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Oct 26, 2024 7:21 PM
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parabolic000
Thanks, Mr. Snake.
jumpbus360
Most of his Base wouldn't trust him alone with a pet gerbil, let alone time with their daughters. But they'll still vote for him. What's their alternative: Socialists/Communists, illegal immigrants, antifa, a functioning adult, a woman? Half of them would vote for Putin if they could.
NaughtButOne
Man, I'm gonna let it slide because it's a joke but saying "Trump is probably the most horrible human that ever lived in any capacity" is so myopically American that it caused an eye twitch.
Dannyalcatraz
What a Maron!
meatballdreamer
intrepidone66
That is stand up comedy? Bashing someone? I don't care had he done it to Kamala either. Not funny, comedy has died.
qs7rzmffpp5772
You think bashing someone in a comedy performance is something new?
ImBuildingaT800
Nah, he's sitting down isnt he? And he's not joking either.
KingSwing
Sittin down facts.
Subsound
Okay, Karen.
wodensday
Marc Maron is being just a little bit biased towards recency here. Trumo is extremely bad, don’t get me wrong, but I would put several of the high ranking Nazis as worse just off the top of my head. Himmler, Goering, Mengele…
bittenicht39
There are other guys too. Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, …
wodensday
Yeah, exactly. Trump may have inspired awful shit and is an awful shit and does awful shit but to his credit, he has not publicly murdered anyone with his own hands. And plenty of other dudes have done all those things.
BurntRamen
Yeah, cause he's a comedian and needs to make his bit work. Making a joke about people who aren't alive anymore or in the news wouldn't land as well. So the joke has to be about Trump and it has to be punched up for effect.
hyptosis
But were they good at being nazis? Trump wouldn't be good at it, sure he says the shit, but he can't successful do a fucking thing. I guess he can successfully get the most ignorant people in our familes to pop wood though... hmm. *scratches head*
irrational1618
He certainly has the potential to be the most horrible human who ever lived, but I think this is severe historical revisionism to believe he actually is the most horrible human who ever lived.
Gaelwyn
Not even the worst person currently living who's been in control of a country. That's not any praise for him but they are a lot of really horrible people in the world. He is one of them, just probably not the worst one (yet).
SnowpersonHitInTheFaceWithALackOfCreativity
I think that's what really scares people the most. The idea that he is so corrupt that he is going to use the immense power of the US military amd the economic might of the dollar to destroy the world for personal gain. He'll burn it down to be king of the ashes
irrational1618
This is what I fear about Putin. I could see him trying to take out as many as possible if he is going down. Even if going down was just suffering a natural death.
nightripper
Worst ever? No. But definitely inspired by the worst ever.
KaptenN
I dunno what's worse. Being an evil guy, or seeing all that the evil guy caused and still thinking "Oh, I want to be like him". Having all the historical evidence and still seeing something evil as a good thing and want to mimic it...
I think Trump simply hasn't had the opportunity yet. If he did, he would probably do all the same things and even worse, because if you're going to take inspiration from someone, you might as well one-up them...
MasterChristopher
He worded it weird, but I believe in his context, he meant horrible as in "very bad at something you're trying to do" rather than morally.
foampants
I frankly think that Hitler was worse because he had an ethos and a drive to get things done. We should all be thankful that Trump doesn't have a cause beyond his own base desires.
KingAardvark1st
There are so many "worsts ever," and also the metrics by which you rank these things can be pretty squishy. Most harm done? Well, you've got people like Stalin, Hitler, Genghis, Mao, etc. Most repulsive? Kublai, Trump sure fits in that, a *lot* of kings. Most deliberately malicious? Besides a bunch of the above, you've got people like Trevelyan in the Potato famine, Christopher Columbus, a whole bunch of businessmen...
firlefranz
unremarkableasterisk
We may or may not agree that he is the worst president ever (even though he is), but we can all agree that he is the worst person ever elected president.
AHundredBillionBottles
Andrew Jackson was a literal genocidal monster. The White House is a rogue's gallery of horrible
Gonz000
Nixon's a pretty close second. And we're all living the fallout of regan-nomics
4etherling
Reagan. He lacks the toxic personality but what he did was the farthest reaching and most damaging fallout to American people.
BDBottom
Andrew Johnson was no prize either. Why Lincoln chose this turd as vice-President is a mystery for the ages.
whatsisname
It's not a mystery. He was the only senator from a Confederate state that didn't resign his seat. It was a "national unity" thing. Also, he had an outstanding resume at the time, he often comes up in discussions of "which candidate is most qualified" to show the relationship between qualifications and the results, are not strongly linked.
aintnothinbutahounddog28
For the same reason that the non conservatives can't seem to make, and keep, any real progress in this country. He was chosen in an attempt to appease, and meet half way, the most horrible, hate filled, cruel, racist, misogynist, white supremacist loving, people in the country. AKA the conservative party
whyforetho
Only reason there's any debate over him being the worst president is that the other contenders are guilty of things like genocide.
SavageDrums
And Reagan caused basically all of the worst things about life in 2024, including Tr*mp. Still might not be worse, though...
TiredBanana
Who is guilty of genocide?
CatEyebrows
At least 300,000 Iraqi civilians have died in the unjustified war Bush started in Iraq
SmellingMistake
Any who were presidents during the genocide of the natives maybe.
ChiLLeCheeze
A conservative would argue Lincoln for killing Americans during the Civil War.
herzatz
Most US president including the current one.
