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https://jalopnik.com/the-colonial-pipeline-was-fine-but-it-was-shutdown-to-1846911689
May 18, 2021 2:37 AM
bolinotoyou
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https://jalopnik.com/the-colonial-pipeline-was-fine-but-it-was-shutdown-to-1846911689
MajorNikon
This is exactly why I always pay in cash
hammersquirrel
obesiusthewide
HOW ABOUT HOLD THE NEWS RESPONSIBLE FOR STIRRING UP THE PANIC! If the news hadn’t made it seem like no more gas was coming we would have gas
GreenAppel
That makes a bit more sense. Still the owner has a responsibility to keep the running and should be charged and sued to blue hell.
innoxiosmors
You fuckers need to stop believing everything you read on the internet..
Thisguyisadinosaur
Thanks Obama!
saysomethingcool
THEmichaelscarn12
TwelveMotionJeweledSkull
Ahhh, people being wrong on the internet. A tale as old as time.
Bmxtucker
That website just made like $800 from me clicking that link Jesus Christ two ads between each paragraph
badgesweedontneednostinkingbadges
Everyone stuck in long lines to get gas should send Colonial a bill for their time. If this was about billing, then bill THEM.
LSparkzwz
Well it makes sense, you don't keepcthe system running after an attack. Also you can say greedy all you want but you'd do the same
iExplainTheJoke
The source has an extreme bias and less than factual reporting, look them up on media bias
RustyMcKraken
They paid them $5 Million worth of Bitcoin. Sucks to not have a back-up of your data.
meconopsia
Colonial also had a pipeline crack and spilled about 1.2 million gallons of oil near Huntersville, NC in Aug 2020.
meconopsia
When I heard about the hack i thought it might have been retaliatory.
Velonici
Ill see if I can find it but this is false. The accounting system is one of many systems that compromised.
nightlysentinel
Would be interested. That source is all over the place...Colonial is a transmission and distribution company, don’t know why author says it
nightlysentinel
...should be “a public utility.” And pretty sure FBI and CISA wouldn’t fib about DarkSide’s involvement.
Velonici
Not just that but why would they call in trucks to transfer the oil if it was just about the payment.
nightlysentinel
Yup. That was part of the emergency efforts and “hours of service” waivers from Department of Transportation, too.
miraj31415
Misleading headline. Pipeline systems were intentionally turned off to prevent them from being infected, which would have been much worse
DrakeRamorayMD
I mean yeah that’s kinda how purchasing things works
Kyllan82
shut down*
Assholefullofelbows
My actual reaction to the article:
Rauca
Hey, Jose Rodriguez Jr, it's 'shut down' not 'shutdown'
sluglie
colonial also paid the ransom within 5 hours of the demand so why was it shut down for so long?
rawniew
Isolating the infected systems and upgrading the security of the rest of the network
Nopearope
What would stop another group from ransoming? They had a hole and needed to find it and then ensure it was sealed up properly.
AvgWhiteShark
I heard Biden was drinkin all that there petrol and feeding it to his two headed cerberus hound that lives in the abandoned bunkers.
afatrollofmyown
What happened to the third head?
AvgWhiteShark
He's half orthrus.
TheGhostMinx
Is that the same two-headed cerberus that eats all the children the deep state steals for their satanic ritual to the gods of socialism?!
Tairu8
The first comment on the article makes a good point. When there is a known compromise of your system you remove network connectivity and
gurlsnuggler
The systems are completely separated for this exact reason so it’s never required.
Tairu8
possibly shut everything down in order to isolate the breach and eliminate it. Leaving critical systems running when you know you’ve been
Tairu8
compromised but don’t know how badly isn’t smart. This may have saved them money but shutting down the pipeline until they were positive it
Tairu8
wasn’t compromised was the right call.
SmallWoodLandCreature
This. Basic technological security here. Especially with ransomware. If you’re not careful they can lock you out of everything.
nightlysentinel
Thought the same. You isolate and determine extent of damage. Command and control is no joke if it can mess with pressure and flow rates.
armagetz
Yep. And it’s disgusting that folks are trying to politicize it.
thoushaltnotpass
A corporation this size should have a BCP that allows them to operate the critical infrastructure without the network. Whatever happened, ..
gurlsnuggler
They did have that. There was no reason to shutdown distribution.
thoushaltnotpass
.. they messed up somewhere.
bladderinfection
Do you mean this whole thing could have been avoided if they just spent this time using paper & pencil, and then doing some catchup? Shit.
SqueezitTheClown
Not really. They had to shut down systems to isolate the breach so it didn’t spread. That’s just good security.
Revnis
Not really, since it relies on the systems to accurately tell the company how much a given vendor is using. But the systems shouldnt even 1
Revnis
2 be connected to the larger network removing the capability for cyptos to even hit them
Skoobyduh
Or at least should have a separate redundant system
kantaloupe
They could have, but that would have cost them money.
