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Jason Gilbert is a record producer.
David Plouffe was Obama's 2008 campaign manager and senior WH advisor.
I resent that voting and donating are touted as our only recourse to solve this crisis that is Trump.
Our system of checks and balances seems to have a bug in it.
Also, smash that upvote if you agree someone should do something about this.
AndAtThisPointImTooAfraidToAsk
You need an American Gina Miller! Hated by some of the British people but by God she challenged the government to do stuff legally.
Deliver619
You can not record in the retail area (area with registers) or employee only areas. Please don't do that. Postal employees thank 1/
Deliver619
You for your support, but we don't want anyone getting arrested for something so small. There are better ways to help.
bignikaus
Trump has the senate to back him. There is now nothing he can't do.
The701
And the DOJ.
MethGator
Trump: stop! Oh yes wait a minute Mr Post man.
Ikusame
The GOP has had a strangle hold for four years now, dems have tried, but even when they do stuff idiots go "BOTH SIDES SAME". Fuck you.
rightcalf
Dems can’t be on the floor of congress decrying the corruption rn since Moscow Mitch called for recess until September.
ConformistWithACause
PballQhead
But not *too* angry, lest you make wypipo uncomfortable and get your ass fired. Seriously, fuck Charles Eglee with a wrought iron fencepost.
puffyjacket69
You have to love how this gets turned around on the Democrats like it's their fault. Wtf.
AvielMenter
Stunts don't help; money does. Democrats voted for a bill to fund the post office and Republicans rejected it.
mardukkur
It's absurd to claim the Democrats aren't doing anything while they're in a full court media press with daily attacks on this exact issue.
Seanspeed
Because all these motherfuckers get their 'news' from social media and aren't *actually* paying attention.
mardukkur
But they're doing it on social media too! You'd have to be hiding in a little media bubble to miss it.
omgwtfbbqXD
Yeah OP can fuck off. "Man, the GOP is enabling dictator-lite behavior. The Democrats' are responsible for this somehow! BoTh SiDes!"
MarkMcQ
The same people who thought kneeling was "disruspecfol to muh tr00ps" are very quiet while a right that was fought for is being attacked.
PutinWitPrincess
Why isbhe not in jail? Tyranny should be illegal.. But why do I know
brainkandle1
Questions-1. isn't voter suppression illegal? 2. did they wait until Congress was on recess for a month to do this so nothing would be done?
dennydorko
"bUt wE hAvE tO gO hOmE tO cAmPaIgN" NO YOU DON'T...ain't nobody going to speeches and rallies right now! Campaign on Zoom from your office!
11thstalley
Nice plan, but the Senate just went on recess. This was orchestrated w/ McConnell’s complicity. You’re being played.
11thstalley
The only redress is for the states’ AGs to file restraining orders in the courts and the GOP will be deploying delay tactics.
ferventailurophile
Funny blame Ds but not Rs. Yet Rs only work to hurt the common good. Ds have the right to profit and rest too. Rs will lose!
PicassoCT
Finally we can have democracy, without those pesky voters- and focus on raking in moneys..
Redirttexan
No one is taking a vote away... Do some damn research and quit getting all your info from social media
PicassoCT
“But you could vote, there was a ballot…”
“A ballot? I eventually had to go down to the cellar to find them.”
“That’s the ballot department.
PicassoCT
“With a flashlight.”
“Ah, well, the lights had probably gone.”
“So had the stairs.”
“But look, you found the ballot, didn’t you?”
PicassoCT
“Yes,” said Arthur, “yes I did. It was on the bottom of a locked cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying
PicassoCT
‘Beware of the Leopard.”
DerpSmuggler
I was flipping thru all the major news channels last night. All covered this heavily, one didn’t mention it at all. Can you guess which one?
Zardif
one america news network
haquie
Was it the fair and balanced channel
Gayforbae
They removed thst tagline a while ago
NurgleErik
What does the Fox say?
D1gger
Nothing on this matter
GlenL
Was it the channel that went to court to argue that it's NOT a news channel so they don't need to tell the truth?
GenericNord
Can you sue them for not being funny?
