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So is the frustration that they hired a plus sized model who people would elect to fuck? Is plus sized a code word for unhealthy/ugly now?

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

She is 6'4'' she is definetly plus sized.

8 years ago | Likes 23 Dislikes 10

I def could see her being considered plus size...why is everyone so sensitive?

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Shes fucking gorgeous! People are so fucked

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

No ones saying she isn’t

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Plus sized does not mean fat with rolls all over

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Maybe...just maybe....plus size doesn't mean fat. The girl is well above 6 foot

8 years ago | Likes 25 Dislikes 17

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8 years ago (deleted Jan 4, 2018 7:56 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

I have worked with my fair share of professional models to know that most of them have or will develop an eating disorder. 1/2

8 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

Every single one has been super smart girls, but fallen under pressure. Fuck the fashion industry and their standards.

8 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

I like woman that got curves.

8 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 4

And I love the Republic

8 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

And I can't believe it's not butter!

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

I've never been to Denmark!

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Got Milk?

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I shot the sheriff! …but I did NOT shoot that deputy!

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

This isn't Cosmo judging her to be plus sized, this is literally her job title and the industry designation. GL changing an entire industry

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

I'd rather just see more body types being shown in ads. I get what everyone is saying here, I'm just more for impulsivity. Less airbrushing.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Inclusivity is a word, phone. Come on, don't play me like this.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I gotta say, call her whatever the fuck you want, it's refreshing to see a woman who looks like me (but like, better still) rocking a swim

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Suit on a cover. As an average person, which the modeling world usually does not represent at all, it's nice to see.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Unpopular opinion but whilst I would NEVER call her a "plus sized woman", she is very clearly a "plus sized model". Context is key.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Size 12 IS plus size. I only know because I attempted plus modeling about 10 years ago. 12 and up is plus. Her height isnt the issue.

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

I know right? She looks great. Better than the models that show too many bones making you wish they'd be prescribed a few cheese-burgers.

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

As a counter point, if the model identifies as “plus sized” and that’s how she reaches her audience should we allow her that right?

8 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 4

Of course.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Honey, my measurements are 54-36-56. I AM plus size. That chick isnt. #lotsofmetolove

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

that's not the issue - the issue is that we need to stop reading cosmopolitan in general

8 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Pushing stories & ideas which fuel destructive thoughts then publishing "solutions" to those problems makes these rags lots of money, sadly.

8 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 4

True, the same could be said for the "health at any size" people

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

okay. I agree with the message but... doesn't her head look really small?

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

She's 6'4", guy. Her body is just bigger.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

They're probably calling her that because she used to look like this: /a/LleDw">https://imgur.com/a/LleDw and this: https://imgur.com/a/yKq6g

8 years ago | Likes 24 Dislikes 5

That's only a little extra chub. Still seems average to me

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

Her proportions are fit. But she’s 6’2”, so she’s an objectively huge female at any weight.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 4

Amazing to me how often stating objectively true facts gets downvoted here.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Are you trying to tell us you think those pictures are of a plus sized woman?

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 6

It's large for a model, and large for a woman. It's not fat for her size. Obese isn't plus-sized, fat isn't normal.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

Neither of which seem plus sized, though. At least not to me.

8 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 11

It's objectively overweight.

8 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 5

how is she "objectively overweight" neither of these pictures show her weight

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 3

You can look at someone and see that they are fat.

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 4

I guess, but what's that have to do with the subject?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

Of course she's not a fat lady, but can we not make like "plus sized = ugly whale" while making the terminology complaint?

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 2

It's sad when the models representing plus size women are not plus size, and those for average women are unhealthily thin. I'm not saying 2/

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 3

All plus sizes are healthy sizes but it is possible to be beautiful at above average sizes, and healthy at 14-16 depending on your frame.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

This woman could very well be plus size (14) given her height.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

She's 12, and that makes her closer to underweight than overweight. That's absurd to call plus size.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Plus size stores start at size 14 that's all I'm saying. Altering my view a little here, but others are right in saying +size is just 1/2

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

She's about a foot taller than an average woman, maybe plus sized isn't code for fat?

8 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 5

Plus size is not code for fat, but fat people think it is.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Have you ever shopped for women's clothing before?

