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https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/542846-texas-state-rep-introduces-bill-to-set-minimum-teacher-salary-at-70k
Mar 13, 2021 10:00 PM
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https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/542846-texas-state-rep-introduces-bill-to-set-minimum-teacher-salary-at-70k
DrunkPrinny
That’s it? Teachers deserve more!
Whyureadbro
Teacher should have some more prestige as an occupation. This will happen as societies become more advanced over time
BreakTheCode
Did he do it because he knows it won’t pass?
MelodyLightfoot
If this bill passes these people will be making more than me as an I.T. Admin... and I hope to fuck it passes.
certainlynotaserialkiller
And once the GOP sees it it will be drawn and quarterd.
NAbsentia
can we have literate, educated teachers for that price? Because Texas is really low on those. For decades.
DoYouWantMeToReadThat
Answering multiple questions from the comments:
DoYouWantMeToReadThat
Rep. Talarico is a democrat from Round Rock (Austin area). He is a former teacher and his whole platform was based on education reform.
DoYouWantMeToReadThat
While this will most likely not pass, he will continue to push for it. It's one of the reasons I voted for him.
EndiaTheMisanthropist
rubberbear
Its what happened with university professors and adjuncts. Youd get a few “real” teachers and then a cloud of underpaid adjuncts
rubberbear
The only solution is to make adjuncts illegal basically. Otherwise as always exploitation finds a way
eddbrowne
Maybe pay could be adjusted based on student scores on independent testing.
iMcFly
UK works on a points system for funding schools based on student scores. As such, some schools have been rumoured to cheat.
Lanabear110
As someone who used to teach, that's wildly unfair to teachers who have weaker classes. And then those kids just never get good teachers?
Lanabear110
Or those teachers would only teach to that test, which shady happens to an extent. I taught math the right way, but ty my seniors who needed
Lanabear110
To pass test to graduate, I taught them calculator tricks to get them through the test only. That would happen over & over = no knowledge
AustraliaTellsItHowItIs
Exactly. I'm afraid some children are just not that intelligent. Simple fact is half of them are below average. The goal should be to 1/?
trippingthelightfantastic
Would they required to teach a faith-based curriculum?
Hillmon
for 70k im sure they wont care either way
MagicalHamFlaps
my thought was that they would require teachers to rent classroom time and pay utilities from their salary
Trunkwhiskey
"we have made all teachers independant sub contractors to make all of our problems, their problems. you're welcome"- somebody's "great" idea
StarscreamAndHutch
DVSBSTrD
And abstinence only sex education.
RadicalLeftist
It was a democrat so no
Slixxerman
If this actually passed then teachers would flock to texas like cops to a newly opened donut shop
yallmfsneedjesus
And people wlin related fields would get eaching certificates by the buttload.
iwantmytwodollars
Gotta pass the state test to be a teacher in Texas.
MrWiggleBottom
Unpopular opinion, but higher salary should definitely mean better teachers.
LeftistCoastalElite
I agree with your opinion.
123idrinkpeee
Definitely higher morale, if nothing else, which is important for productivity.
cosmicoccurence
I mean, you're making it a more competitive position compared to other jobs, so you'll get more qualified candidates
WeMistbornsNeedNotMakeSense
Well at the very least, it means more people are considering teaching career now that they can earn a living wage
HighFunctioningAlcoholic
While I'm definitely not argue to argue $70K isn't too high, teachers would flock to TX. Now the issue of firing the had ones...
MrWiggleBottom
ToastyMozart
Yeah, currently the only reasons to teach are to make a martyr of yourself or because you can't do anything else.
dennydorko
Yeah, that's an unpopular opinion. Govt jobs seem to be the one part of the economy where people think low pay will get you better workers.
GodtheFather
They should also get a state funded credit card for class supplies.
UncleMeaty
Class supplies should be supplied by the school, not the teacher.
GodtheFather
Thats, what I said?
UncleMeaty
The teacher shouldn't be fucking buying anything. Why would the teacher need a credit card?
BurberryBlessings
70k in TX seems like I would have become wealthy.