Sesquey
Saying “my dick is huge” doesn’t make it so. They aren’t news.
xj4low
I would have guessed 2. OAN and Fox.
DanFranzen
One of those is not a major news outlet.
jm151
that "bug" is named Mitch, by the way.
Redirttexan
You misspelled Pelosi
jm151
I did not, you Trump-sucking toady.
Redirttexan
Awe... Did I hit a nerve on your delicate snowflake
jm151
not at all. I just called you what you are. your blind worship for that guy is unbelivable.
Redirttexan
Do you know me? Have we met or are you assuming that I blindly support all things Trump like most intolerant assholes
zenoshogun
HerrFraeulein
As a European, I’m actually shocked about this. Republicans are dismantling your democracy and you guys are making memes. Do something!
Aristocrats
Can't. Progressives will never have each other's back. They all want to die for their ideals not kill to defend their country. So they lose.
WhelpThisIsAwkward
Like what? The last few months proved mass demonstrations barely move the people with power.
HerrFraeulein
General strike maybe? But I understand that’s difficult in with weak unions and many people being unemployed right now.
pgdave
There's nothing that can be done, really. Trump isn't part of the legislature, the Senate's controlled by his party.
Draciusen
Perspective as an American: I can't do much about KY and McConnell from NY, and typically my state goes blue, so my vote is more for record.
linearcore
If you're an American citizen, you can donate to McConnell's opponent's campaign if you live outside Kentucky.
Draciusen
I still vote and get counted, but I can't do much about voters hundreds of miles away in different states, and frankly, different cultures.
Draciusen
America's big, and there's pockets of the country that are left to fester in hatred and fear, exacerbated by their politicians and people.
Seanspeed
This community's continual 'both sides' bullshit(and it really is bullshit) is exactly how Republicans keep winning elections. smh
Seanspeed
This is also exactly the exact sort of shit that Russian trolls are pushing. Goal isn't to convince you Trump is great, it's to convince
Seanspeed
you that Democrats are also bad and not worth voting for.
Areliae
"I don't follow congressional proceedings so they must be doing nothing!"
yikesaroni
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/512135-house-democrat-files-criminal-referral-accusing-trump-of-subverting-election
Seanspeed
But other than the many things they actually are doing, they've not done anything! That I've seen at least. Not that I'm paying attention
alaest0r
Reminds me of when CNN ran an article that said "allegedly punched..." and the headlining photo was of a dude punching the other dude
BojackHorsemeat
If they cared they wouldn't have waited until CARES 2.0 to get it. Republicans never come to negotiate after winning at first lol.
BojackHorsemeat
Pure incompetence. I know we all recognize Trump as an idiot but the Dems are equally stupid just in different ways.
BojackHorsemeat
Or, hot take, they're doing exactly what their funders want, and thus are OK with all of this.
mardukkur
How dare they prioritize sending money to desperate unemployed people! The Rs walked away this time rather than help. How was b4 different?
BojackHorsemeat
Everyone knew something had to happen..Rs got all they wanted and Ds were like "we'll get stuff in the next one" lol always like this.
mardukkur
The Rs didn't get what they wanted at all! They got completely rolled!
catsandcoke
I would be happy if the Dems had stayed to do something.
AvielMenter
You mean like the HEROES act, which gives $25 billion to USPS, but which Republicans refused to vote for?
madbydesign
Your democracy is under direct attack and you’re wishing someone else would do something?
mormacil
I'd be happy too if the Dems had stayed however as a foreigner my democracy isn't under attack :P
RandomInternetAsshole
K. Tell us what he/she should do then.
madbydesign
Here are some options: https://twitter.com/celeste_pewter/status/1294467362662412288?s=21
RandomInternetAsshole
Outstanding! THank you!
geoffreyfourmyle
Anything we do as citizens is either easily ignored (peaceful protests, phone, petitions) or illegal (shoot them in the fucking head). /1
madbydesign
Here, try this: https://twitter.com/celeste_pewter/status/1294467362662412288?s=21
geoffreyfourmyle
They only ones with power to do something in between that's also effective (e.g., barter on votes) are the ones in office, not us. /2
geoffreyfourmyle
Anything we do that doesn't result in immediate consequences for the politicians is just ignored, maybe after some lip service. You have /3
geoffreyfourmyle
to do something they can't simply ignore, like cut off their bribes or their fingers. /4
bippityboppityboopity
Serious question: Can someone pls explain how the undermining of USPS hurts the democrats voting more than republicans?