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

But I thought men were the ones who decided women body standards

8 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 10

Because all men are pigs and will only fuck women with thigh gaps...riiiight.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 8

Men fuck. There are no limiting factors except what their friends/family would say if they found out

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 7

You seem confused and defensive; saying that men set beauty standards for women is not the same as saying all men are pigs.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

If you do it right every woman should have a thigh gap ;)

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Dieting for thigh gaps always seemed unhealthy to me. Besides, I personally prefer thicker thighs. Hell, my first gf played volleyball.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

everyone is saying she's plus sized because she's tall doesnt really know how women's clothing works: plus sized clothes start at size 16 1/

8 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

(well 16 in most cases, it can vary brand to brand) and models are usually considered plus sized once they get into double digit sizes, 2/?

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

and there's a huge difference between the two and THAT'S what people are upset about. Model plus size vs real life plus size 3/3

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

also yes the term plus sized can mean tall, but literally never does

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

So it can but "literally never", sounds like you don't know what "literally" means because THE IMAGE.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Lane Bryant is probably the most popular plus sized clothing company, and their size chart starts at 10. She's a size 12. Seems fine to me.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Because it's pointless for a company to lock itself into *only* larger sizes and lose the rest of the market. The point of being a plus- 1/

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

They call all of their sizes plus sized, and if they wanted the rest of the market share, they'd offer sizes below 10.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

size company is just that they do them at *all*. The 10s are not plus sizes - for an average height woman, that's closer to underweight 2/

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

than overweight. That *cannot* be plus-size. 3/3

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

But thats a plus sized 'model' not a plus sized standard person. The modelling world has different standards to everyday life

8 years ago | Likes 102 Dislikes 17

Her size is in the positives! AKA greater than zero. Regular models are negative sized.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Well, she is 6'4"

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Which leads us to the question, “why is that?”

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

and that is why pr shouldn't use industry lingo.

8 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 2

Yeah but they also label women who have a more than healthy portion of fat as a plus size model.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

yes but that is still messed up

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

True. I think the outrage comes from the fact that this lingo inevitably gives people the wrong idea about what a standard size should be.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

You'd expect clothing models to be people who can model what clothes look like on people.

8 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 2

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8 years ago (deleted Oct 12, 2022 4:05 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

Totally. But people are getting fed up with that. And a car stuck in traffic is at least not warping ideas on what a car should be like.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Most clothing designers seem to make clothes for shapeless waifs. As if though they were more interested in prepubescent boys than women?

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Well, yeah. That's what people are unhappy about though. That models, modelling clothes for regular people, don't remotely represent them.

8 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 4

A model's job isn't to show you what a fat American eating a deep fried twinkie will look like in a bikini, but show the bikini at its best.

8 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 17

I thought it was to show off clothes and help a company play off peoples insecurities to help sell more units.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

If anything it hurts them more. Can imagine how much more items would be sold if everyone felt confident buying certain types of clothes?

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

A bikini at it's best should be a bikini looking good on a range of models. Not necessarily the unhealthy extremes of the spectrum, but a

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 5

This is a crazy concept, but attractive people will always look better in clothes than less attractive people.

8 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 2

Yeah, but you can get someone who is attractive who is not plastic barbie copy. Clean skin, nice hair, symmetrical face, maybe something

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 5

Range of body shapes still, and without labelling one better or worse than the others. It really isn't that difficult.

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

But... by definition a model's job is to display clothes (that a standard person is to wear). So the standards should be exactly the same.

8 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 10

Yup

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Lol have you ever watched a fashion show? No standard person would ever wear any of that shit.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

hahah... excellent point.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

No she supposed to look the best in those clothes

8 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 1

Okay but if those same clothes look worse on us normal people, wouldn't we want clothes which look the best on US?

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

With as much marketing research as is done, I suspect if that were true it would be done. People buy what they want to be, not what they are

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

That's a good point :)

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

No because the human brain is useless garbage that doesn't think like that it goes "she looks good I will too"

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

She is litteraly a massive woman. The problem is society views "plus size" as a synonym for fat instead of what it actually is... a large.

8 years ago | Likes 216 Dislikes 20

Because Odin forbid you name a clothing section "fat women"

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 4

Yeah, I could tell she was a 'big' woman by her head and shoulder/hip proportions. Still a fox of course, but just tall.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Actually we have a word for that, though. It's 'tall'.

