Due to segregation, black people could only be mess specialists, shopkeepers, and a couple of other menial rates. The chief steward for a USNS ship I worked on was a WW2 veteran. He ran a tight mess.
During the attack Miller was carrying the wounded to safety. After his commander was mortally wounded Miller then manned a . 50-caliber antiaircraft gun, for which he had no training, and continued firing on the enemy until he ran out of ammunition and received the order to abandon ship.
I don't recall hearing that and haven't been able to find anything about it, but it's not impossible. I do see the initial Navy response was a simple letter of commendation which would have passed unnoticed if not for a stateside paper with a large black audience that spotted the mention of "an unknown [Black] soldier" in the official list of commendations from Dec 7. They went digging for his name, then led a campaign to upgrade the award to a well-deserved Navy Cross for extraordinary heroism.
I had to do an evaluation recently that involved me giving as man "boy's names" as I could think of in 30 seconds. The person doing the evaluation prefaced the question with "I know this is outdated and weird, but we have to do it", so I went with as many gender-neutral and formerly masculine names as I could manage. Thankfully she thought it was funny instead of, like, purposely failing at something or being purely belligerent lol
Leslie, Ashley, and Tracy too. I've only known 1 dude named Leslie, and another named Tracy. The rest, I haven't seen (unless you count Ashley Wilkes in Gone With The Wind)
No idea. Our whole concept of gendered names is pretty interesting considering there are plenty of examples of boys names that are now almost exclusively girls names.i imagine they go the other way too but Kelly comes to mind.
The presidents that the other Ford Class carriers are named after (Kennedy and Ford) were both in the Navy during WW2 and Kennedy has a purple heart. A quick read of his assignments will tell you he wasn't tucked away. He was awarded the Navy and Marine Corp medal for his actions when his PT boat was destroyed and the purple heart is awarded for being wounded due to the actions of the enemy.
The other ships in the Ford class are the Gerald R. Ford (CVN-78), the John F. Kennedy (-79), and the Enterprise (-80). Two presidents, the mf'in USS ENTERPRISE, and Doris Miller. That's dope as hell.
It makes up some for naming one after the black civil rights opposing John Stennis. (CVN-74) It should've been renamed. Fucker even signed the Southern Manifesto. I've been calling it the traitor ship for years.
Kalmbach
One of the few things in that movie that was accurate.
Zuegma197777
Admiral Chester W. Nimitz pins Navy Cross on Doris Miller, at ceremony on board the USS Enterprise (CV-6) at Pearl Harbor, May 27, 1942
discospider13
He has a memorial in Waco TX where he was from. Very nice spot that does him justice
LittleMathCat
It is very nice. And the YMCA there is named after him, too.
Coinvillan
Im always surprised when I see people still use Twitter
frothymuffinman
I was "assigned" Dorie's dog tags at the WWII museum in New Orleans. Such an emotional trip, I highly recommend that museum.
evoroadster
A true American Hero. He stepped up when he saw the need.
Stanistani
@OP: https://www.history.navy.mil/content/history/nhhc/browse-by-topic/diversity/african-americans/miller/doris-millers-navy-cross-citation.html Don't use Twitter, pls.
QuietAntagonist
Part of navy boot camp "battle ships" is based off of his achievements. It's meant to teach recruits how to be a real sailor.
Mewmus
He has a memorial dedicated to him in Waco, i believe he was from there
TouchMyInfection
Cuba also portrayed another Navy legend, Master Chief Carl Brashear.
jbirdbarth
Men of Honor, for those wondering
HelpfulCorn
That was a great movie
CopInTheUSA
Men of Honor. such a wonderful film
InfOracle
I want me 3 steps, cookie!!!
ViktorDrasix
That was a truly powerful scene. And I think both actors acted the fuck out of that. CGJ was perfect for that role, hands down.
Vokrent
I thought Master Chief's name was John. /s
Bondsmith10
This person 117s
Vokrent
I'm a pretty cool guy
IceNein
Due to segregation, black people could only be mess specialists, shopkeepers, and a couple of other menial rates. The chief steward for a USNS ship I worked on was a WW2 veteran. He ran a tight mess.
AdrianDunne
When was that?
IceNein
I wanna say 1999 ish. Yes, he was old as shit, I want to say late 80s, 90. Most of the crew on USNS ships are civilian merchant marines.
AdrianDunne
That's much later than I expected you to say. Must have been a tough guy for that many years worth of wear.
IceNein
Yeah, I think he was still working because he’d been divorced 5 times or something, or at least that’s what I’d heard. Maybe he just liked the life.
newtonsbucket
smol flex. i was in this movie.
elife1975
Cuba?!
newtonsbucket
Industrial Light & Magic. I'm basically every guy, in the really wide shots, splashing around in the water.
newtonsbucket
*In white! There were a few other folks in blue, and khaki.