Redirttexan
Thank you!!!
Kazzle
Post offices targetted are mostly Democrat states, and Republicans are more likely to ignore pandemic and vote in person.
linearcore
This is how:
georgejimmydoodle
In ordinary circumstances it would hurt republicans more, since they tend to use mail voting more. With the pandemic, more people, 1/
georgejimmydoodle
Especially in cities where the number of polling places are being reduced, will use mail voting. And cities tend to vote blue.
LoremIpsumBaby
Studies show that the more votes, the more likely it is that Democrats win, due to non voters leaning more democratic than republican
11thstalley
Voting suppression generally hurts the Democrats because poorer precincts were targeted in advance. The only recourse for disenfranchised
11thstalley
voters confronted by long lines on Election Day was mail-in ballots.
spacemagemari
Honest question. How many of you have looked into the situation and are not taking all of your information from social media posts?
codinmymouth
The answer to me looks like none because I don't agree with about most of what this site says anymore. Trump 2020. Look up facts people.
codinmymouth
Most don't realize they are being lied to by most media and are being driven by a false narrative.
linearcore
This statement is so ironic I think I need a tetanus shot, now.
anakhasilver
Okay fascist
codinmymouth
*sighs okay. So instead of looking anything up I get name called I understand.
codinmymouth
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink
Redirttexan
The answer is 30%
Seanspeed
I'd venture more like 90%.
madbydesign
The mail sorting machines that were removed by Trump have been destroyed. Ya’ll gonna do something or just sit on your hands?
Redirttexan
Why blame Trump for everything hold everyone in government accountable.But wait that wouldn't help because then Obama would be incriminated
madbydesign
kittykat
Source?
kittykat25909
Why are democrats taking this shit lying down? I keep seeing posts about how reps would be guns at the ready charging the governors house
GeniusGT
The DNC is everything they can to lose.
cepacolusmaximus
Democrats: fighting Republican extremism with milk-toast since 1975!
Link01
Because they're paid by the same people that pay Republicans, they're just paid to do different things.
IsThisImgurtNameEvenReal
You need the GoP led Senate to do anything about Trump. Oh, hey - they are still busy trying to jail Hillary over her emails? Shocker.
mardukkur
They aren't. These kind of posts arise from a place of deep ignorance about politics and government.
fandsor
Thank you. All the moves Dems can make are quiet and procedural that doesn't garner the headlines. I guarantee they're fighting this.
mardukkur
Right, and unfortunately from the majority of one house of congress what they can actually do as a matter of law is limited. But they can...
mardukkur
...sure as hell destroy Trump & his enablers in the press over the issue and make them fear for their reelections-and they sure as hell are.
TANSTAAFL42
https://imgur.com/6eMoRuL
allysuzumiya
Because if we do anything that can be seen as deemably “radical”, Trump can label us “far left” and we’ve lost the entire fight.
Becker37
Because they're all getting richer. It's an illusion that there's any difference between them
linearcore
MrSebi
Establishment Dems (like Biden) are still fairly racist rich old white guys. They're less overt about it than Repubs, but don't care much.
IAmNotAnAtomicPlayboy
Because they are all bought and paid for.
Kungfuandtitties
I mean BLM movement had a paramilitary police force leveled against them and turns out the heavily armed populace are mostly trumpers soo..
Kingsdotter
Why are Americans taking this lying down?
ilovepegging
Because they arent on your side. The fact that anyone thinks either party has the peoples best interest at heart baffles me.
Ryanator50
That's true, but this is a great opportunity for the Democrats to make it look like they are
ilovepegging
To pretend they are sure. But does that really create progress?
