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Everyone knows by now that Iran shot down a US drone. Where the drone was located is disputed, was it in International Waters? Was it in Iran's territory?
Regardless, with Trump's response as well as sending 1,000 troops back to the Middle East, things are starting to look a little more grim. (Source: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/us-sending-1-000-more-troops-to-middle-east)
Combine this with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo's recent interview with Hugh Hewitt, a conservative radio host, and how they closed the interview...
Source: https://www.hughhewitt.com/secretary-of-state-mike-pompeo-on-iran/
As well as what Pompeo reportedly told military leaders in a closed conference where Pompeo is linking Al Qaeda with Iran, thus opening the doors for an Iranian conflict that skirts Congressional approval because of the 9/11 bill authorizing the President to pursue military action against Al Qaeda...
Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/19/us/politics/us-iran.html
Tiny Octopus is an old man and doesn't have to worry about being recalled any more, but a lot of you could find your inactive reserve status activated, could be stop lossed, or even drafted.
Edit: Forgot to cite the draft comment. In 2017, the National Commission on Military, National, and Public Service was created to explore the ramifications of including women in mandatory Selective Service (aka, the draft) registration as a result of the military allowing women in combat roles. The full report is due to be issued March 2020. The interim report is found here: https://inspire2serve.gov/content/reports
I sincerely hope it never comes to that, because a war with Iran will be a much different proposition than the war in Iraq was.
And lest we forget, our President already warned us about starting a war with Iran and wagging the dog to win a Presidential election.
As always, Tiny Octopus refrains from any partisan commentary, and used sources that fall on both sides of the political spectrum.
He does remind you however, to vote in 2020.
JediDavid
Etereo
The drums, can you hear them? The drums of war
stimpsonjcatt
One thing that has def stuck with me from my time in, i have my own political views but seldom debate them with others. That and staying 1/
stimpsonjcatt
current is my responsibility, not others to inform me. Using info from both sides is one of the best ways to attempt to inform others of our
stimpsonjcatt
current state. Always appreciate the maturity of that. These are the political posts I'll actually read.
RoovyRoo
TinFoilKat
I’m sure the billions Obama gave them are not being used to buy weapons from the Russians right now. Hello proxy war.
BURNtheZEPPELIN
funDungeon
Yoink!
fibonaccifreefall
ShadyEsperanto
it's cool, Trump is already saying it was a literal mistake and it's hard to believe they intentionally shot the drone down.
MrSpookywasagoodboy2
Yeah, its Trump, he'll say the opposite tomorrow
MemeOverlord3000
Hopeful, but source?
ShadyEsperanto
https://abcnews.go.com/International/iran-shoots-american-drone-international-airspace-us-official/story?id=63825990
cinderspires
not to mention Bolton is in Israel discussing and taking orders from Israel military about next step to take against Iran. fuck Bolton
QuestionTwice
Who’s Bolton?
AttorneyAtBirdLaw
Fuck Bolton indeed.
allthesameisawitfirst
Bolton is a fucking hyena. He and his ideology are terrifying.
Floorcake
At least as much of a neo-con as Cheney, et al., ever were.
Elcarsh
Definitely, and his cover of "A Love So Beautiful" captures none of the magic of Roy Orbison!
allthesameisawitfirst
Breaking hearts in the West countries
EVILtheKAT
89PercentSureYoureFibbing
Wasn’t 9/11 measures just repealed? So linking Iran with anyone is pointless
TinyOctopus
It passed the House. It hasn't passed the Senate, and with McConnell in charge of scheduling, Tiny Octopus doubts it ever will.
Magjee
The senate has turned into a graveyard for bills
Remmon1
They should pass a law against that kind of behavior.
TSLM
I am sure the senate will get right on that lol
Ididntcomehereforthis
Buy stock in Lockheed Martin and Shell....
ExplainingTheJokeIsFunnierThanThePunchline
And Iran. Iran’s so far away. I just ran. Iran all night and day; I couldn't get away.
Racealistic
I love that song..
