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I can't understand how police think they can come stop people from talking when this is EXACTLY what the first amendment is about.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." !!!to petition the Government for a redress of grievances!!!
"Tonight, July 21, another packed Grayslake board meeting had residents and allies from across Lake County demanding action be taken to stop the T5 hyperscale data center.
The village board limited comments and had police escort away commenters who went over the two minute limit. After Mayor Elizabeth Davies ended the meeting before all Grayslake residents present could speak, one resident took to the microphone to give her comments anyway. Community members formed a wall around her so she could give it without interruption by police.
Big tech and the billionaires pushing data centers into our communities may have the money, but our communities have the people power. We can organize together to win a society for the workers, not the billionaires."
Durgon8tr
holy shit. instead of sitting there people actually stood up. i applaud that, but it's not enough. 2 or 3 aren't enough. EVERYONE NEEDS TO STAND UP AND BE HEARD. This shit stains running these town halls FORGET WHO THEY ARE WORKING FOR. NOT THE CORPORATIONS. WATCH THE MONEY FOLKS!!!!!
OneOfTheEnemiesWithin
GODzillaFH
"I can't understand how police think they can come stop people from talking when this is EXACTLY what the first amendment is about." They are very, very experiencned in trying. ;-)
chiefrunswithscissors
Free speech has become inconvenient for us so it's time to shut it down
Asadsadsadclown
Yelling at them from a distance while allowing them to go about their business is not standing up to them. They have no shame. They do not care. They will laugh all the way to the bank to cash the check they got when they sold your life out from under you.
phuey200311337
Oink oink.
TyrannusEquus
And that guy has rank.
ThisIsMyUsernameThereAreManyLikeIt
The way the cop looks annoyed. "Come on, just let me be a nazi in peace, why are you so mean to me?"
Clockworkdancerobot
ACAB. Always.
minionsandbananas
typical american police
slick87gn
Check elected officials pockets.
HeHeHebieJeebies
bit of backstory here, one of the reasons we are seeing so many datacenters is Nividia and other equipment suppliers are making the hardware to not be upgradeable. these data centers last for 2-3 yrs max before the tech is outdated. it is cheaper to build a new one as the "new model" doesnt fit the same building footprint / power / racks - etc... apparently a lot of these are already non-operational and this is being used to grab land and infrastructure using government grants >
HeHeHebieJeebies
to develop out the resources with later plans to scrap the data center and put in something else. As usual we foot the bill and get none of the benefit later on like we have with the fiber install across the US.
SlavaUkrainisaysSteveBuscemi
hogeyegrex
You misspelled “data center.”
SlavaUkrainisaysSteveBuscemi
potato/tomato/shit's on fire yo
tekcor
It's a data warehouse
SlavaUkrainisaysSteveBuscemi
system needs to be reminded....
HeywouldJablowme
I will never understand why a room full of people will watch two pigs bully someone exercising their first amendment right and not dog pile those pigs and neutralize them.
thanatos777
Because no country in the world loves the taste of boot as much as the US.
HeywouldJablowme
I agree. We are more propagandized and pacified than even the North Koreans.
Ikwilstroopwaffels
ACAB. These cops need to be reminded that the community tolerates their presence so long as they remain within the boundaries set by the community. That reminder may take the form of severe and repeated beatings.
procrastinatorman
When you say police, you mean corporate thugs, right?
UncleMartha
One and the same. Kinda like how almost never see cops around when the Proud Boys, or Three Percenters, or any other dickless lunatics are demonstrating. Clark Kent effect.
hogeyegrex
Pinkertons.
satanicblackmagic
OctopusBaroness
None of our local news is covering this. Gee, wonder why.
KT8819
What local news? They're all owned by like three companies
southflhitnrun
Two reasons. 1. They support the billionaire class. 2. They fired all the journalists who could have covered local news & local politics. But, you already knew that. :-)
DropDrop
I get people hating Instagram, but there are so many of these events I see directly posted by the people who took the footage, and often the footage isn't picked up by the news. Social media is the only way to keep up with what's happening.
