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I was never good with math.
Oct 29, 2017 9:47 PM
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yavamosportuputahamburgesa
ive always figured thats what parenting is.
kidfropro
I used to be a professional tutor. This is exactly how you do it.
Hiagg
NeptuneLily:(
amishcannoli
The best way to master something is to (try to) teach it to somebody else.
wandergirl
Teacher checking in- this is how I handle kids who ask for help. It boosts confidence to remind themselves how much they already know!
herenooverthere
That's an effective teaching tool though
Solid5outof7
Get them use to coaching rather than shown how to do things. I wish more adults had this syle of teaching to figure stuff out on their own
ItsThatOneAsshole
As a parent, can confirm this is done ALL the time. Take some advice from an old guy, have kids semi-young. Stuff is fresher in your mind...
SirDistic
I can't imagine having old kids. That just seems weird to me.
Equinox13
Well, once you have them they get there eventually.
MathFa9
Yeah I have same feel with my discrete mathematics homework...
aselleus
I'm teaching myself math in my 30s for a class I need to test into. Khan Academy is a life-saver. I'm up to 6th grade fractions! Lol
razetherunner
Was a tutor in college, that is legit what you are supposed to do. Not that kids taking algebra cause they have to want to learn anything...
teawithmonster
Better than my mom, she just glanced at it and said go ask my dad. I hated it.
boogersweretasty
I have to do this, too. Because it was fucking brilliant idea to put my kids in French Immersion. Math au francais. Fuck.
HappyTheKangaroo
Common Core = I can’t help them w/o internet
damangus
Ditto. If I could put my hands around the necks of those who came up with CC!
aFadingMemory
Probably just some people who devoted their lives to education and trying to help kids learn, but you know, fuck those guys right?
CorneliusCornwall
Sometimes just taking the problem out helps the kid to solve it
alsoAzrael
"Your problem has been....... 'taken out.' I'm glad we could help you 'solve' this issue."
Huckingfell
Um, yeah, that's pretty much what all of us do. I mean me. That's what I do, too.
phenomaks
well, I think everyone faces this problem of not remembering the methods to solve the problems... it's pretty smart way to refresh things up
ronnoct
No joke, this happened when I used to tutor 5th graders. Sometimes I didn't understand their homework. Not just math, other subjects too...
fpierce1997
You can consider yourself acing parenting 101 with honors!
disorderedme
http://m.wolframalpha.com/
Kavrae
Well played
ohmyapplepie
Last time I asked my ma for homework help, she shoved my face into the book, told me to shut up, get to work, and that she would 1/
ohmyapplepie
"give me something to cry about" if I didn't stop crying. And now wonders why I never call or visit. So yeah. I think you're doing a-ok.
iwanttomountndewya
I wish my dad did that. I would ask him for help and he would just look to the page then ask me what the answer is. No help
toxcrusadr
My dad tried to help me with HS Chemistry. When he tried to divide by zinc I was pretty sure he wasn't helping.
iwanttomountndewya
Yikes! Yeah after my experience I have up every asking him for help.
StaticVoidFalafel
I honestly don't think any adult would remember any school stuff unless they are doing something related for living
Py0tr77
I did Maths/Economics in high school, that stuff is branded into my skull 'till the day I die. But don't ask me what a cumulus cloud was.
TimidTyrannosaurus
All I can remember about math from junior high is the fact that there are 50 steps to a 5 step problem
kytem
That's normal. Solving a quadratic eq f.ex. involves memorizing a formula to avoid having to rederive it every time. 50 steps -> 5 steps.
kytem
I am terrible at memorizing so for the first few years I had to take the long way every time. Helped me understand the fundamentals though.
25samps
Plus one for being a good parent and still trying to help them
OpinionsAreLikeAssholes
Remember, there are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
ruok4a69
- Will Rogers
ImJustHereForTheCokeAndHookers
There are 10 kinds of people. Those who understand binary and those who don't.
qyrriqat
There are 10 kinds of people. Those who understand ternary, those who don't, and those who get it confused with binary.
dryasfuck
Always upvote ternary jokes.
Mizuha112
"Wait what that's only two wheres the third???
Mizuha112
Goddamnit i forgot the end quote
HeyMyCat
And those who know binary
D1gger
And clegane says the third is cunts
meowmeowgoesthecat
I'm 30 and I still use my fingers.
ndmaster
Now we know where you land in your threesome.
reflectedsoundofundergroundspirits
Well, we know he can't count on them.
JiggleWigglepp
Are we doing spit roast math?
reflectedsoundofundergroundspirits
That kind is always a pain in the ass. Well, when it doesn't suck.
kindofaprick
Alone?
ndmaster
Noice!
slapyamomma
And those who can extrapolate from incomplete data?
