Hate all you want, no other franchise in history managed to escalate from stealing VCRs to mitigating global nuclear apocalypse. I love how "truck drivers are arming themselves with shotguns!!!" was a substantial plot point in the first one.
Roger Ebert gave the first few 3 stars each and said of 2 Fast 2 Furious : “It doesn't have a brain in its head, but it's made with skill and style and, boy, is it fast and furious.”
I have this weird little feeling of respect towards the Fast franchise. It knows exactly what it is, exactly who its target audience is, and just keeps on rolling.
+Hey it's one answer to "everything's a remake or based on a 50 y/o franchise." They're keeping a successful original franchise rolling — taking chances & writing their own stuff! It's a serial like the Flash Gordon flicks of old. There's nothing particularly stellar, but it's fun, and probably will inspire things in the future, just like ol' flash showed how fun running around on a spaceship & shooting things is.
It is hamburgers, and people make fun of it for not being steak. It is Little Caesars. It is a PB&J. It is a simple thing and it brings joy, and for some people, that is a bad thing.
And that's perfectly fine. It's bombastic action shlock with traces of drama and it doesn't pretend to be anything else. If it's not your thing, I don't think anyone'll get on your case for not watching them. Hell, I haven't watched the series after Hobbs & Shaw.
How did this get made did an episode on the first movie. June was blown away at how ‘simple’ the first movie is compared to the later ones she has seen
"noooo, it's not a cinematic masterpiece like the Lobster or Citizen Kane. They can't just make movies for stupid fun" -person who has a rotten tomatoes account
I don't like them either, but I get annoyed when people who hate Marvel movies say they should quit making those. These big budget movies are keeping the studios and theaters in business. Their profits help fund the smaller, more mature (but less profitable) films that people can enjoy just as much when they go to streaming.
My suspension of disbeleif isn't consistent. I can buy space wizards fighting with laser swords, but not a regular guy who does completely unrealistic stunts in a modified muscle car.
Fast & Furious is the type of movie that you sit down in the cinema with a crate of popcorn and an extra large frozen coke and just shut your brain off and have fun with it. F&F is never going to win an award for cinematography or writing, but it never tries to be that.
Same here, we both had friends into street racing and it’s fun to swap stories and laugh at ourselves, mindless entertainment is a great release sometimes
Why do you give a fuck what other people watch? Over 7,000 movies are scheduled to be released this year. You don't like it? Watch something else and stop bitching.
Some friends and I who all saw Tokyo drift and nothing since we're tossing around the idea of seeing it together without doing any catching up for fun.
I've only seen half of them, but they're not the same old stuff every time. They've gone from low stakes heist movies to now basically being superhero movies, with kind of a spy espionage series in the middle. I don't particularly like the series, but not a lot of franchises repeatedly reinvent themselves like that.
yeah. I mean, the first 3 were essentially cops n robbers (not counting Tokyo Drift since it is apparently between 7 and 8), then it was "hold my beer" to try and top what they did in the movie before. Fight a tank! drive off a mountain! defeat a submarine! go to space! I am fully expecting time travel to come in during this 3 part conclusion.
I'm gonna have to marathon through this shit to see what's up. I saw the first and second one when they came out. Is this modern "B-movies" as per. 80's Sly & Schwarzenegger perhaps...
It's dumb action shlock with a thin veneer of drama. It's more "cleaned up" than the ol' 80s action movies, because movies like F&F lean super hard on aesthetics. At some point they pivoted hard to something akin to Bond movies with how hard the stakes kept going up. Brainless fun nonetheless... if you can stomach people going on about "family" ad infinitum :)
This is just like when the Kardashians get hate from every conceivable direction, but still somehow have a 20-season show that's raked in billion$...because we're all lying liars who lie a lot
That's not a contradiction in the slightest. They get hate from every conceivable direction on the internet; people who spend lots of time on the internet forget that the userbase of these websites make up a tiny fraction of the population-- same with any given show's audience. Kardashians average apparently 1-2 million viewers, many of which aren't flocking to the same social media places where meme goblins are making fun of the Kardashians.
Nobody is conscripting people into the movie industry, all I'm saying is that its great to have an eternal juggernaut of essentially harmless dumb fun films to fall back on when the projects that excite you dry up. I'm an animator, I've worked on one project in 8 years that I've enjoyed *on the whole*, but I still love what I do in the details even when the larger project kinda sucks.
The long ago and the far, far away. 2 long & 2 far. F3: The far, far, far away. Long ago IV: a new hope. Long ago V Far away. L&F6: Return of the far, far away.
I’d come up with my own preferred explanation since it’s a measure of distance not time. He’s a smuggler so he simply went through law enforcement zones instead of around them like other smugglers might. It’s simple and fitting, not the overly complicated stuff they made canon.
Yes because Chinese are really really superficial. People here like dumb movies with expensive luxuries in it, better if there’s models or kissing scenes. Violence is essential, with lots of 💣 as possible. I’m Chinese I know about this. This kind of movie is the best drug for modern slaves to worker even harder for a false dream that we could one day get a fancy vehicle and drive it fast, while being furious.
You just described the entire I̶n̶d̶i̶a̶n̶ ̶ movie industry. (sidenote: some Bollywood action movies are like American 80's classics on drugs and is very entertaining)
He's talking about the chinese investors bilking it to rake in cash hand over fist, not the people of China which I am sure have never even seen a FF movie.
Okay, so looking it up FF does premier in China, but MANY time China has invested heavily in movies that would have zero chance of releasing in China because they make bank over here, their investments don't require the returns to be made in China.
