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dontgetEpstined
I yelled at protesters as recent as a few months ago but they were outside the local planned parenthood.
HardyandRamanujan
It's telling that 20 yr old me thought it was the bomb at the time. Anything else I thought was the bomb when I was 20 turned out to be shit
Saxytimes
The movie is waaaaaay worse
scienz
DrenLithear
Bioshock is the inevitable outcome of an ayn rand utopia.
Blacktusk
The best part is Libertarians unironically talking about building ocean cities free of government. Like, "Hey guys, I've seen this one."
SoulN8
I read animorphs.
roitan
I didn’t because of the goofy covers and then I went on a fanwiki rabbit hole a few years ago and now I wish I HAD read them.
Ekaris9
Which is objectively better.
OperationM1ndcrime
Same. It's okay, we all learn. Well, not all of us I guess.....
Revyloution
Paul Ryan is the same age as me. We had very similar trajectories. I think about that a lot
Pheehelm
The question I've seen is what is John Galt going do in Galt's Gulch? Sit on the front porch and whittle?
Leonon
https://www.angryflower.com/348.html
thefileclerk
i was about 2 week before i realized, "wait, this is stupid"
afambelafonte
It's so goddamn long and boring. If a book is trying to brainwash you it should at least have the decency to be a good read.
Eridianne
Fucking exactly. I read Anthem in highschool and was like, oh, well that was a nice little story I bet her others are more compl- oh noooooo
StigsMilwaukeeCousin
Fountainhead isn't a bad read, a bit rapey, but at least didn't have 20 page diatribes like Atlas Shrugged.
NOYLL
Anthem was a decent read. Never read any of her other stuff though.
Canofminus
At my gym I over heard some douche go on a/b ‘the war agains xmas’ then say “Have you read ‘Atlas Shrugged’?” That’s American Christianity
FiftyShadesOfMascarpone
More context: https://www.cbr.com/spider-man-apologized-steve-ditko-ayn-rand-past/
Eldibs
Some people are fans of Ayn Rand. The rest of us learned to share in Kindergarten.
whydoineedausernametoday
I'm going to use this quote someday!
BlindGardener
Honestly, I've never read Ann Raynd's books.
xstickman
The worst part about Atlas Shrugged is that "atlas shrugged" is an amazingly evocative phrase that is now permanently ruined by association
SillyZombie
Read Atlas Shrugged in HS, my teacher recomended it becuase there was an essay contest for a scholarship. It was so dumb I refused to write
SillyZombie
I did finish it though
TheEvenPrez
Remember kids, cringing at your past self is good. It means you've grown up and learned
hahadix
Great. so now i hate my old self and I hate my new and improved self.
gonzar09
I'm growing every day. Can't stop ways to hate my past self, even from only a few days ago.
SodaKid7
If I grew more every time I looked back at my jr. high school self and cringed, I would be taller than Mt. Everest by now.
StudioDerpster
Step into the cringe, do some WORK, then let go of the shame and keep the lessons.
JustDontCare
I’m just glad my cringy past rarely interacted with the greater society. My intentions were good but I was blind to some major issues.
technofiend
Hoo boy. Going on and off Prozac will back the self-reflection dump truck right the back up and load you up with cringe. Be warned.
casbott
If I could time travel I would go back and really tell my past self off, and give myself a stern talking to
CAAFlo
And tell me to go to therapy like 3 years sooner while you're at it!
umbrellamaker
And your past self would just roll their eyes at you because they clearly know everything
MikeReese9
Yeah, that is a hard shot at Ditko. Interesting..Lee didn’t go after him like that. Probably didn’t even understand the philosophy
Neonbaron
Everyday I lament the fact that such a mediocre book has such a sweet title
RatsLiveOnNoEvilStar
It really is a great title.
Hasaan
To be fair it's a saying that existed for hundreds of years before she used it.
wadatahmydamie
To be Fffffaaaaaaaiiiiiiuuuuuuuhhhhh
Neonbaron
Yes but now no other book can use that saying which is the reason it irritates me
happywalker
it's ok https://chilkibopublishing.com/can-two-books-have-the-same-title/
wadatahmydamie
Why not? May as well take the name back and dupe some libertarians in the process
thotterpop
I tried listening to the audio book of Atlas shrugged in an attempt to write a report on it for a scholarship. Never finished it.
Efreeti
Dude I was exactly 14 when I read LotR.
SoraHjort
glitchead
Ah, I love spinerette.
hawtfly
OMG the whole time i was reading the comments, I thought it was about Cloud Atlas. I know nothing about Atlas Shrugged or Ayn Rand.