Unknownium
Here's your local news:
https://chronicleillinois.com/news/lake-county-news/community-groups-presenting-unified-front-against-grayslake-data-center/
seehemewe
Craigslist (the internet) & consumers
Local newspapers paid their journalists by selling ads & classified ads. When Craigslist rolled in and the money dried up
Also consumers: Since consumers flock to the dumpster fire click bait headlines, "news" orgs then measure newsworthy-ness based on what drives clicks, not what is actually important
We need a new business model, but won't get it until there is money in reporting on hard news that is boring to read about
DMSledge
Which won't happen unless there are consequences for those deliberately manipulating people with those malicious sites. Like how facebook actively promotes false news stories, because they apparently get more clickthroughs on ads.
seehemewe
We really need a multistate lawsuit like what happened with tobacco, but with social media companies. Social media doesn't have to be awful & addictive & make society worse.
DMSledge
No. The tobacco companies paid pennies on the dollar. They knowingly sold deadly products to kids. They knowingly lied about the danger of their products. They should have faced criminal charges. They should have faced wrongful death suits for everyone who died of lung cancer, throat cancer etc. They should have been destroyed. Instead they got some new rules and had to pay out some money, but less than what they made. The states essentially charged them a death fee and then let them continue.
wurstkaesescenario
Is this the democracy in the USA that everyone keeps talking about? And then the orange moron complains about Germany?
18booma
Germany isn't being very democratic either. Like I don't know what Trump said about Germany, but they are Israel's second largest arms provider, and in Berlin the police beat peaceful Free Palestine protesters every time.
Zeterai
Right now he's whining about Canada. Again. Brand new 50% tariffs sweeping across the country because he's so fucking fixated on breaking our economy so we comply with his dreams of expanding the US borders as a monument to his juvenile views on a legacy.
Calistrasza
The US Constitution is meaningless. The current president set the precedent that people in positions of power can do whatever they want and get away with it. So anyone with any modicum of authority believes that applies to them, too. There is no fixing this. There is no going back. The only way is forward, and that forward path is going to be long and difficult. Were I physically within the United States, I would do my part. I am not. All I can do is watch, and hope the people break free.
Ranb40
Every county commissioner meeting I ever attended had a typical 2 minute comment period for each person that wanted to speak. Sometimes a single person was allowed to speak for a group and they would give their spokesperson their 2 minutes. It usually worked out well enough.
YpsilantiRomani
They have already sold out they do not care about earning trust back
YepItsCancer
They have to live in the community though. I guess they don't care if they have to replace broken windows every week, then 🤷♀️
hogeyegrex
They are absolutely representing the people they serve.
InnerBushman
And by "people" they mean "corporate entities" who eroded the law so much that they also can have "personhood".
hogeyegrex
I mean, ultimately, it’s the people behind those entities. They are not a faceless, nameless mist. They have just manipulated the system of laws so that they are not subject to them. It’s actual individuals whose instructions they follow, to those individuals’ benefit and everyone else’s detriment.
justfillingthespace
Those individuals may be the chief officers of the company, but that company is itself beholden to the investors. Literally. Legally. They have found a way to redistribute the blame back to us.
hogeyegrex
Us? Sorry, I’m not a member of the investment class.
Markodgt
I'm just curious about the police in this situation. Doesn't he live in the same community? Does he simply not care, or is there some kind of power structure that benefits him? I don't understand. It seems like, rather than helping the community stand up to these oligarchs and address the underlying problem, he's focused on suppressing the people instead.
thanatos777
He almost certainly does not live in the same community. Piece of shit pig motherfuckers almost always live outside of the cities they work, usually in some bedroom community or exurb. He also very much does not care, and there is a huge power structure that insures he is never held accountable, and the worst punishment he will ever face is a stress-related disability retirement that gets him a large lifetime pension.
