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source: https://www.tiktok.com/@malwaretech
malwaretech's website: https://www.malwaretech.com/
note: besides serious privacy risks like mentioned above, airbnb and others like it must be banned cuz they destroy affordable housing for locals: https://www.theinvisibletourist.com/why-you-shouldnt-use-airbnb-issues-you-didnt-know/
CheeseborgarSoop
Or, just don't fucking stay at an Air BnB.
HistoricalContext
Thing is, I'm fine with cameras, as long as their locations are disclosed and there are none in bedrooms or bathrooms. This...is wrong.
bks2000
AirBnB doesn't have to follow life safety codes the way hotels do. It's an unfair playing field, like Uber and Lyft competing with taxis.
DrProfessorRocketSurgeon
Also, you phone's camera will show you infrared light sources, which are used by low light/night-vision cameras.
MyName4Wine
The camera lens on your Android phone will pick up infrared light if you hold your device close enough, so not foolproof.
DrProfessorRocketSurgeon
30 feet away appears to be close enough... Maybe you just need a better phone.
Ghlargh
You need a worse phone, the newest best phone cameras have IR filters too good to see most IR sources. Try the cheaper selfie camera.
Bridgiebird
Outside security is fine with me but inside no no
RebelliousMomAt50
I have a smoke detector right above my bed in the apartment that we rent. I have always thought about a hidden camera inside.
un1matr1x
get a disney tattoo & sing their songs, the concern will take the videos offline, if they were put online
peeeopeepeee
Only if they include audio and are in high enough definition to see
Sp1ffy
Big brain
YourMomIsEverything
Wanking to the tune of It's A Small World After All.
Rabidbacon
We dont talk about Bruno no no no
echonite
Only if the upload location gives a shit about that. They are already accepting peeping videos. What makes you think they give a shit?
hollowedskin
Room I rented when I was 19 had pinhole cameras in the ceiling. Still caught my landlord watching me get changed from on top of the coop.
HeySusMonater
Why the fuck is this even a thing! This is an horrendous act... Fuck people who do this shit! Fucking charger cam... WTF!
Tifandi
it's like an even worse version of everything being cake... everything is a hidden camera
FishSausages
I also bring a travel router (set to home network name/pw) & VPN EVERYTHING. If it's not them, it could be the neighbors. PW's never change
zenoshogun
I'm trying to work out what this has anything remotely to do with visual recording devices operating on their own network.
FishSausages
I have trust issues
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FishSausages
I went nerd ham and made my own cloud VPN, plus the tunnel to my PiVPN @ home. Then there's the one included w my ProtonMail...
FishSausages
But I can PM you links & instructions if you want
MyName4Wine
Scanned 50% of the bedroom, try to catch 'em all in the bathroom.
marthafarquar
BBQatCirces
This is excellent. Source?
marthafarquar
The Kentucky Fried Movie - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076257/
Efreeti
*gives you a big hand*
BBQatCirces
ilhares
I absolutely encourage a watch, if for nothing other than Big Jim Slade.
uncas5128
Is it illegal to have hidden cameras in place? Should I call the police if I find one spying on me in an airbnb?
MonoclesAndManacles
For Airbnb they can have hidden cams in common areas, such as living/dining rooms. They're still forbidden within bathroom/bedrooms
fightfightfightlosewinfight
Those have to need disclosed.
WouldThatThisDeskWereATimeDesk
no...
fightfightfightlosewinfight
Yes.
SirBagels
And take the camera too. What are they going to do, sue you for stealing the illegal surveillance equipment?
RobertTheBruise
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2019/03/what-happens-when-you-find-cameras-your-airbnb/585007/
fightfightfightlosewinfight
I like that.
Chocofreak13
Note to self: when staying elsewhere, change clothes and bathe in car. Idk how to bathroom in this situation.
xxoctavianxx
so you find them by looking for them with a flashlight?
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TakeTheStairs
any bright light, and also cameras that can detect IR. i mean, its all in the clips above just watch them again
DaveTBull
I cant remember exactly but there are certain camera modes that will show them very clearly like a highlighted dot if they use IR/night cams
TerraKnight
Generally closing door and curtain and using front phone camera works better. Also look out for wonky looking hangers in the bathroom
Bridgiebird
Clothes hangers?
Rogermooreseyebrow
No just wonky looking people hanging around.
TerraKnight
Sorry, not native English. The Clothes/towel hooks on the walls
Bridgiebird
Ahh I see
Hashbrown123
Chances are if it is not the standard drunken octopus it is probably a hidden camera.
ATerribleArtist
What do you do if you find hidden surveillance cameras? Can you decline to pay/stay because they're spying and not security camera style?
