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Simulation of war with NK leaked (updated link)
Sep 27, 2017 12:51 PM
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CommunCreator
I doubt that Kim is suicidal. A more likely scenario is that NK sells its nukes on the black market, where any terrorist could get them.
BillHaleyandHisBANNEDComments2
Shall we play a game?
Imalwaysready
The only winning move...is not to play.
johnnylingle5
Have a nice day
Lostinspace56
Lol. War games. Fuck Yeah!!
DesignNerd86
Got any more of them MOABs?
hoom88
I like how in the end it implies the whole world explodes no matter thr winner.
CirclejerqueDuSoleil
Global thermonuclear war. (How about a nice game of chess?)
twinrider1
Loved that in the arcade. Have to have the roller ball, even though it pinched like a mofo sometimes. And watch the series Chuck, it rocks
mcphearless
Okay, but remember the only way to win?
thegoldendude
Rush, the music of the universe! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHST5n068bc
noctynight
The problem isn't that North Korea can destroy the United States. The problem is that we don't want another WW1 domino effect again.
12rt2345g342563
Even if it doesn't escalate. The loss of life and economic disruption will be substantial.
Diddykongkey
it makes very little sense for America to retaliate with nukes even if NK is successful in nuking us. Highly doubt it'll go this way.
CirclejerqueDuSoleil
I sure fucking hope so.
Diddykongkey
I kinda think nukes have lost there strategic value outside of deference. If we blow NK off the map we lose the respect of the UN.
Diddykongkey
It just makes more sense to use strategic drone a missile strikes and destroy their military and government infrastructure.
CirclejerqueDuSoleil
Absolutely. North Korea is, by all means, a hostile and abusive dictatorship, but the people don't deserve to be obliterated because of it.
thisuserdoesnotexisthere
The problem with this is all NK has to do is get a missile above the US or an ally. If it fails at that point it's still a dirty bomb.
Darkspire
an emp in the right place would fuck everything up good in 'murica.
RealFuckinNito
Not really EVERYTHING, since pretty much everything has backups right now so most thing would function all the same, but it sure as fuck
RealFuckinNito
could be worse than 9/11, depending on the type of EMP of course.
Darkspire
http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/electric-grid-vulnerable-to-emp-attack/
RealFuckinNito
They lost me the second they claimed airplanes would fall from the sky: Airplanes, much like cars btw, have shielding from EMPs, because
RealFuckinNito
Yes but it should be noted that as it has been pointed out a billion times already ALL of their ICBMs burn themselves when trying to go
RealFuckinNito
further than japan, so that's mostly unlikely. The real problem however are SK and japan, BECAUSE THOSE THEY CAN HIT, and they're highly
RealFuckinNito
populated areas too. The rest are safe but fuck those two are f*cked as fuck.
JohnnyBgood422
Ho'kay. So Here's the Earth.
KaJuN
AHH MOTHERLAND!!
Thalarctos
But, I am le tired.
Dudeo
Well then take a nap... THEN FIRE ZE MISSILES
seije
man, dat is a sweet earf.. hhhrrrrrouuuunddd...
NotInTheNSA
F'ckin kangaroos
12rt2345g342563
WTF Mate
rocketscientist
ROUND
DesignNerd86
Fire ze missiles!!!
PinstripePotoroo93
But I'm le tired
DesignNerd86
Fine Zen. Take a nap. ZEN FIRE ZE MISSILES!!!
JazzandRain
Chillin.
Thankyouforthis
Thank you for this.
bassclarinetl2
Bout that time eh chaps?
JohnnyBgood422
...Righto
Traja01
Taking me back to 2004 here dude.
ProfessorPritt
Those chinese sons of bitches are goong down
MaahcB
So I wrote a song about it. https://soundcloud.com/marcco68/pplsomexsm8kemistake-1
javer80
.
hippickles
Madethisusernameforonereason
NK are pursuing nukes because the US has not toppled any regime with them, and we have threatened. A lot. Axis of evil ring a bell?
d0o0o0d
Are you old enough to remember a country called the USSR?
