in my view, than the Republicans by a vast margin. But I don't think pandering to the (on American scale) middle while raking in huge corpo donations is a winning tactic. While I strongly oppose the Reps, they have am identity. As a party the Dems are like a shrug.
IMO the Dems should lean left more.
Trunkmonkay
I don't disagree that they should swing left, it's why they've lost almost every house and Senate majority as well as 2 of the last 3 presidential elections in the last 10yrs.
I just don't think making up conspiracy theories out of refusal to face facts is a healthy way to deal with major election losses.
ElusiveThing
Maybe I misread what you said, but I wasn't trying to say there was cheating. I'm more worried about the finances that are allowed.
akodorokku
MAXIMUM THIS ^^^^
People would rather believe in fanciful conspiracies than reckon with the reality of how much *perfectly legal* corruption and rigging there is.
crazyspelling
Elon did do some illegal electioneering that he got hand slapped for. One of his voter raffles, I believe. He was buying votes the old fashioned way: with direct cash payments (illegal). They guy didn't hack shit though.
blerft
Wrong. There's clear evidence of fuckery.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_zgtbaQkds
Ismellofhockey
The vote counts in non-swing states support the fact Trump won without any criminal shenanigans. Of course, he did promise to do the oil industry's bidding if they gave him $1 billion, Musk was offering money to people to vote and got the job he wanted, and Trump has been selling pardons ever since, but they didn't need to rig the machines.
ElusiveThing
All candidates sell themselves like that. That's the problem.
tentaclefriendly
It's got to be impossible to intrude and interfere with multiple different state vote tabulation systems without leaving evidence behind.
I'd love the people who say so to be correct but unless you bring hard evidence and present it in a court of law (or at least public fact checking) it's nothing but 2020 MAGA election Cope in a blue hat.
B/C if you can't do that you hafta acknowledge that millions of voters walked away from Dems because they had a bad candidate with a bad message & platform.
akodorokku
The fucked part is Harris knew how to win and chose not to do it - she's said as much in her memoir about the election.
akodorokku
Musk did not rig the voting machines. Every reputable election integrity organization has found no evidence of vote flipping, and these are the same organizations that found no voter fraud in 2020. Musk's plan is to throw hundreds of millions of dollars into elections, just like last time. And if Republicans win it'll be the same way they did in 2024: gerrymandering, voter suppression, and the Democrats running dogshit campaigns.
NKato
Name the Democrats correctly, please.
Establishment Democrats ran dogshit campaigns.
blerft
There's actually clear statistical evidence of fuckery - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_zgtbaQkds
psstuphere
Conspiracy theories again... Americans are dumb
Gruesslibaer
Harris was filling stadiums where Trump couldn't fill the front row.
He was leaving his supporters at rallies stranded in the middle of nowhere.
He began an insurrection with the goal of overturning our democracy while people chanted "Hang Mike Pence".
We has multiple convictions, stole classified docs, and destroyed evidence; and would have been prosecuted if he lost.
He said he won because Elon really knows those vote counting computers. You really think Trump won fairly? Get a grip.
LayingTheCableGuy
so elon hacks the devices and was it complicit or incompetent officials that failed to find any evidence of that vote tampering? I mean, we catch people who voted just one extra time by using their parent's ballot and they can't get away with that but we can't catch machines reprogrammed to give trump an edge? it seems implausible
Gruesslibaer
There was no forensic audit of the 2024 election.
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psstuphere
Yes I think he did. As an outsider it was obvious months a head that he was winning. Then he won.
Gruesslibaer
Obvious how? During his 34 felony conviction, or during his empty rallies?
seenunseen
All votes have paper ballots that can physically be counted. You look at your printed vote to verify before depositing it. The votes are audited after the election. You can't "flip a switch" and rig an election. You are refusing to use common sense or you are willfully ignorant of how our voting systems work. They will do voter suppression or use money to motivate their voters. He could create a chaotic atmosphere to cause fear and demotivate voters.
Gruesslibaer
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https://youtu.be/MNYA5ggwG84
seenunseen
Yes, you can hack the machines that's why there are physical paper ballots that the voter hands in. Then there are audits, as i said already
HerpDerpYeen
Are you smoking crack or do you just not pay attention to the news? There's no 'after election audits', they've literally been pushing to stop counting the ballots outright after a certain time.
seenunseen
Yeah i've been part of the auditing process. I've voted for 28 years. I've witnessed what happens. Most states auto audit if the count is close, if it's not close, they won't unless the losing party pushes for one. Clearly i'm not watching your "freakout" news. Grounded here in reality, a place you should try and visit sometime
HerpDerpYeen
Lmfao sure you have.
ImJustHereAtThisPoint
And what's wild is I'll bet Hakeem will "try to talk some sense into him" and then do nothing to stop or dissuade him
RetrogradeLlama
Thanks, Vlad.
