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#coronavirus
UK source: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/health/how-do-i-claim-80-wages-staff-uk-governments-coronavirus-job-retention-scheme-explained-and-how-claim-hrmc-2516070%3famp
Denmark: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/608533/
Cananda: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/608533/
US: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/article/coronavirus-stimulus-package-questions-answers.amp.html
SoftcoreFavorites
Switzerland's government basically just said "fuck it, here's 6 months worth of back-up. Now leave us alone to deal with this virus"
UpInSky
Finland: few euros to business.Of course they backup some bisness loan,but how pay them back whit no customers?
Jacail
Actually in Denmark it up to 90% at a max of 3400$ pr. month
Hifam2007
Canada is not sending everyone 2k a month
SniperTeamTango
No, not everyone, but if you are unable to work have lost work or are sick. And it doesnt contradict EI. Right on cdn.gov.
GenStrike
Hard times ahead for those on disability
bac83
I am (as ever) proud to be British right now.
jeff66117930
Have yet to hear anyone even get to reach the unemployment services in canada. The services are so backed up they couldnt even file.
SgtThunderfistMD
There's also 3x the people in the us than all those countries combined.
Pinewood74
OP is a fucking liar/idiot, but these arguments have always baffled me. Revenue is also proportional to citizens/residents.
Ragingcashew2
A $1200 one time check for anyone making less ghan 100k a year AND $600 a week EXTRA on top of your states unemployment. Forgot that? 1
xXDefinitelyNotARobotXx
You will see op just either didn't do his/her own research, which is ignorant, or chose to twist the number, which is outright misinformatio
Ragingcashew2
Or did it not fit the narrative? And that extra $600 a week? Its for 4 months. I know alot of ppl who dont make $600 a week employed. So yea
BeForwardBeHonest
May I ask for a source? Several people in my family, me included, can't find anyone reporting on it being more than a one-time payment.
Ragingcashew2
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/03/25/politics/stimulus-package-details-coronavirus/index.html
ArmedandOverclocked
here you go https://www.nytimes.com/article/coronavirus-stimulus-package-questions-answers.html
peikkos
Not everyone in Canada gets 2k, only people impacted by covid19. https://cupe.ca/canada-emergency-response-benefit-qa
isthistrue
France : 85% of your salary paid by the state
Spaceqowboy
Here you get at least 90% of your income. If your employer is still able, he is forced to pay the remaining 10%. In fact u have pay security
ilikegardening
UK is 80% of salary up to £2,500 a month
BeerSeer
$3039.
jimmityjammity
There's no process for it at the moment, they're definitely releasing a hell of a lot more t+cs AFTER employers have paid the 80%
SJohnson23
It’s only if you’re furloughed that they pay the company 80% to keep you on. It’s a con, a mirage. Ditto the £330bn in loans.
raineryuzaki
Or uc- whichever’s lower
Midlands1234
Thank you, I believe this is outlined in source I posted
xXDefinitelyNotARobotXx
OP you are just so into twisting the number for your own narratives
GalbatoexCaedes
that would make out the majority of most peolpes pay, so does it really matter?
kaztas
True, but the still makes the image misleading.
CatsUpvoteTerror
US increased unemployment checks by $600 a week
ComicSansHumor
Today. Like, the news broke hours ago. Op is a bit behind.
TheFastpaws
This does nothing for so many still. Fuck our government
Stickyleftover
I'm self employed. Absolutely all of my clients as of today have requested a leave of services. No unemployment for me.
FunkyHandsMcgee
Indi contractors still get the 1200.i believe they also can apply for unemployment under this new bill based off your pervious year'sincome
HogwartsAlumnus
This ^
Naroyto
Does it apply to disability?
CassiusFaux
But first you have to qualify for unemployment. Some people are boned because their jobs set them to 0 hours, yet say they are employed.
KillerTofu615
When exactly?
MothMonsterMan
Its part of the Round-3 bill. It'll probably pass/be signed by Monday
KillerTofu615
Oh i just looked it up, its going up for vote on friday.
FlamingDeathGoat
And don't have to be jobless for x weeks, and don't have to looking for work while relieving benefits.
nfseskimo
i cant get unemployment because they think im lying about my ssn
CatsUpvoteTerror
Well that's a issue
SidneyHarbor
Shhh, this is an election year. Facts need not apply, only rhetoric.
AMPM2020
how's it different any other time of the year from all people in politics?
Katz00
If you filed taxes you'll get something as long as you didnt make over 99k
girlsomewhere
Filled or paid in?
Katz00
Filed. Doesn't matter if you paid in or not.
fafnir77
No they didn't add an additional $600 a week to unemployment
CatsUpvoteTerror
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/26/coronavirus-relief-bill-what-to-know-about-unemployment-benefits.html
fafnir77
Fake news!!!!!!
FunkyHandsMcgee
They most certainly did although 4 GOP assholes tried to get it removed becuase it would "make people not want to work"
CatsUpvoteTerror
"The bill also gives an additional $600 a week for up to four months"
manfre7874
Bernie Sanders was actually directly responsible for this provision as the GOP wanted it out badly enough they almost tanked the bill again.