JPRiddles
Didn't one of them send the military to overthrow a democratically elected leader? I can't remember which one, but I remember it from a Mr Beat video on the worst thing each president had done. (That's Beat, not Beast)
whyforetho
The example with the most direct responsibility off the top of my head would be Andrew Jackson signing the Indian Removal Act and causing the Trail of Tears.
miertam
Jackson was not a nice person.
TiredBanana
Isn't he the same gutless twat who let the south's treason basically go unpunished and left the rotten shitseed of "south will rise" festering?
As in we have him to thank for red state culture and as such also in many ways for the current situation.
Grimm7766
No, that'd be Andrew Johnson.
TheMoonBnuuy
Fun fact: the grifting is just to explain where money comes from when he's laundering it for the Russians.
Grifting has to do with small, petty fraud. He grifts so he can claim that's where the income comes from. In reality it comes from Russian oligarchs who need to launder money.
Jessebob42
Don’t forget the $10 million that Egypt took out of their reserve and suddenly turmp pac received $10 million.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/doj-pressed-to-reopen-alleged-10-million-to-trump-from-egypt-probe-report/ar-AA1rxpKe
BurntRamen
It's all grifting big and small. His charity scams, his failed businesses, vendors he's owed money to, MAGA supporters, crypto scams. Renting his property to the Secret Service when they have to protect him. I'm sure there's favorable government contracts from during his administration. I bet he's borrowed money from the American mob too.
joshuasplinth
I agree. The connotation of grift fits Trump way better than any other word. Ooh, except “griftweaving”!
oznobz
Yeah but then there'd be evidence that Trump had connections with Russian Oligarchs that paid over market value for his properties for the last 4 decades. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_projects_of_Donald_Trump_in_Russia
TheMoonBnuuy
And there is that evidence too
Clayman8
Tbf, im sure a lot of my compatriots wouldve preffered better, safer ways to launder their money but he was the easiest & fastest plus if push came to shove, he'd be easier to bury in the dirt compared to more reliable sources. It worked wonders too considering how desperate his ego was to prove himself & to be noticed.
Id say im sorry, but im not in the financial bracket of people that actually benefited from it so eh... You guys deserve better than this shit stain. You at least have a choice.
BurntRamen
He's convinced lots of people to loan him money the same way he somehow convinced Hollywood to make a reality show about him and fake his genius, or working with Sharper Image. He does pull off some grift. Just to name a few... Deutsche Bank and Signature Bank, predatory lender Axos Financial when other institutions gave up on him. L/P Daewoo, a South Korean conglomerate with ties to North Korea. He's was hiding that he owes millions to people while he was President and presumably still does.
TheMoonBnuuy
The reality show wasn't his idea, it was someone else's, someone who was already in television production
BurntRamen
Ah well the rest tracks. I guess he did convince them too in a way by being himself and being the one they chose.
TheMoonBnuuy
nah the guy who chose him was kind of in on the whole thing from the start, he's part of the same Russia collision grift circle Donald is in
BurntRamen
Well yes, but they needed someone Trump-like. He's got that image and shit ass manipulable personality
wtfylat
His entire life has been a grift, the Russians are just exploiting his fear that it's all going to unravel. That and they know he fucked his daughter.
barrocoyote
I hate Trump but this isn't a fact. It's an opinion that you came up with. You might be right, but you have no evidence. I despise the guy and he's a scumbag but I am so tired of people just confidently spouting shit like this on the Internet and getting upvoted right to the top.
TheMoonBnuuy
You state rather confidently that I have no evidence. Tell me friend, how many logical harddrives show up on my computer, and what third party program do I use to browse my harddrive in place of the one that came with my OS?
*Jeopardy music*
Oh you don't know? Of course not, because you don't know what I have.
barrocoyote
lol this guy really fucking blocked me. I don't know why you guys are downvoting me, people like this guy aren't helping anything with the constant misinformation
GlobalImageServiceCat
LOL, of course not! The Russian oligarchs would use Deutsche Bank and HSBC if they want the money laundering done right. Paper trail must be covered carefully. NY real estate is also another ideal instrument because this asset class is exempted from US money laundering regulation (surprise, surprise). Any smart Russian oligarchs will pick a lower profile real estate agents to close the deals. Only reason the oligarchs give money to Trump is that it provides cover for the real source: Putin!
TheMoonBnuuy
Is that why they repeatedly bought properties from him for well more than the asking price? Hmm?
"any smart Russian oligarch"
Would got the fuck out of Russia the moment the Soviet Union collapsed and they didn't look back.
GlobalImageServiceCat
I don't get your point. When I say 'smart,' I mean it in the context of being a skilled operator in the business. Also I think you don't know the definition of "money laundering". "Buying properties from him for well more than the asking price" is actually more like an act of paying bride.
TheMoonBnuuy
So they're smarter than you. Got it.
The Russian oligarch, let’s call them "O," pays double the asking price for a property. By paying an inflated price, they transfer a large amount of money that may come from illicit activities. The extra money isn't meant to acquire the property’s actual value but to create a legal transaction that justifies the movement of a large sum of cash.
TheMoonBnuuy
By transferring these funds in the form of a purchase, O has converted “dirty” cash into an ostensibly legitimate asset. In money laundering, obscuring the true origin and ownership of funds is essential. Often, shell companies or offshore accounts are used to buy real estate on behalf of the oligarch, making it difficult to trace the source of the funds back to them.
GlobalImageServiceCat
> So they're smarter than you. Got it.
Lol. So cocky. Now applied what you just googled to any one of those reported dodgy Trump real estate transactions and work out the math please. Please list what the buyers get at the end. I will wait. :-)