DrSanchezChristianAbortionClinic
I loved Vice City
Jenshk
Sandyundertones
This is literally "Iraq 2: this time it spelled with a N". I remember this bullshit before the invasion during Bush
chrishallett83
But we've already had Iraq 2 - this is Iraq 3: this time with an 'N'
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heynongman4pres
Yeah, have them be news anchors for FoxNews and send Hannity et al to the frontlines in Iran
DarkSock
Prunes watching Fox need not worry about being called to serve; of course they cheer. If I believed Fox yellow journalism I’d be pissed too.
Porfirij
fox news is undeniably terrible, but sadly ALL major news channels are at least secretly excited about war, it's ratings gold.
BronzeLeaguePro
Isn't everyone?
cinderspires
already started beating drums of war mongering. what a disgrace
the4getful
I can't believe people still watch FOX
lightcast20009
Yo fuck fox news
lesliebugs
ffs that is a quote directly from Iran's Revolutionary Guard commander in a televised statement after the drone was shot down. Stop this.
chrismofer
Rep. Prez -> Going to war -> War Profits -> Defense contractors -> Lobbyists -> Rep. Law makers -> Campaigning -> Rep. Prez -> Going to war
AngryGraphicDesigner
This is where the hypocrisy comes in...Pro-life for babies, but kill our enemies. Life isn't important to them, their ideology is.
Br0doSwaggins
"Conservatives want live babies so they can grow up to be dead soldiers." - George Carlin
Madethisusernameforonereason
Soooo... who started bombing Syria again? Oooh right, that's about justice!
Madethisusernameforonereason
Tie probably also with Clapper on no civilian casualties because all people killed by drones are enemy combatants
AngryGraphicDesigner
That's totally fair, but there is a clear humanitarian crisis being created by the government in Syria. That's not true in Iran.
QuiteHugeMegaPlusUltra
This is just criminal. There are many countries were this would be considered incitation to violence. Bringing terror to people is liberty?
cvnk
"Are you ready for some footb- I mean war!?!" *ROCKING GUITAR MUSIC*
tReasonoustRump
cyclopentadiene
This is my new favourite gif
tbonepatron3
Substitute Democratic Party and CNN and it’s equally true.
ExaDeuce
No its not.
MemeOverlord3000
Dems are just GOP lite. So, yeah, they are both corrupt, but GOP is obviously worse.
BuickRiviera
“They’re all bad” — Trump allied media
HarryDresdenIsMySpiritAnimal
Not even close. Dems are pretty stupid at times, but nowhere near as corrupt as GOP.
Beartornado
You have to be pretty dense to make the jind of reply a post is making fun of and not realize it.
BHPaperstacks
Maybe in stupidville population your dumb ass.
BuickRiviera
No.
badgerthewitness
The inequality of the end quote grieves me.
GlobularCloyster
What the fuuuuuuuck man
unclemeat70
Ironprophet71
Said our government to the poor
Yourhousesmellslikecatpiss
This is a quote from a revolutionary guard commander in Iran...
RBaltz
taken out of context...
IHateCharlieWork
Didn't he say they were ready to *defend themselves? I doubt he said "war".
Opportunist
“We do not have any intention for war with any country, but we are fully ready for war,”
taciturnpachyderm
I feel like the same could be said of any country with a military lol
subnaut
Having a military doesn’t mean that country is automatically prepared for war.
Yourhousesmellslikecatpiss
https://apnews.com/e4316eb989d5499c9828350de8524963
SpaceTurd69
sunni extremist, shia hating al-qaeda is working shia extremist, al-qaeda hating iran?
TakWriterOfWorlds
It makes perfect sense if you don’t think about it.
bicuriositykilledthiscat
Thanks @OP for giving me one of the few political posts I had to upvote. But the ones who need to see this won’t care/won’t see the issue.
AMitchellW
So spell it out. What’s the issue? Honest question.
AngryGraphicDesigner
This is fact ^ +1
MrJimmyRustles
Yep, Trump definitely doesn't look at imgur. Maybe we should repost this on 9gag...
neoritter
Unfortunately, the op is doing some inference and leaving out relevant statements that don't paint Trump as poorly.
neoritter
One example, Pelosi has already said IC information shows that the drone was in international waters.