JohnnyGossamer
No, he wasn't.
Wolvenlight
Well, it looks like they're at an impasse folks. (It appears multiple Democrats fought for it but beyond that I have no specifics).
MyhedgehogisnamedHonshu
4 Republican senators considered fighting it. Not the entire GOP. The bill was bipartisan
Creature0069
That's $600 added to the max pay you could get on unenjoyment from what I've seen.
IguanasEveryday
It works out to 860 bucks a week for me... 360 more than I make in a week. I'm excited but feel really weird accepting it. On top of the 1,
HogwartsAlumnus
This doesn’t apply to people who are already on unemployment and now have no hope of finding an equitable job huh? Bleh.
IguanasEveryday
I dont know how to answer that because I applied last week and havent got my first payment yet. I believe it depends on why you're on UnEmp.
IguanasEveryday
Like If you've been laid off because of corona, I think you get it. Or it could be everyone already on it as well, I'm not sure
IguanasEveryday
1,200, that's like 4600 a month. Seems a bit overkill, but I'll definitely put that to paying off student loans.
Dispatch
*Bernie Sanders increased unemployment checks by $600/week.
MoonsHaunted
Why is this being downvoted. Guy went nuts in the floor about it
Xenomania
Ppl compare him to trump as in they're the same type of leader. They hate Bernie no matter what
JohnnyGossamer
Because it was Sen. Bennet of CO's provision in the bill, it passed 96-0, and people are giving Bernie credit because he made a speech.
KrenthKH
Because Bernie... Don't question idiocy.
Dispatch
Its my One Weird Trick, I mention anything good Sanders does, and the liberals lose their goddamned minds.
verdenvidia
not just liberals, either
LooseLeafTea
Can I get a link for this info? I’m on unemployment rn due to covid and haven’t heard a thing about this
MemeMyselfnI
Watch the news.
Rayj420
Maybe dont rely on imgur as a news source? I knew about it hours after the stimulus deal went through....how the fuck havent you heard??
CatsUpvoteTerror
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/26/coronavirus-relief-bill-what-to-know-about-unemployment-benefits.html
CatsUpvoteTerror
Looks like I jump the gun it pass Congress but needs to be signed
PhilipJFryIII
Still needs to go to the house tomorrow and then needs to be signed I think
WakandaDelNorte
I applied but I’m a 1099 employee laid off due to covid19. I can’t find specifics on qualifying.
workthatbodyworkthatbodymakesureyoudonthurtnobody
It’s different for every state, so make sure to check yours. I live in Texas and if you’re a contractor here it disqualifies you
FunkyHandsMcgee
If you're an independent contractor the unemployment still applies to you. They will base it off your income during the past year.
ilikepot8os
Richest country I the world everybody.
mity0k23
What does that even mean?
GenStrike
Correction: 2k/month is not to everyone. It's only through employment insurance, and there's still ambiguities as to who can get it.
GenStrike
& maximum 4 months IIRC
naturesbless
But every state has unemployment insurance, by law. Anyone with reduced wages or job loss has the right to apply. 1/
BibliophileEngineer
Not everyone-I was in college & working minimum # of hours to cover my bills. I make too little to qualify for UI even though my hours 1/2
BibliophileEngineer
are less than 1/4 of what they used to be. I'm basically just fucked.
naturesbless
New laws should cover part time workers as well. It should cover anyone who had a reduction of pay or basically anyone. Even gig workers.
BibliophileEngineer
i hope you are right, i just know that when i looked ~2 weeks ago i didn't qualify
naturesbless
For sure. They just passed the bill on Wednesday. It might take time for everyone to get on the same page but fight for it. Hope you're ok.
naturesbless
Check the NY Times article and apply even if you think you don't qualify. There should be leniency given the COVID situation.
cnphilli
shhhh... this is Imgur. We hate america. Logic does not supersede that.
LegendMasterX
People tend to forget that not everything is handled by the federal government in the US. Its kinda ironic considering our name
CatsUpvoteTerror
Us federal government increased unemployment checks by $600 a week
Cheomesh
I wonder if that'll be used to increase it to something as a new normal.
naturesbless
This is on top of the stimulus check that everyone gets except those with no tax return or make too much to need it. 2/
Youareprobablytoofragile
Quiet! It disrupts the misinformation meme posted to gain up votes!
naturesbless
The Federal government already gave that power to the states. The only thing I'm disappointed in is the lack of nationwide debt/rent freeze.
cnphilli
I'm suprised by that too. But I heard evictions would not occur during the crisis and businesses can get loans to cover leases.
naturesbless
Yeah, I heard that's mainly due to civil courts being closed. I guess it's the system at work lol
Midlands1234
Yes I do wish that was implemented
jelliebellie1940
Just notified of 8% pay reduction from my company. But it was a really difficult decision for upper management so my heart goes out to them!
dinBror
You forgot Sweden who is doing fuck all
tmas390
The Canadian government has yet to send it's own people relief funds. Hastened Employment Insurance doesn't come into effect until April.
