chewbathingy
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I think this is fair.
Nov 13, 2016 2:24 AM
chewbathingy
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I think this is fair.
AngryGroundhog
How about when he puts a climate change-denying coal lobbyist in charge of the EPA transition?
MarshmallowFluffernutterPie
Then I'm gonna burn that motherfucker down.
AngryGroundhog
Too late: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/12/science/myron-ebell-trump-epa.html
AngryGroundhog
People of color are literally being bullied & attacked by Trump supporters who believe his victory gave them a license to hate.
NotACanadian
Link?
classicrapeydolphin
Oh, she got convicted?
TestAccount321
It's easy to act nonchalent when you're not on the first on the list issues the GOP has promised to make your life harder and lose some
TestAccount321
of your rights. But hey, the silent majority wanted those jobs that they're totally gonna get from the GOP.
MesserAuditore
I'm mostly upset at my party for not being this active when Bernie got cheated out of his nomination. Everyone just jumped to Hillary...
Mzso95
Bernie didn't get cheated, he got less votes. yes the dnc favored Hillary, of course they did. she was actually a member of the party
ShaunDreclin
Does anyone else remember when trump told people to protest obama being elected? Just me?
nwaw
And when your fellow Trump supporters think it's okay to harass minorities and assault women, will you fight for us then? Er, now?
nwaw
If so, then it's a deal.
brasskneecap
What about liberals harrasing trump supporters? it goes both ways people are dicks on both sides. Neither is right but both are doing it.
SnowMongoose
My only issue with this is the implication that Trump hasn't also been accused of crimes. If you label one a criminal, label both.
TimeFoDat
"State-granted" is where you lost me. I agree with the SCOTUS decision entirely & if it ever becomes threatened, I hope we fight for it.
TheNextPresident
Trump already requesting the fraud suit against TrumpU be postponed now that he's President, but yeah, Hillary's such a criminal.
fortfantastic
Did you mean to reference "First they came" by Pastor Martin Niemöller? Because the similarities is ironic.
SeraRelm
No, not really, I mean I didn't laugh at you when you fucking asked a US born citizen for his birth certificate because he was black.
SufferNoFools
Based on how Trump supporters have been behaving, it's more likely you'll cheer if Trump starts rounding people up and lynching them.
TestAccount321
The only thing I'm getting out of this endless circuit of Trump apologia is people trying to convince everyone that a terrible decision
TestAccount321
hasn't been made, based on the campaign people voted for that openly stated various oppressive/regressive intents that may very well
TestAccount321
run the lives of thousands of people.
aegis27
A: "I'm going to punch you in the face". B:"I will protest this" C: "Stop whining, he hasn't punched you yet."
SherMattLockSmith
It is more the creationist secretary of education and climate change denier to lead the EPA transition that concerns me.
SherMattLockSmith
If there are any republicans up to stopping the harm these two will do, I am glad to hear your input.
GeauxTiggers
Huh, 11h and no responses, weird
nyrak
I am terribly distraught about this and feel too helpless to change it.
kkaseoul
It's not better than liberals who think GMOs are poisoning us and acupuncture is a thing. Two sides of the same coin.
kwigybo
Has one of those folks been put in a government position of influence?
ColonelColon
Not really no. non-GMO fad and belief in acupuncture really don't fucking matter as much as fucking our environment in the ass with no lube.
BlacksMcNutt
Said Mr.Colon
ColonelColon
Damn straight. And why are you this far back, this comment was from months ago.
kkaseoul
Except for all the projects don't get funded and the real medicine not being researched and funded to appease them.
ColonelColon
I'll take slower medical research over a fucked up atmosphere any day of the week.
kkaseoul
So when you fight GMOs you fight projects that use less water and resources thus fucking the environment in the ass with no lube as you say
ColonelColon
Honestly the GMO thing is a fad. Fatty foods was the last one and they're gonna forget all about once people find something else to villify
ColonelColon
Just saying that Trump's intended policy of removing bans on various fossil fuels and not helping UN with climate change is far worse.
kkaseoul
Totally agree with you. I'm just pointing out that conservatives aren't the only people that are anti-science and reason.