BigFckingRocket
Trump is the only one talking about sending our country to war immediately afterwards. That is all on him.
neoritter
Nice job completely ignoring the point I'm making.
BigFckingRocket
No I understand the point you’re making. And I’m saying that even if Iran shot down the drone and took a video of them doing it and
aarono2474
No he isnt. Look up what trump has said on the issue.
claven666
lovin how Iran's "attack" on that Japanese ship somehow isn't news anymore (after the owner of vessel went on record saying it wasn't Iran)
itscayde6
The last thing we need is another war. How about we focus on helping our vets of previous ones first
DetectiveSloth
Military industrial complex rolling around in piles of money would disagree.
Lolobro123
I doubt we will put soldiers down on the dirt. Probably just gonna have fortnite players drone strike their weapons and it be over.
georgejimmydoodle
Trump loves it when they clap for him, but he has no respect for those who serve.
MadMontyMN
If there's anything our current president cares about, it's other people.
MadMontyMN
No, wait. Shoot. That's not right. Damn.
lilfella
Dude, these are Republicans, just saying that you support your veterans is as far as they'll go.
ZombieVarwick
He hasn't started any wars yet. That's more than can be said for the previous 5 administrations.
trialtm
Trump knows we don't need another war. He's a numbers guy. He's just going to thump em on the head with bombs if they pull anything again.
trialtm
He doesn't want to expend troops/time with this country. He's going send them into an ice age via military strikes. Kind of a zero tolerance
trialtm
Attitude towards it.
BigFckingRocket
They have nukes and will literally end our country as well as ours if we bomb them. Attacking Iran literally will be the start of world war
coldwargofast
Iran’s missiles can barely leave the ME with their shots range, in their best scenarios. They can’t touch the US you dolt
Somerichdude
Iran does not have nukes, post some sauce if they do.
Ilovetomakestuffup
That's it everyone, let's collect the bottlecaps...
DeathAnGravity
Anyone else so sick of FO4 that if the real apocalypse were to occur, they would off themselves rather than endure another play through?
offIN30secORless
I played it to the point where I cant pick it up again same with the other FO games but that one I will truly never play again
WeylandYutaniCorp
I've been prepping for this.
glaug
National Bohemian caps have fun puzzles on them
RoovyRoo
Let's agree ahead of time that those are worth ten regular bottle caps
glaug
Okay so we have 1¢ and 10¢ caps, what else we got
Octomorph
Snapple Caps have interesting facts. They could be a nickel.
Elerich
Are beer caps worth anything, or only soda caps?
AlmondWilliams
I agree with that. Any actual sarsaparilla caps should probably be worth more.
IWantToDieKillMePlease
I’m feeling a little a better about being found unfit at my medical board now at least.
FarkasMacTavish
The war would be bad not because of who started it or why, but because it's war. War is bad.
lilfella
Vote Bernie Sanders. No more war.
FarkasMacTavish
lmfao you think one out of touch, communist skeleton can end all war?
lilfella
Not all war, no, but if President he could end the US war machine. And if you think he's a communist you just don't understand politics.
FarkasMacTavish
Dismantling the US military would be retarded.
lilfella
Who said anything about dismantling the US military? You can have a military and not actively fund, support or start wars in other countries
themerman
Iran is a Shia country. Al Qaeda is a Sunni terrorist organization. They hate each other.
prodmerc
They both habbibity babba? Close enough - some moron
BriefausdemGeist
He’s trying to link al Qaeda with Iran? They hate Iran almost as much as they hate us
RPCd
Don't tell him that mbs gang us closer to is and Al qaeda then Iran.
therealpopkiller
They won’t have to seek any Congressional approval if they say al Quaeda is involved, the post-911 authorization is still in affect
therealpopkiller
*effect. Dammit.
georgejimmydoodle
The MAGAts don't know that. To them the "towelheads" are all the same.
WiqidBritt
they're all the same brown people to him and, sadly, his cultists
Xalaqia
The issue is not if he knows the difference. Does his mouth-breathing Fox-brainwashed base know? They don't.