Take a look at Tencent and reddit, it is the same type relationship, Chinese company investing in something that makes them money but would be and is banned in China.
As someone from the US who lived in China in the mid-2010s, I can tell you that Chinese theater goers fucking LOVED movies with dumb plots and lots of ‘splosions. Only 30-40 American movies get a slot to air in China. And it’s stuff like Transformers, Terminator, Rampage, Pacific Rim, Underworld. If it’s the fourth movie in a franchise that’s run dry but full of explosions? Box office gold in China.
Dude... No it isn't. A broken government that purposely underfunds the education system, and religious influence over law making decisions got us here.
It's a way to escape. Stop hating people trying to have a good time. I don't keep up with these movies but I get it. Escape for 2 hours and watch something really silly and just not think about how bad things are.
Escapism didn't get us to this point. Being inundated with bullshit in the real world at all hours by the rich and powerful with no actual escape did. We gotta learn to just let people enjoy things.
Fuck whatever "BETTER" means. I miss when movies were different and meant different things. Nowadays, if it's not Marvel Story #239 using StoryFramework297 we don't get the movie. I miss when they were DIFFERENT.
No one is stopping folks from making better films. The existence of the FATF franchise has not prevented other films from being made. I'll also argue big blockbusters like this will involve hiring a shit load more crew than your typical artsy movie.
There's only so much screen time, marketing budget and attention to go around. It's not a zero sum game but it's more like that than that we can have infinitely many films without affecting each others' success
Remember the movie "The Program"? A couple of halfwits tried to act out a scene where they laid down on the yellow lines on a road to build discipline and show courage. They were promptly killed because real life is not a movie. This is similar.
Yeah and video games cause violence. Just ignore all the dangerous driving pre car movies or the violent crime rate pre video games. Go yell at clouds old man.
I think the movies becoming stupider as they go on made them VASTLY more entertaining to watch. Toretto and his gang are basicalt shounen anime characters now. Its fucking hilarious what kind of shit they survive.
Jw, for all the people downvoting--since you seem to disagree, what new movies do you think are the exception? I can think of a few like Guardians of the Galaxy for example. But I can only think of some limited examples. In general, newer movies feel less developed and lower quality overall (cgi excluded) than movies from the previous few decades.
There are over 7,000 movies being released this year. Are You There God, Huesera, Full Time, Rye Lane, Return to Seoul, A Thousand and One, Joyland, Suzume, The Blue Caftan, RMN, Attachment, John Wick 4, How to Blow Up a Pipelind, Saint Omer, Sisu, M3gan, After Love, Other People's Children, The Starling Girl, Juniper, DnD, Polite Society, Smoking Causes Coughing, Jethica, Leonor Will Never Die, The Artifice Girl, and Godland all have 90% or higher positive critic reviews.
You're just noticing stupid movies. There's a huge variety out there. Of all you think is that there just stupidity, you might want to start looking at independent films and films that aren't in theaters but have an incredible plot or message.
Found the guy who doesn't know about movies unless they are spoonfed to him. Over 7,000 movies are being released this year. Do some fucking research and see the good ones. You're the problem.
We've always had stupid movies, and movies that have a ridiculous number of sequels. The fast and furious have never tried to be anything other than exciting action romps that don't really make much sense if you pay attention to plot. And they deliver. I've never seen one in the cinema but if its on TV I will watch it if there's nothing else on and I will enjoy it, Its entertaining nonsense.
I enjoy them but I also enjoyed that the stunts started out realistic or at least somewhat to a degree of suspension of disbelief. They lost me when a car with hooks in it made 4 cars flip into each other when it went in reverse.
To say they've NEVER tried is just false. The first movie was essentially a remake of Point Break, it took itself relatively seriously and it was good. There's such a disconnect between the earlier movies and the last bunch. The people who complain the most about them are the ones who keep paying to see each new installment
Imgur will trash F&F for being stale then go hype the next John Wick, where John Wick *checks notes* shoots a bunch of people. I fucking love campy ass action movies and F&F goes out of its way to jump the shark even higher every installment.
I watched both recently. John Wick just left me frustrated with the choices characters made. But in F&F I got a ridiculously giant ball bomb rolling around Rome!
However, for John Wick, I appreciate all the stunt work and combat choreography. Can't honestly comment for F&F, but I sure don't appreciate cars and booms and whatnot. Regardless, ill be bore af by John Wick 10 as I was for F&F...2 (ok im biais against car movies i guess lol)
We do not judge other people, we judge the franchise. I watched them all, because I also like watching stupid movies- but at home. I do not pay a cinema.ticket for them. I do not wish for the erasure of those that already exist. Let them be. But I do wish they started making them good ( and this does not mean not ridiculous ) or stop making them at all. At this point, they just enable bad quality stupid movies, imo.
I've a degree in film and worked in film. Bad movies are what actually keeps the industry going. As a lover of film, I love bad movies. Where would we be without 70s B films or the direct to video trend? Bad quality stupid films are actively entertaining and we should keep making them. I'll also say that no one in the F&F cast or directors has been a problematic shithead. I pirate any film with a problematic lead or director but I'll give money to F&F.
Ironically and Unironically, "The Green Mile". Though if you go 100% vegetarian, you limit yourself too. Gotta have a balanced diet. It's all about using stories to explore more emotions than just adrenaline or just morose tragedy or just sincere comedy.
Let's say your greens is "The Green Mile", your potatoes is "Blade Runner", your meat is "The Godfather", "Pulp Fiction" is your seasoning and "Evil Dead 2" for pudding. 😋
Him and Rock didn't get along. Some say it ruined future FF pairings. They play it down, as professionals should, but insiders agree. "Which one's the asshole?" is undetermined.