RXJ235231
I wonder if they set it that high because they're expecting to be talked down to what they're realistically hoping for.
BronkLuonk
70,000 is the average starting salary of an engineer straight out of a bachelor's. Seems at least a little high.
BronkLuonk
Source: https://www.zippia.com/advice/average-salary-out-of-college/
Sionas
Introduces bill lol. These click bait headlines are bs. This bill has the same chances of passing as Hong Kong being free of China.
tbagginyourmom
Better chance of getting a box of twinkies away from Rosie O'Donnell.
13579rocket
As a teacher (who would like a 70k salary), I agree. I won’t believe it’s happening until it’s being signed into law by the governor.
particledecay
Also I feel, if this passes, they’ll just reclassify a teacher position to be unobtainable for the average teacher
aintnothinbutahounddog28
Yes its better to never try or even acknowledge there is an issue. How dare anyone in government suggest something BEFORE they know it's
erischilde
Except this is exactly what republicans do with anti abortion laws on a regular basis: make noise, introduce, rile up, fail.
aintnothinbutahounddog28
100% supported and will definitely be enacted into law?!! Better to do nothing and anonymously insult online anyone that tries to help
jery007
70k for 10 months would be a sweet starting salary. I've got 16 years under the belt and I hit 75 a few years ago
smokeyfantastico
Texas lawmaker is tired of dumb fuck citizens and trying to attract better teachers
AntiProtonBoy
Ojay1349
Let's hope they start with some sex ed and stop demanding the death penalty over women's health.
iwannaspeaktothemgr
Nah. His daughter or wife is a teacher.
corndude101
He used to be a teacher. He said coworkers were killing themselves working full time as teachers and then another job too trying to live.
morelikeconsham
Those are not mutually exclusive. It's easy to cry foul and say they are just trying to enrich family members, but just maybe their family
morelikeconsham
Has a history of valuing educators, and that would be a very good thing.
minniemousz
As a person in the school system... I hope ALL staff and not just teachers are included.
cosmicoccurence
Want to know how to get qualified teachers in your classroom? This is it
ilovedogknots
Texas?!!!?!??!!
DisillusionedMe
I am suspicious of anything positive Texas politicians promote.
moistsox
Can texas’s power grid even support teachers?
cravingprogress
yeah my guess was Democrat bbefore reading the story...
VernonTWalldrip
Being a Democrat in Austin is kinda like being in the 101st airborne camp in Bastogne.
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HeroThatWasNeeded
Likely won't pass. Also charter schools are becoming a bit too common.
Gandalfsuglybrother
NUTS!
ochermes28
Hardly. The Democrats outnumber Republicans by a substantial number in Austin.
Bearjahud
We're mostly blue here in EP so your simile is still apt. Islands, baby.
Cognition
Emerican Psamoa?
HeroThatWasNeeded
El Paso you nancy
TsubakiTragic
I have no clue... but sounds, confronting.
crushingbore
Crack of the lightning splitting the ground
cjjt71200
THUNDER IS SOUNDING, ARTILLERY POUNDING
IseeWhatyouDidThere87
They do have us surrounded. We've got em right where we want them :)
ScienceIsNotALiberalConspiracy
You have the trailer parks of south west KY to look forward to when done killing Nazis?
QuackWok
Behind enemy lines? Not sure I get it but that would make total sense
JayshushMcGush
Bastogne was the the stand of the 101st during the battle of the bulge in ww2. Surrounded by Germans and all but cutoff from reinforcements
KommissarLyus
nuts
QuackWok
I can't even nor want to imagine.... how insanely terrifying that must have been. Surrounded by German engineering... nothanks
QuackWok
Who were our allies holding ground? Never heard of that battle
QuackWok
Sorry...the 101st... Americans? I'm completely ignorant about warfare
JayshushMcGush
On the western flank at that time, it was the US, British and Canadians. The battle of the bulge was the Germans last major offensive in the
JayshushMcGush
Western. They almost punched through allied lines by Christmas of 44, but the 101st held their ground in Bastogne as the allies rallied.
