This guy like a skate-boarder or something? Like I get it.... I hate mowing grass....but this is a bit much unless you want your own personal skate park in your backyard lol
Im probably trying to cope but hey maybe they just wanna not use a bunch of water on a lawn and would install planter boxes i had a neighbor get rid of their yard replace it with pretty rocks and put up planter boxes full of native stuff
Non-permeable square footage zoning/permit limits exist for a reason. That is going to be expensive to tear up, and then there're the fines, lawsuit settlement amounts etc. And you can be sure that the neighbors' insurers will be footing their legal bills.
The best part is, they'll never be able to sell that place for all the money they wasted and will more than likely have to tear it before being able to resell at all.
Guy had 40k to pave his yard, he easily could have paid to have it mowed. This question presumes that there might be a genuine, tactical logic behind doing this sort of thing.
As someone who meets new people every day, as a part of my job, I am often reminded that a not-insignificant portion of the general populace is insane to some extent. And insanity does not instantly disqualify you from being economically successful. He could just have an illogical hatred for grass for all we know.
I was honestly thinking the only benefit to this would be if you were obsessed with skateboarding and didn’t want to do it publicly. Even then, it’s a dumb choice.
I have to believe that last story is a lie or not the full story. What library employee would hear that complaint and actually restrict the kid's access if they're just quietly reading all day?
I believe it entirely... white neighborhood library, brown kids... sorry, you can't loiter... upper middle class neighborhood library, poor kids... sorry you can't loiter... I live in a town with a very sharp economic divide, literally millionaires south of Main Street and lower middle class to poorish north of main... the shit my kids saw in their high school (on Main Street) was unbelievable. Rich people are entitled assholes.
@op mythbusters tried this with a pig, you could still smell it, but it is possible they took extra steps to mitigate the smell, but as decomp happens there would be pockets allowing for collapse
I recently watched a murder documentary about this lady who killed her husband and did this. Then married her lover ON THE PATIO under which her husband was buried. Within a few months it was obvious. A 7'x3' rotting decompression.
Modern grass yards are the equivalent of eco-parking lots. The grass is an evasive species in most places and prevents regional plants and flowers from growing. Thus making it more difficult for native pollinators and birds to thrive. If you’re going to have a lawn, you might as well put down concrete for all the good it’s doing.
There is zero chance that was done under a permit, nor to code. Depending on where it is, there might even by wastewater management issues. In my county, only 25% of you lot can be covered by impermeable material, like concrete, or a house. And looking at that neighborhood, there’s no way this doesn’t violate the HOA.
It’s going to cost that homeowner a lot of money to rip out all that concrete.
In many many places there are strict laws about how much impervious ground one can create on their property, for several reasons. The first being runoff control. This person should be made to remove all of this. I bar no doubt the neighbors are seeing the flooding as a result too. The contractors that did this should no longer be allowed to use concrete and it’s just wrong on so many levels.
In stormwater management, this is called impervious terrain. Water can't penetrate and soak into the soil, so it just runs off. Every drop that is no longer soaking in soil now has to be managed and drained away, or risk flooding.
If you are too lazy to mow the lawn, if you are too lazy to find low water alternatives, grasses, if you are too lazy to do anything but concrete ... "Concrete holds heat, which will make your house use lots more air conditioning. Do you want to sweat your back side off all summer?"
Ghetto seems a pretty weird choice for a generalized description of lazy and dumb... Feels kinda dog whistlely and tbf given the current times im sure why some could see that.
As someone that works in residential zoning. Not everywhere requires specific permits for personal property. It varies state to state, and county to county. I'm in a super strict county. They could easily be pulled for a violation for this, and be ordered to remove all of this by the BZA, at cost to the home owner with repercussions on damages filed in court by the affected neighboring properties. Friends. Its easier to call your local county for guidance before you lose big on money.
In my county this would result in a building code violation fine, stormwater fines, and in all likelihood a total removal of the new concrete at the homeowner's expense. In other words, it's a very expensive mistake. I agree with you that it's always best to call the county before you do stuff like this
Sometimes it is a mistake. A lot of the times it isn't. When it isn't... the board usually susses it out. My fave is when the applicant comes to a public hearing and either is the person that built something and or brought a qualified contractor. When the board tries to ask how much experience do you have in construction? And they respond in ## of years. They been caught out. Because my Board Member can't find a "no fault of the owner" when a professional should know to pull permits.