Really? He's like the opposite of chill. He's extremely weird and often cant stop talking(usually about weird shit). He seems like he'd be completely insufferable to be around for even twenty seconds. The cast that keeps coming back for these movies must have the patience of saints.
Pitch Black is in my top 3 favorite horror movies. I would love to see that type of Riddick movie but I'll be happy with what I can get. I also want my epic Karl Urban vs. Vin fight. Http://i.imgur.com/zqPscXO.gifv
One of my favorite parts of 3 was the fact that after all that, Lord Vaako was loyal to Riddick. I REALLY hope the character returns for 4, and not just a throw away scene.
Vakko was the first to kneel at the end of 2. Also Vaako was telling the truth, there wasn’t supposed to be a betrayal leaving Riddick on the fake furya, that was all Krone
Lonelylunar
That's a staggering amount of money for an opening weekend
treboresque
iDrinkDrano
Who gives a shit?
IhopeyougetstageIIIcoloncancer
Hate all you want, no other franchise in history managed to escalate from stealing VCRs to mitigating global nuclear apocalypse. I love how "truck drivers are arming themselves with shotguns!!!" was a substantial plot point in the first one.
TheManWhoStaresAtTurtles
If we're not talking about only movies, there's also Saint's Row.
candar
Really don't get the hate for the silly action movies. Not my thing but let people have their fuckin joy in this day and age, ffs
GlenL
First movie: they're a street racing gang that robs transports. Tenth movie: They're the Avengers, in cars.
MapleSyrupMafia
At this point, it feels a bit like The Walking Dead. New place, new enemies, but it's new places, new cars, new enemies.
AccountCreatedToUpvoteDogs
Theatergoers: "talent recognizes talent" Critics: "yes and it isn't this"
captiandavie
Roger Ebert gave the first few 3 stars each and said of 2 Fast 2 Furious : “It doesn't have a brain in its head, but it's made with skill and style and, boy, is it fast and furious.”
kingrd
captiandavie
Davidnfilms
Whatever gives Vin more money to make more Riddick movies, thats all I care about.
AmmonyteOnMars
If it builds on the worldbuilding from Chronicles, then yes! But if they're just reskinning the dumpster fire of the 3rd film, then please no
JohnSatclaire
Just ask him to, sweet-like.
ThePakistallion
It’s unapologetically owing it’s place as popcorn fuelled fantasy action. Everything has its place.
delecti
Why should they stop making them? People waste their money on way dumber shit than fun movies with cool cars and explosions.
Zincee
I have this weird little feeling of respect towards the Fast franchise. It knows exactly what it is, exactly who its target audience is, and just keeps on rolling.
atomfixes101
I think vin diesel had paul walker killed. All for the $
astrangehop
+Hey it's one answer to "everything's a remake or based on a 50 y/o franchise." They're keeping a successful original franchise rolling — taking chances & writing their own stuff! It's a serial like the Flash Gordon flicks of old. There's nothing particularly stellar, but it's fun, and probably will inspire things in the future, just like ol' flash showed how fun running around on a spaceship & shooting things is.
GingerIsOurWord
It is hamburgers, and people make fun of it for not being steak. It is Little Caesars. It is a PB&J. It is a simple thing and it brings joy, and for some people, that is a bad thing.
Lurch1911
You know what? That’s fair.
snrsquishy101
As someone who was the target audience for the first few films I hate to admit you are right, they shifted to a more generic target audience long ago
imredheaded
Sort of agree but I tried watching Fast 9 and turned it off. The level of ridiculousness is just a whole other level
Cataleast
And that's perfectly fine. It's bombastic action shlock with traces of drama and it doesn't pretend to be anything else. If it's not your thing, I don't think anyone'll get on your case for not watching them. Hell, I haven't watched the series after Hobbs & Shaw.
imredheaded
I watched them all up to that point but 9 was just too far. If you haven't tried watching it yet, I recommend it just to see what I mean.
Noodlesocks
I do miss when it was just about street racing and low level crime though.
gingen
This 100%. It's fun to dunk on it but at the end of the day it's not lying about what it is. Same with Michael Bay and Transformers.
AbsolutelyDramaticNutjob
Uwe Boll needs to stop, though.
gingen
Let them have their fun.
tarnok
It's for family
TagaryenFangirl
That’s the real thing with these movies, they’re not clever, they’re not art, but they are fun. That’s all they were ever meant to be.
kingrd
Like Little Caesar's pizza it's a good salt lick to lure out the angry snobs in your group of friends
neospor1n
How did this get made did an episode on the first movie. June was blown away at how ‘simple’ the first movie is compared to the later ones she has seen
Iwouldbenick
Yup. Its me. I don't care how dumb it is. I have fun.
LAMovieDesign
Totally and what it really comes down to, if a movie studio knows sequels will keep what is essentially printing money, they’ll keep making them.
tangent
Good. They are fun movies with a bit of heart and have a strong fanbase. And they consistently hit the mark they are going for when making them.
Molvanian
...So what? No, honestly, what's the problem? "People are making movies I don't like!" isn't a problem.
flyinghamstick
"noooo, it's not a cinematic masterpiece like the Lobster or Citizen Kane. They can't just make movies for stupid fun" -person who has a rotten tomatoes account
kingrd
Every critic ever. Lamest and least useful job imho
ropetopus
Fortunately, people making more of something you don't like much has nearly no affect on your life.
USSBigBooty
Come on, you got to take care of your family.
angelblueeyes2000
Didn't some of the family die two movies ago?