8 years ago | Likes 25 Dislikes 13

In women's clothing the word is plus size.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

I wonder why that is? Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that 'plus size' has been fashion code for fat for a long time.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

She's my bloody height and they are shitting on her for it. Not cool.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Because she's like 6'4"

8 years ago | Likes 50 Dislikes 2

should've put a banana next to her

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I don't see that as a bad thing

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

This has nothing to do with your giantess fetish. It has to do with the definition literally making her "plus size" compared to average.

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

Good point. Plus size does seem to be a pretty broad term.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Yeah, just a definition/word-use issue imo. If they'd said 'tall' or whatever no one probably would have bat an eye.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Because women's plus sized clothes do not cater to tall people. There's no variation in length between plus sized and regular sizes, just a

8 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 1

This is definitely not the case with the womans clothing we sell. A size up is larger in every direction. Just like with mens or kids clothe

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Until you get to plus sizes. That's why women's clothes have a long or tall sizing as well and offer petite sizes.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Like I said, definitely not the case with the clothing we sell.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

What clothing do you sell? Because I'm 5'5 and a size 2 and a size 8 is no longer on me than a size 2 in any brand.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Larger width, which obviously is to accommodate fatter people.

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

What's wrong with the word "tall" instead, then? Avoids any misunderstanding.

8 years ago | Likes 28 Dislikes 10

What's wrong with "fat" then? We live in the age of censorship where everyone's offended by everything, gotta get used to doublespeak

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

Not everyone that is tall is also broad or curvy.

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

She's 6'4 and a size 12. If a guy is that big he also needs to shop at the "Big and Tall" stores for their version of plus sized. Stupidity.

8 years ago | Likes 2612 Dislikes 91

I give her a B+, b/c you know, fatty

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

The one thing all us tall folk can agree on, regardless of race/creed/whatever, fuck airlines. 1 size fits all economy bullshit.

8 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 1

Ex. Levi's jeans for men's go up to 42 inches & then you're "big & tall". In women's, it's only 33 inches & then you're "plus size".

8 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Maybe the term "Plus Sized" needs to change, since it apparently confuses so many people. Still... she has 50+ lb and 6" on me...

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

This should be a lesson in proportions. She is not fat, she's beautiful AND she's big. Amazons need big clothes

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I was literally like: "she looks like a damn giant. She is probably plus sized." And why the hell do people fall apart so easily?

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 6

See that's what I thought was the case. She's not 'plus sized' how we think of them, she's in the weight class sort of. Honest mistake on >>

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

Hmm, that is unusually tall but you can't really tell that just from this photo, except that her head looks maybe proportionally a bit small

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

"This is it? If this is all you got, why's it say 'Big and Tall' on the sign?" "Big and Tall. You need 'Bigger and Taller." -The Blind Side

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I'm 6'7". I used to hit those door hinges in my high school all the time. I still reflexively duck under doors. https://imgur.com/J20qpqt

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Bingo bango bongo. Women need a Big and Tall store as well. And yes, just call it fucking Big and Tall. They're just words folks.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Fffffuck that's hot.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Gotta say even as a formerly overweight guy big and tall or husky was less offensive then plus size lol

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

As a 6’4” guy... shopping is a bitch, oh you’re y’all? Here’s everything we have in 3xl.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

She was size 14 in the past, if not larger. Regardless I still couldn't find any images where it seems suitable to really call her plus-size

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Models are supposed to be a specific size. If you're bigger than that you're "plus sized" even if you're skinny and just tall.

8 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 2

I remember seeing a tumblr post on here about "you never see or hear about plus sized male model" & had to sit & think how true that is.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

As a guy that's 6'8 and wears a size 15, I'm taking a shit right now and can't really comment, but YEAH!

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I'm 6'6 and fairly large, I do need the big and tall section. Normal clothes don't fit.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I'm 6'6 and I do fine in normal stores. This is in Norway though. We big.

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Male or female?

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Yes.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Tru dat. From Scotland but have a Norwegian mother, and as someone who is just barely over 6 foot, I am tall in Scotland, average in Norway.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Well 6'4 IS tall, not problem with that...