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linecookdaddy
The whole idea of Airbnb is ridiculous to me. I'm old school, get me a room at the motel 6
JosephWer
Yeah until you need an extended stay for 30-90 days, and an actual kitchen to cook at.
Lulabel73
They have hotels for that. They’re called serviced apartments in my country.
JosephWer
Serviced apartments ≠ corporate housing ≠ hotels... in my country. But then again, little makes sense in the United States.
linecookdaddy
Basically it boils down to the fact that I'd be way more comfortable in a hotel than in someone else's house. That shit weird to me
JosephWer
Yeah until you need an extended stay for 30-90 days, and an actual kitchen to cook at.
JosephWer
but hey... get that telly
linecookdaddy
A few years ago I did six weeks at a staybridge extended stay and it was fine
Zaruzen
Is this even legal for them to do?
youreathing
I for one am ecstatic that the AirBnB market crashed and a lot of faux landlords lost their shirts. You want to run a hotel? RUN A HOTEL.
dart223
Exactly .. with insurance and codes
dart223
Hotels, motels, and b&b have to be up to code, fire suppression, insurance, licensed under lodging laws, taxes . Bnb is shit
LoveAndArtAreTheBestThingsPeopleDo
What insurance is necessary? Clearly AirBnb has liability here.
LoveAndArtAreTheBestThingsPeopleDo
Airbnb is out performing hotels https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/24/travel/airbnb-pandemic.html
youreathing
Don't care. That whole model should burn.
LoveAndArtAreTheBestThingsPeopleDo
Why? Isn’t it nice to give hotels some competition? If you don’t like it you don’t have to use it.
youreathing
Hotels don't remove long-term housing supply and cause rents to increase. AirBnB (and the like) does.
LoveAndArtAreTheBestThingsPeopleDo
Free markets are the best way to generate wealth. Taxing people who make more than median is the best way to combat income inequality.
youreathing
You came back a month later to make this comment? lol why?
LoveAndArtAreTheBestThingsPeopleDo
I got a notification of a reply by someone else. ?♂️
youreathing
And adversely affecting housing - https://www.forbes.com/sites/garybarker/2020/02/21/the-airbnb-effect-on-housing-and-rent/?sh=57c76a0b2226
youreathing
But hey, fuck people just looking for a place to live right? So long as other people profit.
LoveAndArtAreTheBestThingsPeopleDo
I love how somebody makes a claim, and I post a source that disproves the claim without expressing an opinion, and somebody down votes me.
MagmaCarta
For once, a useful TikTok
LoveAndArtAreTheBestThingsPeopleDo
Useful? How often does this happen? Is this something we really need to worry about? Or is it more like getting struck by lightning?
RationalJellyFish
Maybe, but it's still fokin imgur here.
kitnnicole9
Another reason to avoid using air bnb. I'm trying to avoid it if possible.
TheMayorOfTittyCity
You guys realize this is not a real airBnB, its a demo. He is just saying its possible. Its a pretty razorblade in the haloween candy vibe.
TheMayorOfTittyCity
Like, could it happen? Sure. Has it ever? Maybe, in a vanishingly small number. But theres prob not a rash of grandmas tapin ya wank.
arandomfish
No shit it's not a real airBnB. He explicitly says he's giving tips for airBnB or hotel.
GuacamoleMoleMolester
It happens much more often. https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2019/03/what-happens-when-you-find-cameras-your-airbnb/585007/
TeflonTrout
TV remotes are usually IR emitters; to get a feel for how this works look at the emitter with your phone cam and press a button
GeForcen
Can confirm, just tried, both the back and front camera can see it flash when pressed.
ElTee86
Typically the main (rear) camera has an IR filter but your front camera should not.
Ghlargh
Yup, selfie cam usually shows IR sources better than main camera on modern phones. What's really cool is a camera with no IR filter.
cheddarhat
Banning ABnB isn't fair either, though. Why shouldn't I be able to rent out a room in my home, or a vacation home? Aren't they mine?
pyr666
if you want to actually use your property as a rental, if you want to be a landlord, you can file the paperwork, pay the taxes, etc.
youreathing
Because that's not how AirBnB is actually used. Nothing's stopping you from doing that outside of AirBnB.
cheddarhat
Then if it doesn't matter, why the fuss?
youreathing
Because AirBnB is a system which has contributed to lower housing supply and increased housing costs. 1/
youreathing
You renting out your home, or part of it, short/long-term, is not (necessarily) contributing to that system. 2/2
cheddarhat
Same effect, though.
HenryLongfellowIII
They want to limit how you can use your own property, yes. A few steps removed from outright stealing it (aka land reform).
lightfantasticem172
Look, a multiple homeowner!
cheddarhat
Not me - not yet, anyway. But I'd like to put a tiny house in my back yard and ABnB that.