NickRivieraMD
That's the job.
r0b0tc0rpse
Then they use their flock cameras to go arrest them later.
override367
the rule isnt a data center rule, city councils have speaking time rules because otherwise they will literally never end
you literally dont know what you're talking about by saying it violates the first amendment
If you disagree do you think a 2 hour council meeting should alow someone to go up there and talk about how all LGBTQ people should be put to death for two straight hours?
override367
I run city council meetings and they already go on for hours and there is always someone that wants to talk forever
In my recollection we've never had police go up to them though, thats insane, we just turn the mic off if they go more than 30 seconds over time
delpharseven
Still the freest country in the world? Some Americans will say yes, and justify their position by pointing out that they still have guns. Stupid sheep. The enemies of freedom figured you out a long time ago. As long they let you keep your bang-bang toys you would let them take away everything else. "The only right we really need is the right to bear arms." Okay then, that is the only right you shall have.
ArkoneAxon
Note that guns help in getting away with, say... and I say this purely for informational purposes of course... physically sabotaging a datacenter. Not only with being able to avoid arrest while carrying out the act, but because you don't need to burn the building down to destroy them. Just pump a few rounds into the equipment; they're basically just a bunch of graphics cards linked together. Fragile.
delpharseven
Do you know how many bullets it would take to destroy - completely and permanently - a data centre? And how long it would take? A very rough guide is one carefully aimed (target is <5 cm tall but very deep) shot per 2 kW.
ArkoneAxon
Again - speaking purely hypothetically and for informational purposes - you don't have to completely destroy a data center to cause expensive and massive damage.
Then again, as long as everything's running, water guns are at least as effective. Electronic devices do not enjoy getting wet.
idiotsonfire
We've never been the freest country in the world.
hogeyegrex
Depends. How rich are you?
EmeRgencyDrD
and your skin color
Zeterai
They're convinced that owning their bangsticks means nobody can take anything else away from them. This fails on two points. One, they're happily giving everything up from fear of having it taken. Two, their beloved arms wouldn't actually protect them in the first place; to quote Jim Jefferies, "You do realize the government has drones, right? You're bringing a gun to a drone fight."
delpharseven
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OneOfTheEnemiesWithin
I don’t know why people are so damn excited that we own guns. If we had a well armed militia, we wouldn’t have the Trump regime. There are more of us who want him out than there are maga, but having more guns than people in the US, doesn’t mean we have more guns than the military, or equal weapons to the military. A well regulated militia was a lot easier when the founders wrote our constitution. Now? There isn’t a singular military on earth as powerful, let alone a population of civilians.
Fentex
Iran's very evidentlly is, tosser.
hogeyegrex
If they were to make the idiotic mistake of trying to invade us, rather than us making the idiotic mistake of trying to invade them, the results would be much worse for them than it has been for us.
Fentex
Don't try and pretend you get to pick a fantasy to base judgiing what reality has already decided. Having little daydreams is why fools imagine winning, where they won't and didn't.
SiphorDias
That’s not true though. He won popular vote. There are more maga
delpharseven
The winner of the popular vote in the US is consistently "did not vote".
BrdCdn
Not voting is still a vote. It's a vote you don't care and are happy with any outcome.
wherethehorriblethingsare
Recall that entire fucking board.
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dootdootiamgroot
And fire the cops willing to facisms work... so all of em
PineappleLoopsBroether
Fuck the police
wherethehorriblethingsare
With a Manchineel dick
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Frencheeseater
DeltaBlast
The power of voodoo?
Frencheeseater
Whatever works.
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mcoulter876
Why? What did she say?