ImJustHereAtThisPoint
Trust me. I hate being a pessimist even more than you do. I hate it even more than I keep being right about my worst case scenarios. It breaks my goddamn heart CONSTANTLY
RetrogradeLlama
Right... so keep blaming the Democrats for something they have no control over as the minority party instead of blaming Musk.
Good choice.
corndude101
The current Democrat leaders don’t care what Trump does because they’re in a position to benefit from it.
What exactly have the democrats done to stop or oppose what the republicans are doing?
- Worn Pink
- Written little message saying “this isn’t normal”
Those don’t do anything. It’s all for show. The Democrat party is full of a bunch of frauds right now that only care about themselves.
It’s time to start primarying them out.
Frencheeseater
Vote for the Lefties, but i don't know what the Dems could do in their position right now, they are a minority, so they are lame ducks until the Midterms.
ImJustHereAtThisPoint
Wasn't Hakeem JUST at that secret lil Billionaire Club meeting that Peter Thiel just threw? The one that they both tried to hide? There's more than enough blame to go around. Sorry if I'm unwilling to let the side I'm forced to vote for off the hook for the heinous shit they keep openly doin. Just because I made a joke about Hakeem being a collaborator doesn't mean I'm okay with Musk either.
ImJustHereAtThisPoint
Like this for example
Vebrandsson
There's going to be a lot of people not paying attention that are going to be shocked when the blue wave they're expecting doesn't happen
Aranon1183
Oh, you and 34 other fucktards giving up already proves y'all actually favor fascism.
tokenhooker
But what if it does. Igot to vote for Abdul El-Sayed in Michigan, at 41yo it's the first time I've voted for someone that I am excited about, after Bernie. What happens happens, but hope is what keeps me going so I vote and hope.
Frencheeseater
Try to make as much people register & vote ! Thanks for your commitment ! All citizen getting implied means more difficulty to rig stuff & crush protests for the dictatorship...

TheVillageGrouch9000
I'm fully expecting full on fascism after the midterms, giving a 50/50 chance we get to vote in a free and fair election.
Cgt16
That chance is already zero. We already know districts are gerrymandered to hell. We already know they have purged voter roles in democratic areas. We already know several states have changed voter ID requirements to limit who can vote. We already know the last election was rigged.
This will not be fair at all. We need to show up in large enough numbers that nobody can argue the results.
Camelspotting
Maybe, but these people are pretty phenomenally incompetent.
StephenDaniels
There's an old CIA saying regarding secret information: the likelihood of a secret getting out increases with the square of the number of people who are in on it. So according to the CIA axiom the likelihood of trump getting caught if he sent even just a single fixer to each of the 95,000 polling places in America is 9 billion percent.
Frencheeseater
He just needs a Musk to rig the counting machines.
NaughtButOne
I'm old enough to actually remember less than 24 fucking months ago when Harris was a sure thing, and polls said it was a lock, and the Democrats were gonna win it all, and...
IncognitoEnthusiast
Then a third of them didn't show up to vote. This all goes away if people actually show up to vote, but team blue is still arguing over what shade of blue to go with.
Frencheeseater
The most leftist blue you can get ! You need it, people !
IncognitoEnthusiast
If it's available sure, but it isn't and still too many are saying they wont vote unless it's for a candidate like that. Im not talking about dems who obviously are plants like Fetterman, but this idea that it's gotta be all or nothing has got to go. It's part of what got us here. Team blue needs to show up and show up hard and KEEP doing it for the next elections.
Frencheeseater
Yes, it's always a choice beween "bad" and "very bad", so gotta get used to vote for lesser evil... but Mamdani shows that it is possible to get decent people and it gives hope !

wejustdontknow
I mean, we should do all of the things to make it happen anyway.
NKato
And when enough people in one precinct say they voted blue, but all the votes from that place turns out red, there's going to be a problem.
Frencheeseater
Blud4BludGod
I get in arguments with people about this on here all the time. Quick rehash of my talking points:
The idea that voting is meaningless is fascist propaganda that they spend serious resources, in terms of focus/money/social clout, on spreading. It logically follows that voting really, really does matter. If you think it doesn't- congratulations, you drank their kool-aid.
The idea that the only solution to our situation is a mass uprising and anything short of that is meaningless ignores the...
Blud4BludGod
...actual circumstances and contexts that lead to such events. Illegitimate elections are a historically bountiful catalysts for mass revolts. There's a reason that republicans have been getting fucking bodied in basically every recent special election, if they actually have the capability to manipulate the results. It's because doing so is a last resort kind of move that could very plausibly blow up in their faces, so they're saving it for absolute necessities. So if...
Blud4BludGod
...you really think the only way out is through revolution- fucking VOTE. If the fascists are going to cheat, make them do it blatantly and obviously, in a way that enough people cannot dismiss. THAT is how you get mobs in the streets.
Frencheeseater
100% agree !