Madethisusernameforonereason
Lived through it. Outspending a regime ain't the same as reducing its cities to rubble, which was my intended statement. Damn 140 chars...
d0o0o0d
The USSR was a MAD-capable nuclear power, and it got toppled. Nukes make invasion unlikely, but do not ensure survival of a regime.
12rt2345g342563
That's a gross oversimplification of the fall of the USSR. And the analogy frankly sucks.
d0o0o0d
It's a statement of fact, not an analogy, and I have 140 characters to work with. You want a book, go to the library.
CommunCreator
Gorby was a responsible leader who cared about the well-being of his people. Not so KJU.
Madethisusernameforonereason
But it does ensure, on grounds of historical evidence, that we won't go police action on them and demolish everything "accidentally."
mineovermatter
No war w/NK. The WORLD (not just US) is trying to rejoin N&S w/out bloodshed and minimal disruption. It's tough
CommunCreator
Because China won't consider regime change in the North, and the west won't let the North take over the peninsula.
videopro10
The WORLD isn't gonna do shit.
WhyDoINeedThisStupidAccount777
https://imgur.com/cNNBpMR
GNiko
Now play the one where NKorea nukes Tokio and then bombards Seoul with chemical and biological artillery shells.
asm80dfa8sdfj
NK gets one, no one is going to let them do both.
StMichael7
I know people do but it's so weird to see it spelt that way
darkdragonempress
The reason NK can't attack first is because it's understood China only backs them if they are a defender. If they are the aggressor they 1
ObscureStarWarsReference
The problem is that China backs itself if a certain nation's leadership is dumb & egomaniacal enough to drop nukes right on China's border.
darkdragonempress
Are too much trouble. Without China's protection NK falls very quickly. 2
JudgeJack
I mean, without China they literally have no friends.
goodguyC
Has anyone read A Canticle for Leibowitz? Why do we do this to ourselves?
jakethetao
If a people ever needed to be liberated...
cogs
The only arcade game I ever had high score. Then I learned it had only been installed that morning.
Whenyouhavenocluewhatthefuckyourtalkingabout
Can't we just play pong?
johnlesliecmt
Global thermonuclear war
DonaldJTrump
PleaseNotTheFace
Fine.
TongueTiedLabourerfromtheLandoftheLittlePeople
National thermonuclear war
nivlag
Number of players: zero
blueknot
How about a nice game of chess?
Zer0th
Later, first Global Thermonuclear War.
Teledabby
joshua? is that you?
baysaa
Pennsylvaniastan
Especially since he literally gets a reference to that movie in Winter Soldier
CaptainTiddlemittens
Total Atomic Annihilation
websamura1
What is the difference between thermonuclear - and nuclear war?
12rt2345g342563
Fusion bombs.
Imaybegotthis
Bigger explosions and less radiation for the thermo
lextune
Nuclear weapons split the atom. Thermonuclear weapons split the atom as a power source to fuse isotopes of hydrogen. A much bigger bang.
Traja01
Fusion/Fission reaction. Thermonuclear bombs are also known as Hydrogen bombs. But you're real dead either way
PrincessDonaldTrumpBANNED2
You wear thermals for one
Unspokenconnecction
Dad go home
RedClaws23
Physicist here: if we ever have a nuclear war, it'll be thermonuclear, so there's no difference. Thermonuclear is a type of nuke.
PrincessDonaldTrumpBANNED2
If your so smart, explain why my phone can't auto correct you're to the right your?
RedClaws23
Lololol
TimeRyderAndTheChronoTeens
This sounds about right.
melancholyterminator
I never thought i'd c a Nuke dropped in anger in my lifetime, always seemed like MAD wud keep sense in people, dunno now, idiots everywhere
SGRogers
Are you the same 45 year old mother of four that comments on local news channel's FB posts in the same broken English?
SmellyPotatoMan
man, fuck Imgurs character limit sometimes. makes shit like this less serious and annoying to read.
