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harpo3000
"I can't hold that knife in my tiny hands. Miller, you psycho, you can do it."
DamnWhales
Noone thinking about how some could kidnap this guy and have codes for nukes.....
TheZade
Sucks for that guy... He can never go home or sleep or go on vacation. At least the briefcase system allows for the people to switch off
Enderskild
I feel like maybe this would make it hard to change the codes?
azgrak
And where Obama personally approved most military strikes. Trump has turned over those decisions to his generals. His 1st killed 100 people.
DespiseEveryone
Obama also approved a more aggressive policy which increased the number of civilian deaths vs the strategy under Bush. But hey, facts.
MarioBoon
The "Less dead American soldiers" policy?
DespiseEveryone
Reduced the criteria for other people present at a target location to be consider acceptable. basically easier killing of innocents.
ReduntantOffender
"Dear producers of the 'Saw' franchise. Love your movies! I think about them a lot and have SO many great ideas to share with you..."
SeaSaltIce0
Meanwhile every other country just has to push a fucking and the U.S has to play fucking operation to find the codes next the heart 1/2
SeaSaltIce0
If it's even still there...yeah great idea we will be dead before we can even launch or shit 2/2
cogitoro
This is a great idea for a cool paragraph that makes you think and a horrible idea for a policy that misunderstands the Presidency.
MrSchway
Heyyy the Leftovers
kgbishop
Love it
WeirdStealth
Can we do that with the potus's Twitter account passwords as well?
Zreen
KALIMAAAAAAH
stoots24
SHUCK-DEE-DAY!!!
Synt3xf
The bagman would just do it
punatrav
cocovangogh
how would you prevent someone from kidnapping the volunteer and taking the codes for themselves?
spiffylookingnerfherder
Probably the same secret service who protect the briefcase used currently.
DonPense
It really comes down to how annoying the code bearer is...
wellju
It would be cool if ya'll could make sure next time the POTUS is qualified to command that military and not elect the biggest moron out of u
brotherblue
Could the president volunteer?
findlesticks
Don't you need new codes every day?
ProfessorTenebrae
No. During the cold war the code was all zeros for simplicity.
boneh3ad
Anyone else notice that the name of the person making this proposal changed from Roger to George to Richard?
grifmoney
That's because Roger doesn't want to be the volunteer.
Cpink123
George was meant to be the arbitrary name of the volunteer.
Cpink123
Shit just realized other person commented this first. I'm going back to bed.
ThatswhatIwasthinking
That's what I was thinking
SheaBriar
It's weird how many people share your lack of reading comprehension, judging by the upvotes.
ocelot77
I did but George is the supposed innocent volunteer.
NZSheeps
And I think Richard is quoting Roger
boneh3ad
George does seem to be the innocent volunteer but Richard's use of the first person implies he is Roger.
EricFromAccounts
"This is Under, over."
SoapyMammaryMasturbation
Roger: The guy making the proposal. George: The Hypothetical guy in the proposal. Richard: The author of the book that the quote is from.
kerbonkers
You get out of here with your logic, young man.
boneh3ad
It seems you are right about George, but it definitely uses Richard and Roger as the same person based.
SoapyMammaryMasturbation
Well, then, Roger Fisher is the guy, since I know he's an actual person who made this proposal.
rossalupus
If their enemies had already launched their nukes though, this would just be a waste of time in the race to launch our own before we go boom
HOOMANGUY
Yeah but by that logic he would need to do that before any normal missile ore drone strike or even just sending troops too.
spiffylookingnerfherder
The reasoning is that with such large numbers of civilian casualties, nuclear war is entirely different to killing a few hundred.
Gawky
Maybe we should just make all military attacks part of the public debate, you know transparency and all that
CommentBot3000
This is real? This was an element in an episode of "The Leftovers", they called it the Fisher doctrine.
OmerShalom
Good to know Im not the only one who thought of that
theTAUSonMangoSt
What a show...
LetMeSeeYourMultiPass
Loved this past season, but was somewhat disappointed with the lose ends.. wanted to know what everyones story was
thegriffin88
The Cold War was crazy.
TheQ
This is also where I first heard of this concept. Somehow i think it would turn out similar in reality.
HypotheticalQuotes
Do it so we never have to come back to this place.