NeverDunNuffin
I am an uneducated dum dum and have never read Atlas Shrugged. I have read Lord of the Rings, though.
icanc4
You chose... wisely
GravyEducation
I'm an educated dum dum and haven't read it either. Doesn't seem worth the time. Read LOTR when I was ten though, humble brag
onlyhalfghost
I tried, I fuckin' gave up, it's not a good read and her philosophy doesn't hold up anyway
HonestCommentFarmer
You should read something more comprehensible instead of Atlas Shrugged. Maybe Finnegan's Wake?
happywalker
SavageDrums
They put a lot of work into that only to accidentally a word.
superfluffysheep
I'm such a weirdo that I used to write bits of Finnegan's Wake on my lunch bag at work.
Ekaris9
" I am rich because i am smarter, prettier, tougher, and just plain BETTER than everyone else! So I deserve to be a king!" There you go.
jherazob
Thanks!
iktome99
TheJuiceLoosener
Also, Rand wrote the WORST sex scenes I have ever read. Just ... ew.
TwiH
But have you read 1q84 by Haruki Murakami?
CaldariBob
What, not into a little red-headed architect rape?
TstgKirby
Example please.
TheJuiceLoosener
I mean, you have to read it yourself. Or not. But in short, the only good sex is btw titans of industry.
TheJuiceLoosener
But apparently, it's cool if one of them is only a titan of industry because her daddy started the company.
TstgKirby
Jez .I'll get the audio book version to listen to during my commute. Apparently the Jordan B Peterson narration is the must goto version.
TheJuiceLoosener
I'm upvoting your comment but I'm going to leave this conversation and try to forget it.
noWhiteHorseHereJustBatturuPrinsu
For those wondering, Atlas Shrugged is a book that tries to convice readers our billionaire overlords bless us with their leadership skills
benderfreak
...make it two, thank you.
znuff
A confused european thanks you
Twrecks123
I had a boss who believe Atlas Shrugged was truth.
CaldariBob
Management is infamously low-IQ.
justthoughtyousholdknow
I had a boss that bought me the book
Recidivous
Glad both of you "had" a boss like that. Goes to show you didn't stay with those morons.
justthoughtyousholdknow
Nope. But still an friend I disagree with
dennydorko
Was this actually in the comics? Because I know Ditko really put a scene where Spidey yelled at protestors in one of his Spider-Man issues.
wadatahmydamie
What’s really weird is that Iron Man is basically the much more popular version of the same basic story
ka1iban
Yes, it was early in Amazing Spider-Man before Romita took over.
LaughingMan2Gig
Ayn Rand didn't turn down her social insurance checks which tells you how much of a hypocrite she was
ImHereToExplainTheJoke
It's not hypocritical at all. Rand's philosophy (re: sociopathy) is that everything I do to benefit myself is cool, but everyone else is bad
PrincessJimmyCarter
Not hypocritical, her philosophy was "everybody should do what's best for themselves" If govt is giving out money, take it. Still repugnant
BillandTedsUnremarkableTripToCostCo
Her characters were prone to theatrical grandstanding on "principle", even when it created problems for themselves. Herself, not so much.
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GlitchWizardYT
Its not that she should or shouldnt, its that shes a hypocrite because of what SHE said people should do.
GlitchWizardYT
Its like a closet gay person condemning gay people, and then its uncovered they are in fact gay. The judgment isnt about them being gay, its
GlitchWizardYT
about them being a hypocrite
hawkesnightmare
r/woosh
vladimirtheliberator
I've never read Ayn Rand. Can someone help a guy out, please?
Zahnradfee
If you want a deep dive, you can see Atlas Shrugged and The Fountainhead here as reviewed by a dog: https://youtu.be/Xa_7XwpH5NA and
Zahnradfee
https://youtu.be/YymZB0uBie4
phoenixaddams
The libertarian Bible
moocowincog
rich guy is persecuted by the horrible, horrible moochers of society. Won't somebody think of the suffering rich people?!
Juanitolon
John Galt was rich in knowledge, not in wealth.
TheMyuChan
Greed is good, selfishness is moral, helping others is evil, pull yourself up by your bootstraps and stop mooching (died on social security)
Crowlands
Many moral philosophies may disagree on Why helping those who are suffering is right. Ayn Rand's is the only one that says it isn't.
Crowlands
And that is kind of the entirety. "I want to be a selfish cunt, give ZERO worth for those who helped me, and pretend I'm moral for that."
SavageDrums
Sounds like you're doing fine on your own.
nememorifacias
Vaguely homoerotic vampire stories, i think.
Zahnradfee
Lol.
ArkoneAxon
She created a philosophy called "Objectivism," where she says, "being a selfish prick is moral, and compassion and charity are evil."
glitchead
Well thats not entirely objectivism, but close enough.
glitchead
Note: I do not believe in objectivism, but ITs like someone saying "collectivism means if you do anything to save yourself, FUCK YOU, SATAN"
glitchead
I believe objectivism is damaging and destructive for any society. But I believe misrepresenting might strengthen their argument.
Meltemi
Ayn Rand is someone who ran away from the USSR in 1926 and never stopped running, no matter how ridiculous her surroundings became.
