VoidOfTheEyes
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Jun 8, 2022 2:49 PM
VoidOfTheEyes
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reverendbonobo
"What a coincidence. My birthday is today too. I'm accepting cold, hard cash."
ballsoutflyer
The audacity, gall and entitlement of this person. wow.
CitizenClam
"I am accepting gifts"- Everybody accepts gifts! My dog accepts gifts and isn't a pill about it.
metroid2
Heh MS Paint of a stick figure. Here is your free art.
SoupForMyFamily
koomer
Repeat after me. NEVER?GIVE?FREE?ART. Do not devalue yourself. Set the expectation of professionalism early. Your client is NOT your friend.
MarsIsAfire
I think they think it's like a subway card; buy 5 and the next art is free!
Fyffer
I commission a fair bit of art for my OCs. I never ask for free art. Its their livelyhood.
Criecheck
My best bud since preschool is a welder and I pay him for every single job he does for me. I cant fathom asking for freebies...
JarJarKinks
Personally I work on barter. I'd do free service for a friend, and they'd do a free session for me. We all have strengths, lets share them
bowelrog
But that isn’t free… sounds like bartering on credit. (I do this myself, even with local businesses. E.g. computer work for free service)
dentros1
I have family saying they have so much shit for me to weld for them once I finish getting my business up and running, and its fully mobile-
dentros1
and expensive to run, but I'm supposed to just drive 150 miles to their place and do free work for them? Hahaha, no.
BurnieCinders
I was a physio and eventually my mates-rate was double because people weren't doing their exercises and wanted me to treat them instead.
Aurasyr
Fucking hell. It costs them nothing but time to be at work either, and I'm sure they do that when they're bored. Entitled son of a bitch.
Aurasyr
Time is by far the most valuable commodity you'll ever possess. People need to understand that.
wylkyn
That's so disrespectful. It just costs you time? That's what everybody's work costs!
weirdcalculator
I do handyman shit as a side gig. No one ever asks me to do it for free. There's no reason it shouldn't be the same for artists. Insane.
SergeiBoobtitsky
"Sounds like you only wants to do art for money" Yeah, that's what being an artist is...
CaptainRuse
If an artist even offered me a free piece I'd demand I pay them. Support the creatives in the world who are stuggling to make it a living.
ActionJohnnie
Ask the choosing beggar to paint your house for free first.
KiwiGameDev
If you receive art on your birthday for free as a gift, it’s because that person gave you their labour. It cost them their rate to do it.
KiwiGameDev
We wouldn’t go “hey it’s my birthday coming up, could you buy me that $120 dollar game that just came out k thanks how was your day?”
KiwiGameDev
Not how gifts work! The giver chooses. This mindset in the post is very distressing
NekoKoakuma
Hope you send this to r/choosingbeggers as this will make a great addition to their collection
VoidOfTheEyes
I'm trying to figure out that, it won't show up the pictures
Sechran
Art as a hobby? Fun times. Art as a business or profession? ... Even if I was that talented, I fear the result would be mostly misery.
VoidOfTheEyes
I do it as both
Dustorm
If it’s a relationship how about the customer cough up some birthday money without asking for art?
soulmercenary
Ugh. Even with friends you pay for the skill that they earn their living from. It’s ok if they decide to discount it but free? Nope.
DoctorDudeBruh
Disengage from people like this immediately. Don't debate them. They will not respect you or your time. The only answer should be "sorry
Zreen
At least with the response it's in writing that it wasn't ignored and that the creator wasn't at any fault if it ends up in court
vowofloudness
You don't have to say sorry. "No" is fine.
ballsoutflyer
I usually like: "Fuck off and don't bother me again."
CarlottaVonSprockett
This is wise and logical, but SOOO difficult!!
DoctorDudeBruh
It gets easier each time. I just say "Sorry no time." Then immediately disengage. Their money isnt worth the time, energy, and drama.
CarlottaVonSprockett
Practice makes perfect I guess. Just gotta keep trying to be zen enough to disengage.
penzick
Some people just have no shame about asking for free stuff. Or demanding it.
Aksuuuh
I mean there's no harm other than being a little disrespectful asking if you get a drawing for free. But he didn't just stop there.
penzick
I understand what you mean but if you think about it, being disrespectful to someone actually is a harm. A small one perhaps, but still.
redexodus
Its so bad for artists. People disrespect them alot because they are jealous lol
VoidOfTheEyes
And then guilt tripping when they don't get it
Alientongue
Typically people who havent been told no in awhile
ShaunDreclin
NGL as a broke mofo I have no shame asking for free stuff, but when people (usually) say no I'm just like cool, no worries
ShaunDreclin
this kind of attitude boggles my mind, acting like they're entitled to free shit
PineappleIsDeliciousOnPizzaFightMe
My brother in law is a plumber. We dump cash on him when we ask him to fix something. People are rude.