Treblaine
Not even that, it only MIGHT have cost them a small amount of money, they didn't want to even risk losing a fraction of their wealth.
blacksheep214
No this whole thing could have been avoided if idiots weren't filling their Tupperware with gas.
LeSethX
Our power company has been pocketing maintenance money for the execs for years and recently declared bankruptcy. So the state has to pay
TwelveMotionJeweledSkull
No, because the metering and operation of the pipeline are interlinked, meaning if they just used it Darkside could hack the actual controls
Tesseract09
You do remember that there wasn't actually a shortage in supply, just people hoarding right?
TacoPoweredHelicopter
It could have been avoided if idiots did not rush the pumps.. there should not have been any issues.
BobaFettApproves
Did Fox News play a role in making the people panic?
rawniew
Yup most of the people hoarding in my area were old people. Filling up multiple containers to sit at home. While I could barely get to work
bazookasoup
Kinda, but no. It seems they would have been unable to get the amounts sent to each customer. Any for-profit organisation would have done
bazookasoup
This, as they would otherwise have had to give away their products, or rely on accurate tracking from their consumers.
iwenttousersubandalligotwasthislousyusername
Yeah, I believe the argument here is that allowing their profits to take a hit due to their own shoddy security is better than fucking over
iwenttousersubandalligotwasthislousyusername
the entire east coast in order to help their bottom line. They'd likely only face a few days of lacking info and a lot of vendors would
iwenttousersubandalligotwasthislousyusername
probably report numbers close enough to normal that they'd really never face the kind of economic hit that's often implied. Vendors that
bazookasoup
I'm not disagreeing with you. But oil is not exactly known for their humanitarian efforts
spidermenz
What does ketchup have to do with it?
moosemulligan
In heinz sight, it doesn't.
bladderinfection
We just got fucked. Should’ve used a condiment.
MyAssholeSpeaksFrenchLikeBillyCorganOnARollercoaster
After great snacks, I always mustard.
JuicyMooseDance
Lololol
Promethianfire
Because shutting it down for a few days SHOILD have been no problem. Barely an inconvenience. But idiots turned it into a real problem.
CockShittington
Because shutting down pipelines is tight!
jdore8
Phischstaebchen
Super easy, barely a inconvenience ?
Phischstaebchen
I guess it is "an" right?
FortressCraft
Oh really?
blacksheep214
How often does your local gas station get a tanker? Mine is about 3 days. A pipeline being down for a few days shouldn't be a problem
FortressCraft
I was jumping on the Screen Rant Pitch Meeting meme.
blacksheep214
Ah shit, take a week off for tax season and a whole new bunch of memes pop up...
FrenchTheLlama2
Super easy, barely an inconvenience
UnremarkablyInteresting
Hey! I needed 40 coffee cans of gasoline to survive!
DeadeicPrints
Thats fair, but then you have idiots like this
whydotheycometometodie
AOC’s originally wanted US energy & transportation on renewable resources in less than 10 years. https://www.brightest.io/green-new-deal/
GlenL
Ah yes, a reliance on fossil fuels . . . the cornerstone of the green new deal
SirBillington
Glasma
https://humansagainsttedcruz.com/reasons
Promethianfire
...Jesus christ.
netutoring
I'm gonna need you to get allllllllll the way off my back about those idiots.
SchwiftyGameOnPoint
I just facepalmed so hard, I think I will have a black eye tomorrow.
LAMovieDesign
The real upsetting thing is that Cruz isn’t an unintelligent person. He knows this is bullshit. He also knows his followers are real dumb.
DeadeicPrints
GOP has a habit if taking things that happen now under barely regulated capitalism and saying "this is what socialism will look like!"
TheCriticsWereConciseItOnlyTookFourLines
Nah, it supplies a huge share of the east coast supply. Idiots made it worse, but it was going to have an impact either way.
ThomasHarris111
Wasn't it not even down for a whole day?
Promethianfire
A very minor impact which, had no one panic-bought gas would not have been been noticed by anyone but gas station owners who would have been
Promethianfire
A little nervous for a couple days.
TheCriticsWereConciseItOnlyTookFourLines
It supplies 45% of the gasoline across the East Cost. You define minor the way you want, I suppose.
TheCriticsWereConciseItOnlyTookFourLines
*coast*
TheCriticsWereConciseItOnlyTookFourLines
Demand, by contrast, went up by 18%
Promethianfire
Its not as if the pumps at gas stations run off that pipeline directly. There are buffers.
CulturallyEmbiggened
I live in fucking Ferengi Country.
DeKetsendeRechter
Unfortunately, capitalism has spread around the globe. We're stuck being slaves to their system.
archangelselect
Greed is Eternal, 10th Rule of Acquisitions
hammersquirrel
Rule #39: Never tell a customer more than they need to know
NOPEtimusPrime
coalminersknuckle
Dapperworth
This is the best comment I have ever seen
N0S4A2
Th3Badge
A contract, is a contract, is a contract… but only between Ferengi.
lordofthedice
Treat your workers like family; exploit them.
