I'll just note that several of the SC all said they respected Roe v Wade during their confirmation hearings. This dickhead Marck apparently didn't get the memo that outright lying is not only allowed, but expected and even encouraged.
Or giving away how they plan to do it, probably some way that if time was given to stop it could be easily stopped.
Though he's done loads of stuff that's easily stopped and just plain illegal for free so I don't know why they're bothering. Fear, probably, they know it'll be too far for 30%-ish of the population if they're not halfway legal looking about it.
And we definitely can't let them use statements like that as implications of agreeing with the correct answer. "Trump was certified twice" doesn't explicitly deny "we will attempt to give him a third term."
Fucking SCOTUS proved this. "That's settled law" didn't explicitly say "we will not attempt overturn that settled law," so they overturned it.
They actually use certified to imply this is his third term already, because he won the last one and was elected by the people but not certified. Its why when they are asked who won the last one, they say Biden was certified and not that he won..
"No person shall be elected to the office of President more than twice." Maybe he does some Putin/Mendvedev crap, maybe (definitely) he straight up ignores the constitution, but he can't legally be elected again.
No, he couldnt. He was elected to the office of the president twice, ergo, he cannot be elected to the office of president a third time. For fucks sake, the text of the 22nd amendment is freely available online, how did you still get this so wrong
Because he knows there's going to be a serious push to get Trump on the ballot in 2028 using "they were non-consecutive terms" as their excuse. And we can't rule out SCOTUS agreeing in the slightest. I'm mean as this point SCOTUS is throwing away in some cases a century of precedent to rule in Trump's favor literally 1/4th of all rulings now.
I hear some of the dumbest people you'll ever meet amongst themselves saying "trump could actually run for a third term! The constitution allows it." It's like casual conversation and is the most common random shit I hear trumpers say(I live in a conservative strong hold in California.)
While I inherently doubt any Trump nominee's ability to serve in any given position, John Marck's response was sadly correct. As a prosecutor, not a Constitutional lawyer, he really should review the relevant subject matter before proffering an opinion. Furthermore a "plain text reading of the Constitution in the 22nd Amendment" only covers eligibility to run, not serve, as President for a third term. Trump is ineligible to be elected a third term, but he is still eligible to serve one. :-( ->
It doesn't help matters that the 22nd Amendment only explicitly covers the office of President while the 12th Amendment only covers eligibility to serve. Had the 22nd Amendment read that you could not run as VP after two terms as President or had the 12th Amendment said you could not run as Vice-President if you were ineligible to run as President we wouldn't be in this state. Frankly, I kinda want to see him try to run as VP just to see if the Democrats will try for Kamala/Obama in response.
What it actually says is: "No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once."
A lawyer with limited integrity (see anybody who's suing Trump for payment) could argue that if he ran as VP next time, and was promoted to the Presidency again when his 1/2
Trump would never run for VP, even to get around the rules. His narcissism prevents it. Having his name under another name in larger print offends his very being.
Reading is indeed hard. As much as I hate to say this, there is a difference between eligibility to run for President and eligibility to serve as President, and the 22nd Amendment only covers eligibility to run, not eligibility to serve for the office of Presidency, and the 12th Amendment only covers eligibility to serve in the office of Vice-Presidency. This is an actual loophole of sorts that leaves Trump both ineligible to run *and* eligible to *serve* a third term as President. ->
That last bit is barring any other Amendment or federal law other than the 12th and 22nd Amendments that people have not yet brought up which clearly prevent a two-term President from seeking office as Vice-President or serving in any role in the Presidential chain of succession. I have yet to see anyone bring such laws/Amendments up, but here's hoping something exists because by the "plain text" Trump can still get back in office with enough trumpery.
I don't know if Trump can run. I know that he can't be sworn in to the office and he cannot serve. If he's still alive at that point and he runs, there will be another Jan 6th to prevent the counting of the votes regardless of the election's outcome.
isthisjunkmail
barbarian818
I'll just note that several of the SC all said they respected Roe v Wade during their confirmation hearings. This dickhead Marck apparently didn't get the memo that outright lying is not only allowed, but expected and even encouraged.
OrkenMork
It's not because he doesn't KNOW the answer, it's he's trying to see if he can figure out any loopholes.
idiotsonfire
Every republican is a Nazi. Say it with me, everyone! Every! Republican! Is! A! NAZI!
androgenoide
You can't weasel out of that one without looking like a weasel.
agonarch
Or giving away how they plan to do it, probably some way that if time was given to stop it could be easily stopped.
Though he's done loads of stuff that's easily stopped and just plain illegal for free so I don't know why they're bothering. Fear, probably, they know it'll be too far for 30%-ish of the population if they're not halfway legal looking about it.
psmith00
he's not answering because they are working on a loophole to nullify that term limit. he cannot say what it is so he cannot answer the question.
modis
He’s not the only one. There are clips of several appointees refusing to give a straight answer, defaulting to “Trump was certified twice.”
IceWeaselX
And we definitely can't let them use statements like that as implications of agreeing with the correct answer. "Trump was certified twice" doesn't explicitly deny "we will attempt to give him a third term."
Fucking SCOTUS proved this. "That's settled law" didn't explicitly say "we will not attempt overturn that settled law," so they overturned it.
Someshithead241
They actually use certified to imply this is his third term already, because he won the last one and was elected by the people but not certified.