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

google tells me shes 6'2"? and yeah, basically she clearly has a very wide bone structure. a guy equivalent would be B&T for sure

8 years ago | Likes 26 Dislikes 8

An equivalent guy would be about 6'8" or the same height as Lebron James

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

seems to me its like calling Jason Momoa fat... yeah, not really.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Models are required to be tall, though.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Is “Amazon Sized” a thing? ... Should t be?

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

For a minute I thought you meant Amazon (the site) needs to introduce their own size and I didn't find that odd at all

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Big and Tall? I'm 6'4" and 12.5 shoe size. I take a US men's large and 34x34 pants. Kindly adjust your perception of big and tall

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

Sure, sure.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

women's plus size clothing stores start normally at a UK size 14/16 so that's your argument down the drain.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Oh, so you're accounting for her height as well? There's your argument down the drain.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Eh? Height isn't considered when it comes to plus size in plus size stores, so......that's my point.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

6'4" is in the 99.999 percentile for American women. Most people will never meet a woman that tall.

8 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 1

I dated a woman that tall. I wore boots a lot.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

It's OOK - Most people will never meet an American either

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

I'm pretty sure they're all in the Midwest because I knew a fee.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

I have but my social circle overlapped with the volleyball team.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Wait few decades and it might not be that rare, as average lengths are growing :)

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

my dreams are now crushed :(

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Dude, just go to a WNBA game.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

ha ha , okay ^.^ xD

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I'm 6'4 and 205. No I do not have to go to a big and tall store. Those are for obese ppl

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

No, that's where you go to buy shirts with sleeves long enough and that can fully tuck in without worrying they'll come out with every move.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

6'4 is obviously much bigger than normal though

8 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 3

Much taller* not bigger

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Big and "Tall"

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Not really for a model though. The average female model is about 6'1"

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

I doubt the average model is size 12 though

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

They're not, theyre 0-4. that's what makes her "Plus sized".

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yes I know that's why I said it was bigger than average

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Well 6'4" is tall..

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

She's tall for sure, but plus size clothing is only wider not taller.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I don't get the wired way you guys measure things, can someone tell me how tall is 6'4 in the real world? (metric system)

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 3

1.93 meters tall

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Google could have quicker than it took you to type that.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

I was gonna say she looks to be extremely tall just based on her proportions. But it's still a stupid label—ignorant of the status quo.

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

It's like saying "we need more coffee in the break room" "Well I've got decaf- it's technically coffee!"

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

No quicker way turn an entire room against you. I suspect a fair amount of workplace violence has been caused by decaf coffee.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

At that height she's certainly "plus-sized" in a technical sense but not at all in the way that term is widely expected to be used.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

My arse. I'm 6 ft 3 and basically about her build and I don't need a big & tall

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

How are you 6 ft 3 if you are legless?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Very long torso. It's all about proportions!

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Are you a man? Because I'm a 5'9" woman and I need the tall section.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

You’re... a guy.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

Reread the comment this is in reply to

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

I’m an idiot. Thanks.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

That is correct

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Plus size in women’s clothing is not big and tall. It is strictly wider. Tall woman have to find brands that offer a tall version of reg.

8 years ago | Likes 130 Dislikes 11

As a 6'2" skinny guy. I feel your pain. Large is too short but XL just gets fatter, not longer.

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

It’s not as bad for me I’m not super tall, but it’s still not easy) but my cuz, who I grew up with is 6’3” and it’s awful for her.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yeah, I know two 5'10" girls and they complain about finding clothes. 6'3" holy cow that's gotta be hard to find clothes.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yeah, clothes and shoes, she was 6’ and had size 11 feet at 11yo, so self conscious, I felt awful for her. But she’s beautiful so that helps

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Fuck u Cosmo. I'm 5'9", weigh 135lbs, and wear a size 10-12. How in the fuck am I considered plus sized?

8 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 4

Well you arent fat if thats what you are worried about

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I believe in high fashion plus sized starts at an 8 because they won't fit in sample sizes which are usually 0-4

8 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

I'm honestly asking a question here. Is that weight healthy?

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

even though charts would say otherwise

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Depends on build. I'm 5'9", 165 (same height, 30lbs heavier) and also a 10/12, also within a healthy BMI. *shrug* Bodies, man.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It's a little skinny, tbh. I'm 5'2", my ideal weight should be around 125-130. I won't tell you what I weigh, but it ain't healthy atm.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Definitely slim, but certainly not dangerous.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

It's healthy, or definitely can be. I'm 5'8" and fluctuate between 126-135lbs I'm a size 4 but I'm also skinny curvy. I'm not too skinny

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

BMI for height/weight is normal, *but* BMI doesn't account for muscle or other health indicators, so it's not a reliable measure of health.