DVSBSTrD
Currahee!
refreshingidrops
Currahee!
akaRustyShackleford
Three miles up! Three miles down!
JdrummerG
HIGH HHHHOOOOO SILVERRRRR
Matty3D
I like spaghetti.
Saphrona6
It's not spaghetti, it's army noodles with ketchup
chefchris357
That's nice. It'll never happen, but nice.
codepink2303
I propose that teachers get paid what Senators get and vice versa.
wargames
won't pass.
cpcgamer
Alright texas you raggedy bitch, what's your angle here...
The0netrueBob
The one who introduced the bill will likely vote against it. Knowing their fan based wont care/be told that fact.
exlurker42
It'll never pass, he just wants to say he tried and the bad guys killed it. Didn't even bother to write any funding into it.
Aelok
Headline sensationalism is real. All he needed to do was minimum effort to brag on his efforts later :/
SoraHjort
less teachers, larger class room sizes. just as many chairs and tables!
rukeman
Seriously, are you sure it's Texas?
grapesofwrath1120
It’s ALWAYS Texas with this kind of government BS. I’m a Texan and I love my state, but we elect such greedy, lying, myopic idiots. Arrrgh!
linalamontsvoice
The lawmaker is James Talarico, Democrat from Round Rock (Austin suburb). He used to be a teacher in San Antonio.
ibrokemyselflmao
Now he gets amazing round rock donuts
kmikl
Democrat representative, actually values education.
ExtraAverage
Similar measures have been proposed by republicans with the caveat that funding wouldn't change, meaning districts would be forced to either
ExtraAverage
hike property taxes or lay off tons of teachers.
DonnaSelf
I live here and wondered the same thing.
ChalkCoatedDonut
They will pass their laws against mail voting and pro dictatorship under this bill so they get them approved all together.
SlagathorDeb
As a teacher in Texas, it's a great idea but will never pass. Have you seen what those people in charge of TX have done lately? Yeah, nah.
UmamiMama
One year later...
yingjun
teachers have to teach that Texas is heaven, and all other places are poor and evil.
varonicaED
The lawmaker was a Democrat! That's the angle. If Dems keep proposing bills that help ordinary people, and the Republican's 1/2
varonicaED
keep blocking them maybe even Texan's will start seeing who the bad guys really are?
DeepFriedFrenchTart
Gotta teach the kids 'bout guns and jeezus
DarPhyve
200 student classrooms.
CptRobotNinja
Am Texas...have no idea
somnif
All schools now entirely staffed by "Instructional Specialists" , rather than teachers. (That's my job title, funny enough....)
bekindtoanimals
HA!
Mrbrown512
They’re probably gonna strip a bunch of history classes and force history teachers to teach the Q timeline
LiteralFish
But of course they'll still teach about the civil war, but they'll call it the "war of northern aggression."
METROlD
We have so little faith in texas it's sad.
EMTsaidwhat
No benefits probably
Branch68
Probably packed with other terms and conditions like hanging people is allowed or some shit
whatcouldgowrong
they will make teaching even worse, to where the job basically only attracts cops
Vacationdad
There are a lot of us here trying to fight for a better Texas, sadly we get held up by gerrymandering and idiots
StorytellingSalem
People fighting the good fight where states need em. You doing the same for yours?
TheHoleStretcher3000
Looks to be Texas Democrats, let's see if Republicans pass this.
comehomefransbrauder
Yep it's a dem. As usual. Won't pass sadly. I hate by govt.
TheHoleStretcher3000
I hope it shows that Republicans don't actually care about the people. Most Republicans are too brain washed tho realize this.
Flortzweich
RadicalLeftist
It was a democrat
Mr21782Man
The real answer. They know it'll never pass but its useful for political points.
MyDixyRect
RIP bill
slowbutstillfurious
This will never pass, but it's really nice to see that *one* state lawmaker gives a shit
Jusmar
Same number of lawmakers that proposed succession
SomeScienceGuy
Exactly what I was thinking
gluttonygreedpridewrathslothlustenvy
Bet it would pass if it was cop minimum salary instead
allthenamesaregone
Not every Texan representative is a people-hating Republican?