CPatricoo
US wont get their check until May
Doumdidoum
So, you complain that an emergency relief fund affecting millions of people is taking two weeks to set up? Are you serious?
tmas390
It took month for them to care about Canadians & then delay handing it out. For those who needed it last month to cover food & rent are SOL
tmas390
Foreign aid spending https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-ottawa-to-increase-foreign-aid-as-part-of-the-fight-against-covid-1/
tmas390
16 ton of medical supplies to China & now Canadian hospitals are running out.
tmas390
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/nationalpost.com/opinion/laura-tennant-consumers-didnt-cause-the-mask-shortage-governments-did/amp
tmas390
And the liberals have approved an effective immediately increase to their own salaries. Thankfully their attempt at martial law was denied.
konelhft
Like father like son.
birencall
I’m not a Trudeau fan but been defending his actions throughout this to my family and friends. No way to defend what they tried pushing thru
SpraynardYitzben
When did they increase their salaries?
tmas390
https://torontosun.com/news/national/mps-poised-to-score-pay-hike-amid-covid-19-crisis
SpraynardYitzben
Thanks for the quick reply! I dont doubt they're getting a raise but its disconcerting the article has no author or reputable source
whydoineedtochooseausername
You're thinking of the Emergency Measures Act, which hasn't been activated yet.
CeliusFFXIV
Any source on the liberals proposing Martial Law? I haven't heard anything of this at all.
tmas390
https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/e-4.5/page-1.html includes conscription, seizure of property & uncontrolled tax & spending
CeliusFFXIV
Interesting. I'm not sure it'll happen with a Liberal minority. Never heard of the first link, but CTV as a source is good enough.
tmas390
Not familiar with this media outlet https://ipolitics.ca/2020/03/24/federal-parties-continue-to-hammer-out-details-on-emergency-bill/
tmas390
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/what-could-happen-if-feds-invoke-the-emergencies-act-to-deal-with-covid-19-1.4857005
tmas390
All the down voters, why do you want Trudeau to have dictatorial power & martial law?
hairytrigga
The CF doesnt have the resources to enforce martial law anyways.
waitwhat1234
Are you sure about that!?
hairytrigga
Yes because theres only 40k of us and we even struggle to bring enough troops to fill sandbags for flood relief operations.
BigFatBobbie
CF as in CT Fletcher? You bet your ass he could do it! ?
fuenteopusx
Not sure at all why you are getting downvoted. Martial law is really bad...
Doumdidoum
I didn't vote for Trudeau, don't like him, but saying he wanted to invoke Martial Law is just bullshit. So I downvote.
58d8fee2
Don't even bother raising your hand. Didn't you hear that you're disposable so we can push the stock market back up?
marteney1
Gotta buy the votes of the 1% again.
BukkakeRider3000
Nukls
#Die4WallStreet
Coyote8
Hijacking top comment to say paying XX% of an unemployed persons salary is always going to be 0%...
Coyote8
This will help any person who has ever had a W-2 wether or not they're working right now.
kiddub
Canadian 2K, has to be applied for, it’s a form of ei/ sick leave. Eg I am lucky to be in a stable job, can work from home, will not get 2k$
MemeMyselfnI
Don't confuse us w facts. This is only supposed to make the US look like shite.
Midlands1234
I mean, that makes sense...
kiddub
Yeah, it’s a pretty good program. My sister works in a cake shop, they are closed and prob won’t reopen.
Midlands1234
I feel for those in the food, entertainment, tourism industry right now.
Norrah
Government employee, project manager in health and care, no need for sick leave here, I’m covered.
robindawilliams
Federal inspector for nuclear, on leave with full pay right now. Feels good not needing to think about income during a scary time
Tesseract09
Canadians also have the advantage of a more accessible healthcare system
KilgoreTrout81
I'm on parental leave right now... So... I'm at 1100 a month with no ability to apply for the 2k either
robindawilliams
Idk, that seems fair. Would be weird for you to get a raised income because of the pandemic, since your job should be waiting for you.
Magus25
Same. You only qualify if you have lost your job, or are forced to take leave without pay. There are also a lot of payments being waved.
TiannaTV
So the fact I have one 3 hour shift scheduled next week means I'm not qualified for it? Even though my hours got decimated
Magus25
They weren't as clear about reduced hours, but I'm pretty sure your covered as long as you can show loss of wages.
DontYouMeanExtinct
BC is also giving $500 to help relieve the cost of rent
encephalon
That one is quite hard to apply for though, you kinda have to be getting minimum wage to qualify. A couple of my co-workers tried.
ItWasASickOstrich
Same with me, but I heard they’re upping the GST credit. I wonder who is eligible for that?
jessicadee
My sister is also not getting it because she was just on mat leave and I think that’s crap. She can’t work just like everybody else.
Doumdidoum
And they use the EI because its financed on a loaaaded sovereign fund. It won't affect the budget at all.
mandis
Same here.
tonytotheb
Has classic IMGUR fake news
TheDouche
As an American who will be receiving the check, though my wife and I still have incomes, I think we shouldn’t be.