GabbyJayYay
exploitation begins at home
B2SteakSauce
Ah, you are well versed in the rules of acquisition. You’d make a good Ferengi.
nihiltres
It never hurts to suck up to the boss.
v
ImGoingToGoFallAsleepOnABench
Just never sleep with the boss' sister.
Hiboredimdad
Growing up we all watched Star Trek and thought, what a utopian future! But we were all watching different characters I guess...
anglarite
In the episode they were introduced they were straight compared to "yankee traders", so it's fitting.
Burke616
It's a pity that so much of their appearance and culture is coded to be a racist caricature of Semitic peoples.
SpamYarBlockers
They are also described as having 24th century technology while behaving like humans of the 20th century
LurkerOfDarkness
Yes, yes you do, because the Ferengi is literally a parody of the US, they even say it, and the name is a distortion of a word for americans
JohnnyLawlessEsq
"Ferang" has been the word for European merchants in Iran and the subcontinent for longer than America has existed.
LurkerOfDarkness
It's from a different but closely related word, it's derived from "franks", which of course originally referred to Franks, over time it ½
LurkerOfDarkness
Became a generic term for "european", then "westener", and lastly "american".
powerlurker5001
Neat.
cellocalypse
Sm9yCg
The Ferengi have a conduct of honor.
ahorseelbowdeepinme
Aaronb1138
Completely wrong picture for that DS9 quote. Rom said it.
Ardranor
This guy's got the lobes
NoQuestionMarksInDeclarativeSentences
Brunt, FCA
cellocalypse
TheAnswerWasAlwaysMoreLube
The american dream?
Burke616
"Kill my boss?! Do I dare live out the American dream?"
mouseasw
The American dream.
OnePostCloserToAHappierLIfe
The republican dream, anway.
DingoMatt
Exploitation begins at home.
IAkuTheShapeShiftingMasterofDarkness
Yeah ya do hahahah
POGassultraboot
Except the feeeemales can wear clothes and earn profit. This fucking Gran Nagus sucks!
Rheios
I wish, they at least tried to be logical about their greed. Well, by DS9 at least. Which can elicit the appropriate hurrahs or boos.
powerlurker5001
Boos!
MaybeFuckYourself
Hurrah!
nrvagntsoleatr360
bifisignal
PimpinKen
Rule of acquisition #36: stupidity is good for business
Hismomoness
SilentShift
What's this from?
Hismomoness
idk I found it her eon imgur a while back
gwenniechan
cellocalypse
Nippledeepinahorse
WaterUnderTheRocketAppliances
Will alternate dimension lesbians do?
v
TheGhostMinx
GabbyJayYay
ill be in my room doing oomox
cellocalypse
kantaloupe
Well yeah. If you pay attention to IT Security news, this was public from day 1. The billing software got ransomed, so they shut down sales.
welluhwhatdoyouwantmetosay
Fine the company for paying terrorists. Make it enough so that they proactively take steps to secure their stuff.
ElbowDeep
Wait how does that work lol
kantaloupe
Which part?
Addman0
There was also fear of the ransomware spreading to pipeline control or downstream controllers like storage tanker software
gurlsnuggler
No. They are entirely seperate with no risk of that.
redditmcredditface
one jackass with a USB thumbdrive can mess it all up. an overabundance of caution is required. also: 1/2
redditmcredditface
The fuel flow was a tiny,tiny portion of the total flow,it would have been a non issue except for morons thinking its the end times 2/2
icer190
Even though they are theoretically separated. Remember when Stuxnet took out Iran's nuclear plant which was never connected to the internet?
IAmTheMightyLeon
Oddly enough, IT Security news isn't set up on my alerts. Not sure why not
muchLongerUsername
If I had to pick only one, KrebsOnSecurity.
kantaloupe
Well if you're looking for some good ones, I like Linux Action News and Risky Business.
soundvideolighting
.
OnionCutter
Youareincorrectsir
Thehackernews is good to
Niddhoger
It's a bit more complicated than that because the billing software also runs the individual vendor meters. With those down, the company 1/2
rissky13
it's not. company didn't want to lose a cent, cut off fuel putting lives at risk. and you're defending this? fucking wow.
redditmcredditface
I dont think they are defending it, just explaining the businesses motivations for shutting it down.
redditmcredditface
defending would sound like this "company X did the right thing because Y..."
Niddhoger
would have no way of knowing who was still pumping gas during that time. 2/2
gurlsnuggler
So they would have to be read manually at some point. Can’t just up and move a gas station.
redditmcredditface
I used to be in the power industry in IT. there is manual readouts on all the equipment, but one jackass with a USB stick can mess it all up
gurlsnuggler
These are read manually buy drivers all the time....
IMayNotKnowWhatIAmTalkingAbout
So, they're so fully automated that they can't operate properly?
Adderkleet
If you can't see why meters and billing might be linked...
callicat
This is gunna sound crazy but... What if the meter had a dial or something that you could read from the outside...