TraitorousTrump3
Or count in binary.
pointsfailatmakingsomethingup
that'd be 10 kinds of people
OpinionsAreLikeAssholes
Or 01 peoples!
ThisNameLacksPunctuation
There are 10 kinds of people in the world. Those who can read binary, those who can't and those who know this is a ternary joke.
Gyinagal
There are 10 kinds of people in this world: those who know binary, those who don't, and 8 other kinds.
ConfuseMeThis
Well, that's better than being above them. Then you look at their homework trying to figure out why the hell they're doing it that way.
excableguy
You may not figure WHY they have do the stupid shit they have to do, but you CAN figure out how to do it also.
Muttons1337
I failed a lot of grade school classes because I always got caught up in the way and the teachers never took the time to explain it to me.
excableguy
That's on the teachers. Now imagine crappy teachers in classrooms teaching the new garbage.
Muttons1337
I wouldn't survive.
Twichy
Jasarg
"This"
ozzyozzyozzyozzy
Google is my best friend, I don’t remember any of the stuff they are doing now!
Rantzas
My dad did that when helping me with math since he couldnt remember the more advanced math. Then i would figure it out that way
SnowInkling
Oh god I could never learn how to solve the questions when my dad did that sort of shit
NolookupMeminPinguin
Until you give up and bring out the jumper cables.
hailinghydrate
I've seen what they are doing with math now. I'm literally confused by how everything works.
EnderMoth
Singapore Math is the most bs thing I've ever seen.
Hino150
Whats wrong with our math? its literally the same as math everywhere else?
EnderMoth
it makes more work out of a problem than is actually necessary
Hino150
can you explain how it makes more work? if i remember its the same method as the method before common core??
MidiArbite
The "New Math" era was the best, Common Core Math is just... What?
Master1G
Common core has a lot of weird crazy ways to do simple things most kids can figure out. My little sister can find the answer but not thatway
Totallyscrewedinaustin
Same...
slapyamomma
Kids are basically becoming astrophysicists
engineergeek
No. The common core system for math is shit.
goldfishcoldfish
Common core is shit...
wyatt8740
It is, but not because of the idea of a baseline for learning. It's shit because school administrators use it to tell teachers how to teach.
engineergeek
Ehhh. I mean the two teachers who were asked to help with common core never gave it their seal of approval and have been fighting it
thundercactus
I'm a pretty smart person. knowledgeable about some modest level stuff. But you just plain forget 90% of k-12....
thundercactus
"how do I solve this calculus equation?" "lol dear nobody fucking uses calculus, we have GOOGLE"
feeltheice
Still don't know what calculus is used for in day to day stuff
aleybe
I was very fortunate during school. my dad loves problem solving but never finished school so when I got to 10th grade and started calc 1/2
aleybe
He read the text book with me and he would help me when I got stuck on some of the harder calculus questions. Even now I'm at uni 2/x
aleybe
And he will come and talk me through the harder/advanced calculus and other physics and ECE problems and try to crack them with me
aleybe
Despite the fact I can apply much more mathematical knowledge than him, he still applies logic to the problems and helps me through them :)
StonerCatJay
My siblings' school are doing something called common core I think. Completely different than what they had been doing. None of the teachers
engineergeek
The format is also crappy. Common core math is truly the worst
EveryonesCousin
Some of it is bad, but some is much better if taught properly. But the result of not proper teaching is an all around terrible experience.
StonerCatJay
2) know it well enough to properly teach it (not that they were that great before) and all of the students are still used to the old methods
StonerCatJay
3) it's a real shit show
wo1fie
So... it hasn't changed since i graduated. Neat. I hope the teachers learn since i learned way more as an adult than any class.
doctopussy
Common core is teaching kids how to use logic rather than memorization for math. It's ultimately great but implementation has been shaky.
MidiArbite
No, no it isn't. I've seen bits of it "How do you get 8 from 5+5?" isn't logic it's sending them back to counting by hand.
doctopussy
Yes, because if they understand what the numbers mean conceptually rather than memorizing the answer they're learning how to think.
Schtubby
It's really quite simple, OP. What's 2+2?
excableguy
Simple? First they do a math mountain, then draw a diagram, blah blah blah. 5 minutes later... 4. The stupid shit you see them doing.
reverendleonard
One and one make two, two and one make three. It was destiny.
Macadaynu
Once every hundred thousand years or so when the sun doth shine and the moon doth flow and the grass doth grow
Toodleypops
(Dust doth blow iirc) Needless to say, the beast was stunned.