TheSonAndHeirOfNothingInParticular
Wife and I will be donating entire check to local food pantry. Will gladly pay the taxes on it. We don't need it, but many are hurting bad.
p3culiar15
Isn’t it receiving check is base on your salary? Like >75k
TheSonAndHeirOfNothingInParticular
It's based on Adjusted Gross Income from taxes. We will get almost entire amount, but we don't need it to survive like others might.
p3culiar15
Cool. You have saving up your raining fund. I don’t think I will get one either. If I do, I might as well donate
TimTheEnchanter01
Would you not recoup that tax as it’s a charitable donation? Also kudos to you for that!
TheSonAndHeirOfNothingInParticular
It would just reduce AGI, not be straight dollar-for-dollar swap, but we would do it regardless.
TimTheEnchanter01
Either way good for you
Flowstatepassenger
It’s tax exempt.
TheSonAndHeirOfNothingInParticular
Initial reports said they would be taxed. Guess it changed in process.
PetricusGaming
Having to apply, does it mean meeting criterias and could be rejected if not met?
kiddub
I’m not sure tbh, but I think you have to demonstrate that you are in distress. Lost your job, taking care of someone affected by covid, etc
iConfirmAnythingAndEverything
Yes you need to qualify, so if it's lost work you need a record of employment, or doctors note if you caring for someone. All through EI.
iConfirmAnythingAndEverything
I just came off of EI a few weeks earlier for winter. They reactivated my claim. I won't receive the 2k until my claim is done. Automatic
iConfirmAnythingAndEverything
Switches over. And vice versa. If youre off longer than the 2k is given(4 months max) then they automatically switches you to regular
IwanJerkow
Its that instead of gettin on EI youll have this 2k/mo for 4mo that for most ppl would be more than EI is. After that EI kick in.1/2
IwanJerkow
2/2 Self employed and small business owner might also be covered ( not sure about this one). But like with everytgs there is conditons
Doumdidoum
Canadian EI system rarely reject people, it asks for a reimbursement for incorrect declaration afterwards.
pancreas
it mostly just means jumping through hoops, and waiting for it to kick in. i think it only starts like 1 week after your final paycheck.
pancreas
(2)so you do have to take a week without pay, which is more important for some people than others.
Doumdidoum
You can call the gov to apply for an urgent unlock and receive that support immediately.
Drath101
UK is slightly inaccurate, it depends on alot of factors, for example I have been put out of work but will not be paid 80%
BigBadTCO
Same here, made redundant but company is still trading.
kaztas
It has quite a few misleading bits.UK bit, Canada is NOT "everyone." US has unemployment insurance already, the $1200 is additional bonus.
LurkerOfDarkness
Same for the danish one, it can be as much as 100%, and down to less than 50%, depending on what your usual income is, type of employment..
JartBanssen
The Netherlands: 'Hold my fucking beer!' ;-)
Midlands1234
Now I have to research what they’re doing...
Chainhealer
90% of wages paid for by the government under the condition no one gets fired. In a nuthshell.
Chainhealer
Nutshell* sorry
VincentDas
90% of their wage
twiggyboy12343
UK not England
T0go
sorry citizens of the untidy cucumber
ChrisScullion0
The sources used in this post are from Scottish newspapers!
Sordiy
But England is part of the uk...
DarnYouToHeck
But the UK isn't made up entirely by just England, and this is referring to a UK wide thing
gerberationbry
You'd think the link would give it away that it's not just little England...
BigFatBobbie
England is no longer united? What happened?
Jessioops
Devolution sort of
samueWebRunner
leethario695
Brexit
Midlands1234
Thank you
cnphilli
Hey, while your at it fix all of the other inaccuracies too. Like the fact that you ignored the existence of U.S. Unemployment Benefits.
cnphilli
you're*
Rihn
It may not mean much to some, but you took in and accepted new information. You even say thanks for a correction. You are a good person.
404fuk
Well your blatantly Scottish lol
Ronjemin
You're
twiggyboy12343
Welsh
iLikeTheShowCops
youngoldbravebold
Atlantic Archapeligo
KnightsOfShame
That map doesn’t show British Islands
KoRplussomeletters
"The British Isles" refers to Great Britain, Ireland and the small islands in the immediate area.
KnightsOfShame
Yeah, that’s what British Isles are, but there’s another designation, British Islands.
KnightsOfShame
https://kids.kiddle.co/images/thumb/3/35/British_Isles_terms.gif/318px-British_Isles_terms.gif
stinkbeaner
Apes, not monkeys
Blackjackal1122
Hey man. Apes are usually smarter than monkeys.
mrsuumellmahaye
Og
Swagosauruss
Actually he is saying 'Monkeys, not apes'
stinkbeaner
Good point
Safebox36
Doesn't apply to the whole of the UK I'm afraid. We've been told in NI that it may not apply...
Ronjemin
We getting it , the approach was a whole UK deal. Thankfully it's seems to be sorted for most people.
ASexualTyrannosaurus
My employer just paid me today on the back of this coming into force.