Ravenuser
MAD is based on all parties having a functioning brain. I’m not so sure, at the moment...
TooManyPixels
Meaning i don't think all leaders were this crazy at once....at least one of the nuclear powers had a level headed person in control.
melancholyterminator
Yeah, but it only takes one fruitloop to ruin it for everyone and we have two idiots armed to the teeth
busted88
The theory of MAD only applies if each side is capable of projecting complete devastation on the other.
SecondSince
Yup. That's what the D stand for. (hehe, the standing D! Giggity!)
Maudible
MAD only applies when both sides can wipe each other out. N.Korea cannot do that to the USA.
butmahitsjustmebooo
I thought that was just between USA and Russia.
Rifneno
It is. The assured destruction in this scenario is only NK's. Nothing mutual about it.
SecondSince
... And South Korea... And possibly Japan...
ImmortalAzrael
MAD only works when sensible people are in control.
AlexHurlbut
That's why we freak out when tin-plated and egostical dictators try to get their grubby hands on some.
DrKriegersClone
I'm not totally sure Trump and Kim didn't arrange through back channels to put on a show of hostilities for domestic consumption.
SecondSince
The only reason i'm skeptical of this is i don't believe Trump is competent enough to pull it off.
TooManyPixels
I'm sure the leaders in charge prior to trump vs Un were as uniquely crash
TooManyPixels
Crazy*
melancholyterminator
and posturing is gonna start a goddam war where a lot of innocent people will die, again, over stupidity arrogance and self importance.
melancholyterminator
gotten away with it because he throws money at shit and surrounds himself with sycophants and liars and greedy people, and hes posturing now
melancholyterminator
- is a manchild who;s never had 2 work at anything in his life, has a god complex and throws adult temper tantrums regularly, and has always
melancholyterminator
Nope, Obama was one of the better ones, and even further back they were good men, made mistakes maybe but knew what they were doing, Trump-
lanceconstablebluejohn
YOU PUT A MORON IN CHARGE OF THE NUCLEAR ARSENAL - why did a critical mass of people not think this was a bad idea?!?!
Cheesecakecrush
A moron? An asshole, sure. But a moron? I doubt that.
lanceconstablebluejohn
because?
Cheesecakecrush
Do you honestly think someone capable of earning 150 million in a single year is an idiot?
lanceconstablebluejohn
What is your rationale here? "having money makes you smart"?
ddkong86
Obama
NinjablazerZero
Because when you call someone a moron instead of giving them a better option, of course they choose the moron. They don't have a choice.
DarkCrawler901
There was a better option, that most Americans managed to grit their teeth and choose, so no excuse. They're fucking morons still.
SorDavos
Actually, most Americans chose the lesser evil. The electoral college decided to go the other way. Their elections are crazy.
DarkCrawler901
That is what my post indicates - Most Americans are not morons, you can take a look at Trump's popularity ratings for a modern update :)
DorkJedi
A man with a boot on his head ran. He was a better fucking option than the one they picked for their party.
NinjablazerZero
Exactly my point. You don't take them seriously and don't give them a serious option, insult them, and then expect them to side with you.
DorkJedi
How is it my fault they chose the worst possible candidate in their lineup?
Amythyst
I dunno, I guess people saw it "working" in NK so they decided to try it in the US.
WillMoss69
Kill'em all let GOD sort'em out! One small missile for man, MANY LARGE MISSILES for mankind!
Rifneno
Nuclear war between NK and US in a nutshell:
AroAce
Only when china would do nothing.
Rifneno
Which is what would happen. You think China is going to jump on the blade over an ally they only tolerate because of geography?
CommunCreator
Things have changed since the 50's. China now owns billions of dollars worth of American financial assets. War with America would cause 1/
CommunCreator
2/ all that to vanish; we wouldn't repay debts to an enemy. Also, American military presence in SK is due to NK.
CommunCreator
3/ If DPRK goes away, so does our main reason for arming RoK.