BrazilianThunderPanda
No that’s not it...
MagicalHamFlaps
just the majority
StarscreamAndHutch
For the moment.
allthenamesaregone
When they keep blocking legislation like this, you'd hope people would start to figure out they're just being cunts on purpose...
corndude101
Oh no. Many people here think public schools should close down or that teachers should be paid WAY less. Last Spring when the pandemic 1/
MagicalHamFlaps
Republican voters don't care, they drink the koolaid of all that bad stuff they do is really the other guy making them do it
scottEkarate
He's from either Houston, Dallas, Austin, San Antonio, or El Paso...this bill has a 0% chance
FellaWithUmbrella
Williamson County so Austin.
yourlostcarkey
Austin is in Travis Co.
sarabear
Austin area. Few of the burbs are in WilCo. I used to live in one of them, Cedar Park :)
corndude101
Austin is Travis county. He’s from Round Rock.
comacomacomacomachameleon
"he's likely from one of the cities that make up >90% of the state's population" - thank you statistics wizard
KenpachiJiraiya
Those cities counties are only about 13 mil including fort worth's county which is less than half
scottEkarate
No problem. Anytime. Thanks for not being s sarcastic asshole
comacomacomacomachameleon
It was my pleasure. I hope we can do this again sometime.
ChokingApples
It’s nice seeing members of this community being so sincere to one another.
Lynkfox
Hrs probably from Austin.
corndude101
He’s from Round Rock, which is outside of Austin a ways. A good 20-40 minute drive.
kitenkatt
Maybe dallas, were going thru a huge change up here...
tiaaaa123
Democrat lawmaker from Austin, you guessed it!!
TheBeyonder3191
Or Houston.
LeftRightThere
That’s my first thought too. I’m not from Texas but I know a bit about how Texas has tried to keep Austin from “influencing” the rest of TX
Armored0Titan0
Except for the mask off segregation where they keep all the minorities on one side of the interstate.
gorillaClutch
The reason why people keep claiming Texas is "purple" is because almost all of the major cities skew Democrat. But outside that is red land
SirShmoopyofAwesomtown
Imaging being so against another party that you don't want the people who teach your children to live better. Or anyone for that matter
LeftRightThere
That’s just the voters, the legislators send their kids to private schools with better paid teachers unaware of the correlation
corndude101
Actually, in Texas Private school teachers usually aren’t paid as well as public school teachers.
yallmfsneedjesus
70k with 3 months and all holidays off? Guess I'll be getting my teaching certificate in TX. I'm a nurse with Master's.
T0go
yes you've got the idea now
yallmfsneedjesus
Yep. Too bad alot of current teachers and those coming out of school wont be able to get a job due to people like me.
brownribbon
Good! We need more smart teachers! Best of luck!
cosmicoccurence
Get excited! Just fyi that you'll be working quite a bit outside your school hours, so if you don't like bringing work home, don't teach
AlphaVirus2g
Exactly! Your looking at an effective hourly rate of $45/hr, or nearly $100k if they actually worked 12 months like everyone else.
UncleMeaty
But unless they get another job during the summer, they're still just getting paid $70k a year. They just get more vacation than most.
cosmicoccurence
I work 6am-4pm most days, plus 1-2 hours after dinner, and usually 4-6 each week. Redo your math
AlphaVirus2g
So, you are saying the base pay is not the issue...its the average hours over 40/wk?
Rimeswithorange
Get the fuck out with that nonsense. On average, teachers work more hours per annum than your average 40/week job. They also make an average
AlphaVirus2g
12mo-2wk vacation=2k hrs. 9mo=1,560hrs. 2k-1,560=440hrs. 440hrs/yr overtime? Can you back the claim teachers work more hours per year?
Rimeswithorange
Of 25k less than those in private sector jobs with similar education. Do the research.
AlphaVirus2g
The average salary for school teachers is $60k https://www.bls.gov/careeroutlook/2020/article/mobile/education-level-and-openings.htm#s4
AlphaVirus2g
According to BLS "Each of the occupations in table 4 had wages that were higher than the median for all occupations".