RicoVanMudd
Really???
IDontWatchDoctorWho
I’m in Co Down and I’m getting it next Friday??
ButterfaceTaintClown
UK including England.
Broken08
As an American.... Is there a difference?
GlowstickJedi
It would like saying 'Texas' instead of 'USA' in the last panel
kaztas
As an American...Jesus, yes.
TheRicM
In the global society we live in, you should learn up on the differences b/t UK, England, Great Britain, etc. It helps a lot to know
poscduke
The United Kingdom, or UK is England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland.
derscur
UK = England + Scotland + Wales + Northern Ireland
Somnipresent
As and Engishman, yes. We're the ones they all hate. So that's an easy way to piss them off. Something about taking over the world...
imgurusername7
It’s like the difference between the USA and North America
thedarksith
As an American.. don’t be a wanka.
Dissipo
Yes...its like saying every Hispanic is Mexican
sparesoft
The full name is “The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland”
fowlersleftfoot
Wot a wanker.
DeputyChiefJudgeFish
Not really. Welsh are alright, Scots don’t matter though.
AlexjoneswatchingTporn
onlylurkingbecauseimnotinternetsavvy
DeputyChiefJudgeFish
Scots don’t matter. Sooner we get shot of them the better.
ForFuThake
Fellow Scot here, get fucked.
DeputyChiefJudgeFish
Get outta the union you spongers. We’re sick of listening too you whine.
thatguyisreallydeep
How many countries are in this country? Four.
ForFuThake
First of all the UK isn’t a country. It’s a bunch of United Kingdoms. It’s in the name god damn it.
CaptinCuddles
Technically Wales is a principality, why the dragon isnt on the flag, and hence Prince Charles's title of prince of Wales
LetUsLearn
Man people got mad here lmao
Broken08
They really did!
Blundermore
Is there a difference between the USA and Mexico? You're the same thing arent you?
TheDrunkenHuntsman
At this point, not much. We're ran by a cartel and most of us live in poverty and love tacos.
Blundermore
This is sarcasm.
AbsolutelyNotTheNSA
No, this is Patrick.
reload2456
For us? No. For them? Yeah they all hate each other is my understanding so they don't like being lumped in together.
reload2456
Technically England is just one of many of their version of states but because it's the seat of the empire it's mostly synonymous
reload2456
All of the other states belong to the UK and the UK has its home and seat of power in England where it started.
scruffenheim
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom https://www.worldomet">_Kingdom">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom https://www.worldometers.info/geography/how-many-countries-are-there-in-the-world/
scruffenheim
Broken08
Sorry, I forget to put /s
tiberGameVillain
As an Englishman.. Nah not really.
Gherkincensed
Macish
Blundermore
Well we all know the English are pretty bad at remembering the rest of the members of the union its apart of...
ThrowawayWristwatch
I get gum stuck to my shoes sometimes too
Macish
The English are pretty bad at remembering anywhere outside of London is part of the Union. Don’t take it too personally.
ForFuThake
And you wonder why the rest of the UK hate u bunch of wanks
Psionickitten
Has the one time check for America even been approved? I'll believe it when I see it.
acegamer11712
It took two tries before it got passed in the senate, not sure what the progress outside of that is though.
Midlands1234
Good point
steerAwwPrincess
Australia? Fuck All
enchillita
I thought there was a housing cost freeze?
AnonKneeMoose
Only in SA.
enchillita
WA for sure got it too. Fucked that the whole country doesnt get it, since this is affecting everyone everywhere
AnonKneeMoose
Talking about it, but yeah LNP is the worst to have in power rn.
enchillita
All I know is that Scott Morrison is a world class joke, we're distracted with covid-19 now but havent forgotten about his failure
AnonKneeMoose
There's a 750 payment for those on welfare, 550 boost to 14-day payments for jobseekers/students. Not really 'fuck all'
AnonKneeMoose
Big issue is that it's fucking held up instead of being accessible >now
WilliamHuskerAdama
Norway: 100%
IWANTFUNNY
Nah, 80%
JustSittingHerePooping
— for 20 days, then the usual ~ 60%.
Begemot302
Norway: 100% paid by that sweet Brent
shroomelini
Yeah except for employed students. Like we worked out of fun not because we desperately needed the extra cash.
GotBannedForPostingAYoutubeLink
Yeah, but Norway owns something like 4% of all stock wealth on the planet.
WilliamHuskerAdama
1.4% but yeah. $1 trillion in assets
slightlysoggyasparagus
With significantly higher tax rate and significantly lower population and infrastructure to maintain. Also the US is giving 600 a month 1/2
slightlysoggyasparagus
For 4 months on top of the one time 1200. Obviously not the best, but it's more than enough to survive for most, which is the point.
WilliamHuskerAdama
600 per month is like, rent. The reason it doesn't work isn't population, it's greed and lack of income tax
XplodingLarsen
You should Google that higher tax rate nonsense. But yes we have lower pop. Infrastructure need to be looked at per.capita not $ for $
slightlysoggyasparagus
Ah, that's a bit more complicated than what I first thought it was.