Ryanator50
It would be nice for all these racists to no longer think the president has their back.
ilovepegging
This is a 0 iq argument
Seanspeed
Y'all are the reason why politics sucks. Ignorant bullshit that encourages apathy.
ilovepegging
I'm not encouraging apathy at all. I'm just saying political tribalism is misleading. Elect people with policies you like. Fuck tribalism.
WhelpThisIsAwkward
Honest question, what should we do? March in the street to be ignored & opposed by violent police? Is there another way?
md22mdrx
This was timed by Trump and the republicans to coincide with the recess.
HerrFraeulein
Why are Americans taking this shit? Is a majority of you on with becoming a fascist state? Start protesting.
Megvilla
Start????? We been protesting
TallDude
People have been. But the people in charge do nothing. Yay republicans!
Choiced
Bro the police are beating anyone who gathers or films in the middle of the fucking streets. It's over.
AvielMenter
Democrats voted for a bill to grant $25 billion to USPS. Republicans rejected it. The GOP is the party taking this lying down.
skellington01
Fuck that. There’s no law for republicans or Trump. This is war. Wake the fuck up America.
xj4low
And senate is taking off for almost a month saying the dems are holding up negotiations. The deal maker himself is blaming dems when asked.
KingMagenta
Get on camera and tell the American people this. By allowing them to reject it without a fight is ridiculous
anakhasilver
The Trump-lovers won't care and a lot of Dems actually know this.
KingMagenta
At least history can say they tried.
Zipbang
Dem's are perpetually scared to act because their voter read the news and hold them accountable.
ilovepegging
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. No they dont. If they did no democrat would be in office. Same for republicans.
FantabulousMan
Al Franken would probably be the presidential nominee if not for that dumb pic. But yeah sure both sides.
ilovepegging
You realize the dnc has been rigging the candiate right? They literallg stole it from bernie in 2016. Its known.
mardukkur
Fuck off Ivan.
ilovepegging
So joe biden who has plenty of allegations and clearly has bizzare behaviors made it. But that single pic held back franken. Lol sure.
Zipbang
Got any examples? The republicans are running an impeached president for a second term.
ilovepegging
Do you have any examples of any politician who isnt corrupt? Wtf.
ilovepegging
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ocasio-cortezs-millionaire-chief-of-staff-violated-fec-rules-to-hide-885g-fec-complaint-alleges
Zipbang
You want me to prove a negative? Ok. How are Bernie and AOC corrupt?
kittykat25909
but like..where's antifa? where are they now that we need them? the media hyped them up so much before hand but now what?
AnyOldGame
Yes because what we need right now are more violent protests....
AnyOldGame
Need i remind you of this: https://youtu.be/tjNSvexSLoQ
AnyOldGame
Blue man pulled an antifa member off a statue they were trying to pull down and pushed one of them over, antifa went after this guy shouting
AnyOldGame
""Im gonna fucking kill you" leading to someone being shot, antifa or patriot the last thing we need atm is more senseless violence!
BaklavaMatatas
As a European, seeing Americans talking about Antifa as if it were some kind of club is so effin cringeworthy.
NotTheDevilYouKnow
We think so too. Republicans make it out to be some awful anti-trump organization and all it is is people who don’t want Nazi’s in America
nxrble
sad reality here but all the manufactured consent is running overtime
Jagerbeast
Antifa isnt a thing.....
OhSheeeeeet
[ ] you got the joke
jbsquare
Why just the Democrats? Shouldn't the Republicans be on the floor of Congress yelling too?
beegbairbeister
The point is if youre a lefty and you complain about the issues, but then do nothing about it, youre just as bad
aspiringgamedev
sorry but the republicans have been brainwashed and now support fascism
amoeba15
They should but they won't. They're not even in session again until September.
MathiasTolerain
Should be. But wont. The GOP and anyone who votes for them are degenerate criminals.
jaijaikali
They're pussies, but yes
theomni
Why? They support this.
Kigliwoth
They're the ones orchestrating this. Why on earth would they be against it?
jbsquare
I'm talking about the people. Tactics like this could be used against them in the near future.
crazyspelling
HHAHAHAHAHA the Republicans don't think like that. But that THOUGHT is why the Dems don't do more crazy shit to stop them.
georgejimmydoodle
Republicans can only win if they suppress the vote. They want yo destroy the USPS.