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

A guy that is 6’4” with a 32” waist (equivalent of a woman’s size 12) does not need to shop at Big and Tall stores. Sauce: I know stuff

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

If we’re doing equivalencies, a guy would have to be about 6’10” to be in the same height percentile as a 6’4” woman.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Can't find any shirts with sleeves long enough or that stay tucked in anywhere else unless ordered online.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

"Keep it in the circus!"

8 years ago | Likes 112 Dislikes 0

Lmao

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

"That's a huuuge bitch!"

8 years ago | Likes 40 Dislikes 2

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

FREAK!!!!

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

Holy shit it's bigfoot

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Size 12 is very small for 6’4”

8 years ago | Likes 82 Dislikes 7

I'm 6'3 and a size 12.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Most “regular” size models are between 5’ 11” and 6’ 4”. They are not talking about her height here. Let’s be real.

8 years ago | Likes 70 Dislikes 10

She seems to have very wide shoulders, tho.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 8

I'd say that she is big for being a female model.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

no, those are tall models. average model height is 5'8" to 6'0". but lets be real its not about height.

8 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 3

Citation needed

8 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 14

Well, you can use your common sense

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 3

Plus size women's stores don't stock size 12 m.evans.co.uk

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

I'm 6'5 220lbs I don't shop in the big and tall section. Most of those clothes seem to be 4 the very overweight or way taller than me people

8 years ago | Likes 94 Dislikes 15

... 6'5" 220 is pretty scrawny though.... and how do you find stuff long enough?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Well yeah, 6'5 220 is somewhere between pretty slender and normal, no?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You've never known the pleasure of a well fitting outfit, then. 6'5"/210 out.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

From my experience (at least in UK & Europe), casual clothes are fine but suits and shirts become problematic - 6’5 110kg (say 250 lbs ish)

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Basically I have a rugby-player sort of build so I have to order shirts and suit jackets a few sizes larger due to my shoulders!

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I'm only 6'2 and 282lbs. The clothes at big and tall sections are for people way fatter than I am, even when I was 317lbs

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 3

I'm in that range of size, and its an awkward size because its too big for "regular" but not by a huge margin.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I've been ordering my shirts online from Duluth Trading Post for years because they do the extra long shirts

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Ooo that's handy information

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I'm the same but I wear tall-large shirts because normal shirts are like crop tops on me.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

6'4" and 245lb's here can't go to Big and Tall cuz I'm not big enough can't go to normal store because they're not tall enough

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Really? I’m 6’4” and have never had a problem finding my size.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Well I don't know what your weight is, so maybe that's the difference

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

6'8" 240lb here. Same. Big and tall is more for the BIG you only get for tall when it comes to suits.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

6'4 is waaaaay taller for a woman than 6'5 is for a man.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

6'3 275 and huge quads make my life difficult. My waist is only a 34, but quads require me to wear a 38-40. Such is life

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Also 6'5" 220ish, my waist is 34-36. Most B&T shops start at 38 to 40 waist. No good if you're just tall.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

6'4" 220 lbs here. I pretty much only get "tall size" clothes from the different Gap brands. One day we'll have variety!

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

6'7 and 200lbs. Everything in Big and Tall is either 'big' or 'big and tall' - none of it is 'tall'

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

I'm 6'4,255. 39" sleeve. 37"inseam, size 15 shoe, 8 3/8-hat, 12.5" pinky to thumb, and a 50" chest.. My choices are Big&Tall or bespoke,(1/

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

and dayum do I look good in bespoke but I had to cut things out of my budget to afford tailored sexiness

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

And I'm 6'6" /180lbs and I have to shop in the B&T section because only they have pants with 38" inseam. Different folks, different needs

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

6'5, 200, and it's a nightmare to find clothes that fit in normal stores and sections

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

I shop there occasionally to get shirts that'll stay tucked in the back.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Plz don't use numbers that mean letters in sentences that have numbers that mean numbers with appended letters that mean words. It's confuse

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 4

How is that confusing? Also: character limits, dog. The comment you replied is *exactly* the character limit.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Well "Most of those" could have been replaced with a single colon. The commenter was just lazy. Anyway I wasn't being serious :p

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I'm 6'5 300lbs and I shop in the big and tall section. Because I'm fat.