Wargamez
US needs to worry more about people who lost their jobs or reduced hours. People who are still working 40+ hours at home don't need a check.
sharpiesarentsharp
If one gets free stuff we all get free stuff #metoo
Wargamez
But that would be socialism and we hate that. Right? Do we still hate that or are we cool with it now?
sharpiesarentsharp
Socialism is dumb. Don’t lean on the government for anything
IWasGoingToMakeEspresso
Ah, you’re right! Our roads can fix themselves.
ArmedandOverclocked
unemp has been expanded. Even "self employed" should qualify and people whose hours were cut. also there is a boost in weekly payments
Wargamez
And small businesses. Save them.
K2theAisle
Unemployment exists and it was enhanced in this bill as well.
CatsUpvoteTerror
That's why the increase unemployment benefits
Wargamez
That's good. Glad to hear they are.
readbackmonkey
Canada's $2K a month is only for people who lost their jobs or reduced their income as a result of Covid-19; not everyone.
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Terayon
It's not a loan, it's a similar program to employment insurance, it is taxable though as it's income.
cakemule
I was gonna say that this is wildly misleading
WizardofAnus
And basically everyone in the USA getting laid off will meet the requirements for unemployment during their layoff and will receive
WizardofAnus
unemployment checks from their state, if they apply for them. Typically in the $450/week range.
WellAckchually
"Typically in the $450/week range." Oh that's a good one. I got $93/week when I was on.
WizardofAnus
It depends on your state. Some are higher than what I quoted, some are lower.
WizardofAnus
Specifically, it comes down to what the big labor unions in your state agree upon being a good balance between tax up-front on payroll,
TheSneakThot
Shhhhh don’t use facts it’s shitting on America time
8008135calculator
Why would they give it to people who didn't lose their jobs?
FoxFyre
For these stress of having to deal with the public. That’s my personal reasoning. Danger pay.
ArsenicCapsule
Shit thing is I've been jobless since about February. Now nobody is hiring. Can't qualify for E.I (unemployment) because I was on a severanc
FallingStar7669
Also, the American stimulus bill allows for up to $600 a week for some people for the next few months.
Blurr7face
pretty clear it means everyone who needs it. no one just gives out 2000 dollars to 37 million people
funyoungman
I mean the US is doing just that. It's a funny rant because in many ways the US has passed more generous benefits.
RebelSkull
Today I was told my company is reducing our income by > 25%. My pregnant gf just totaled her car last Friday (she’s ok, so is baby). The >
RebelSkull
> US needs to get its act together. Trump is such a shitty leader and it’s directly affecting everyone in the country.
TheresnoDanaonlyZuul
I’m quite happy to pay my taxes right now to help everyone
watgula9
I talked with CRA after 4hr wait. They created an account. They said losing 40% or more income I qualify when April comes for self employed
barbarian818
I'm disappointed by that. The original pair of plans would have doubled our baby bonus and GST rebates. New plan gives me nothing because I
barbarian818
am on disability and my wife doesn't work so she can care for my son and I.
GhostMutGaming
Aame as for England and Denmark (at least for Denmark), and we have 80% in Sweden as well.
Prinzka
and not for small business owners, independent contractors.
atvan99
Plus Employment Insurance, plus provincial cheques. So more like $5000 a month.
ProcyonGhost
We can do it april 6th online.. And I'm pretty sure it's gonna be a mess
Coyotebd
Nor should it be. I'm still working, don't need $2k.
speershawks
It's a good fuckin gesture. Makes me glad our country has my back in these times.
catsandbeerandbeerandcats
Yeah but for those of us who have already applied for EI, sounds like we're not eligible for it now. My EI payments will barely pay my 1/?
catsandbeerandbeerandcats
Bills. 2k/month and I could feed myself as well. Wish they'd been a little quicker on the announcement for this one. I still think the 2/3
catsandbeerandbeerandcats
Gov't is doing a pretty good job at handling this 3/3
SaintCody
As it should be
irritatedbartender
It is literally for anyone who is no longer able to work due to Covid-19. I’d say it’s pretty damn comprehensive.
NoonaComputerTerror
Which is better than based in 2018 tax returns which have no correlation to your current situation. Hmmm
RedIronCrown
I'd imagine 2018 tax returns have a very high correlation with people's current situation. Not perfect but very high.
Ameatyloaf
So...the ines who need it?
notyoursdonttouch
even than only for the maximum of 14 weeks
LookingForWorkInColorado
So just the people who need it? Got it.
bobsvagenecatsdogsredheadscosplaypuffins
Covid 19 will not kill America. Stupidity will.
rippednbuff
Shhhh you’ll ruin the propaganda machine and how they are trying to belittle America.
SuperIncoherentRantingMan
Still sounds infinitely better than the US strategy of pocket change for citizens and buku bucks for big business.
crisscross98
Wait, america is giving everyone 1200$ even if they still have their job?
SaintCody
Sounds like it. Which i don't get. Also sounds like you don't have to accept it, and will have to pay it back if you do.