KingsContrivance
Just aim and shoot
daverbeans
Some say if you stand where he stood that day you can still feel the residual BDE.
MarkiusFox
Call your Senator and Representative, implore to them that you want to see CK2 Miller honored with the Medal of Honor.
DumPutz
Waco has a statue or park for him now.
sherlockhooves
One of the only things Bay got right
csalome09
I never post but he is from my hometown of Waco, Texas and we are super proud of him.
AlvaBlack
That's not a rifle... but that dude IS a badass
zHurk777
The 50 Cal Isn't A Rifle !!! - magas.
FlyingTigerRose
During the attack Miller was carrying the wounded to safety. After his commander was mortally wounded Miller then manned a . 50-caliber antiaircraft gun, for which he had no training, and continued firing on the enemy until he ran out of ammunition and received the order to abandon ship.
ToxicAvengerNJ
I could only wish to be this badass. As a Navy vet he is regarded as a hero. Def deserves the recognition
TheQuietHunter
So many honorable men in American military history. This one stands out though. Absolute unit.
HeRulesWithARubberFist
At the WW2 museum in New Orleans they have a great display about Dorie Miller. This man was incredible
TinoEightySecond
There isn't an aircraft carrier big enough worthy of his name
jinbee
https://youtu.be/SsPrQgTO0HU "I need you like Cuba Gooding needed a bigger part, he's way better than Ben Affleck"
azzabat
If I recall correctly, after the attack he was put on a charge for using a weapon he wasn’t qualified to to use.
BTanner13000
No, that's not true, historical revisionism
Meltemi
I don't recall hearing that and haven't been able to find anything about it, but it's not impossible. I do see the initial Navy response was a simple letter of commendation which would have passed unnoticed if not for a stateside paper with a large black audience that spotted the mention of "an unknown [Black] soldier" in the official list of commendations from Dec 7. They went digging for his name, then led a campaign to upgrade the award to a well-deserved Navy Cross for extraordinary heroism.
MissDeeMeanor
Back when Doris (and Shirley and Carrol and Evelyn) were boys names.
yallmfsneedjesus
My gramma was born in 36 and ger name is Doris. So maybe unisex for a while.
Tisimish
I had to do an evaluation recently that involved me giving as man "boy's names" as I could think of in 30 seconds. The person doing the evaluation prefaced the question with "I know this is outdated and weird, but we have to do it", so I went with as many gender-neutral and formerly masculine names as I could manage. Thankfully she thought it was funny instead of, like, purposely failing at something or being purely belligerent lol
JustaSimplePlumber
My ex-mother in law and my best friend’s father share the same given name… Merle always thought that was a weird name but a unisex one?
Cargobiker530
Leslie was a boys name in 1940.
ThePunishersVengefulBrother
When was Leslie Nielson born?
PlanckEraWasMyBestEra
And Leslie Jordan (yay! rip <3) and Leslie Graham (boo)
Miyamotofan
There's a trend that names starts off masculine, become unisex, and then eventually majority feminine. These are good examples.
GreaseMonkeyOfLove
I’ve known 4 Courtneys, 2 were male.
LaCantaloupeMisanthrope
Whitney and Sandy as well 😁
TooSoonOldTooLateSmart
And Lynn.
Tobecontinued1992
Think britney too
TheSilverSeraph
And in at least one famous case, Marion as well
Burgundee
Two cases. There's also Marion Motley of the Cleveland Browns. He made the name Marion sound bad-ass.
bippityboppitybuttsex
And Carol in another...
TooSoonOldTooLateSmart
Marion Robert Morrison (May 26, 1907 – June 11, 1979), professionally known as John Wayne. And 1960s NFL player Carroll Dale.
TooSoonOldTooLateSmart
Oh, and actor Carroll O'Connor (All in the Family).
WeAreAllStoriesInTheEnd
And a boy named Sue
DarkSock
Surely you must be joking…
BrokenTimeMachine
I'm not joking, and don't call me Shirley...
DarkSock
But I Carol Lot...
UmbrellaLampshade
... and don't call me Shirley
FloatingOnACloudOfTitties
Thewayofthebear
Marion too, just ask John Wayne
avvar
Leslie, Ashley, and Tracy too. I've only known 1 dude named Leslie, and another named Tracy. The rest, I haven't seen (unless you count Ashley Wilkes in Gone With The Wind)
cuzitsthere
Uhm, Ashley fucking Williams?!
Gvilain
everyone knows one dude named Leslie
mynamespaul
They’re all still unisex names at least?
gamblingpoet
This is an interesting graph. Not sure how accurate tho
KingMagenta
Looks like they sourced the SSA. https://www.ssa.gov/oact/babynames/index.html
somnif
I knew a male Lauren in grad school, he usually went by Larry though.
indigogrrl
I've seen it as Loren (male) and Lauren (female).