AroAce
Not really and yes they would. The korean war is an example that china would do that ( +100k casualties from china in that war ).
Rifneno
So which angle are we going at here, you think they'd try a conventional or a nuclear war?
AroAce
Hard to say but I think a nuclear war which could lead to WW3.
CirclejerqueDuSoleil
That, but it also wipes out humans and most other life on Earth
Rifneno
LOL no it doesn't. Nukes are just a form of bomb. NK's are barely any stronger than Hiroshima's. And the most severe realistic result of
WhyDoINeedThisStupidAccount777
Actually, the problem of using nukes, in that it's making precedent. Russia can use it against they neighborhood - like Georgia and Ukraine.
CirclejerqueDuSoleil
"Nukes are just a form of bomb" Yes, and uranium is just a kind of rock, bullets are just tiny balls of metal, and coffee is just bean water
Rifneno
And you're just an impressionable idiot. The 1883 eruption of Krakatoa was 200 megatons, that's 15,000 Hiroshima-tier nukes. We're fine.
CirclejerqueDuSoleil
Krakatoa wasn't radioactive. And it was one blast in one spot.
Nuuuuuwong
Fallout
Rifneno
nuclear war is global societal collapse. Nukes being able to wipe out mankind is an invention of fiction.
CirclejerqueDuSoleil
I'm not talking about NK's nukes. https://www.globalzero.org/blog/how-many-nukes-would-it-take-render-earth-uninhabitable
Rifneno
That's a retarded site and you know nothing about nukes. They don't even mention the fucking yield.
CirclejerqueDuSoleil
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/many-nukes-world-could-destroy/
CirclejerqueDuSoleil
I'm talking about EVERYONE'S. https://gizmodo.com/5899569/how-many-nukes-would-it-take-to-blow-up-the-entire-planet
Nobody7713
I'd like to remind people that North Korea has 25 million people, almost all of whom don't deserve to die for Kim and Trump's insanity
CityYeti
I'm happy I live on the east coast.
d0o0o0d
There are babies born addicted to crack every day, Fidel Castro lived to be 90. What you deserve has very little to do with what you get.
Nuuuuuwong
So dont make an effort? Thats just foolish.
Sonicdahedgie
And they also don't deserve to be stuck under NK's rule either
PCGamingKurshuk
It's like the matrix. Until they aren't, they're still an agent of the state and an enemy combatant.
Z0op
Thats actually a pretty good comparison, dunno why you get downvoted. Your statement doesnt mean we should just nuke em all
PCGamingKurshuk
Yeah, abhor nuclear weapons. I think all that shit should be launched into space pointed away from us. Intergalactic Hegemony baby.
PCGamingKurshuk
Not that we'll get to witness it acting like a bunch of primitive animals on our little bit of solar driftwood.
xantous4201
Not to mention Hawaii and The West Coast who's lives are now in potential danger due to childish behavior.
radioGifDriver
They aren't.
Beelsebooob
Yeh, but it's let them live, or get that fuzzy feeling that you won. I mean, that's more important right?
Bralzor
No one is going to bomb NK unless they bomb someone else first, and at that point its your innocent people dying vs their innocent people
Coolbacca
Relax pal, this happens every few years. Back and forth 'big man' talk that goes nowhere and nothing changes.
spammer206
That's my point with a us north Korean conflict. It's not a military problem, it's a collateral problem
TheRealAethrys
It's more of a Seoul will be reduced to rubble before SE Asia forces can mobilise problem.
TheRealAethrys
Unless that SK assassination unit performs beyond all wildest expectations.
spammer206
I wanted to make that point but couldn't do it in 140 characters. WP my friend. Not helpful it's the most densely populated place on earth
xrufus7x
Also, potential nukes heading for Japan.
sexymeetzey
How is this Trumps insanity? This conflict is the product of 7 or 8 presidents kicking the can and NK being nuts, not Trump.