HenryLongfellowIII
Would be nice, but one is enough thanks.
lightfantasticem172
Then why the bs about stealing?Surely you know why people want this to happen? And not the "I can't rent something inside my own house" crap
HenryLongfellowIII
Yes, I know why. it's more of a warning that this needs to be dealt with equitably or the stealing could happen. Already causing unrest .
lightfantasticem172
The real reason to stop owning more than one.
lightfantasticem172
It's more for people who are buying multiple cheap homes/flats and then just "renting" them out to Airbnbs, it kills the market and
cheddarhat
The issue stands, though: it's still your property that someone is trying to control.
lightfantasticem172
Well. No. They aren't saying we're gonna control your property. It is saying this kind of buying shouldn't be allowed, that or capped.
lightfantasticem172
For the reason I mentioned on my first comment. it is not fair on the 10000's of others that can't afford a property because of greed.
HoneyBunchesOfStoats
because having no controls is causing serious problems. You don't get to do whatever you want when there are consequences to others
TsNightmare
And here we have someone who doesnt give a fuck about anyone but themselves.
lightfantasticem172
TBF that's just the way all people feel if its about their money.. "why? It's MINE! If they wanted some they should've saved!"
TsNightmare
There is no justification to greed. No one needs more than one house. For any reason.
nero4ty2
if you own a property you should be able to do whatever you want with it
Sp1ffy
Seems like good information. That said, fuck tiktok
cnphilli
cognitive dissonance
Sp1ffy
This I cant deny
braidedeagle
Most online platforms are neither intentionally good or bad. It's what people do with it that makes it bad. Imgur can even be guilty of this
Sp1ffy
Nope, sorry. TikTok is Chinese run, there is spyware, data farming, and stolen intellectual rights all cited in the user agreements. Is bad.
braidedeagle
And the American run social media giants are any better?
LychFinderGeneral
Social media that farms data? Say it ain't so
Sp1ffy
I know, right? Its almost as if we're better off without it. 9.9 6.6 9.9
Sheldonian
Some Airbnb's do this not for fetishized reasons sometimes it's to check you don't invite more people or things like that. Still very awful
SomeOneHasBeenLookingForYou
That can be legit if you use security cams at points of entry vs hidden
zuken
Or just not in the bedroom at least. Living room, front door, garage, that sort of thing
SomeOneHasBeenLookingForYou
Eh; I’d be opposed to anywhere inside the unit. Expectation privacy - POE is security
Chikun31
Yeah, you pull this crap in bedrooms and bathrooms it ain’t for a legit reason.
fightfightfightlosewinfight
According to Airbnb's rules, they have to be disclosed and can't be in bedrooms or bathrooms
LittleRobot71
It's also illegal if not disclosed.
fightfightfightlosewinfight
Good point!
UnkindledOne
I dont even care about them seeing me naked. But I would have to murder anyone who sees my pathetic attempts at pleasuring my woman
LordAuditorVorkosigan
talk about suicide by words jesus chrsit
Mexrose75
Well, think about taking a family and having your child change in the room.
ConfettiPanda
Self burn.
FrankPembleton
confidence and knowledge man. if you already got her, pleasing her should be easy
Gestalt7
Same! Though seeing me in the act should probably count as punishment enough, provided the camera survives the experience
UnkindledOne
This guy gets me
playcomfy
I got hate mail yesterday for saying I unplug surveillance if I find it. If it ain't in the rental agreement, that shit's getting the yank.
neptix
Unplug? I find that shit I'm burning the place down.
UncleMartha
yeah222
So you are the jerk taking my equipment!
zanaria
If its a hidden camera for spying then they have no ground to stand on
enkrypt3d
Huh? They told u to not unplug the cameras? Where was it?
playcomfy
Someone made a post about Amazon data. I commented that I unplug Alexa when entering a rental. Got an angry DM from a miffed AirBnb host.
enkrypt3d
Wow how did they know u did that?
playcomfy
It wasn't a host for anywhere I've stayed, an imgurite was angry at the concept of me unplugging unapproved surveillance. Dm'd me. ANGRILY.
playcomfy
Though I have had a host get pissy about an unplugged, unapproved camera. They knew from lack of recording. That property got blacklisted.
MacklinBurtMacklinFBI
I personally steal it, and wait for them to contact me
TheYoungerChrisEvans
I like your username combined with this comment.
dot5490
Heck yeah, it's illegal to put a camera in a bedroom. You want it back...report them
blankunderscore
CarlottaVonSprockett
whatintarnation9
Apparently the same 4 people downvoted the original comment as well as this one lol
Atomic2
Umm you stole my alarm clock?
arandomfish
I wouldn't steal it, to avoid them rolling the dice on playing dumb about there being a camera. "He stole my charger, whadya mean camera??"