SaintCody
So maybe it's more of an offer to anybody that might need it, because I'm sure there are people effected without having lost their jobs.
IAmAGoldenGOD
Uuuuh when will I be getting this 2K/month? Where do I sign up?
wipethatfaceoffyourheadbitch
Are you actually asking? Because it’s been all over the news every day if you care to pay attention. Website goes live in April.
IAmAGoldenGOD
I guess I was, but more in a “oh shit for real” kinda way, cuz google answered real quick for me. Thanks though.
SuperIncoherentRantingMan
I'd assume the same place you apply for your unemployment benefits.
bobthebob1
Student who work part time and have nothing to pay will receive 2k. 1/2
bobthebob1
I will receive 2k. I have to pay house, car etc.. and feed 5 persons. ?!?!?
RedIronCrown
Are your lenders not deferring payments? Most are, definitely worth a call.
bobthebob1
For march i'm ok. I'll defenitely call some of them on april. f##k this shit. :(
mrmayortheiv
To be fair, as someone who is still able to work full time from home with reasonable job security.... I'd rather have real money allocated
mrmayortheiv
To people who have lost their jobs than a small amount given to everyone, even if I only benefit from the second case.
SpaceGK
Btw, here in Ontario, Canada only essential businesses are still open. I work in automotive steel blanking plant. Apparently it's essential.
superllamabatman
well whats canadas contagion situation? aussies get 550 p/f under the same proviso but theres lots of infected so everyones at home
LittleVanillaBean12
Sooooo. Those who need it.
CelticCommando
I'm a student who had a job lined up for the summer unofficially, but is now up shit creek, no summer income now, might be homeless
SarcasticLoudmouth
Apply for unemployment. Better than nothing
CelticCommando
I can't, I wasn't technically employed in the lat 4 weeks
GenStrike
If you're in Ontario, be advised that your landlord has no legal right to evict you right now: The board isn't hearing cases.
Embercrest
Yeah, jobs that were temp, or under "freelancer/contractor" won't count either
mike772
No, if you were in-between jobs you don't get it because you weren't working. Doesn't matter if you worked the last 15 years you're fucked.
PickledOpinions
Well, at least we have social programs for people in such a position.
WhatImmadoboutmylegs
Those people should be EI eligible for the most part.
mike772
If 4 weeks have elapsed before you apply odds are you wont get EI. Might be different now but those people are probs still screwed.
JottDanielberg
Right. I get MN 740, fed1200 plus 600 a week, plus 500 for each kid. 4600$ first month! USA USA!!
22960556
Yea and 2k will pay my month of rent in a 30 year old building for a 1 bedroom.
CatastrophicUnicornAttack
I could be getting 2 grand :c
stardewvalley28
Yea you still have to apply and get approved for it
Ensano
it's a step forward. hopefully it could jumpstart UBI
0ctanee
Aaaand isn't that ei,. Max pay out? So you have to earn at least like $900 ish a week to reach max pay out being 2k/mobth from it.
lupinic
Just waiting for it all to actually get sorted out...still waiting on our overwhelmed EI system. The phone line just disconnects on you rn.
howlpendragon
Canada's is also a loan, iirc. We have to pay it back later. It's not free oney.
howlpendragon
money* damnit
irritatedbartender
You’re absolutely wrong about that.
oooohgawwwwd
Source? Cause everywhere I read about that 200$/mo is NOT a loan. It is taxable though
oooohgawwwwd
2000 dammit
hairytrigga
Thanks to Dougie practically 80% of the workforce is essential so not everyone will be getting that money in Ontario.
contheartist
Even in "essential" businesses there are people that have been laid off. Like the vast majority of the bar and restaurant employees.
youreathing
So, that's not true, and doesn't account for the vast numbers of people in essential roles (like me) that can work 100% from home.
youreathing
I'm also not a fan of any of the Fords by any stretch, by the way.
rizion
Hey man Bars can now bring the beers and wings to my house so pros and cons eh
tufkab
The list states who is required to shut down and who isn’t. Just because you aren’t REQUIRED to shut down doesn’t meant you aren’t ALLOWED.
hairytrigga
Unless Jim Lahey is Premier the liquor stores shouldn't be essential.
fembot42
Its more that the province needs the revenue. Especially in times like this when $ is needed for healthcare.
youreathing
It's actually more that the healthcare system shouldn't be loaded with people suffering from alcohol related ailments.
BoboTheeHobo
People would suffer from alcohol withdrawal cutting it cold turkey like that. Itd burden the hospitals even more if that happened.
youreathing
This is really short-sighted.
tufkab
If the liquor stores were to be closed, society would have meltdown; anyone that says otherwise is living in a dream world.
ElbowDeepInAPoliceState
The SAQ is closed in Quebec, life has gone on
SnossedAndLost
What happens if you quit your job before it started but cant get a new one due to it?