DarkCrawler901
NK is always nuts. This is the only President that has decided to try and out-nut them in response. Thankfully he is an incompetent shit.
sexymeetzey
Oh, that excuses it then. We should definitely try appeasement and let them develop an ICBM that can reach D.C.
DarkCrawler901
Yelling at them over Twitter does not prevent that. Name one concrete mil/dip thing that Trump has done that isn't an empty threat.
sexymeetzey
It kinda does tho. This is a propaganda war before a shooting one, rhetoric is as important as ships right now.
sexymeetzey
Also upped missile defenses in ROK and Japan, moved pacific BCG closer to DPRK coast, calling for sanctions at UN and getting them
Santooth
No previous president has ever escalated it the way Trump is doing, and they didn't have nukes before.
IAlwaysPost140Characters
While Trump's rhetoric is likely not helpful it's not the root cause here. NK has launched missiles LITERALLY over Japan. That should be war
Nobody7713
It's grounds for war, but if the US declares war, in the first hour, 100k south korean citizens die.
Tamerdinosaur
In other words; Obama let NORTH KOREA obtain nukes and put thier big boy pants on, and Trump is trying to Scared Straight them.
DarkCrawler901
Just in case this isn't a joke post, NK left the NPT in 2003 and did their first test in 2006...
melekoftd
Did you just try ann appeal to logic with a pro-Trump, anti-Obama supporter? How's that working out for ya?
sexymeetzey
Trump is responding, not escalating, and responding with strength is what we want. The nation chucking missiles is escalating.
Nobody7713
Everyone knows that the US has a big stick, repeatedly threatening to use it just makes it more difficult for diplomacy to prevail
Madness116
We've never seen diplomacy succeed without violence with dictators of NK caliber. Hearts and Minds won't work with a country that shut in.
d0o0o0d
Escalated? Trump was basically ignoring Kim until they started launching missiles.
xrufus7x
Probably bercause he keeps treating it like a schoolyard fight and calling the slightly unhinged leader of a nuclear power names on Twitter.
mrmessma
Incompetence /= insanity
xrufus7x
They aren't exactly mutually exclusive either.
PropainAndPropainAccesories
Did you really just say Small Rocket Man is unhinged?
sexymeetzey
Definitely insanity and not classic cold war brinksmanship.
Ratman72
How the hell is trump using classic cold war brinksmanship? Calling kim Jong un, "little rocket man" on twitter?
sexymeetzey
By responding with over the top rhetoric he appears willing to go further than past presidents, we did the same with the USSR at many times
xrufus7x
The cold war brought us within inches of nuclear destruction multiple times. Using it as the basis for your foreign policy is pretty insane.
sexymeetzey
Brinksmanship is what prevented escalation into conflict at multiple turns, you don't know what you're talking about.
5P4C3M4N
All we gotta do is bomb the capitol and all military bases we could make North Korea a smoking crater with no nuclear at all
AroAce
You think China will just watch that and do nothing against it ?
Madness116
Considering China has been getting real sick of NK's shit recently they might not. If NK starts the conflict anyways.
Nuuuuuwong
Nuclear installations are in hardened bunkers in the mountains. They would 100% manage to retaliate.
5P4C3M4N
We have a thing called a THADDS system it shoots misiles down before they get anywhere near us
CrimsonCatalyst
THAAD and Aegis have only been tested for IRBMs. Our GBDS is rated for ICBMs but has only been tested like, 3 times. Nuclear triad.
5P4C3M4N
Well it will definitely be able to shoot down north koreas janky ass misiles if it was successful with our advanced misiles
quickhand
Again, you mean? The U.S. already bombed them into the stone age in the 50's, levelling Pyongyang. Killed around a fifth of NK population.
5P4C3M4N
Really? They just don't learn do tehy
RayZerKai
Remember: We needed TWO nukes to combat the fanaticism of the japanese leaders. Widely regarded as saving more lives than it cost.
5P4C3M4N
If we had bombed all the government buildings and military bases it would have ended quicker
RayZerKai
Wouldve taken much longer and much more resources