Hammertulski
Fast: Ohana
insertwittyjoke
Ohana means diesel, diesel means nobody gets left behind
dennydorko
I don't like them either, but I get annoyed when people who hate Marvel movies say they should quit making those. These big budget movies are keeping the studios and theaters in business. Their profits help fund the smaller, more mature (but less profitable) films that people can enjoy just as much when they go to streaming.
mybrothersmario
Also sometimes it's nice to have a movie you just watch for entertainment, no deeper storylines, no societal commentary, just dumb fun.
dennydorko
My suspension of disbeleif isn't consistent. I can buy space wizards fighting with laser swords, but not a regular guy who does completely unrealistic stunts in a modified muscle car.
aflarge
Why would they stop? It's silly mindless fun that sells really well, and the actors seem to enjoy making it.
OriginalAndWitty
Wait a sec, no one told you? 'Let people enjoy things.' Seriously, who cares.
flyinghamstick
Fast & Furious is the type of movie that you sit down in the cinema with a crate of popcorn and an extra large frozen coke and just shut your brain off and have fun with it. F&F is never going to win an award for cinematography or writing, but it never tries to be that.
Armanace
Right? Who decided that movies need to be deep or realistic? Maximalism is fun too
gnomedeplume
wild that it makes people mad that sometimes you just want to go to the cinema to have a fun time
CP3oh
I enjoy watching these with my wife at home. They're dumb as fucking rocks but it's fun to get drunk and loudly talk shit while we watch.
nero4ty2
Same here, we both had friends into street racing and it’s fun to swap stories and laugh at ourselves, mindless entertainment is a great release sometimes
SomeDetroitGuy
Why do you give a fuck what other people watch? Over 7,000 movies are scheduled to be released this year. You don't like it? Watch something else and stop bitching.
TheHorseShesElbowDeepIn
They didn’t go with Fas-TEN Your Seatbelts?
Spectos
Right. Like I know the series is ridiculous. But it is stupid fun. Let me enjoy it.
Harryteeters
Fast & FEleven
actualseal
Thanks for the snort
gnomedeplume
John Cena said it in his promo for the film
lostharbinger42
I haven't watched since the first movie, but the fact they're still making them AND they're still doing so well is heckin impressive.
kingrd
Wild to have never watched a second one of the FF franchise ever
BlackCatCasper
Five is basically The Italian Job and they keep getting better/stupider.
Callynd
I saw the first one and regret not keeping up with them. This new one looks super fun and I wish I knew what was going on.
mebe21
Some friends and I who all saw Tokyo drift and nothing since we're tossing around the idea of seeing it together without doing any catching up for fun.
ShamaOA
They tapped fully into the "will watch the same old rubbish time after time as long as there's fast cars and guns n stuff" market.
MapleSyrupMafia
They tapped into DLCs, but for movies. Fast & Furious is the Grand Theft Auto of movies.
kingrd
Does GTA 5 have a lot of DLCs? Weird and incorrect analogy but okay. Maybe you're reaching for Train Simulator as a DLC cashbag?
MapleSyrupMafia
GTAO is on its 10th year. They keep releasing DLCs for it and it's mostly the same old stuff reworked.
FlatPlutoSociety
I've only seen half of them, but they're not the same old stuff every time. They've gone from low stakes heist movies to now basically being superhero movies, with kind of a spy espionage series in the middle. I don't particularly like the series, but not a lot of franchises repeatedly reinvent themselves like that.
fantastapotamus
yeah. I mean, the first 3 were essentially cops n robbers (not counting Tokyo Drift since it is apparently between 7 and 8), then it was "hold my beer" to try and top what they did in the movie before. Fight a tank! drive off a mountain! defeat a submarine! go to space! I am fully expecting time travel to come in during this 3 part conclusion.
FlatPlutoSociety
I wish I liked the actual movies more, because I absolutely love the "fuck canon, let's just do cool shit" mentality.
TiffanyKorta
"Where we're going, we don't need roads..."
DTNemes
I'm gonna have to marathon through this shit to see what's up. I saw the first and second one when they came out. Is this modern "B-movies" as per. 80's Sly & Schwarzenegger perhaps...
Cataleast
It's dumb action shlock with a thin veneer of drama. It's more "cleaned up" than the ol' 80s action movies, because movies like F&F lean super hard on aesthetics. At some point they pivoted hard to something akin to Bond movies with how hard the stakes kept going up. Brainless fun nonetheless... if you can stomach people going on about "family" ad infinitum :)
kingrd
Imagine thinking Arnie movies are b-movies
Ih8thisSoMuch
This is just like when the Kardashians get hate from every conceivable direction, but still somehow have a 20-season show that's raked in billion$...because we're all lying liars who lie a lot
TheManWhoStaresAtTurtles
That's not a contradiction in the slightest. They get hate from every conceivable direction on the internet; people who spend lots of time on the internet forget that the userbase of these websites make up a tiny fraction of the population-- same with any given show's audience. Kardashians average apparently 1-2 million viewers, many of which aren't flocking to the same social media places where meme goblins are making fun of the Kardashians.
dethloc
Haven’t seen Fast X yet and not sure how they can possibly tip a car in space, but I plan on finding out how they do it and no one can stop me!!!
Hashbrown123
There was some talk about a Jurassic World crossover. I would watch a "Cadillacs and Dinosaurs" knockoff.
dethloc
*top not tip. Stupid old fingers!!