My next door neighbor built an addition the change his yard runoff onto my lot and when I complained to the county they said there’s no law against that.
Depending on where it is, there could be some nasty stormwater management fines. Adding this much concrete can impact how rain is handled is a much larger area than just his yard.
I distinctly remember a house that hit their poured concrete limit (I didn't fully understand it all) and we had to build their walkway with bag mixed cement about an two inches thick.
Also, this house had a propane leak and the outdoor fireplace exploded and a large chunk of marble destroyed the guy's big toe.
In theory, he could have a stormwater detainment system to slowly feed the run off into the stormwater system. That being said, I highly doubt someone like this would spend that money. Honestly, if a plan like this came to me, there better be a good reason for that much concrete, or it's getting denied.
Also, they'd need to show how they plan to off set the phosphorus and other nutrients that the ground would normally absorb, but is now going into a stormwater system.
As ex-constriction guy... I've asked countless times from customers and stupid foremen "Are you serious?" And twice after first time. If hint is not taken "sign this, which says you take full responsibility." And added a zero to price. If I don't do it, some1 will.
Monetarily it's a one time investment, and given that nothing is properly graded, I'm guessing the contractor was a friend of a friend. As far as zero understanding, you're absolutely right. Beyond flooding their neighbors yards, if you look closely you can see the trees are sitting in a puddle of standing water; the cutouts are too small - best case scenario is that they all die of root rot. Alternately, if they survive the roots are going to tear through the surrounding pavement.
Permits can be required by local municipalities. I have experience with concrete leveling (aka mud jacking) and have worked directly with many various townships, villages, and cities. Every one of them can be a little different in terms of what you need a permit for.
Flat work almost always requires a permit for a new pour and a few even require one for lifting it.
Any other questions that are phrased as incomplete sentences and/or incorrect statements?
Ya getting dved but ya not wrong, its just that folks either dont know ya referring to the monoplant waste of space grass or depending on the location how water wasteful it is.
To be fair? Grass is only water wasteful...if you water it. The only time my family's lawn got watered was when we as kids played with a sprinkler. Otherwise, we let it go dormant. Course, this is on Vancouver Island, and our summers are not as long/brutal as others, and the grass survived dormancy...
Not only that, a lawn is still better than straight concrete. One is definitely less destructive than the other yet that commentor, like most redditors, only see in black and white and cant comprehend the gray area.
SomeGuyWhoSaysStuff
This looks stupid and did he get a permit for this? Most places don't allow 100% impervious coverage like that, lawsuit and fines incoming
ghornby
Is this Tony Hawk’s backyard?
Foxplay
This guy like a skate-boarder or something? Like I get it.... I hate mowing grass....but this is a bit much unless you want your own personal skate park in your backyard lol
MollyInanna
JFC that camera was making me sick
PickleBean
Im probably trying to cope but hey maybe they just wanna not use a bunch of water on a lawn and would install planter boxes i had a neighbor get rid of their yard replace it with pretty rocks and put up planter boxes full of native stuff
sosume
Non-permeable square footage zoning/permit limits exist for a reason. That is going to be expensive to tear up, and then there're the fines, lawsuit settlement amounts etc. And you can be sure that the neighbors' insurers will be footing their legal bills.
thatsbadmmkay
Thats pretty illegal
MisterLemons
Like, why? Just lose the trees and shrubs, you're clearly avoiding anything green.
This is the kind of person to complain about how hot summer is getting and how their air conditioning costs too much to run.
YouRadicalizedMe
Fucking bitches
flornholio
....aaaaaand this is why planning depts exist.
kahlas
That guy hates mowing more than I do. I really hate mowing.
BallsLikeWatermelonsPeckerLikeAThimble
Violates zoning pretty much everywhere. He’ll be sued and forced to remove it.
agagle
Skate board party don't be a didj
Bojovnik84
The best part is, they'll never be able to sell that place for all the money they wasted and will more than likely have to tear it before being able to resell at all.
billymaditsdone
What is the point of this? To avoid mowing? Maybe he's a skateboarder or some shit to explain this...