Gossgoss
To be fair, Trump is even dirtier than Hillary. His list of scandals is pretty ridiculous. Not to mention the atrocious way he treats others
TheNextPresident
"I'm going to laugh at you if you protest the system working the way it should" says man living in country built on Boston Tea Party.
CPatricoo
The Republicans gave Obama time when he got elected. Two months, as in spring 2009 the tea party got started afraid of socialsts. Same shit.
Cheomesh
"Your criminal candidate." Holy shit Trump's actually been brought up on charges. Clinton Has not.
Roarkshop
Which criminal candidate? The Fraud, tax evading, child rapist? Or the one with the e-mails?
wetuttle2
These protests are legal. It may be dumb as fuck. But the right is there. Not a lot different than when Bush bombed Iraq.
jimsquill
They aren't though. Protests that are violent or incite violence are riots and are not protected by the constitution
JaxAndHisLampPost
Does anyone else think it's dumb to protest the results of election? Like what do you expect to get out of it?
CaptaineObvious
Didn't say they were illegal, just said he would laugh at the morons
IAmJacksRagingBileDuct
Protests are legal. The vandalism, arson, and violence going on right now are not.
EconomyWarf
That would be a riot which is not legal.
Foxhack
Yeah, throw the fuckers who keep doing that shit into jail. But protesters can keep doing their thing.
ShrubNinja
I'm pretty sure just about all of us agree that protests are fine and the rioters are shitheads.
chewbathingy
I mean protest all you want, that's not what I think the issue is. I think it's all the destruction they are causing.
CPatricoo
Omg some trash and spray paint. How terrible.
wearethehurricane
...and smashed cars and broken windows at local business. And you know, the occasional person getting attacked. Who cares tho, right?
FSMPirate
The ones causing the destruction are in part due to self proclaimed anarchists who just want to break shit.
asmallcat
"all the destruction." No one's reported on how much damage. What is the dollar value of "all this destruction?"
slapabear
an estimated $1 million in damage in Portland:(
asmallcat
That number comes from the police chief, who has no expertise in damage assessment and an incentive to paint it as worse than it was (1/2)
asmallcat
And, EVEN IF TRUE, is basically the same as the damage of a moderate fire in a city. Unfortunate, yes, but hardly so much that it (2/3)
ThisAccountIsMainlyForUpvoting
So by throwing a tantrum you mean rioting, not protesting? Protesting is fine, you think, but you'll laugh at the rioters?
DrakonRax
People do realize right the protesting is an American thing to do. I'm not saying Trump shouldn't be president but maybe he'll change some
Janush
You can protest against sexism, racism, etc. You can't protest against elected president.
Megustalation
Protest an elected president all you want. Peacefully. It's legal whether people like it or not. That's the beauty of America.
SeraRelm
I'll say he shouldn't but that doesn't mean I think Hillary should.
AgamemnonsMemes
Protesting is one thing, rioting is another.
IwentLookingForWhatTheBiggestIdiotHasToSayAndHereYouAre
this makes way too much sense for imgur.
Joshmoh
Shut the fuck up JarJar
meowens
One "protest" in my state involved people blocking a interstate causing an accident and delaying an ambulance from getting to the hospital
DrakonRax
Of his policies to better fit some of the people who didn't want Trump.
Rugbyrucker
Funny, talk of change coming from Supreme Leader Snoke.
TDent1
I agree man. Rioters and protesters aren't the same. This guy may change some of his policies to benefit the protesters but we'll have to
TDent1
see. For now it's important to know that violent rioters don't represent peaceful protesters.
aptatlas
You do realize most of the protesting is being bought and staged by George Soros right? Just to be clear leftist ideology isn't getting
aptatlas
2 people in the street. It's Soros money.
DrakonRax
Have A source?
aptatlas
https://www.rt.com/usa/366579-soros-orgs-driving-trump-protests/
YourMomsNewBoyfriend
This sounds like a hot lead for breitbart, I'll alert the team.
aptatlas
3 https://www.rt.com/usa/366579-soros-orgs-driving-trump-protests/
AHorticulturistIsJustANerdyGardener
They weren't protesting, though. Only if you stretch the definition to the very technical - "I protest i didn't get my way." And then,
AHorticulturistIsJustANerdyGardener
2) you could call a 4-year-old throwing a tantrum "protesting". So I won't call what they've done "protesting", because it's not.