Bucushin
It's rare for a movie series to jump the shark even higher with every film, and I'm 100% here for it.
kingrd
Pirates of the Caribbean being a good example of the trope
dethloc
Exactly. This series gets more ridiculous every movie and I love every minute of them
coffeegut
they employ a ton of people so I really don't mind
ShamanOfHigh
well as long as people are doing it because they have to instead of because they want to, that's somehow better :P ?
kingrd
This guy is a top poster on /r/antiwork I can tell
coffeegut
Nobody is conscripting people into the movie industry, all I'm saying is that its great to have an eternal juggernaut of essentially harmless dumb fun films to fall back on when the projects that excite you dry up. I'm an animator, I've worked on one project in 8 years that I've enjoyed *on the whole*, but I still love what I do in the details even when the larger project kinda sucks.
ShamanOfHigh
You're pointing to the silver lining and saying "see, it's good!"
duktayp
Looking forward to the F&F / Star Wars crossover
hobojones85
Star wars gonna have to up their quality to be on the same level as fast n furious
TheWombatStrikesAgain
"Our ship is too slow to escape the imperial ship!" *shifts gear* *escapes easily*
lildude52ca
Didn't you hear? they already went to space!
Eldopaquinone
The long ago and the far, far away. 2 long & 2 far. F3: The far, far, far away. Long ago IV: a new hope. Long ago V Far away. L&F6: Return of the far, far away.
memoryshuffle
F&F/Need For Speed/Gone in 60 Seconds
jasonboison
Naw it definitely be guardians of the Galaxy
MosquitoHawker
Is that the one with George Santos as the Rock?
mrthewhitee
They've already gone to space so they're halfway there.
icurays1
lostlittletimeonthis
"this isn't about pod racing it's about family"
jammer909
I'm still waiting for that Fast x Jurassic Park crossover. Vin Diesel ramping his car off a T-Rex. These dinosaurs aren't stronger than family.
Epinephilim
I will definitely fuck with a movie where people do car wizard tricks with hovercars and starfighters.
ThatTransformersDude
Force, Fast, Furious Episode 22: The Kessel Drift
Burke616
"You can't Force family."
Shadowkrieger
Fast as light?
TheEmperorofManlovesTacos
The secret addendum to the Patton Oswald multiverse filibuster
HumtyFuckty
With Multiverse, anything is possible
ThrowingSchadenfreude
The Fast & Forciest
ChickenROAR
Luke, we're family!
EaNasirIsABastard
"Luke,,, I am your family"
vicvalour
That's amazing
SuperIncoherentRantingMan
"Somehow, Brian O'Conner returned"
nickwinters
abrazenfool
Pitch Forward
TheMysteriousTraveller
Now THAT's pod racing!
Lethous
Universal, so transformers would actually be their other franchise, which honestly, would be sick. I'd buy a ticket.
LariCheltsy
gnomedeplume
Somehow, Palpatine is coming to the next family barbecue
astrangehop
Vengeraxe
I was thinking more of a BSG crossover. lets really mess up a timeline.
lostharbinger42
inb4 vin does the kessel run in 11 parsecs
license2kilt
Pffft… you know it will be a god damn pod racing movie.
hyats
"For those 10 parsecs or less... I'm free."
DemSumBigAssRidges
"I live my life a parsec at a time."
HamburgerWelper
Wow spoilers for Fast 11
drunkbs
Vin Solo
ThaWhiteRanger
I love my life a Quarter Parsec at a time.
cardboardwhales
If it was a hemi he’d do it in 10
TheFoodBaby
After having an emotional talk with force ghost Paul Walker
EmissaryofGondor
Can’t be done. 12 is a straight line. Hed have to time travel. That’s not possible in theStar Wars universe.
BlueRonfar
I’d come up with my own preferred explanation since it’s a measure of distance not time. He’s a smuggler so he simply went through law enforcement zones instead of around them like other smugglers might. It’s simple and fitting, not the overly complicated stuff they made canon.
EmissaryofGondor
It’s not just that. The hyperspace lanes he used are very unstable and largely unmapped.
JonWallace1985
Mine is the route goes near a black hole and he got dangerously close to take advantage of Lorenz transformations which shortened the trip.
Idownvotegunnuts
Honestly shocked Michael Bay hasn't made a F&F-Transformers movie.
MithridateEupator
So many boobs and explosions and large shiny machines
TheGreatSynan
I don't follow either franchise, but I would actually watch it just to see the insanity.
TeddyMoment
It might accidentally have a followable plot.
NZSheeps
ATastyCorpsesicle
Emphasis on accidentally
OptimusPom
A F&F and Transformers crossover seems more likely.
ChelVanin
Oh yeah, well you have a bias @OptimusPom
OptimusPom
Only a lotta bit.
ActionJohnnie
Where he reveals that Riddick is on the Star Wars and F&F timeline
duktayp
OMFG I just jizzed in my pants
floatationman
ActionJohnnie
And the origin of the Jedis is Furya
martentos
If its pod racing I'm all for it - especially the video game adaptation!
imnotinthewitnessprotectionprogram
It turns out that the strength of the dark side was really about family, the whole time
MajorasTerribleFate
Explains the Jedi prohibition of attachments.
a2s2020
Except Luke's hand of course
MajorasTerribleFate
He got over that attachment, though.
a2s2020
"I don't think I'll ever get over Macho Grande"
Jt68686
I mean, have you seen the newer ones? Only reason the new characters have any power is because of family
imnotinthewitnessprotectionprogram
Yea, where’s the Topher Grace edit of these films to make them halfway decent?
SCP1504
China LOVES this franchise, they won’t let it die.
FentuckyCriedKhicken
Yes because Chinese are really really superficial. People here like dumb movies with expensive luxuries in it, better if there’s models or kissing scenes. Violence is essential, with lots of 💣 as possible. I’m Chinese I know about this. This kind of movie is the best drug for modern slaves to worker even harder for a false dream that we could one day get a fancy vehicle and drive it fast, while being furious.