LookingLikeASnack
Guy had 40k to pave his yard, he easily could have paid to have it mowed. This question presumes that there might be a genuine, tactical logic behind doing this sort of thing.
As someone who meets new people every day, as a part of my job, I am often reminded that a not-insignificant portion of the general populace is insane to some extent. And insanity does not instantly disqualify you from being economically successful. He could just have an illogical hatred for grass for all we know.
VentricularAnomaly
I was honestly thinking the only benefit to this would be if you were obsessed with skateboarding and didn’t want to do it publicly. Even then, it’s a dumb choice.
plantpr0n
Decoyape11
That’s a skate park
LespritDeLescalier22
Time to shredddddddd
Mayfly10
If you surgically removed all the fun.
1280X1024
that was my thought, he could have at least put in some ramps
Gelantious
Anyone know where this video is from and got a link? Would like to follow this story
jackohill108888
I've seen more inviting yards in prisons.
poundingCode
You must stay at only the best prisons!
syntheticgod8
Really? With saplings and a gazebo? In prison? Were you doing federal time or at a treatment center for DUI?
RedClaws23
At the risk of taking your comment as genuine: yeah? Prisons with community gardens are a real thing, even in the united states
whatspaulplayingtoday
I, uh. I think it was a joke, buds.
syntheticgod8
I don't play jokes with prison amenities.
whatspaulplayingtoday
Then I got nothin' for ya. Have a good one.
thisisagreatusernamedontworryitswonderful
Have you tried considering that you aren't the main character of the internet?
MissSpelledTattoo
ralphie84
PassiveAgressiveMan
I have to believe that last story is a lie or not the full story. What library employee would hear that complaint and actually restrict the kid's access if they're just quietly reading all day?
CallMeMcGyver
I believe it entirely... white neighborhood library, brown kids... sorry, you can't loiter... upper middle class neighborhood library, poor kids... sorry you can't loiter... I live in a town with a very sharp economic divide, literally millionaires south of Main Street and lower middle class to poorish north of main... the shit my kids saw in their high school (on Main Street) was unbelievable. Rich people are entitled assholes.
YpsilantiRomani
@op mythbusters tried this with a pig, you could still smell it, but it is possible they took extra steps to mitigate the smell, but as decomp happens there would be pockets allowing for collapse
Snuggelapolous
I recently watched a murder documentary about this lady who killed her husband and did this. Then married her lover ON THE PATIO under which her husband was buried. Within a few months it was obvious. A 7'x3' rotting decompression.
swayzeexpress
Crazy! What's the name of the documentary?
Snuggelapolous
I don't remember. I watch alot of murder shows. They sooth me.
vmos
Brookside
Eleshar24
Must be extra comfy during hot summer too!
ZaphodBbx
They've paved paradise, and put up a parking lot...
VashTehStampede
Why not?
BillyM00n
Joni Mitchell warned us against it.
korndogg83
Joni Mitchell never lies, Janet told us.
PhallicsJones
Don’t it always seem to go that you don’t know what you’ve got til it’s gone.
ProcrastinatingWork
They took all the trees and put them in a tree museum
datphone777365
Paradise? The water intensive mono plant swath of grass? Ehh.
Howlingowl
Modern grass yards are the equivalent of eco-parking lots. The grass is an evasive species in most places and prevents regional plants and flowers from growing. Thus making it more difficult for native pollinators and birds to thrive. If you’re going to have a lawn, you might as well put down concrete for all the good it’s doing.
DongleDingler
Even monoculture grass can support insects, especially burrowing ones
MikeRInternetTraveler
There is zero chance that was done under a permit, nor to code. Depending on where it is, there might even by wastewater management issues. In my county, only 25% of you lot can be covered by impermeable material, like concrete, or a house. And looking at that neighborhood, there’s no way this doesn’t violate the HOA.
It’s going to cost that homeowner a lot of money to rip out all that concrete.
rockhydra
In many many places there are strict laws about how much impervious ground one can create on their property, for several reasons. The first being runoff control. This person should be made to remove all of this. I bar no doubt the neighbors are seeing the flooding as a result too. The contractors that did this should no longer be allowed to use concrete and it’s just wrong on so many levels.