DustyMcKnuckles
"CB" stands for "Cunt Bitch" right @OP? Cuz thats what it sure feels like. "Oh youre not making any money, perfect time to not make money"
VoidOfTheEyes
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT FEELS LIKE.
ctriis87
They can have this for free:
VoidOfTheEyes
BAHAHHSHDHF
skiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiittles
As a fellow artist good for you. Free stuff is rare, and only for legitimate friends and family, usually as a thank you for something else
yusogutter
I just wonder how many stores this person goes into and makes a purchase. Then comes back the next day,
yusogutter
grabs something from the shelf and tries to walk out without playing.
yusogutter
*paying
MagmaCarta
"I've been your customer for a while. So you should give me something free for my birthday. Starbucks does that, and they just pour coffee."
Bandlith
Infinias
One in a million-on-on-on coffee vs hand crafted unique piece ...
humblewordsmith
Many people lack perspective. They honestly don't understand the difference between a free bday coffee and the above request. That doesn't /
humblewordsmith
Make it in any way OK, but it does make me think about our system of buying and how we may be training ourselves to think incorrectly. Folks
humblewordsmith
Dont naturally have perspective. It's gained through experience and guidance. Current culture is most of peoples' collective experience and
humblewordsmith
It teaches some pretty wrong concepts that, without essential knowledge and understanding, can really warp said perspective
humblewordsmith
Also some people are just all terrain douche vehicles *shrug*
Nivvi
Let me guess entitled streamer with massive ego?
VoidOfTheEyes
Surprisingly not(that I know of), the emojis were for amino stickers.
Nivvi
If you want commissions start shameless advertising. Post some of your art here with watermarks, link your twitter, advertise on twitter
SirWadeWilson
I asked my friend to draw something for me as a gift for my husband. She presented it and said not to worry about it. ¹/²
SirWadeWilson
²/² I'm giving her $20 it's not much but people need to start paying artists and not being dicks about it.
bekindtoanimals
Exactly
VoidOfTheEyes
So here it was purely a business relationship 2/2
Outforalark
Kinda feel like birthday was the opening gambit - that if they got a free commission for that they'd be asking for free at other times
NCPBullet
I paid my friend for literally 5 mins of her time because she worked on a decal for me. Insisted it was free. But you support your friends
NCPBullet
That means paying them for their work. Not expecting a discount
VoidOfTheEyes
I understand someone doing it for friends, the thing here was the only time we spoke to each other was during the commissions. 1/2
anonbanannon
And the tone wasn’t asking, it was basically saying “free please. Thanks.”
TripleDane
A friend would also understand that constantly eeing asked for free stuff is going to take a toll on you. You dont owe people your work.
TripleDane
and people feeling entitled for "gifts" does not understand what a gift is. They are just free loaders.
cornzilla
I'm at the point where the only people who get anything free are my partner (so my home) and my dad because I owe him 2k so.... (1)
zeo868
I had a coworker who draws on the side do character art for my Pathfinder character and paypaled her 20 after being told it was free
Fastjack2056
haadyy
If you ask a friend to do something for you - you pay. Exactly how I think. :) We are friends and I value your time & skills.
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
Exactly this. If I *decide* to make something for someone as a gift, that's on me, I chose to do it free. People demanding it isn't very /1
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
nice though. My MIL did, twice, *but* she had gotten me a bunch of alpaca yarn in Peru which was very thoughtful, and so asking me to /2
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
make her something wasn't out of line. Now she's asked me to make her another sweater in the same style as the cardigan I made but /3
wadeMFNwilson
Or owe a favor. Id rather have the favor. And probably call it in for something stupid
SirWadeWilson
For context when I asked her to make this for me I told her to let me know what it'd cost because I didn't expect free art.
grimCoordinator
Yep I ask all my friends what it'll cost. Some are like "bruh do NOT give me money" some are like "cheap"
VoidOfTheEyes
That's reasonable, because you were wanting to pay. This person in my post got mad I wouldn't do free art.
crazyspelling
You're right, but also it's succubus art... for free... on a birthday... the possibilities for outrageous bullshit were endless!
SirWadeWilson
Which baffles me. I don't know where people get the Gaul.
thembitchesbewitches
The western part of Europe, I believe, although it's been rebranded by the point.
BardlyThere
what sort of art do you do and how much do you charge?
VoidOfTheEyes
I do digital! I charge 24 for a fully shaded and colored full body-!
VoidOfTheEyes
Which theres cheaper options! I'm going to post about the commissions in just a moment
BardlyThere
I'm interested in seeing some examples of your stuff!
VoidOfTheEyes
I'm posting some examples of my art now!
paladindansesgirlfriend
Can you post an Etsy link?