AHorticulturistIsJustANerdyGardener
3) Also, protests should be done at certain locations for certain reasons. Fucking with random people - it's BS.
bitterandcynical
So this? https://youtu.be/-4apcD-RP48?t=58s Doesn't seem very democratic.
AHorticulturistIsJustANerdyGardener
I'd settle for a recreation of the million man march. Standing on a freeway is not a direct protest. It's like refusing to buy bubblegum
AHorticulturistIsJustANerdyGardener
2) because you feel bad about human rights infringements in Nepal.
tantricpooper
There's a difference between protesting and rioting. I have no problem with protesting.
deemondrop
Most of the protesting has been peaceful and hasn't turned to rioting. And there have been many hate crimes
TimeFoDat
Definitely but people on here are criticizing protesting & acting like everyone should just shut up & pretend to be happy. That seems weird.
TimeFoDat
Isn't that literally a plot from a dystopian science fiction flick? If you don't like what happens in the government, you should protest.
TimeFoDat
If you want to criticize the subject of the protest, be my guest, but it seems anti-American to discourage the act of peaceful protest.
tantricpooper
I just don't know what they hope to accomplish by protesting. Not like he's just going to throw up his hands and let Hillary have it.
TimeFoDat
Knowing that you lost the popular vote & people are actively protesting might inspire a better re-election platform. Or not, look at Bush.
TimeFoDat
If people say nothing & act like they're just fine with his presidency, what would ever motivate him to change anything about his policies?
tantricpooper
He hasn't DONE anything yet. How can we be unhappy? It's not like ANY politician actually DOES anything they say to get elected.
TimeFoDat
Maybe it accomplishes nothing more than reminding him that he's EVERYONE's president & to consider compromising to serve the other half too.
tantricpooper
At what cost? They are literally costing the country hundreds of thousands of dollars that could be better used.
RhealityBytes
There so far has been a Riot one place and it's unclear if the actual rioting is related to the protest or just opertunists
ShrubNinja
There have also been a TON of death threats/joking about assassination, which is pretty uncool/criminal.
Galaxytime
The Portland rioters were pretty much just anarchist groups taking advantage of the protest.
therealSKYKING
There've been felony arrests in LA, NYC, and Portland. Probably more, but those are all I've seen sources for.
asquiiiiiiisha
PNW in particular has a rather active Anarchist community who like to show up at any protest and set shit on fire.
SPCGlitterFart
Oakland was on fire.
SalamanderCmndr
Eastern Tennessee is on fire.
SabreTurbo02
Oakland is always on fire.
SPCGlitterFart
As a native west coaster, I lol'd, point taken.
yeahifuck
True
beaviswasthecuteone
There is no debate anymore. There's no cooperation anymore. 50% of this country hates the other 50%. This country needs a divorce.
SadPaisley
yescalifornia.org
beaviswasthecuteone
How serious is that? I mean really?
SadPaisley
Less serious than voting for Bernie Sanders, more serious than voting for Gary Johnson.
nwaw
15% of this country hates 15% on the other side with 70% on an uncomfortable spectrum in the middle that think 15% is 50%.
Gartweasley
It makes perfect sense to protest an administration whose campaign has given inclination of deporting immigrants and dissolve gay rights.
Gartweasley
(2/2) Just because you dislike Hillary, it doesn't mean protesting her loss to a fundamentally worse candidate is a "tantrum."
IJUSTMADETHEVOICEINYOURHEADYELL
NOT TO MENTION JUST STRAIGHT UP MURDERING PEOPLE BECAUSE OF WHO THEY'RE RELATED TO.
ThatDwarfWhoStealsYourOpinions
Trump isn't even an administration yet. That's the point. The protestors haven't given him a chance yet.
Gartweasley
There is anger and fear. Might as well get it out through peaceful protest. And even if Trump functions well as POTUS his policies are hated
castlemacaw
He already is picking his administration and the new Supreme Court Justice-selections who are very worthy of protest
TestAccount321
Also, can someone tell me why Trump is the best candidate for America without saying anything about Hillary or the "silent majority"?