HereDueToYourOnePeskyDownVote
Still looking for WMDs in Iraq.
dbba
More
Broberts15361
Who is us?
cinderspires
fucker doesn't even know that al qaeda is sunni group while Iran is shia group. what a dolt
chuckles11
Hes doing it to set up the legal justification of attacking Iran without needing congress. A law from our 9/11 feargasm. Link in reply:
chuckles11
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/19/us/sept-11-war-law-iran.html
RonnieHubbard
I reckon he does know. He's just banking on the sad probability that the majority of Americans won't or don't care.
TheAussieNerd
He's not an idiot, he just doesn't care about anyone but himself.
DOWNVOTEALLEMOJIS
TheAussieNerd
Malicious incompetence
3blindmicestolemycar
Reporter- "Mr. President why a war with Iran now? What about the lives at stake". Trump -*leans into mic* "They started it".
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drdopehat
No not even close
SquirrelHumps
Thanks Obama
madwriter29
"my numbers are down"
tpgreyknight
But muuuuuuuum
ChurroBear
Fair point lol jk
DillPixels
chuckles11
Yep, there's the guy we entrusted the welfare of our country to. The future for our children. Donald fucking Trump. I'll never understand it
artintel
The Savior of the GOP; pathetic.
FukFoxNews
Fox News convinced rubes that trump was Jesus and trump himself got all the racists to come along.
shittyroomtemperatureblackcoffee
Did he actually say that?
neborno
The real question is, what hasnt he said?
OldTownPhantom
The fact that it sounds like something he would is the sad part.
DasPumpenStrasse
So, hypothetical question, should Iran's, China's, Russian or whichever drone fly few miles from USA coast, should/would we take it down?
denhamb5942
If Iran really didn't attack the oil tankers, wouldn't it be in there best interest to have a surveillance drone watching the straight...
popeyeNL
I doubt it was only watching the strait
Zugzoo
Soviet ships right off our coast was the norm during Cold War. Often “fishing” ships with antennas and no nets. Never shot at them.
Zugzoo
I am by no means trying to justify an attack on Iran.
diphenhydraminehcl50mg
close one. it's all on you, buddy!
tlamstrike
If Russia gave 72 hours notice they legally could fly over the White House https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_on_Open_Skies
CementPump2
US has intercepted Russian bombers fling close to US airspace by Alaska & vice versa Russia has intercepted US planes. No shots fired tho.
3blindmicestolemycar
Not an expert but I'm sure the US navy or air force fly next to them and tell them to turn back before firing?
faptasticvoyage
Usually.
akahata
They talk to a drone? How is that done?
Imunimpressive
Same way you talk to a pilot.
OmegaKamidake
We'll just call the other country and be like "Yo wtf get this shit outta here"
CauthonsGamble
Depends on how far. I can’t remember how many miles offshore is technically still the US.
neil137
ADIZ is pretty deep
LikeTheGuardianButForReal
Was gonna say territorial waters is 12 but air defense is much farther
DavidBrooker
12. The US asks aircraft to identify themselves much further out, and has exclusive economic rights much further out, but 12 miles is 1/2
DavidBrooker
the extent of US sovereign territory. 2/2
DavidBrooker
eg: America can stop an Canadian fishing boat from working 100 miles off shore, but can't stop a Canadian pleasure boat 13 miles offshore.
Euronyme
*cough cough* Cuba missile crisis
Ruscion
Territorial waters are 12 naut. miles out, while the exclusive economic zone is 200
neil137
see ADIZ
LegoGunsandGames
Except Iceland which has 25 miles bc the UK was mean to Iceland and Iceland was upset and UK don’t care but then everyone backed Iceland
likifucrieverytim
Ahh the COD wars.
fergesji
Ástkær fósturjörð....
OnePunMan69
As a Marine vet, the fact that General Mattis resigned should have concerned the nation a lot more than it did.
redbaron707
Yeah I thought he was the one good pick, and then he resigned and I was like:
nopeNOPEnopeNOPEnah
And the REASON he resigned, dude. Big red flag.
aloha611
Al Qaeda is Sunni. Iran hates Sunnis. Saudi Arabia on the other hand is a huge supporter of AQ, but Trump is too busy selling them guns.
cpnbeeb
America has supported Saudi for a lot longer than Trump has been around.