8 years ago | Likes 65 Dislikes 1

I have slightly different problem, between 270-300lbs, size 40-44, but 28” inseam, as a Canadian guy, where should I shop w/o altering.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Cheap but decent quality' please

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

And tall!

8 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 2

6’4”, 195 lbs. I need a big or tall store. Just make the sleeves and legs longer without making me look like a pirate.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

lol just over 6'6 185 and finding shirts with sleeves long enough or pants long enough with the right waist is insanely rare

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Fuckin RIGHT? I'm only 6'1", and still pushing overweight at 185lb, and any shirts for people my height are SQUARE.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

The pants are supposed to be square.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

how do you get sleeve lengths that work and shirts that are long enough to be tucked in. Pants to the navel are an option, but looks dumb.

8 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Sleeve legbths are challenging, usually just order my exact size online

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Where online though? Looking for long torso clothes

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

presents from Mom

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Many places online have xlt shirts that work for me 6'6" 230.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

That's called the big and TALL section.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

That's like saying XL is the BIG section

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Extra large TALL is the big and tall section bud

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It's not a separate thing is what I'm saying. Go to OldNavy and look at shirts, you don't need a B&T section. Just look for shirts normally

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

She might be “plus size” but her head looks tiny.

8 years ago | Likes 147 Dislikes 8

Pic is probably shopped anyway, so she doesn´t look skinny or something... ;)

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 4

I was gonna say the same thing

8 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

Underrated right here, +1

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

That's because she's "plus sized" vertically rather than horizontally.

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Her arms look noodly as all hell, too.

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 2

She's 6'4"!

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It would help you to wear glasses sometimes you know? Maybe one of her fingers is bigger than the other from the other arm and so on...

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

There’s nothing wrong with a little head

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Also, these model photos are photoshopped to oblivion most times.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I was looking for this comment and wonder why it's so far down the list. +1

8 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 0

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The recording chick has her eyebrows on perfect though.

8 years ago | Likes 34 Dislikes 3

Can't say the same about the eyeliner

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Thats probably the most active shes been in years.

8 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 5

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

Perfect!

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

TRIGGLYPUFF, I choose you!

8 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 4

Oh god. The guy in front of her is ducking to the side.

8 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 5

Respect my authoritay!

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 2

i know a man who looks like this.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

She looks like that youtuber my SO likes

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

She’s gargantuan size.

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 7

What happened to her after that incident?

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

She fed the whole village for a month.

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

A man mustve walked on to the stage

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 7

A nazi.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Went too deep in this thread.Followed links, reached her NSFW text came back climbed out of comments still unsure if replying in right place

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

A slightly slimmer version of this person cut me off in traffic, sounded their horn and made rude gestures. Was very weird to see.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Christ, I used to work with someone who looked like her and acted exactly like that.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Trump rally?

8 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 54

Protester at a speaking event with Ben Shapiro and Steven crowder

8 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 7

And Christina Hoff Summers

8 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 2

She's a liberal protesting discussion of free speech and the right to criticize

8 years ago | Likes 33 Dislikes 9

And Milo Yiannopoulos

8 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 9

Oh God. Get ready for the trigglypuff ban.

8 years ago | Likes 108 Dislikes 11

They ban people for that? ...Why? Thats turbo tame compared to most of our shit.

8 years ago | Likes 58 Dislikes 1

Supposedly yes. Or the comment had been removed by admins. All of this is conjecture.

8 years ago | Likes 30 Dislikes 1

Let's just say some of the mods take it personally when we laugh at fat people (or rather idiots who also happen to be fat).

8 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

I have been banned for a day for posting a pacifist comment, got deleted comments over barely anything etc. Don't trust Imgur's mods

8 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

Got banned once for saying "ain't that illegal?" On a Russian drug post

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I just got a taste of that the other day.

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

What'd you do?

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

That’s kinda hot

8 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 44

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8 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 1

bet she gives mean handjobs

8 years ago | Likes 39 Dislikes 2

*Hangry

8 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 1

Anybody got some context for this?