PineappleLoopsBroether
Not her, the board that’s trying to stop her from calling out the city for selling out their citizens
mcoulter876
Doesn't answer my question. Where's the video showing what she said that lead them to want her out?
getthismanabeer
Could be as simple as an artificially short time limit.
tekcor
Read. The. Fucking. Description.
stabbermcshooty
Ah. Yes. The obvious career devils advocate. You must be such a tiring person
mcoulter876
Because I want to know what she said? Okay.
rdewalt
Bastards, all of them. Death's too good for them. We need to bring the word "Pillory" back into common usage. And I guarantee had that room not been FULL OF VERY WHITE PEOPLE, there would have been beatings by the cops.
Check his wife. Is she "Clumsy" and get bruised often? Domestic Abuse isn't funny, but it is more common in Cop families than general population.
OtisTDrunk
Pillory
Kbantar
I know in theory, cops can be good people, because my dad was. (People he'd arrested gave our family condolences when he died.) But I don't trust cops because I met some of his coworkers. One was arrested for statutory involving a teen in the ride along program. Others for drug dealing.
2774
Over 4 times as common, with 40% of domestic partners REPORTING abuse.
Now, how many were too scared to report anything?
override367
Speaking time limits are present at every town hall and city council in the country...
Ondradactyl
When your job lets you shoot people that don’t show the proper respect or hurt your baby feewings, the word “no” becomes meaningless.
Andunistar
I've been a fan of brining back defenestrstion so this comment resonated with me.
hogeyegrex
Oubliette is not a word heard often enough lately.
Andunistar
Lmao my man. Have you considered Scaphism?
hogeyegrex
Oh, and defenestration has been a favorite word for ages, and a favorite public art installation for a little less time. Google it. It was fun.
hogeyegrex
Reeks of effort. I have no great desire to watch anyone suffer. Okay, maybe Stephen Miller. But simply being able to forget that certain people ever existed is an appealing thought from time to time. No guillotine needed. No public spectacle. Just a better world.
Andunistar
Not that much effort but I understand not wanting to watch someone die like an insect in the garden. I might be meaner spirited then most.
SatansRepairDroid
How can those pigs live with themselves
idiotsonfire
They're Nazis. That's how.
Alphonsevaher
They get paid for this. That's all they care about.
Sipmonsnsn
Alcoholism, materialism and degredation of others to get dopamine. For some violence/sadism
prufock
That's insulting to actual pigs.
HeywouldJablowme
They're not intelligent people. They are idiots with a badge and a gun that do what they're told, and then go home and beat their wives.
hogeyegrex
It’s really nice to see a thumbhead like that thwarted in his unjustified oppression. Really nice. Nobody got violent. Nobody screamed. They just denied that foreskin faced fuck the opportunity to deny people their rights. I love every one of those people.
SergeyPrkl
Hey! Do not insult the great foreskin!
rfleming1080
They get off on this type of stuff. Why do you think they beat their spouse and kids?
redline6
Spot on! ACAB!
Nbiakro
"Just doing my job" https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1czh6cTBqaWR4NXp6ZHZ6MzV2eXE5dTlrc3lwc3djeTIyc28wMHB3OCZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/mkhMTALnrYRLnuoe5P/200w.webp
plasticpantherpescatarian
When there’s no consequences, there’s no guilt
Kbantar
Guilt is about internal consequences. There are many things each of us could do without consequences but don't because we would feel guilt. I think it's because these bastards don't feel guilt so they look for situations where they won't face consequences for horrible acts.
plasticpantherpescatarian
So it’s internal consequences. That means they’re feeling nothing inside. I cannot even begin to imagine how heartless you have to be to feel nothing while committing such convent acts. Against their own countrymen and women no less 🤦 ❤️🩹
plasticpantherpescatarian
*such violent acts *
Kbantar
They're probably feeling something... joy at hurting others without consequences. They exist purely in their own heads, without any understanding or caring about anything that is not them or external.
Draquez1
They value the lie of stability and the power that comes with it more than they do human life and freedom. It's a very common trait in those with power.
MrPoodle
Because this is the shit they live for
Goldensands
The purpose of the police is to take from the working class and funnel to the rich filth. Live with themselves? Who knows, but they've managed all their lives. Same as you have tolerated them.