PlausiblePolarbear
I knew I would find a Leftovers reference somewhere... Sorry to be this person but *Fisher Protocol
CommentBot3000
Ahh, yes.
azuka625
Was looking for this exact comment
LocutusOfBored
It was amazing. But my thought was, should the "key" go inside the President>?
ImguriansFillMySaltReservoir
Literally the only episode I saw. Not one lick of sense in the entire episode.
ShotGaming
That's like picking a random page in a book and saying it doesn't make sense. Start from the start! It's a great show
ImguriansFillMySaltReservoir
I could read a single page of a book backwards and it would make more sense than that episode.
CommentBot3000
Well, that episode builds heavily on other episodes, so it makes sense it didn't make sense.
kingofusersub
One of the most intense scences in the show
LocutusOfBored
SPOILERS http://imgur.com/ZG5laqr
ParkDispatch
In a show full of ridiculously intense scenes.
millMx
What happens if a nuke was launched at the US?....."sorry bro but.....I'm gunna be needing those codes now" -potus probably
spiffylookingnerfherder
Yeah, that's the point.
ImALovah
The Leftovers anyone?
juliendg137
Before volunteering to anything like this, keep in mind that Trump is the president now
NZSheeps
And the volunteer will be next to him with a large butchers knife....
Cyanide555
So put the codes in trumps heart instead. Pretty sure his ego won't let him die to save anyone
juliendg137
I did know he had ego,but I'm still not sure about heart
wilsonflanges
Well, I would strangle the guy first before hacking open his chest. More humane that way.
thor0486
You do realize strangling someone takes way longer than what it appears to in the movies? coupled with staring them in the eyes? you cold.
tthbth
but not half as cool as getting a capsule from a blood pumping heart ;)
FckyourselfSarah
This ignores the armed men surrounding the president who are often legally required to follow his orders.
flacoloco
Lawful Orders
Tisbutafleshwound
Cyanide capsule?
chepeweb
If done in a modern way, the code would be a pill as NFC tag inside the guy
SviXXie
Strangle me father
Necromartian
Strangle me fren.
ShouldersDeepInAHorse
Strangle me over and over agen.
Drewsifer
Or Just, you know, use the butcher knife to cut his throat. Bleeding out is slightly easier than feeling your ESOPHAGUS COLAPSE
elninjapenguin
I would go all Temple of Doom. No need to carry anything around. "Kali maa! KALI MAA!"
joedirty1
Don't forget to bleed him out the halal way too
youcanreachmenow
Reading the comments section on this website leaves me with more questions about people than answers
EatingFiftyBagels
Yeh but you'd be killing the fun of it too
wafflesandpuppies
Daddy
MightyGlowCloud
Just because there's less blood doesn't mean it feels better. A whack in the head with a cleaver is certainly faster.
ImgursLibertarian
I mean if you're in the blast radius of a nuke... you don't even know it happened.
IOnceOwnedMoonMoonButOnceHeTriedToLickMyBallsAndRanAwayIMissHim
The trouble Is most of the casualties won't be in the blast radius. Burn injuries, radiation exposure, the works.
ImgursLibertarian
Go full Tzar Bomba?
IOnceOwnedMoonMoonButOnceHeTriedToLickMyBallsAndRanAwayIMissHim
It won't change anything. Just the initial fireball and explosion size would kill loads more people, but the increased radiation fallout (1)
IOnceOwnedMoonMoonButOnceHeTriedToLickMyBallsAndRanAwayIMissHim
would kill far more greater people. That was the reason why the Soviets reduced the testing yield by 50%, because they were afraid of it.(2)
Jacxy
“Bali Mathi Kali Ma, Shakthi Digi Kali Ma…Kali Ma…Kali Ma!!!”
Jacxy
Om namah shivay! Om namah shivay! Om namah shivay! Om Namah Shivay!Om Namah Shivay!OM Namah Shivay!!OMNAMAHSHIVAY!!OMNAMAHSHIVAY!!!!!!!!!!!!
aRepost
Don't forget the reach around.
RevanTheJedi
HEXADECIMAL
crucifiedpotato
aRepost
Stephen Fry never forgets the reach around.