ThatDwarfWhoStealsYourOpinions
He's not the best candidate. Between Hillary and him, he's the better, in my opinion. He's shitty but not nearly as sneaky.
castlemacaw
Hillary is a wonderful person. I really don't understand all the hate. She's super smart (valedictorian at Harvard) and super thoughtful
TestAccount321
I asked you why, and all you're telling me is "he's better because he's better!"
TestAccount321
Please. Give me something concrete that with this man's checkered past, lack of experience and the various things he promised
TestAccount321
about minorities that makes him the best candidate for America.
varsil
He isn't the best. America decided he was basically the second-worst person in America. Unfortunately, his competition was the worst.
TestAccount321
Can you tell me why voting in someone who thinks global warming is a hoax was worth it?
varsil
I didn't vote for him. I didn't even vote for the other guy. I'm not American, but you guys had a choice between shit with peanuts or corn.
TestAccount321
Can someone tell me something concrete other than "Hillary was bad?"
varsil
Nope, that's it. That's why he got elected. DNC decided Hillary would be the candidate against all reason or sense, and now you get Trump.
CigaretteMan
Trump is as much a criminal as Clinton, as both have been investigated and not convicted. That's where you lost me.
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TheNextPresident
The rape case actually got dropped after the accuser received an onslaught of death threats.
therealSKYKING
Trump has allegations (every last one of which have been dismissed in court so far), Clinton's confirmed to have broken several laws.
Sakkura
It's been confirmed that Clinton did nothing criminal in the email case.
therealSKYKING
Says who?
Sakkura
The FBI.
jeangaijin
Trump has lost hundreds of lawsuits for cheating contractors whom he didn't pay. This shit has been going on since the 80s.
jonstewartforpres
Trump gets investigated in a few weeks though. Just saying.
CigaretteMan
The guy's going to be president now, I doubt anyone's going to continue pursuing civil cases against him. Too intimidating.
jonstewartforpres
It's not a civil case. It's for racketeering.
CigaretteMan
jonstewartforpres
He was charged for racketeering for Trump university.
akmarksman
Is that the alleged rape case that is a hoax? 1/2
akmarksman
2/2 http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit-dropped-230770
Iforgetmyusernameeasily
Well if they deport illegals then they are following the law.... not much can be done there.
MosesJackson
Obama deported more people than any other president in history...
yloera
He said U.S. citizens...... so happy you understood the message fully. That was sarcasm in case you misunderstood
erikagainagain1
If you cross the border and report yourself, you are not illegal.
AgainstMethod
They go kicking in thousands of doors to destroy families over fucking green cards, they can go fuck themselves in their nativist nostrils.
yeahifuck
Yeah! Punishing people who break our laws is a bad thing! /s
AgainstMethod
Do you think the punishment for not having a green card is actually commensurate with with the crime?
E7C69
I would say being made to leave the country because you came in illegally is a pretty fair punishment
AgainstMethod
Even if you didn't come into the country by choice, like the tens of thousands of kids and slaves who've since made lives here?
MCclapyohandz1
So Trump's wife?
manicmalki
These illegals already have an option to petition to become legal citizens. They have chosen not too. Sucks to be them.
iguessidontknowhowtospellimaganative
As a former illegal, who did get a green card, the hold up was I didn't have $5000.
manicmalki
But you tried that is the difference. I understand some where kids when they came hers but for most it was a choice.
iguessidontknowhowtospellimaganative
Yeah, I did, and easily could've flushed that 5k and been told to leave. Have to do it again next year too, as it only lasts 2 years.
whiskeyvillage
THIS! This right here. i don't understand how people don't get this.
YourMomsNewBoyfriend
I don't think people are too focused on the one or two things Donald said that weren't completely bat shit.