AwwYEE
Too fast? While furious?
BlackBeltBoar
It's great escapism to help forget that in 2 hours they have to go back to work in the hunger factories.
BigTex1
Why do all that when you can just be furious for free?
fractal5
You just described the entire Indian movie industry.
zerovanity59
I think the kissing scenes are a little lacking in Indian films.
SCP1504
I see what you did there…
hereforthebewbs
You just described the entire I̶n̶d̶i̶a̶n̶ ̶ movie industry. (sidenote: some Bollywood action movies are like American 80's classics on drugs and is very entertaining)
SherMattLockSmith
He's talking about the chinese investors bilking it to rake in cash hand over fist, not the people of China which I am sure have never even seen a FF movie.
guitarfourtysix
"Furious 7", which ended April 19, with 1.17 billion yuan ($191 million) in China ticket sales. (2015 article) https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/culture/2015-04/23/content_20519544.htm
SomeDetroitGuy
The FF franchise is the highest grossing franchise in Chinese movie history. They fucking LOVE these movies.
Alavar
They've seen the FF movies. Why would studios bend over backwards to appease their government censorship if they don't release in China?
SherMattLockSmith
Okay, so looking it up FF does premier in China, but MANY time China has invested heavily in movies that would have zero chance of releasing in China because they make bank over here, their investments don't require the returns to be made in China.
SherMattLockSmith
Take a look at Tencent and reddit, it is the same type relationship, Chinese company investing in something that makes them money but would be and is banned in China.
jscuster
As someone from the US who lived in China in the mid-2010s, I can tell you that Chinese theater goers fucking LOVED movies with dumb plots and lots of ‘splosions. Only 30-40 American movies get a slot to air in China. And it’s stuff like Transformers, Terminator, Rampage, Pacific Rim, Underworld. If it’s the fourth movie in a franchise that’s run dry but full of explosions? Box office gold in China.
AndThenThereWereSquirrels
Hey, hey, hey. Pacific Rim was awesome. But yeah I get what you're saying.
zerovanity59
Explosions don't need subtitles or dubbing. There are no translation issues with explosions.
gamblingpoet
Man the world is on fire and people are getting shot in the ass for mowing the lawn. Let us have our stupid movies.
MisterLemons
RichieAprilesJacket
God forbid somebody poke fun at a massively successful blockbuster franchise
NibblonianNibbler
Hey now
Heisanevilgenius
There's only one thing stronger than fire or bullets and that's family
AchillesWithHeelGuards
Dude people are getting shot in the ass for eating the last hot pocket!
MadamPuddifoot
I don't mind the movies. I hate the terrible, terrible "ride" at Universal.
B99Reactions
Theres better stupid movies
DVSBSTrD
Shutting off our brains with stupid movies is what got us here in the first place.
Einbrecher
At least F&F movies have a runtime - probably safe to say you've wasted far more time browsing imgur.
Dondarian
Dude... No it isn't. A broken government that purposely underfunds the education system, and religious influence over law making decisions got us here.
sendbobsandvageneiguess
It's a way to escape. Stop hating people trying to have a good time. I don't keep up with these movies but I get it. Escape for 2 hours and watch something really silly and just not think about how bad things are.
Nengex
Escapism didn't get us to this point. Being inundated with bullshit in the real world at all hours by the rich and powerful with no actual escape did. We gotta learn to just let people enjoy things.
urboyevan2
We could just have BETTER movies.
SlightlyAnnoyedDwarf
Fuck whatever "BETTER" means. I miss when movies were different and meant different things. Nowadays, if it's not Marvel Story #239 using StoryFramework297 we don't get the movie. I miss when they were DIFFERENT.
dposton70
We have soooo many good movies. They don't make money like F&F or Marvel Movie #227, but damn there are some good movies hidden among all that.
plainoldfool
No one is stopping folks from making better films. The existence of the FATF franchise has not prevented other films from being made. I'll also argue big blockbusters like this will involve hiring a shit load more crew than your typical artsy movie.
TheFishFace
There's only so much screen time, marketing budget and attention to go around. It's not a zero sum game but it's more like that than that we can have infinitely many films without affecting each others' success
ChallengerDeep
Fast and Furious provokes idiots to drive like, well... idiots. It's like the effect from Jaws or One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest, repeatedly
Kreviathan
I know the jaws one is true because we have data. Do you have any for reckless driving purely because of Fast and Furious?
sendbobsandvageneiguess
How? Lol
ChallengerDeep
Remember the movie "The Program"? A couple of halfwits tried to act out a scene where they laid down on the yellow lines on a road to build discipline and show courage. They were promptly killed because real life is not a movie. This is similar.
NoThymeForPuns
Darwin would be proud
BrdCdn
Yeah and video games cause violence. Just ignore all the dangerous driving pre car movies or the violent crime rate pre video games. Go yell at clouds old man.
DuckPlanetKing
I agree but this movies are beyond stupid after like the 3rd one.
Xenotech5
I think the movies becoming stupider as they go on made them VASTLY more entertaining to watch. Toretto and his gang are basicalt shounen anime characters now. Its fucking hilarious what kind of shit they survive.
NoThymeForPuns
Five was a sick heist movie in my opinion
BlackCatCasper
It only got better Five and later.
Dickbuckles
I think 5 is when they got fun to watch.
MrRandom314159
Was that when they drove around murdering cops with a vault as a battering flail?
GuitarsAndCodeAndRage
Murdering *corrupt* cops with a vault as a battering flail. Perfectly fine.