8 years ago | Likes 44 Dislikes 3

Their youtube channel is Ladylike

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 4

Someone had a different opinion.

8 years ago | Likes 104 Dislikes 8

LOL. But yes.

8 years ago | Likes 26 Dislikes 2

To be fair, the guy with a differing opinion, Milo Yiannopoulos, is usually a dick when he argues with people.

8 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 3

He's way more than a dick. He's a pedo-apologist. Woman in the gif might look silly, but she was justified in her shouting him down.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

So a rape victim might have a screwed idea of those "relationships" that does not make her demanding someone being silenced because of her-

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

Yeah, even when he's right, he's a complete fucking chode.

8 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 3

As in he can't just be right. He has to make the other person feel stupid for ever disagreeing with him.

8 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 2

That never convinces anyone. It just makes people double down.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

Jokes on him, because this girl sure doesn’t look stupid

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 2

Is there a source for this? I need some context

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Someone heckling a neo-nazi.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

That website has really gone to shit

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

♀️I copied from someone else

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

“Protesting “ a Milo Yiannopoulos “Free speech” conference at a college

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 2

Where's the one of her playing drums?

8 years ago | Likes 109 Dislikes 4

My favorite is the blood sugar bar.

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Where's the Pokemon one

8 years ago | Likes 30 Dislikes 0

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

She's sitting there waving her arms. It's a wild Trigglypuff

8 years ago | Likes 24 Dislikes 0

v

8 years ago | Likes 108 Dislikes 0

v

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Fuck that's good

8 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

That's.. Pretty well made.

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

That's the one! I hereby decree my firstborn child shall be called Earph!

8 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

Earph Chan. Best name

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Also, I will hold you to that.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Get me a lady who will do a sex to me and I will name the hellspawn.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I feel like something is being overlooked here. She she could be quite tall, which would make her sizing larger while staying 'thinner'

8 years ago | Likes 1094 Dislikes 50

I thought the same, she could be really tall

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

Here we have someone who understands weight distribution.

8 years ago | Likes 416 Dislikes 14

Plus sized in women's clothing refers to larger sizes not really height but in width for the most part

8 years ago | Likes 84 Dislikes 9

1/2 This is true however, when you are 6 ft tall or taller you tend to go up in width to proportion your body properly. If you had someone

8 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 3

2/3 who was 7 feet tall and a size 0-6 in woman’s clothing they would look absolutely anorexic. Proportion

8 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 2

3/3 dictates the taller you are the larger you are width wise as well.

8 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 2

She’s a size 12, which is readily available at “normal sized” clothing stores and almost no “plus sized” stores. You’re right that she’s a

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Shes about 6'2 and 165 lbs. Thats not plus sized, thats tall. Sauce: celebritytall.com.

8 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

Actually she's 185 lb

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I looked at a handful more websites and there are different numbers. One says she lost weight at one point to possibly before and after?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Don't try to defend it bud, society is fucked always trying to make women skinnier and skinnier until they succumb to anorexia

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Right, if she was 6-8 inches shorter and the same weight then people would see what most people see when one thinks of “plus sized”

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

But in fashion that would be sold as "tall" not plus.

8 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 6

She's not even tall for a model. She's average.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 3

what does height have to do with bikini sizes then?

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Say whaaaat? She isn't fat, but is plus sized and people are triggered by a fucking word they don't understand?

8 years ago | Likes 73 Dislikes 36

Plus sized in modeling isn't the same as plus sized in clothes. She isn't plus sized in a store. She's plus sized in a designers show room

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I think the issue is people equate plus sized with fat. It has effectively been turned into another word for fat as far as most people are

8 years ago | Likes 30 Dislikes 1

concerned.I can see whythis got the reaction it got.Also can't tell how tall she is in the pic, you don't normally link plus sized w/ height

8 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 0

This. This is such an issue. And it's sad that women have to feel ashamed about shopping for clothes that fit them because people

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Misunderstand and misuse the term

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Plus sizes in any store I’ve ever been to starts size 18-20, so a bigger girl. Not a tall skinny one.

8 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

Plus-sized in modeling has meant weight for decades. I don’t think anyone “doesn’t understand the word,” but rather understand the context.