Legomaniac91
Just play the first Bioshock to see how a society based on her ideals would actually turn out
gtollie
In her own words: “My philosophy, in essence, is the concept of man as a heroic being, with his own happiness as the moral purpose of his
Ekaris9
So... She was solipsistic?
gtollie
.. life, with productive achievement as his noblest activity, and reason as his only absolute.”
MadCat221
WHO IS JOHN GALT: John Galt is the personification of a political, social, and economic philosophy that is dangerously untenable in reality.
Keairan
It says something when communism is a more workable economic philosophy than something.
AllTheGoodOnesWereGone
It's weird how, when you're the writer, everything turns out incredibly well.
ChrisWsrn
In the book John Galt was a engineer who found a source of unlimited energy and turned into a anarchist.
asmallcat
And then libertarians have the fucking gall to tell leftists to “live in the real world” when they want to improve things.
MarriNikari
Capitalism, much like communism, solves all of society's problems only if humanity is made up purely of frictionless humanoid spheres
LordofGoats
Hey, if you drop a baby off in the forest and they can't figure out how to build a factory and amass a fortune, maybe they deserve to die.
Eiladar
He is an objectivist messiah, preaching of man as a heroic being, productive achievement, reason an end to corrupt bureaucracy and a firm,
Eiladar
Unyielding hand to guide humanity to a brighter future. He also was there from the beginning, but only revealed himself when he felt it was
Eiladar
Time to make his move. See: The Emperor of Mankind.
Harsamina
God Emperor of Dune?
Fistouille
And also the guy who voiced Lo Wang in Shadow Warrior
NZSheeps
I thought he was the Hobbit that took the ring to Mordor
leodavinci1
People have gotten mighty upset about fictional characters, so allow me to introduce you to a real person who did the same... Karl Marx.
10001110101periodictablewithasantapieceofmind
"But i really want to do whatever i waaaaaaant"
BloodLoveRhetoric
xizar
I used to love BtAF but now that I'm older I stopped reading it because the lettering is so muddled; 200% zoom and it's still hard to read.
Legomaniac91
The first rumblings of dissent against Andrew Ryan begin forming (1957, colorized).
Wyndynwyre
Not even tenable in her own fantasy. It only exists because she gave them magical tech like super steel and free energy. Very silly.
barnwolf
I think there was also a county sized stealth field, to hide the valley they were building in.
StigsMilwaukeeCousin
Damn if we only had some way to harvest energy from the sun so we could all become energy independent like the rich a-holes in AS.
reineseele
Next you tell me that electricity and food must be affordable for the poor. Bah. Let them starve. (EU perspective on price rises...)
TheFunionKnight
The EU perspective has nothing in the UK perspective we were told to eat turnips by an MP, but Brexit killed the biggest turnip farms
FreshBundleOfStick
If all the rich people left and hid in a secret valley to reinvent society I'm willing to bet that they would die of starvation in a week.
DulothX
Emergency Skin is a good depiction. The rich assholes abandoned a dying earth... only to create a terrible hellscape. As it turns out,(1)
DulothX
once the parasites were gone, the rest of us fixed things, and earth turned out just fine. Their agents had to visit earth to steal(2)
DulothX
in order to keep their society alive.(3/3)
jesuisgur
That's why I laughed so hard at the end of 2012 (the movie). Only survivors are old male billionnaires. I was so hoping for a sequel to ½
jesuisgur
watch them try and rebuild civilization, LOL !
CaldariBob
Takes longer than a week to starve. No, Galt's Gulch would be taken out by dysentery & cholera because no one wanted to be the plumber.
chickenboo
Televise it, imagine the viewing figures.
Myslepra
Don't know where you are from but rich people already live secluded from everyone else? And they import everything becaus they dont produce.
CAAFlo
The idea behind Atlas Shrugged is that the Titans of industry would go to some secret utopia and the rest of the world would collapse.
FreshBundleOfStick
It was a reference to the event of the book where the rich people cut themselves of from the rest of the world and somehow build an "utopia"
StigsMilwaukeeCousin
I think the crucial part of that is that Rands rich people were accomplished engineers, chemists, and knew how to work. That's not our rich.
rshini
even then Ayn Rand had to give them fictional super alloys to make it work, and I doubt most of those fucks knew how to farm or tolerate 1/
ArkoneAxon
I thought he was an evil rich dude who spent twenty pages telling a bunch of poor people why they deserved to die horribly?
BobJohnsonOwait
It wasn’t 20 pages… it was 60 pages.
BiscuitAndBeans
Rand Paul?
TheSecondPiewackit
No, usually his bills are only about a page or two...
DemSumBigAssRidges
I doubt he could write 20 pages of anything.
FractalChainsaw
Ayn Rand Paul Ryan.
BatsArentBugs
But not , NOT Paul Rudd.
C141Clay
ZebadiahCarter
HonestCommentFarmer
For real though, you KNOW that's why Ron named his kid Rand.
C141Clay