Numero34
Also for only up to 4 months. While I can't confirm this, I'm thinking it's probably up to $2k/month, and not $2k guaranteed.
rizion
And have applied for EI
JayEnfield
And it lasts 4 months.
waitwhat1234
I'm able to work from home, thus getting a regular paycheck so I don't need it. Give it to the people who do. Democratic socialism does work
Enditallalready
Are you saying democratic socialism does or does not work
paragraph
Meanwhile someone in the US still able to work from home making above the median income will get $1,200
BrokenSpork
My Personal take on this as well. My company is stable and still operational. If i were to get money it would go right to supporting /1
BrokenSpork
my parents and others who needs it more. But what will happen to those on CPP needing to spend more on deliveries? they need help even more
morphire
Yeah, if we as a nation are going to bounce back from this, people need a basic income to make it through.
atvan99
Is that democratic socialism?
somethingfunandwitty
Same. I work in essential service and my bf can work from home. We’re super fortunate. I dread the people that will take advantage of this.
wipethatfaceoffyourheadbitch
Same. My husband is urging me to get it anyway since I might qualify as a small business but I don’t feel I need it. Its just not nice to do
krasuesatanica
It’s worth applying!
wipethatfaceoffyourheadbitch
We’ll see if my workload eventually dries up. As of now I can survive on a strict budget for another 6 mos from my current business account
MoonMoan
These policies are put in place for you. Take it. Make the most of it. You can always put it towards other people not so fortunate!
balasjones
I will take your trump bucks if you dont need them
waitwhat1234
I'm in Canada, so it's Trudeau Toonies.
VidiVeniThenSheLeft
*Trudollars
balasjones
We miss you brother. Lets meet up at niagra falls and stare longingly across it
TheGypsyKingg
Also those not applicable for EI. The rates paid on that system are generally much less on average. 28 day waiting period cripples people1/2
RedIronCrown
They've both relaxed the requirements to be eligible and waived the waiting period, please read a bit before spreading misinformation.
TheGypsyKingg
The waiting period refers to how soon in the claim benefits start. The 28 day "standard" for applications still exist. I've been on the 1/2
TheGypsyKingg
Phone with them all week, so I'm relaying facts.
Punkrocksocks
Thanks for reading AND spreading information.
TheGypsyKingg
For sure, not a problem.
GirthBrookss
I called to get the week waived and they said they only would if I was told by a health official to stay home due to symptoms.
TheGypsyKingg
Use the online self assessment tool. It'll suggest what steps you should take, including calling Telehealth. If they recommend quarantine1/2
TheGypsyKingg
Who are living pay to pay also forcing most people to not even apply for EI. Used it once in my life and waited 2.5 months to see a dime.
KatGillsandPie
Those who can apply for EI can also be CERB applicants. Source: https://www.canada.ca/en/department-finance/news/2020/03/introd
catsandbeerandbeerandcats
Yup. 55percent of your income is going to be crippling for me. Better than nothing. They have waived the waiting period. That being said
catsandbeerandbeerandcats
The system has gone from 27k applications a month to nearly a million. Even with no waiting period, it's gonna take time to work through it
catsandbeerandbeerandcats
Last l saw yesterday....they'd processed about 150k, which seems pretty good for a week.
BigFatBobbie
I waited five months. I was starving and almost homeless. Ten years ago I was Skinny Bob.
mediumsizedtittycommittee
LittleSkinnyBobbie
BigFatBobbie
My tits were down to medium size, so I was on YOUR committee!
TheGypsyKingg
Exactly man, 2.5 was me fighting with them for ages also. By the time I realized it was going to get that bad I was already waiting 1/2
TheGypsyKingg
To a point that my need for the money was very desperate. I lost so much weight and got so sick...
DoggoPicsMakeMeHungry
These countries aren't just entities with limitless resources. They're borrowing against the future money they are siphoning off their
jimmityjammity
It's a hell of a lot cheaper long term than NOT doing this and letting your economy fully collapse across most sectors.
DoggoPicsMakeMeHungry
economies. This may be practical, but it's in no way virtuous to mortgage your children's future to protect yourself financially.
LurkerOfDarkness
You're forgetting some vital info here, letting the economy sink is vastly more expensive than these policies, so yeah it's not free, but 1/
DoggoPicsMakeMeHungry
Like I said, it may be practical, but that doesn't make it virtuous.
LurkerOfDarkness
It's more virtuous than to leave a ruined economy for the next generations, DK has been through some tough financial spots over the 1/?
LurkerOfDarkness
Years, last time was in the 80's which was a decade of hardship as the govt. Turned things around. And since then changing govts. Have 2/?
LurkerOfDarkness
It's the cheapest option still. 2/2
spaizkadett
Nope, Denmark is in fact a very rich Social Democratic country. Go figure!
DoggoPicsMakeMeHungry
Unless you're experiencing uncontrolled hyperinflation, the resources Denmark is using is tax revenue and borrowing. No matter what form
DoggoPicsMakeMeHungry
of government it is.
spaizkadett
You obviously know nothing at all whatsoever about my country. Go look it up if you dare to read about how a country really should be run.
DoggoPicsMakeMeHungry
Lol. So you know your LOWEST marginal tax rate is "39.8596% (34.63% for unemployed)" and highest is 55.8584%, right? Like I fucking said!!!!