JackBurtonME
Seems like that hasn't been necessary
TheSpaghettiPolicy
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/290217-scarborough-trump-asked-about-adviser-about-using-nuclear
wormfood
Seems like the history of the Cold War and the Cuban middle crisis has shown that it would take a real psycho to launch. Cue Kim Jong Un
JackBurtonME
Yeah the one lunatic nobody is doing much about
GnomeDeGuerre
The experiment is still running.
HeatLegend
bazam! good one
HelloMax
Ya, what if someone attacks unprovoked? "Sorry man, you know the drill. I've gotta take you out to respond to this."
SJohnson23
Trump would have the knife ready at all times. "It's a beautiful blade. Just the finest."
JackBurtonME
Of course that's why he's launched all the missiles already
SJohnson23
That's right, he has: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/05/25/world/middleeast/airstrikes-iraq-syria-civilian-casualties.html?_r=0
JackBurtonME
That's a pretty good civilian casualty rate for firing all the nukes
TheSublimelyMagnificentJechtUsernameMarkIII
"Mr president, Russia has fired nuclear missiles at us" "hold on I need to kill this person first and dig out the codes before we retaliate"
Azrael715
I mean, they'd be dead either way. At that point. Who gives a shit?
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ekzeko
There's been false readings on both sides, A radar update made the sunrise on clouds look like a Missile volley to the US system once.
Mumalot
99 Red Balloons, most of the song is about misinterpreting the innocent-99balloons as missiles instead; thus causing a War.
Mumalot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-qfzH0vnOs I know the original is sung by Nena... but I strongly prefer Goldfinger's cover :).
Doopapotamus
"Shit, I went too deep, and I hit the code capsule. Do we have a spare?" "WHY DID YOU--" "I'M NOT A DOCTOR! I'M A PRESID--" *nuclear flame*
fokuroku
White House Down, literally
Eli93
Well currently it would be "I'm not a doctor I'm a scam artist!"
RachTrap
no it would be, "I know the best doctors."
ParagonofPlot
Russia is/was the only country that uses a "must-deny" system; everyone else realizes how stupid it is. Everyone else has "must-confirm".
supersomatic
Which bruce willis movie did you get that gem from
Counterfit
*click* "Sir, turn your key"
Isometimesupvotereposts
War games?
CocaineAndSelfPleasure
Can you elaborate for the uninitiated?
LlamaLingo
.
ParagonofPlot
counter the US's superior missile and bomber tech, but was incredibly unsafe and dangerous as it could easily be triggered wrongly (and 4/X
ParagonofPlot
US, France etc. however use a system where commanders and silos MUST receive authorization from the CoC to fire. DMH was designed to 3/X
ParagonofPlot
missiles and bombers without direct authorization from the Kremlin if they suspect/see a strike, such as if they lose comms with Kremlin 2/X
ParagonofPlot
Sometimes called "Dead Man's Hand", the USSR/RU is thought to employ a system where their commanders/systems automatically launch their 1/X
ParagonofPlot
it almost was one time). It is unknown if Russia still uses DMH or if they've abandoned it in favor of a safer and saner system.
CocaineAndSelfPleasure
Ahh, I knew about this but I thought you were referring to a system of denial. Like as opposed to two people turning keys in the US etc.
CocaineAndSelfPleasure
Thanks for the response!
MerToo
lol, by the time you're considering retaliation, what's the point? You're dead AF, MAD's failed so further ruining the planet is a dick move
CrossFire49
You retaliate because a country crazy enough to first strike with nukes is crazy enough to do it to other countries afterwards.
thrustmaster16000
MAD is what kept the cold war from going further. Also if you don't retaliate what's to stop the country from nuking another easier target?
whoopsywoo
The thing about MAD is it only works if you swear your crazy enough to retaliate.
Mitchz95
But if you can't retaliate, MAD doesn't apply and there's nothing to stop someone from nuking you.
MerToo
I'll explain it again. If you're considering retaliating, then MAD has failed so clearly there was nothing to stop someone nuking you
Mitchz95
But if you can retaliate, you won't have to, because there won't have been a first strike at all.
MerToo
ever wonder why anti-ballistic missile systems cause so much terror?
DarthFutuza
In otherwords: its better to let Russia win and survive than take them out with you.