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JayDeeDubs
There's lots of intellectual and non stupid movies. They just have low budgets because not a lot of people go see them in comparison.
kingrd
The Lighthouse so stupid
Rips4w
Well, now that's just not true at all.
WeeemRCB
mjperk
Jw, for all the people downvoting--since you seem to disagree, what new movies do you think are the exception? I can think of a few like Guardians of the Galaxy for example. But I can only think of some limited examples. In general, newer movies feel less developed and lower quality overall (cgi excluded) than movies from the previous few decades.
SomeDetroitGuy
There are over 7,000 movies being released this year. Are You There God, Huesera, Full Time, Rye Lane, Return to Seoul, A Thousand and One, Joyland, Suzume, The Blue Caftan, RMN, Attachment, John Wick 4, How to Blow Up a Pipelind, Saint Omer, Sisu, M3gan, After Love, Other People's Children, The Starling Girl, Juniper, DnD, Polite Society, Smoking Causes Coughing, Jethica, Leonor Will Never Die, The Artifice Girl, and Godland all have 90% or higher positive critic reviews.
thedudeman519
Green Knight , Oppenheimer , 3900 years of Longing, Interstellar, Crimes of the Future. There are plenty of movies out that will tickle your brain.
SauceCreator
Nah I've seen at least 2 intellectual movies this this year. Banshees and guardian's of the galaxy were on point
thedarkcanuck
Cocaine Bear would like to have a word
Imalwaysready
Yeah, but that was based on a true story. No one in Hollywood was genius enough to come up with a premise like that on their own.
secretdpp
You have to remember to not taunt the short term memory casuals. They'll defend shitty movies like it's their Kings virgin daughter
KingKelloggTheWaffleHaggler
You should try stepping out of the mainstream movies. There are still good ones , they sadly just don't get big budgets
sendbobsandvageneiguess
You're just noticing stupid movies. There's a huge variety out there. Of all you think is that there just stupidity, you might want to start looking at independent films and films that aren't in theaters but have an incredible plot or message.
thedudeman519
Observably false
Footstepsofdawn
https://i.imgur.com/eafnH6q
yaddiex3
No one is forcing you to watch them. Unless someone IS forcing you... Blink twice if you're Not OK! Blink three times if you need a hug.
NSFWfrontpage2
How many times do I have to blink to get someone to go down on me?
jerbern1
LariCheltsy
MrBoopyPutthole
This man was just in a tremendously good movie "unbearable weight" soooo yawrong
thedudeman519
And a few years before that Mandy. Fucking amazing film. But people will see what they want to see
SomeDetroitGuy
Found the guy who doesn't know about movies unless they are spoonfed to him. Over 7,000 movies are being released this year. Do some fucking research and see the good ones. You're the problem.
johnspeck2
Nope
lunicow
We've always had stupid movies, and movies that have a ridiculous number of sequels. The fast and furious have never tried to be anything other than exciting action romps that don't really make much sense if you pay attention to plot. And they deliver. I've never seen one in the cinema but if its on TV I will watch it if there's nothing else on and I will enjoy it, Its entertaining nonsense.
Ryebread91
I enjoy them but I also enjoyed that the stunts started out realistic or at least somewhat to a degree of suspension of disbelief. They lost me when a car with hooks in it made 4 cars flip into each other when it went in reverse.
NikkiHuskyMum87
To say they've NEVER tried is just false. The first movie was essentially a remake of Point Break, it took itself relatively seriously and it was good. There's such a disconnect between the earlier movies and the last bunch. The people who complain the most about them are the ones who keep paying to see each new installment
HamburgerWelper
Imgur will trash F&F for being stale then go hype the next John Wick, where John Wick *checks notes* shoots a bunch of people. I fucking love campy ass action movies and F&F goes out of its way to jump the shark even higher every installment.
SomeDetroitGuy
Imgur isn't one person.
pareidoliaperson
My all time favorite. Fucking hell the chills you get in this movie.
Appollon
I watched both recently. John Wick just left me frustrated with the choices characters made. But in F&F I got a ridiculously giant ball bomb rolling around Rome!
cantthinkofaclevernameatm
However, for John Wick, I appreciate all the stunt work and combat choreography. Can't honestly comment for F&F, but I sure don't appreciate cars and booms and whatnot. Regardless, ill be bore af by John Wick 10 as I was for F&F...2 (ok im biais against car movies i guess lol)
NaughtButOne
F&F has pretty stellar choreography. Or it did before Lin left. Not sure about X, but I can't imagine it'll be terrible.
iamdeadlol
This franchise is like fast food ‐ its not great but you shouldn't judge other people for enjoying it.
Vladraconis
We do not judge other people, we judge the franchise. I watched them all, because I also like watching stupid movies- but at home. I do not pay a cinema.ticket for them. I do not wish for the erasure of those that already exist. Let them be. But I do wish they started making them good ( and this does not mean not ridiculous ) or stop making them at all. At this point, they just enable bad quality stupid movies, imo.
Yogsothott
I've a degree in film and worked in film. Bad movies are what actually keeps the industry going. As a lover of film, I love bad movies. Where would we be without 70s B films or the direct to video trend? Bad quality stupid films are actively entertaining and we should keep making them. I'll also say that no one in the F&F cast or directors has been a problematic shithead. I pirate any film with a problematic lead or director but I'll give money to F&F.
theoracleofdreams
Without B and C movies, we wouldn't have Sam Rami or Wes Craven. I'm also a lover of B movie double features!
Gestalt7
That is a remarkably good way to put it. Thank you!
TacoPoweredHelicopter
Stop judging me for judging.
ProppaGanda
I do.