CarlottaVonSprockett
Even if that’s the game they play, one could argue in return “I thought it was my charger!” It’s not like cops would arrest you for this.
arandomfish
Yeah but it still means you have to talk to police, which is riskier than not talking to police.
CarlottaVonSprockett
You’re not wrong about talking to the police being terrifyingly risky, but I don’t see why the police would be involved at all. At most /1
Beezlebubble
Go out, buy an identical block charger, swap it, wait for call. When it gets brought up, explain.
putcleverusernamehere
And the smoke alarm? And alarm clock?
Beezlebubble
"There's the charger right there" "oh you want THIS one, the one with the HIDDEN CAMERA in it? Never mentioned that on the agreement"
rodcon
Pretty sure it’s illegal for anyone to do
HansVerhaegen
In the rental agreement?! Must be a US thing. Because in Europe that shit is all kinds of illegal whether it's in a contract or not.
Ghost0fDawn
A lot of people in the US seem to have this really big hard-on believing that contract is above law (it is not). I hear it constantly.
RobertTheBruise
Law is complicated, but cameras are legal in places other than bath/BR. AirBNB rules require disclosure.
PanNonOpticon
Cameras are illegal in bedroom, at least they are here. AirBNB rules won't change that.
quzar
I believe that "bath/BR" is intended to be 'bathroom or bedroom'.
freckledkink
It's illegal in the US. Cameras can only be in common rooms where privacy is not expected (kitchen, living room, hallway). Bedrooms and
freckledkink
Bathrooms are illegal if you're renting, leasing, etc. If it's your place and you're the one living there, you can put them anywhere. But
freckledkink
You still can't record naked people without their consent (in bedrooms or bathrooms) when they visit.
brumbasse
How privacy not expected in a kitchen or living room inside a home, whether it's rented out or not. That's some whack shit
freckledkink
Those are common rooms. Privacy is expected from the public of course (unless you leave your windows uncovered and they face the street; if
freckledkink
Someone takes pictures from the street into your house, it's unfortunately legal). In a rented home, the landlord can come in at any time
thedelicatesnowflake
mUriCAh
TheYoungerChrisEvans
Well, if you run out of surveillance equipment and still want to yank something, give me a call.
GuacamoleMoleMolester
Love mail, nice!
AnAverageBoxEnthusiast
That's Americas Penis!!!!
coffeeismyfriend
Grab him by the Florida
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AnAverageBoxEnthusiast
Dick pic….
AnAverageBoxEnthusiast
Chris Evens tweeted a sick pic. I’m poking fun at the users name
coffeeismyfriend
MaxximumB
I don't use airBnB, but if I found any cameras, I take them and sell them. How are they going to complain without admitting they're creepers
tschallacka
Burn the the thing with laser. It damages the pixels permanently.
florpglorp
This is how hong kong protesters did it right?
tschallacka
FantasticRazu
does it have to be a green high power one or will any laser pointer do?
tschallacka
Any really. Thats why hong kong protestors had lasers to disable cctv
KidAmnesia
Sure, everybody carries a laser arround when travelling.
noReallyIamPrincessBob
I, too, travel with sharks with friggin laser beams…
TheUnstoppableWampas
I will now.
thegrimtrigger
Choiced
On my key ring in case I ever come across a cat...that's not weird >.>
ajchafe
Every AirBnB experience I have had has been bad. Check out smaller boutique hotels. Usually cheap/clean in my experience.
SpicyRebar
I don't bother with airbnb. I go for vrbo if I need a house or condo to stay at
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ajchafe
I have only had good experiences, comfortable beds, cheaper. Not sure if they were chains. Very small boutique spots (10-12 rooms)
debthepleb
Ummm, but me monies?
NunyaBizness
On the Company dime I'm sure
hashtagnobud
$150 a night per diem. $10 breakfast - $15 lunch - $25 dinner. It’s lonely out on the road though.
HenryLongfellowIII
Probably dude uses company monies. Raid minbar, order food from room service.
hashtagnobud
I eat jimmy johns like 75% of the time when they’re local to where I’m staying. Most hotel food sucks, even hiltons.
cnphilli
try reading reviews? I've only had good experiences.
HardTimeKillinFoulNews
Same. My only bad Airbnb experience so far was in Belgium (bedbug infestation). Only time I booked a place that didn't have any reviews yet.
ajchafe
I have. Always great. Then the place amells or there is a fuck up with the bill, or some other weird shit.
TheEmeraldProphylactic
Likewise, from London, to Edinburgh, throughout Europe, and even Israel and Malaysia,