Its why when they are asked who won the last one, they say Biden was certified and not that he won..
nelllybellly1
This by itself ought be sufficient to disqualify him from being a judge at any level but especially at the federal level.
dontrike
They know, but if they were to answer that they wouldn't get the position.
BigHeadWeb
Make them answer a different question. Ask them if Obama could run for a third term.
Toqom
At this point, every Republican is a liability and shouldn't be allowed near law enforcement at all
TheMershedPerderder
Did they get approved anyway?
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BenjyX55
How?
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BenjyX55
"No person shall be elected to the office of President more than twice." Maybe he does some Putin/Mendvedev crap, maybe (definitely) he straight up ignores the constitution, but he can't legally be elected again.
jankyupeblik
He and little Jimmy could both be replaced by a person of congress' choosing at any moment.
epicfail48
No, he couldnt. He was elected to the office of the president twice, ergo, he cannot be elected to the office of president a third time. For fucks sake, the text of the 22nd amendment is freely available online, how did you still get this so wrong
EroticZombiePants
Because he knows there's going to be a serious push to get Trump on the ballot in 2028 using "they were non-consecutive terms" as their excuse. And we can't rule out SCOTUS agreeing in the slightest. I'm mean as this point SCOTUS is throwing away in some cases a century of precedent to rule in Trump's favor literally 1/4th of all rulings now.
Dracology
last I checked the 22nd doesn't say the terms have to be consecutive it just says elected twice.
Tylurker
Yes, but what does the word "twice" mean, exactly. If we look at the etymology... /s
Dannyalcatraz
Partisan hacks, the lot of them. Unfit.
HowlingRollercoaster2
Did anyone else notice the nominees in that hearing all looked like they were wearing poorly fitted human skin suits?
davebarton315101
Because they were!
cmdshift3
Yes. I commented on it but didn’t get any replies. That one dude looks like the insectoid in a human suit from MiB
Jamesstin
I hear some of the dumbest people you'll ever meet amongst themselves saying "trump could actually run for a third term! The constitution allows it." It's like casual conversation and is the most common random shit I hear trumpers say(I live in a conservative strong hold in California.)
Kyzyl
Marikhen
While I inherently doubt any Trump nominee's ability to serve in any given position, John Marck's response was sadly correct. As a prosecutor, not a Constitutional lawyer, he really should review the relevant subject matter before proffering an opinion. Furthermore a "plain text reading of the Constitution in the 22nd Amendment" only covers eligibility to run, not serve, as President for a third term. Trump is ineligible to be elected a third term, but he is still eligible to serve one. :-( ->
Marikhen
It doesn't help matters that the 22nd Amendment only explicitly covers the office of President while the 12th Amendment only covers eligibility to serve. Had the 22nd Amendment read that you could not run as VP after two terms as President or had the 12th Amendment said you could not run as Vice-President if you were ineligible to run as President we wouldn't be in this state. Frankly, I kinda want to see him try to run as VP just to see if the Democrats will try for Kamala/Obama in response.
TripUpStairs
Holy shit! We are so fucked.
Maviyakuku
You are soo fucked America.
Isthe4thtimethecharm
Sadly we will likely bring the rest of the world down with us.
Grendels2dCousinOnceRemoved
What it actually says is: "No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once."
A lawyer with limited integrity (see anybody who's suing Trump for payment) could argue that if he ran as VP next time, and was promoted to the Presidency again when his 1/2
Grendels2dCousinOnceRemoved
2/2 shill resigned, then implicitly he could serve one more term. It's right there in the Constitution: 22nd Amendment. Sauce: https://constitutionus.com/constitution/full-text/
DukeDarkwood
Trump would never run for VP, even to get around the rules. His narcissism prevents it. Having his name under another name in larger print offends his very being.
Marikhen
Reading is indeed hard. As much as I hate to say this, there is a difference between eligibility to run for President and eligibility to serve as President, and the 22nd Amendment only covers eligibility to run, not eligibility to serve for the office of Presidency, and the 12th Amendment only covers eligibility to serve in the office of Vice-Presidency. This is an actual loophole of sorts that leaves Trump both ineligible to run *and* eligible to *serve* a third term as President. ->
Marikhen
That last bit is barring any other Amendment or federal law other than the 12th and 22nd Amendments that people have not yet brought up which clearly prevent a two-term President from seeking office as Vice-President or serving in any role in the Presidential chain of succession. I have yet to see anyone bring such laws/Amendments up, but here's hoping something exists because by the "plain text" Trump can still get back in office with enough trumpery.
MotoCanuck
Obama 3rd term, you say?
BananaForScaIe
He already had that, when Biden was "President" /s
newsguycraigevans
According to the gutless weasels being questioned that is apparently still within the realm of possibility.
Grendels2dCousinOnceRemoved
Maybe they should ask him this. Bet he could give an answer then!
dynamojoe
I don't know if Trump can run. I know that he can't be sworn in to the office and he cannot serve. If he's still alive at that point and he runs, there will be another Jan 6th to prevent the counting of the votes regardless of the election's outcome.
Jandegrote
Oh he can't be sworn in? who is gonna stop him?
EricAirheart
They also said he couldn't gun the voting act, but he did.
xmaneds
*gut
EricAirheart
Jfc, you know what I meant.
CptCronos
I'll be real, as a canadian only vaguely following what is going on, I appreciated the clarification.
rydecker
semantics....you may be correct...this could be the core of the hot mess we will be facing