ActuallyMyNamesMarina
They're not people.
Slonato
Because they think they're going to win.
HFlashman
And they will. If you do not exercise your right to stand up against an armed oppressor, you will not be citizens anymore but slaves.
xj4low
They aren't there to protect the citizens. They are there to oppress them.
datphone777365
Tons of payed ot.
Wapusk
Well, I can only assume they agree with the public speakers, considering they didn't murder anyone.
Kbantar
Ah right. Like saying Nazis weren't bad people even seconds before they filled up the first cattle car. It's not perfectly good OR serial murder.
Wapusk
I never said they weren't PIGS. Nor meant to imply it what I meant to convey is, I am surprised my their restraint.
Kbantar
Your post did not convey that. It was phrased as if mocking the distrust and hate for cops.
Wapusk
Hmm. I can see that interpretation.
Though, suggesting cops murder people they DISagree with would be pretty damning praise.
IMHO
zHurk777
$$$?
CyberHexx
Corporate money is great for your sleep schedule, I hear.
ireallydontthinkso
if they keep doing this shit they wont.
teamsloth
That's why we call them pigs. They roll in their own shit. So why not?
sadurdaynight
We're reverting to feudalism. The elected officials are treated like royalty and the police are their guards. Neither the politicians nor the police serve the people. The people are expected to serve the politicians, and the police are there to ensure that happens.
datphone777365
Oligarchy never left... its just got better pr over the years. That and its not just the dirt poor and poc feeling it now.
Justwarlockthings
This is the best explanation
PointsAreForB1tches
They will beat their wives and murder brown people to feel better
EBlade19889
Easily. Next question. Stop pretending that you're playing by the same rules. You're not.
Weissgrossmutter
It says to serve and protect, it doesn't say who.
FermentTheRich3000
Serve and protect was a Hollywood invention.
TheOnlyPtylerdactyl
Bro, the police LIKE doing this shit. They consider themselves soldiers whose duty it is to stop the rabble (that's us, you and me) from causing chaos (not conforming 100% to whatever the ruling class wants).
quade
They hate America, so probably pretty well. ACAB
UncleMartha
They get paid obscenely to be the bully-boys for oligarchs and autocrats. They don't give a fuck as long as the checks clear.
Destro24
I don’t think even policemen get paid much. Either they have to work loads of overtime or get side jobs. Of then there are the corrupt ones, adrenaline junkies, or punks that just like being over people that stay.
UncleMartha
To be sure, the job appeals to damaged men with authoritarian leanings. No matter how altruistic an applicant is, they're probably primed for "law and order" to begin with. On the matter of pay, cops are masters of milking the clock and logging OT. To say nothing of lucrative side hustles as "security" at malls, schools, shops and the like. They don't make anybody much safer (demonstrably less so in schools), but it pays BANK.
UncleMartha
There was an article some years ago about a high-ranking cop here (PNW) who regularly cleared $700K per year, gaming the OT and "working" off the clock in uniform doing security work at various places (which is technically illegal, but when has that ever stopped a cop?). There was a brief, local media frenzy, and then it vanished. I'm sure he's still doing all the same things today.
datphone777365
Most ot is bs, they will sit in there cars or at a desk "filing" reports. As in fucking around.
CallMeMcGyver
ACAB... until proven otherwise.
Hmuda
They peaked in high school, and now this is the only thrill they get in life.
nanomaus
I'm beginning to wonder if they even peaked in High School.
hogeyegrex
And/or they were majorly fucked with in high school, and this is how they chose to get back at the world.
rdewalt
They believe that they are RIGHT and also Untouchable.
FermentTheRich3000
They know they are wrong, but they know they can get away with it.
Cilvaa
They need to be touched, by some bullets
firlefranz
Cilvaa
firlefranz
sme2812
To protect and serve the dollar