8 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 1

Maybe if womens clothes was actually sized by waistline and inner seam for pants and chest size instead of arbitrary numbers we wouldnt (1)

8 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 1

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

have this issue of "plus" sizes.

8 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

You're saying a Facebook outrage campaign hasn't taken into account nuance and complexity? No way.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Yeah, her face seems pretty small for the rest of her.

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 3

Yeah, she's 6'4, she's huge. Even guys that tall have a hard time finding clothes so they have to go to Big and Tall stores.

8 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 4

She actually is 189 cm tall

8 years ago | Likes 67 Dislikes 2

That's pretty plus alright.

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

What's that in freedom units?

8 years ago | Likes 57 Dislikes 8

5 flops and 3 scoops.

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

About 6'2.5" that is indeed a bigin

8 years ago | Likes 62 Dislikes 0

Well dang. In that case, I can understand the use of 'Plus sized' being outside the norm for models. She's just a VERTICAL Plus-Size.

8 years ago | Likes 29 Dislikes 0

Most models are around 6'1", so no, it's her weight/bone structure.

8 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 7

Yes she's taller than normal so she is +++ than the rest and she wears bigger size as a result. Case closed

8 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 5

But she wouldn't even wear clothes that are in plus size category in normal store...

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

they should call it Plus-height.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I can't believe nobody gets this. She's obviously not fat but from her head it's very obvious that she's got a proportionally "big' body.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Then call her a tall supermodel not plus size.

8 years ago | Likes 24 Dislikes 3

Plus size refers to literal clothing sizes dude. Seeing as generally that's what models are selling. Clothing. Stop thinking it means fat.

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 8

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No it means a higher size. But people have many different proportions that make them need to wear a size like that beyond being

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 3

"Fat"

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8 years ago (deleted Jan 4, 2018 7:55 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

Right but when the industry refers to a model as plus size they are using the industry term. Which refers to the clothing sizes they wear

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

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8 years ago (deleted Jan 4, 2018 7:56 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

And work to sell

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Look at her skin, its solid gold.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Apparently she's 6' 4"

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

People are too sensitive. She looks like a giant. She's not fat by any means, but she's still large/tall. guy in that size is considered big

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

But not fat. Just larger frame than average. I have a smaller frame than average. Not trying to make the world pretend I'm not small.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I agree IDK if she's 6 foot 7 or not.... We should rant anyway

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 7

she's 6'4

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Plus sized means fat.

8 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 11

In the US it seems to.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

except thats the whole point. it doesn't.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 6

I have never seen a plus size section, in any store, have any clothing catering to tall, it’s always just wider, at least in the states.

8 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

thats because the style difference between most women's clothes and most mens clothes. Tailoring and Dressmaking are totally different.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 4

Idk what your saying, big&tall and plus size are not synonymous. Plus size = more inches width wise, for women, which is what this is about

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

I'm not sure where you're from, but it the US it definitely does. Models are usually tall regardless.

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

the whole point of the problem is that she isn't in any sense, "fat", she is tall and fit, and being labeled as plus-size.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Yes, for a model she is. She's a size 12, not plus sized in the real world, plus sized in a designers show room or on a runway

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

I think we agree... But she's being called plus-sized for being "fat."

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Quick lookup, she’s 6’2 (188cm) and apparently 185lbs (84kg). Yields approximately 23.76BMI (fat/muscle% unaccounted for).

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

23.75** so she’s like .25 away from being overweight from BMI scale... but going by looks, I sincerely can’t tell. She looks fit to me :/

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 2

theres way more than that much variance in how you carry it. BMI is terribly inaccurate for people who aren't very average.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

True and I didn’t mean it to be “the standard”, but so are average sizes of models. But at least now we have actual #’s for height/weight.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Actually the bmi scale is spot on for anyone who isn't very muscled. If you don't have a lot of muscle the extra weight is from being fat.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I don't think you appriciate how much variance there is in how people are built. are you really suggesting the person in the above

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Fitness has nothing to do with plus sizes. It just means above the average model size. And as a tall women her proportions put

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 3

Her at a size 10-14 from what I read. So plus size. Plus size =\= overweight always

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 3

Proportions based on fashion industry.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Of course it does, either they’re not fit enough or do not fit their model scale. Fitness plays a role one way or another.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Those are two different definitions of "fit" to me she looks in healthy shape despite being a size 14. Which is far above the

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