ZOMGNO
I knew a Loren girl. Lauren is from "Laurel", is it not? a tree? I don't see why plants are gendered.
indigogrrl
No idea. Our whole concept of gendered names is pretty interesting considering there are plenty of examples of boys names that are now almost exclusively girls names.i imagine they go the other way too but Kelly comes to mind.
putcleverusernamehere
Here's an *actual* source (Twitter isn't a source)
putcleverusernamehere
LOL I suppose you actually expect a link so here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doris_Miller?wprov=sfti1
ryukochan
putcleverusernamehere
All right all right, quit yer whining: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doris_Miller?wprov=sfti1
evilspock
You had one job.
putcleverusernamehere
Indeed. Stir of my life. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doris_Miller?wprov=sfti1
keyblader1985
WitchCityHound
Where?
putcleverusernamehere
I can neither confirm nor deny that in my haste I may have forgotten the link. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doris_Miller?wprov=sfti1
bippityboppitybuttsex
Here's his Navy Cross citation: https://www.history.navy.mil/content/history/nhhc/browse-by-topic/diversity/african-americans/miller/doris-millers-navy-cross-citation.html
ryukochan
Thanks!
FrostyRaptor
He's getting a carrier in his name. Ships named after enlisted have great history.
JohnSmithterms
That's great. Hows the healthcare thing going in America? You guys got it yet?
risqueorindecent
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itwasababyox
THIS ENORMOUS HERO WILL DEVOUR US ALL!
deject3000
deject3000
It’s worth noting that most US nuclear powered carriers (though not all by any means) have been named after presidents.
unluckyandbored
Cool
MajorasFlipFlops
Oh hell yes. I wish that carrier the best of luck, and may she always take her Sailors home.
EndarSpire
Fair winds and following seas
mtzdoe
Holy shit fuck yeah carriers are usually named after presidents
lrateyourrig
I just read this in a wiki hole. Holy shit that's amazing and well earned.
buddabopp
Cant wait to see what kind of shipgirl it gets turned into ;p
Xelada
So, how long until one of those "turn ships into big tiddie anime girls" games turns her into one of those aforementioned big tiddie anime girls?
Gherkincensed
So wait Doris not Dorie?
Peekari
Ships are referred to with female pronouns
thatshytidontlike
I like turtles.
Jonesso
personal favorite is still the story of the USS Johnston, not because of the story behind it's name but rather the insane actions of it's crew
alexcoldt
The greatest honor the Navy can bestow.
WilliamHuskerAdama
Naming an instrument of destruction after you
LyraTheLycan
And they're going to use that ship in his name, to what? Kill more people? Solid.
TheDaharMaster
Oooo I like that:)
JohnnyLawlessEsq
A whole-ass aircraft carrier? Usually only presidents and corrupt senators get those.
lurkerconvert
Idk why I’m crying my eyes out right now. Well earned!!! Thank you for this info!
ItsACrazyWorld
That's how it should be. Not after presidents who are safely tucked away in the white house sending young men to die for this nation's greed.
SurfinBerd
The presidents that the other Ford Class carriers are named after (Kennedy and Ford) were both in the Navy during WW2 and Kennedy has a purple heart. A quick read of his assignments will tell you he wasn't tucked away. He was awarded the Navy and Marine Corp medal for his actions when his PT boat was destroyed and the purple heart is awarded for being wounded due to the actions of the enemy.
DKConstant
The other ships in the Ford class are the Gerald R. Ford (CVN-78), the John F. Kennedy (-79), and the Enterprise (-80). Two presidents, the mf'in USS ENTERPRISE, and Doris Miller. That's dope as hell.
Arkenov
It makes up some for naming one after the black civil rights opposing John Stennis. (CVN-74) It should've been renamed. Fucker even signed the Southern Manifesto. I've been calling it the traitor ship for years.
CptRobotNinja
That...actually that checks out as fully dope. Damn near broke the dopemeter. Nice.
64645
The USS Enterprise name dates back to 1775. Damn fine ships, all of them. Ford and Kennedy were officers in the Navy.
etherbunny41
This in no way diminishes the badassitude of the given statement.
64645
No, I was merely giving further context to the names.
iLynux
And then there's Doris MF Miller.
Velv3tThunder
Who was a greater credit to the Navy than either of them.
MrPizzaGuy
I'm not sure about Ford but JFK had a pretty storied naval career.
JaceArveduin
I'm still fucking angry that they scrapped The Big E back int he 50's. Out of all of the ships to not end up a museum ship, fuckin hell.