MadMontyMN
Yeah, not sure why. Oh yeah, Oil.
lilfella
Wait a minute, you're saying Trump is lying? This can't be?
Layhult
No draft! Leave me alone. Classic WoW is coming in August and I just preordered Cyberpunk. I've got things to do damn it.
PullShporttel
You think you do, but you really don't.
Andrizzle0159
Woohoo Iran battle royale
georgejimmydoodle
If your daddy owns a building a doc rents space in, he can bribe the doc to fabricate a disability for you.
sauciergymnast
I heard bone spurs can get you out pretty easily
Nixeska
You can draft me, but you'd need cannibals to get any use out of me.
RollforDiplomacy
Guys i just installed Mount And Blades. I just need a little more time. Like dammit. This is a great game
QuestionTwice
I love that game!
stabthecrab
This guy gets it
Cutwail
Shoot yourself in the feet, still better than dying for a stupid proxy war.
Shewy92
I have 6 months to go before my inactive reserve is up so let's hope Trump keeps it in his pants until then
Somerichdude
We wouldn't need to have a draft for Iran.
CaveCanem
If there is anything I can thank Trump for is that he made me ineligible for the draft
QuestionTwice
Just become malnourished. They won’t send you! (I think) ♀️
MyNameIsRichardCS54
Put it to a personally identifiable vote and those who believe in it enough to vote yes go into a draft. This should be done for all wars.
LogicalFallacyBot
Or joining a secondary reserves
PoIluticorn
America has a 100% volunteer force. What makes you think any kind of a draft is necessary?
RevolutionOnHerLips
History? Unrelated fun fact, some states can draft you into their state militia even today.
Dagordae
Because they were already having issues filling the ranks in the previous wars, resorting to reactivating older service members and
Dagordae
Massively increasing the time the already enlisted had to stay enlisted. If we get into a full war with Iran, it will be a far larger
Dagordae
Conflict than when we curb stomped Iraq and Afghanistan. And they had the post9/11 recruitment boost going for them.
LogicalFallacyBot
Thats just called applying for the military and not a draft
MyNameIsRichardCS54
And yep.
MyNameIsRichardCS54
Found the guy who'd vote for a war he wouldn't have to fight!
LogicalFallacyBot
Just not an idiot and actually understand the system
MyNameIsRichardCS54
Fucking hell, I really touched a nerve there!
LogicalFallacyBot
And to also note I’m definitely up to be drafted
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LogicalFallacyBot
No I’m just pointing out the stupidity of the statement. All this is, is a unpaid military reserves so completely pointless.
Chloesaurus
I think what he's saying is make the draft a thing that you opt into instead of something you are mandated to register for.
LogicalFallacyBot
Yea so as I said or a secondary reserves which is just pointless. Like I get it everyone is scared of the draft but it has a purpose
Chloesaurus
A mandatory draft registration should not exist in a free society. It's literally forced conscription.
UglyHorribleGrouchyOldMan
Which would negate the entire reason for the draft.
hairytrigga
It'll be fun to see what happens when Russia steps up for Iran.
coldwargofast
You’re delusional if you think Russia cares enough about Iran. Even IF they had the $ for a war (they don’t), it wouldn’t be for Iran
SukhoiSuperjet
Russia and Iran aren't really allies, only by convenience in Syria. Russia might sell Iran some very overpriced weapons systems.
DarkSock
Well we know what side the MAGAts will be on if it’s USA vs Russia:
prodmerc
Wat
frake
And what American don't realize because they are bad at geography is that Russia is right next door to Iran. Right next door...
TheWombatStrikesAgain
It won't be a direct intervention. They will send military advisors, weapons, etc. And then take notes on how to best fight american troops.
YourLocalSatanist
Sounds like Ukraine. They like to pretend to not be involved in conflicts.
hairytrigga
"advisors"
AnonOmis1000
Question, assuming this isnt another Gulf of Tonkin incident, and assuming it was an unprovoked attack in IN waters, is war justified?