TheUpdootist
I I + I I = I I I I
BklynPunisher
11+11=1,111
Bassnecker
LLoLLeLLLL
nobodyreadsusernamesanyway
"I think I know the answer Mr. Garrison"
lextune
Depends on the number system.
drinkALLthemilk
Yes.
Smayds
5, for extremely large values of 2.
Fuckweasel
Chair
Monstache
A bundle of sticks
tyr888
well, first we'll need to bring one of the numbers to 10, so to do that we need to add 8. since we add 8 to one, we must subtract 8 from /1
tyr888
the other 2, turning it into a -6. so now we have to figure 10-6, and we get 4. OH YEA THIS IS SO MUCH easier than when I was in school :/
tyr888
quite frankly, I think it's bizarre. this common core method can be useful for large quantities though. like multiplying 64 by 32 to 2048
RandomMagus
49 * 9 = (50-1)*(10-1) = 500 - 10 - 50 + 1 = 451. It's just disguised high school math, but good for mental math. Worth knowing
tyr888
I would have done 49 X 10, and then subtract a 49 to get to the 441 (that you meant to put)
nahgofuckyourself
2+2 is 4 -1 is 3 quick math
MidnightIDK
Smoke trees
blitzskrieg
Man's not hot
leonbloodbane
arnez
Just sauce
MrHumberfloob
Is this common core?
Totallyscrewedinaustin
Sorta
dinosaurinsweatpants
No lol
MrKibbs
46?
ohmyapplepie
*42
MrKibbs
no, 46, How many IS 46?
ParanoidWithGoodCause
22 or twodytwo as it's sometimes called
thethirstycalifornian
4 year old was convinced 1+1 was 11.. not only that, I pronounced it eleventeen. Yeah. Good times and frustrated parents hahaha
DarkMaster98
Tooty-two
pitaden
Threety-three.
mooseandsquirrell
Forty-four. Wait..
bzip2
Fitay-fith
madmardagan
I had my nephew walk me through his common core math homework and holy shit that's some fucked up nonsense.
ilovemyboobs
Its driving me nuts, esp as a homeschooling mom. I'm having to learn USELESS formulas.
razzlemahfookintassles
My friend is a 5th grade math teacher and she's having to figure it out too. We were trying to figure it out together so she could grade hw.
WhySoSirius
I helped a girl I nannied with her common core HW and it took me a while to understand, but once she walked me through it I could see why
WhySoSirius
they teach it that way. I did also show her a simpler way and told her to do it CC first and check her work with the other method
grumpy173
US 38th in math the old way. Countries that implemented common core have seen significant improvement. But you're an expert, right?
Dionysus187
If you think its because of the way its taught you are much dumber than your comments smugness portrays.
grumpy173
And if you think that the way its taught does not play a role, then you're as dumb as your comment portrays
qaaaaa
Nope. It's just a different approach than we all learned. It's much more effective, but has a steeper learning curve. Kids learn easier >
angrygardener
Good luck, you're talking sense to a bunch of band wagoneers who've never spoken to a good teacher in their lives.
qaaaaa
Though, but the problem is a lot of teachers don't really understand it. The whole CC system is flawed though.
rememberthatonetimeyeahmeneither
There’s also the matter of teaching what is developmentally appropriate. The approach has to be comprehensible not just learning the steps.
wearywanderer
People underestimate what kids are developmentally capable of
notacreeper
I'm an engineer and have taken through calc 4 and common core takes me a minute to figure out. It's ridiculous
SchwarzGeist
calc 4 == multi variable calculus?
CoffeeMugCrusade
Multi is calc 3, diff eq is calc 4
notacreeper
Yes ^
AnAccountToPostThis
Common core is objectivly better. Dont knock change just because you cant understand it. You sound like my grandpa.
damangus
"If you have 3 oranges and Janiqua has 2 bananas, how many grapes does Marco have?" <-- CC math
HollyRex
Not even close.
Delathi
there is no Common Core math. CC is a set of desired results, nowhere anywhere in the CC agreements does it specify HOW math is taught.
dinosaurinsweatpants
This is my answer every time I hear “common core math.” Common Core is a set of standards for EVERY subject.
ISupportYourViews
Thank you for this.
OnlyPostSoUsersXray
Yep, these strange methods we're seeing is the result of trying to reach more kids and get em all to learn (to pass cc standards) some 1/ 2
OnlyPostSoUsersXray
are insane, but most are actually really good, and aid heavily in mental math, understanding the solution rather than memorizing process 2/2
tryingtofallasleep
Thank you!! It’s the idiot publishers who should be pulled through the mud, not the CC.