MoopsyLD
doesn't even look like they used levels either.
MrHappySmiles
Most places have laws against such complete ground coverage..
ChorizoPig
Yeah; hard to imagine any civilized place without restrictions on impervious cover. Is this OK?
InablueMule
My county allowed the neighbor to fill 2000 yds. and block drainage. All complaints went unanswered even at state level.
ICouldBeTheDestroyerOfWorlds
Yes! This. Where I live it’s 35% including the house.
ProcrastinatingWork
City officials would make him rip it up if they saw this
MeatPosicleIsDead
I always worry about water permeability with this stuff. That would flash flood where I live in a mild shower.
corylusavellana
Yes catchment hardening is pretty much the main deal for urban/semi-urban flooding now.
INeedMoreGifMeMoreJustOneMore
That's why this is highly illegal in just about anywhere I've ever known.
eclipse127
In stormwater management, this is called impervious terrain. Water can't penetrate and soak into the soil, so it just runs off. Every drop that is no longer soaking in soil now has to be managed and drained away, or risk flooding.
MeatPosicleIsDead
You sound like a practical engineering video and that makes me happy.
eclipse127
Best compliment I've had in a while.
SnorHEEdenRAden
Paying for a contractor that doesn't pull a permit and then having a couple of hefty lawsuits on your hand, smart move.
UserNamesArentEasy
I was just thinking this as I bet $20 there's no permit for it. Or out of spec of the permit.
PorneliusHubertII
I like that they planted trees that will later destroy all of that concrete. An idiot dreamt this up for sure.
ArthurT
And its "Ghetto."
datphone777365
Go on, explain.
ArthurT
If you are too lazy to mow the lawn, if you are too lazy to find low water alternatives, grasses, if you are too lazy to do anything but concrete ... "Concrete holds heat, which will make your house use lots more air conditioning. Do you want to sweat your back side off all summer?"
Ghetto.
datphone777365
Ghetto seems a pretty weird choice for a generalized description of lazy and dumb... Feels kinda dog whistlely and tbf given the current times im sure why some could see that.
Zuegma197777
He associates ghetto for laziness... Weird.
clarkWhogotsanity
That may not need a permit. Certain things can get by without needing permits oddly enough
SergeyPrkl
It still doesn't remove the responsibility not to flood neighbors.
ILike2TouchButts
As someone that works in residential zoning. Not everywhere requires specific permits for personal property. It varies state to state, and county to county. I'm in a super strict county. They could easily be pulled for a violation for this, and be ordered to remove all of this by the BZA, at cost to the home owner with repercussions on damages filed in court by the affected neighboring properties. Friends. Its easier to call your local county for guidance before you lose big on money.
teknrd
In my county this would result in a building code violation fine, stormwater fines, and in all likelihood a total removal of the new concrete at the homeowner's expense. In other words, it's a very expensive mistake. I agree with you that it's always best to call the county before you do stuff like this
LordScuttlebutt
I'm not sure it's a mistake as much as it is someone trying to get away with not telling the county. Lazy fuck just didn't want to cut grass.
ILike2TouchButts
Sometimes it is a mistake. A lot of the times it isn't. When it isn't... the board usually susses it out. My fave is when the applicant comes to a public hearing and either is the person that built something and or brought a qualified contractor. When the board tries to ask how much experience do you have in construction? And they respond in ## of years. They been caught out. Because my Board Member can't find a "no fault of the owner" when a professional should know to pull permits.
therealalansmithee
My next door neighbor built an addition the change his yard runoff onto my lot and when I complained to the county they said there’s no law against that.
eclipse127
Depending on where it is, there could be some nasty stormwater management fines. Adding this much concrete can impact how rain is handled is a much larger area than just his yard.
DeepFriedAndSanctified
Depending on where you live, this is absolutely legal under the "common enemy" rule.
Unclescam
I distinctly remember a house that hit their poured concrete limit (I didn't fully understand it all) and we had to build their walkway with bag mixed cement about an two inches thick.