Cutwail
Well, it's never justified how usa do war, they literally send back country in stone age.
bobsters06
Yea, those Germans and Japanese just live in caves now.
Cutwail
"Hey look those two countries are fine now so that means it's totally okay to nuclear bomb civilian"
Cutwail
Btw go away warmonger.
fathersisterberzerker
Nope
AnonOmis1000
May I ask why? I'm very much against war, but I'm ignorant in this situation.
fathersisterberzerker
1)I have minimal knowledge of the situation, but it sounds like the scenario for maximum justification of war is the drone was in fact over
fathersisterberzerker
2) international waters and Iran still shot it down. One robot does not sound to me like justification to wage war and kill people. It
fathersisterberzerker
3) sounds like political bullshit to justify ulterior motives.
HellbirdIV
Israel launched a (possibly intentional, possibly accidental) airstrike on a US ship once. Actual people died, not robots. Still no war.
jursamaj
Does it matter? This absolutely *is* another Gulf of Tonkin incident.
Somerichdude
Evidence? I stopped believing in most conspiracy theories.
jursamaj
The fact that our gov't. has been lying about such provocations for decades, and Trump needs a war to stay in office?
Somerichdude
I think a war will hurt Trump's re-election chances. I think him not going into a new conflict has helped him.
jursamaj
No war President has ever been defeated (plus Wilson & FDR, when war was obviously coming).
Somerichdude
If it continues you could see a price increase on crude oil but of now I don't see a point.
Bonsaipanda
It wouldn't be a war, just an invasion. "just" ...
Chipsized
No. War needs some serious shit to start. Look at Turkey downing a manned Russian jet killing the pilot a few years ago. Russia didn't 1/2
Chipsized
retaliate aggressively. To start a war over an unmanned drone is just insane. If US starts a war it is because they secretly wanted it 2/2
prodmerc
I played EUIV. I didn't give a fuck about the Casus Belli, I just wanted land :D (in this case, I guess it's money)
prodmerc
Could've been that the other king's daughter's squire's dog stepped on my foot, now thousands will die. SAD
TraitorousTrump3
Wag the dog. And trump hates dogs.
cakeisprettygood
Hold on i dont like the guy but didnt he say he doesnt have time for dogs? which is a perfectly reasonable excuse for not having one
heynongman4pres
BS, he watches television for like 6 hours or more a day. He has time.
cakeisprettygood
If that were true which i cant be sure unless you live with the man, why must he give up his relaxing time to be forced to have a dog?
cakeisprettygood
some people like spending time doing nothing, which doesnt mean they're available, they're busy doing nothing
heynongman4pres
Listen, he can just not want a dog, and that's fine. But he says he doesn't have time for it, which is a lie. He lies about everything.
Fahargo
How is it for everything trump does, theres a tweet he did years ago against it.
XedtheRed
Pick any politician....They all do it
IAmCaptainOblivious
No not to this degree they don't. People who defend him like to say this, but it's just not the truth. Not even 10%.
Sprixxen
Trump has so many tweets it's like a weird version of infinite monkeys typing on typewriters producing Shakespeare.
fudomyo
OMFG, spit coke on the screen... beautiful!
loldongs10000
He said it himself, "I don't stand by anything" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs4KTZwEluI
TheJudgeHasItBackwards
Because he is completely bereft of an actual ethos or morality. He believes whatever is most convenient for him personally at any given time
leprekon89
This, and a great big case of lacking self awareness.
QuotesGoHere
r/trumpcriticizestrump for all your double speak needs.
MelcToxic
. For later study
enveechan
.
NiciasGyrfalcon
D O T
BillyBob177
Because he's a flip-flopping Idiot.
DieselSJ
You just described 99% of the people in politics.
Bricklemeyer
It's not just him, Fox news flips the same way (EG criticizing Obama as "inexperienced" for being willing to negotiate with N Korea but -
Bricklemeyer
praising Trump). My family all buy into this shit, they also think it's right if Trump does it but wrong if Obama did it. Usually the -
Bricklemeyer
justification is either that Obama did it wrong or outright denialism that it's the same thing.
photog
Cunt*
TheWombatStrikesAgain
I don't think flip-flopping accurately describes it. It's more like a "what I do is always right, what others do is always wrong" mentality.