HikariShade
Its because he wants to repeal the law where children who were brought into the US as children illegaly were able to apply for and be 1/2
HikariShade
2/2 granted citizenship as adults. 1.2 million people have been approved for it, and Trump wants to revoke it all.
lighterletter
It's not even citizenship, it's simply permission to work.
yloera
Wrong!
thatguy825
it because they believe he is going to depot every immigrant legal or not
floofsrus
Not really I just know a couple illegal immigrants who were brought as kids and have worked and pay taxes for years and have kids and are
floofsrus
Married to citizens and have been trying to legalize for years spent $$$$ These shouldn't be deported but I agree we need to fix the system.
ariella1992
Thank you for that this is me and my husband
irvming
Exactly, everyone thinks this issue is just black and white, it's not. There a lot of these types of cases where people would get torn away
contrabille
I have family who is illegal and extremely American. I'm conservative on some issues but our economy would collapse and I would lose many1/2
Tanwolf
The biggest issue I have with "the economy will collapse" is that it's based on the fact that illegals get paid below minimum wage. How 1/
Tanwolf
is it that one one hand a group is calling for a living wage but on the other wants illegals because they work cheap?
contrabille
Loved ones of we deported them all. Criminals only in my view (i know all are considered criminals by some).
Chimaira
The thing is I saw a news report that talked about a family leaving AZ because of a law several years ago. The wife of one legal (1)
Chimaira
So she showed no intent to become a citizen. That's the thing. If they show an intent to become a citizen then let them stay and work on (3)
Chimaira
immigrant was leaving cause his wife was illegal. She had been here for 17 years (she was mid 40's) and had to talk through a translator (2)
Chimaira
it. I do feel as a country we make it really hard to become a citizen and they tend to be more knowledgeable than a natural born citizen.
IAmGodot
The US isn't a democracy, it's a constitutional republic.
HalfPintKatie
I have been waiting for you.
IAmGodot
Ya, sorry to keep you waiting. There were a few last minute things that came up. Anyway, can't stay long, can we reschedule again?
azzjunky2000
I feel like it's become a Corporate/Industry fueled Oligarchy, in which the constitution is used as a mask for many of those industries
KRicci
A study out of Princeton confirmed it acts more like an oligarchy than any other form of government.
G0DD
....which is a form of democracy....
SteveBinCypressTexas
Thank you, I am sick of people saying that line as if they know the difference.
ktheman
A representative democracy. It's important to be concise because it's definitely not a true democracy, which would be wholly exhausting
IAmGodot
And yet, the differences are important. The differences are what people are both protesting (popular vote not winning) and hoping change 1/2
IAmGodot
the result of the election (electoral college voting in Clinton) 2/2
CPatricoo
Does the president represent the people or states? If not the people then why does the president say he represents them?
petgoats
Can you also add "If he destroys what little healthcare system we have, I will protest" too?
darkhalfbreed
Look if we sit and list all the things he can potentally fuck up, we'd be here all god damn day
asmallcat
Frankly I'm a lot more worried about the environment. Climate change denier in charge of the EPA. Here we go.
therealSKYKING
Just because he's abolishing Obamacare doesn't mean he's not pro-universal healthcare. He is. He's rebuilding it from the mess it is.
tracenix
Don't you love it when truth gets downvoted?
asquiiiiiiisha
When did he ever say that? He's said he wants to let people purchase insurance across state lines and put more aside in HSAs.
eversoft
People aren't upset bc Hillary lost. People are upset bc Trump won - everything he represents won. Rioting is bad but anger is valid.
theburningsensation
Trump didn't win for what he is. He won because of what he isn't.
eversoft
Regardless, he is still those things - even if that wasn't the main reason for voting him in it still sends a message saying those are ok.
Kiore
Only if we make it about ourselves. They're voting based on their own self-interests. The left screwed itself over by trying to push out <1>
eversoft
It's personal when you're someone targeted by the things he's talking about. It's easy to dismiss those fears if you don't share them.
Kiore
Mate, I get it. I weirdly lucked out on Trump's bigotry, in that he was randomly cool about trans people. But these things matter to me.
Kiore
a candidate who is that wildly unpalatable to so many people who voted for Obama or didn't care enough to vote against him. That's our bad.
eversoft
I agree the left needed a more appropriate candidate and I get that republicans have their own fears. Dems should have grouped together.
theburningsensation
I disagree. The action of the things you're talking about are, and still will be illegal. Anyone caught will still face charges.
eversoft
Except that's not always true. Over a dozen women accused Trump himself and it looks like he'll get away with it. It emboldens people.
amadteaparty81
Get away with what? Being accused? Since when is that illegal? He's innocent until proven guilty. They need to go through the courts.