Also, this house had a propane leak and the outdoor fireplace exploded and a large chunk of marble destroyed the guy's big toe.
gablestout
No way he'd get that permit where I live (greater Seattle Area). 0%. They'd make him rip it out. WAY too much impervious surface.
ButLogicallyTho
Wait so if i wanted a front yard that was all marble no grass, thats a no go?
Idontneedrealfacts
Solid slate marble or crumbled rocks?
eclipse127
In theory, he could have a stormwater detainment system to slowly feed the run off into the stormwater system. That being said, I highly doubt someone like this would spend that money. Honestly, if a plan like this came to me, there better be a good reason for that much concrete, or it's getting denied.
eclipse127
Also, they'd need to show how they plan to off set the phosphorus and other nutrients that the ground would normally absorb, but is now going into a stormwater system.
Tumescentpie
That seems like someone with too much money and zero understanding of how much of anything works.
And because of capitalism the contractor does this fucking horribly evil thing.
Fucking stupid all around.
notmyrealface
Cyberpunk
darkninja2992
Probably doesn't want to have to mow the lawn. Would be better off just going with a moss lawn or something
SirDalud
As ex-constriction guy... I've asked countless times from customers and stupid foremen "Are you serious?" And twice after first time. If hint is not taken "sign this, which says you take full responsibility." And added a zero to price. If I don't do it, some1 will.
ItsHardToBeatboxOnADigeridoo
Permit aside, if this guy wants to blow 40k to get sued, fafo.
thatsbadmmkay
This is illegal. The county can and will fuck their shit up.
Eiladar
Monetarily it's a one time investment, and given that nothing is properly graded, I'm guessing the contractor was a friend of a friend. As far as zero understanding, you're absolutely right. Beyond flooding their neighbors yards, if you look closely you can see the trees are sitting in a puddle of standing water; the cutouts are too small - best case scenario is that they all die of root rot. Alternately, if they survive the roots are going to tear through the surrounding pavement.
hipifreq
And the contractor won't even get a sternly worded letter. I never understand why they don't get their license pulled for doing work without a permit
WorthEveryPenny
No license required to pour concrete
Tumescentpie
Permits can be required by local municipalities. I have experience with concrete leveling (aka mud jacking) and have worked directly with many various townships, villages, and cities. Every one of them can be a little different in terms of what you need a permit for.
Flat work almost always requires a permit for a new pour and a few even require one for lifting it.
Any other questions that are phrased as incomplete sentences and/or incorrect statements?
hipifreq
The guy said he "paid $40k for the concrete work", which sounds like he paid someone who really should have known better
MarkoffChaney
Wow. That backyard has some serious fuck the nature -vibe going on.
RacecarIsRacecarBackwards
Those trees seem really cynical.
justfiguredoutimc4azyanddumbb
Maybe he's a sidewalk chalk enthusiast. Let's not assume things people. Jeez.
MaleProstateMilker88
Maybe they like getting baked in the summer heat.
IThrowLemons
So does a lawn though.
Howboutdempackers
So a lawn represents fuck bature equally as paving concrete over every square foot of ground? Nah ur just straw manning hard.
MarkoffChaney
Yeah. Instant lawns especially.
figuringeights
Concrete is worse no? At least lawn is doing the chlorophyling of the air stuff.
IThrowLemons
Sure, just saying that both have a serious fuck the nature -vibe, just that most people never even bat an eye about a lawn.
datphone777365
Ya getting dved but ya not wrong, its just that folks either dont know ya referring to the monoplant waste of space grass or depending on the location how water wasteful it is.
Goldmarble
To be fair? Grass is only water wasteful...if you water it. The only time my family's lawn got watered was when we as kids played with a sprinkler. Otherwise, we let it go dormant.
Course, this is on Vancouver Island, and our summers are not as long/brutal as others, and the grass survived dormancy...
LordSutter
Getting down voted because it's not an either/or option
IThrowLemons
Sadly it often seems to be exactly that in a suburban environment.
Howboutdempackers
Not only that, a lawn is still better than straight concrete. One is definitely less destructive than the other yet that commentor, like most redditors, only see in black and white and cant comprehend the gray area.