Steelfin
I think in the cases above, its that he always assumes people will do the same things he would do in their spot.
Steelfin
In other words, Accuse the other side of doing what you yourself are guilty of - or in this case, what he would do.
Darkspire
That's the entire policy of this administration in a nut shell.
KarlKingOfDucks
In other words, arrogant.
Darkspire
Narcissist is the word you're looking for. Severe personality disorder. Should have been DQed long before becoming a candidate.
PrinnyGod08
I’m a US Sailor active duty about to deploy. I am not happy at what’s going on.
DrSanchezChristianAbortionClinic
Absence Without some Leave is a respected option, ALWAYS. ......
Katamarino
I'm currently working in Basra, on lockdown due to the increasing tension. Come save us!
middaysparrow
Be careful associating your service with your personal political views on social media sites
PrinnyGod08
Also, be careful of posting pictures of you in uniform as well.
middaysparrow
For sure, but posting pictures on this site probably won't get you in trouble with the UCMJ like making comments might my dude
PrinnyGod08
I’m a lady, and I’m not dumb enough or junior enough to make mistakes like that.
middaysparrow
And I am from California, where everyone is a dude. No offense intended! Best of luck on deployment!
PrinnyGod08
Appreciate your concern random stranger, but I’m well aware of the possible issues with doing so. I don’t post anything political so I’m ok!
TheWombatStrikesAgain
Do yourself a favor and do not read about the Millenium Challenge 2002.
yabbadabbaderpityderpdurpderp
So a draft dodging coward wants to go to war, wow
MattDude
Private Bonespurs.
georgejimmydoodle
Cadet. He never earned the rank of private.
TheWombatStrikesAgain
"Some of you may die, but that is a sacrifice I am willing to make." - Lord Farquaard, but also probably Trump
TrueLegateDamar
Worse, a draft dodging coward named Bolton is pushing the other draft dodging coward to go to war.
SecretAgentSuperBooger
SecretAgentSuperBooger
FallingStar7669
The Narcissist-in-Chief wants people to die for him.
TheGhostofElizabethShue
Even if it's true, "you blew up our robot so we're gonna kill your people" is the justification of an absolute bully.
eriksarcasm
The accuracy of this statement physically hurts me.
TakWriterOfWorlds
You blew up you our robot so we’re gonna kill your people and our people*
AngryGraphicDesigner
...and an incredibly good distraction from all Trump's administrations corruption and denial of wrong doing (that few believe)
WeAllLiveInAUserSubmarine
If America allows itself to go to war simply to boost an election campaign, then that is .evil. - or at least the indifference of good men.
AngryGraphicDesigner
I would use much harsher words to describe this action
Cwellan
*robot that was spying on you
TheMetaphoricalTaserFace
2/ a blantant attack on our military interests, unmanned or not.
KarlKingOfDucks
If a Russian drone was shot down in sight of the coast of Maine, would you agree with them using it as a justification for war?
TheGhostofElizabethShue
Oh I'm sure, and ending human lives in response to a loss of material is going to be a very American thing to do.
TheMetaphoricalTaserFace
Eh its still an attack on American property. Dont get me wrong i dont want this war as im not fond of getting shot at, but we cant just take
420xxx69CommunismWillWin69xxx420
The United States still has not made any reparations for the time we shot down an Iranian airliner with 200+ civilians on it.
Porfirij
what do you think america would do if a hostile country operated spy drones right at their border?
ScrewMyVacationPlansIGuess
The same thing we do when Russian bombers fly into our airspace, escort them out
Porfirij
there is a MASSIVE difference between a manned craft and a drone though. also between russia and iran for that matter. so i don't think so.
jursamaj
You do realize, it almost certainly *was* in their airspace, as a deliberate provocation to have a justification for war, right?
lesliebugs
The suspected response at this time is an airstrike on the Goruk facility that launched the missile that took down the drone. Not open war.