MrRandom314159
Only if they do it for every meal. Because at that point it's a bit of a health issue. Get some greens in the diet.
majorserenity
What is an example, to you, of a movie that would be 'greens' in this scenario? Just interested 🤷♂️
MrRandom314159
Ironically and Unironically, "The Green Mile". Though if you go 100% vegetarian, you limit yourself too. Gotta have a balanced diet. It's all about using stories to explore more emotions than just adrenaline or just morose tragedy or just sincere comedy.
majorserenity
Let's say your greens is "The Green Mile", your potatoes is "Blade Runner", your meat is "The Godfather", "Pulp Fiction" is your seasoning and "Evil Dead 2" for pudding. 😋
Gayforbae
Shindlers list, probably.
maxthemagician
vin disel seems like chill guy though so im fine with him getting richer.
Catodactyl
Especially since his last couple of big movies involve him saying "I" "am" and "groot", and nothing else.
SharkoutofWata
In that order?
kingrd
Really? Thought he was a jerk and petty wanker in real life
neilwatkinsfromaccounting
Oh yeah. He's a model of self-control.
BisAndThighHighs
From what I've seen he uses the money on nerd shit and Riddick, I'd probably do the same with it tbh.
OnyxTurret
I am Groot.
akodorokku
Vin Diesel is actually an INCREDIBLY weird and kinda creepy guy.
BOSSMOPS
Yeah. I saw a few YouTube videos of him where he got interviewed by women. Him constantly talking about their godly beauty made my skin crawl.
rusrsdude
Maybe he just wants to change his body into theirs, now wouldnt that be a twist
britdick
I was his stand-in on “XXX” for a couple of days. He’s def a good bloke who deserves all that he has achieved.
Olsius
Giod for you for being part of that movie, which I love by the way. And I love Prague.
3wattbulb
What does the sound guy say in Prague? Czech one two
Olsius
WhichIsIt
Did you get to wear the wooly coat?
britdick
I did not. I DID, however, get to sit in the back of a C-130 and drive up and down a big field for the two days. So much fun. And $1k a day to boot.
Coheed62
Definitely eccentric though https://youtu.be/g">qhpl4TVg">https://youtu.be/gJRqhpl4TVg https://youtu.be/7Z_tijgb_E0
guitarfourtysix
Him and Rock didn't get along. Some say it ruined future FF pairings. They play it down, as professionals should, but insiders agree. "Which one's the asshole?" is undetermined.
Imademyselfsquirtle
The Rock. Just by the story how he stopped Shazam vs Black Adam movie, and how he cant "lose" any fight in his movies.
TheS4ndm4n
That's because he doesn't act. He just plays himself. And his image is "strong good guy that wins".
Seanspeed
Really? He's like the opposite of chill. He's extremely weird and often cant stop talking(usually about weird shit). He seems like he'd be completely insufferable to be around for even twenty seconds. The cast that keeps coming back for these movies must have the patience of saints.
maxthemagician
Because of that 1 weird interview where he was on character, to which he apologized? Or is there more? The guy is just a massive nerd
kingrd
Nerds are notoriously chill and not weird, right?
maxthemagician
Do you have stuff showing that he is actually shitty person?
kingrd
The well known "hitting on an interviewer" was pretty damn awkward https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ9QkFxC0sc
kingrd
Otherwise all the news/arguments with The Rock seemed to paint Vin in a pretty bad and immature light
Bluefasa
I just want more Riddick movies. Him + alien planet + weird monsters + bounty hunters with gadgets. Over and over
Praethius
This, absolutely. Why drive cars when you could have tiny goggles, goddamnit
INeverWaitForIt
I once read that he basically does these Fast and Furious movies to bankroll and get studio buy-in to do Riddick movies.
squigster37
It's his based on one of his D&D campaigns!
L3NTON
Relevant video, especially if you're into improv comedy bits. https://youtu.be/hM3jJRxRGP4
Hashbrown123
Let's get a few more games as well.
maxthemagician
there is a planned 4th riddick movie, Riddick 4: Furya and its confirmed.
NZSheeps
Checks out https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5218270/
KingKelloggTheWaffleHaggler
4th,? What was the third
freakdiablo
It was Pitch Black, Chronicles of Riddick, then Riddick.
KingKelloggTheWaffleHaggler
....I missed one of these
AvgWhiteShark
Pitch Black is in my top 3 favorite horror movies. I would love to see that type of Riddick movie but I'll be happy with what I can get. I also want my epic Karl Urban vs. Vin fight. Http://i.imgur.com/zqPscXO.gifv
gummyloaf
One of my favorite parts of 3 was the fact that after all that, Lord Vaako was loyal to Riddick. I REALLY hope the character returns for 4, and not just a throw away scene.
MechKelly
He was? Vaako only had one quick scene and it was kind of ambiguous where his loyalty was.
gummyloaf
Vakko was the first to kneel at the end of 2. Also Vaako was telling the truth, there wasn’t supposed to be a betrayal leaving Riddick on the fake furya, that was all Krone
Bluefasa
They did make another Riddick movie with the Pitch Black formula, just in case you didn't know! And has pretty good tie-in to Pitch Black characters
WasteGameOnPoint
Called *checks notes* "Riddick"
WasteGameOnPoint
It is good and on Netflix rn
mrose50
Then also made Chronicles of Riddick, and an animate movie called Dark Fury which was pretty good though dated now and not voiced by VD I believe.
mrose50
Also Riddick Furya is apparently green lit and in the works for 2024/25 but not certain about that.
CocaineCactus
Maybe there will be a crossover: "Chronicles of the Furious"
DMSledge
not the Fast and the Furya?
LieutenantGordon
That's pretty good