OnlyPostSoUsersXray
Actually, the new methods are actually design to reach more kids (get more kids passing) they just aren't all great methods, but a lot are!
tryingtofallasleep
I don’t argue that. I’m just tired of seeing parents post these horrendously worded worksheets and declaring that the CC is BS.
HollyRex
As a teacher- thank you for this!!! I'm tired of non teachers telling me what BS CC is without understanding this.
OnlyPostSoUsersXray
I see it on Facebook so much, and I'm constantly battling with those morons about how their kid will be better at math cause of the methds.
011011100110111101101110011000010110110101100101
Just because you think it's nonsense doesn't mean it's nonsense, it makes doing math in your head much faster.
damangus
It's fucking retarded. Designed by beuracratic retards to ensure kids fail. WTF is wrong with 2+2=4? Why complicate the fuck out of it??
KScarey
CC was actually put together by teachers and bc so many states got on board the gov got on board too- not bureacratic
dinosaurinsweatpants
As far as I know, 2+2 is and always will be 4.... it’s designed to help calculate bigger numbers mentally and to understand the process more
OnlyPostSoUsersXray
Haha, I see so many inept parents on Facebook talking just like you, and they just sound like pathetic morons, just like you.
NurseyMcNursepants
Yes, they totally want the kids to fail. Because...........
noyouratowel
Why?
SeriouslyAwkward
They have retarded questions like "you have 5 bananas how do you get 2 bannas" and any answer that isn't what they taught is wrong
orangecicle
American education is about learning how to fall in line and obey. That's it.
doctopussy
Basically many adults don't understand common core and it makes them feel dumb. Therefore they think it's bad.
Totallyscrewedinaustin
There's 3 or 4 different ways to do everything. Kid learned 4 different ways to multiply and divide last year and this year cant remember it
damangus
Look pal, CC math isn't Microshaft Winblows, OK?!
noyouratowel
I learned multiple ways to multiply and divide in elementary school, way before common core. Teaching kids only 1 is retarded.
HorribleWifey
Common core is garbage.
MrPredator
Agree wholeheartedly on that one. Definitely some fucked up bullshit.
TheNotoriousMastermindLeBones
I made my kids learn both. They're fucking amazing at math now. Common core is good shit once you get it.
Wombatish
A lot of it is new, untested curricula, not Common Core specifically. Common Core is standards, not /exact/ methods. Source: *link in reply*
Wombatish
http://hechingerreport.org/common-core-math-problem-hard-supporters-common-core-respond-problematic-math-quiz-went-viral/
PaleChixAreMyFetish
Things you don't understand aren't always garbage. The theory of the way cc teaches math may not be how you learned, but it is sound.
HorribleWifey
I understand it- I have a secondary edu Degree.
TritonPontus
What exactly does it teach? Not exactly with the times. (In high school) didn’t attend American elementary school.
pokebug666
For the longest time I thought CC simply meant "math, reading, etc". Are you saying it also encompasses a different _way_ of teaching?
doctopussy
CC is about how kids think. E.g. in math, what used to be memorization (times tables, etc) is now about the meaning of numbers themselves.
doctopussy
Like you can learn calculus formulas but it doesn't mean much if you don't understand the
alsoAzrael
It's not once you actually understand what they're doing. The main problem is the adults didn't learn it so they don't understand.
NurseyMcNursepants
There's actually how I do math in my head anyway so I'm cool with it.
alsoAzrael
That's partly the idea! Common core tries to teach intuitive ways to think about numbers, and how to understand what you're actually doing 1
alsoAzrael
when you solve problems! The old way was just rote "do this thing because I dunno I guess it works out if you do." Now everyone's mad 2/
manofthewild07
Thank you! The only people who dislike it are older people. Kids don't know the difference!
alsoAzrael
Well, to be fair there IS another problem: sometimes the teachers don't really understand it, so they don't teach it very well. Then the 1/
alsoAzrael
kids don't like or get it because they aren't being taught properly. But this is to be expected when you're changing how the country 2/
CaffeineManic
That's the opinion of every engineer who has ever encountered it.
aguacatedeldiablo
That's the opinion of someone who's never spoken to an engineer about it
grumpy173
I'm an engineer. BSEE, MSEE. I don't think it's garbage.
doctopussy
I'm an engineer and i love it. Its teaching what I learned in college to kids in elementary school. Maybe more kids will like math now :)
3825
well the math is not garbage but saying that is the only correct way to do things is indeed garbage
Koshunae
It isnt that theyre teaching it as the only way, its that it takes so damn long to explain that they cant teach them any other way.