WeAllLiveInAUserSubmarine
I'd say "thank god" but this strongly feels like escalation. Cui bono? The unpopular guy heading to an election.
lesliebugs
If Iran actually attacked the tanker and shot the drone over international water, this response would be generous compared to past admins.
WeAllLiveInAUserSubmarine
a) big if. I'd like to see a lot of international site analysis. b) the proportionate response is not hellfire. Be better than your past
TheGhostofElizabethShue
And unless it's manned by Wall-e that's going to mean human life.
lesliebugs
It may or not, but consider that the Trump admin did give a warning before the 2018 Syria strike in an attempt to prevent human casualty.
TheGhostofElizabethShue
Because Russians at the base. No Russians this time.
lesliebugs
Or because he knows any deaths would be taken advantage of immediately. If nothing else, the guy is decidedly not a neocon itching for war.
TheGhostofElizabethShue
Also, I seem to remember a few poor sods evaporating on that one.
CascadianTwilight
It's like 5th century Rome on fast forward
KingAardvark1st
I'd compare it more readily to the fall of the Republic. Trump certainly seems to think of himself as Caesar.
LurkerOfDarkness
Seeing as the US founding fathers modeled the country on ancient Rome, it really shouldn't be surprisising.
heynongman4pres
Yea but we should at least have another two centuries or so before this shit
SukhoiSuperjet
3rd century Rome wasn't much better.
heynongman4pres
How are we marking time here, 3rd century after the fall of the Republic? Or 300-400 AD? I'm a little rusty on my late Roman history TBH.
SukhoiSuperjet
I would say 200-300 AD, or more precise the time between Commodus and Diocletian. (192-284). But yeah, now we're just having history fun.
LurkerOfDarkness
A cautious estimate says the US is moving through at triple speed, I wonder who will play the part of rhe visigoths though...
CoolHandRK
And a president capable of playing a musical instrument while it happens.
CascadianTwilight
We underestimated the barbaric nature of our fellow countrymen and their zealous desire to sack our capital
PanzerIVAsufH
Every 250 years. Republic Rome then Empire Rome each lasted ~250 years.
ArgonneanPioneer
Just to be a pendant, the republic lasted from 509 BCE to 27 BCE, the empire from 27 BCE to either 476 CE (West) or 1453 CE (East). So yeah.
ScrewMyVacationPlansIGuess
Awkwardly, that’s about where we’re at, maybe a little longer
yifin
Yeah, we're fucked.
WellThatsOriginal
Are you in Iran?
glaug
We have the power to stop war. The military depends very heavily on civilian cooperation with logistics and non-interference.
ringwood
It's funny how you think this is our choice
glaug
It is our choice if we have the courage to make it.
ringwood
It's not though, it's up to our elected officials. He is making the choice for us
glaug
Our elected officials aren't the ones driving the trucks, loading the ships, building and maintaining the war materiel
FallingStar7669
... I mean... technically? But also... that didn't work for Vietnam. It took 10 years for Congress to say, "Eh... let's ease up a little."
glaug
The surest way to fail is not to try, and the fastest way to lose a war is to be afraid to fight back.
ZuneIsForever
We're not.... Iran maybe .... But not us.
cinderspires
as someone who served in Iraq and Afghanistan. even lost my friends there. take my sincerest fuck you. you're whats wrong with this country
DaierMune
Just the thousands of American soldiers about to be sent off to a pointless & avoidable meat grinder...
Purplehands1
A time honored tradition in "the land of the free"
ZuneIsForever
I'm sure they will make a point to use drones first....
yifin
Didn't one just get shot down?
ZuneIsForever
One
ThePerks2010
What happened the last time the USA faced human wave attacks? Iran isn't afraid to waste Soviet levels of lives and they'll all be "martyrs"
cakeisprettygood
I doubt it'll turn into that, more likely it'll be like every other conventional us vs me war, they just run away
ThePerks2010
USA Vs middle East? Or are you having some mad internal conflict?
cakeisprettygood
lmao yeah us vs middle east
WookieWookieWookie
They don't have Soviet levels of life.
SonofAngus
Fortunately they dont have the manpower to support such a tactic
ThePerks2010
Iran doesn't have to have the in-country numbers when you have an Ayatollah