DeitiesFeces
republicans have been repressing voters for years. it's kind of their thing.
LittleKnownOne
No no, gotta keep it as an us vs them thing. /s
tekcor
Republicans are fascists.
aninvisiblemaniac
I feel this is missing the point entirely stop pointing fingers and go protest your shitty government
thefatlonelyjew
Nobody tell him
TheJudgeHasItBackwards
Yes. But they've capitulated and drunk the Kool-Aid. Even Mitt Romney is nowhere to be seen on this.
dennydorko
icommentwithsteveharvey
We cant trust GOP, GOP is asshoe
LeroyShabazAli
The republicans have been trying to get rid of the post office for years. They also like voter suppression. Why would they fight this?
allegate
Niddhogg
Since I didn't see anyone else say this, privatizing the functions of the USPS has been a republican strategy for almost 3 decades. But 1/
Niddhogg
A strong postal union and defenders in congress like sanders have kept them from letting it happen. 50 cents to send a birthday card 2/
Niddhogg
Somewhere rural with USPS. UPS would charge over 10 bucks. Almost a $4 fee for rural shipping. USPS is an essential service enshrined in 3/
Niddhogg
The constitution. It must be protected against business interests that would harm Americans dependent for meds, social security etc
awildcharmander
We all know the Republicans salivate while daydreaming about Trump's shriveled up dick in their mouths so no one expects them to care
LokJok
Congress could override Trump anytime, but the Republicans are completely complicit in Trump's destruction of the USPS.
wadatahmydamie
Republicans are complicit. Trump is what they’ve always been. When he’s gone, they’ll deny it and distance themselves, but he IS the party.
birdoe
Yeah they should. But I'm afraid what they'd be yelling about....
itsthevoiceman
They should. But they're complicit with Trump's administration, helping to exacerbate everything.
Jagadid
The Republicans are the ones letting this happen/ They're complicit with each action he takes when they refused to remove him, even.
SpicyPeanuts27
Their sponsors are making too much money for them to get upset atm
DFunk187
Its pretty cult like at this point.
theGildedDanMan
Yeah that’s not true.
DarkZalgo
Yes it is. It's not even just the Trump admin. Republicans have been trying to dismantle the USPS for decades.
theGildedDanMan
Oh tbf I hate what’s going on with the USPS and I frankly don’t really understand why it’s happening.
DarkZalgo
Dejoy is doing it because he stands to gain money from it, and Trump got him to do it to steal the election.
scuttlRunner
Clarify? They refused to impeach. All of this is their fault.
theGildedDanMan
Refused to impeach because it sets a really bad precedent to follow through with that shallow amount of evidence. Honestly we should all be/
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theGildedDanMan
Happy about it, cuz it means that come next shittt dem candidate won’t easily be impeached either.
Markamanic
I hope you guys find a way to criminally charge trump and everyone who's complicit in his actions IF trump loses this november.
NotMyUsualOnlineName
Attorney General's office of the Southern District of NY already has charges lined up and ready to go. Bad thing is, they're only state
NotMyUsualOnlineName
level charges for things like fraud and such that he committed while a private citizen. He could still be prosecuted for some of the illegal
NotMyUsualOnlineName
things he's done while in office, but that might set a "retaliation" precedent. Guiliani has already been screaming that if "Democrats" try
ChloePrice
No, they're fascists. All the "moderate" Republicans express leftist values, they just dislike tha title for some reason. Right is nazis.
Imalwaysready
Yes. They should. They would have 30 years ago. The new GOP is no longer the old GOP.
sc363
If they go against trump it would tear their insanely corrupt party apart and many would be voted out to begin their careers in lobbying.
koflan
They're already doing a great job with dismantling and partnering or society for profit, what more do you want?
aninvisiblemaniac
they're brainwashed
DrKriegersClone
Suppressing the blue votes helps their house reps and the senators who are up for reelection too. They think this is a great idea.
schocker28
Yes but almost everyone of them has thrown their party under the bus to support Trump.
glaug
No, Trump didn't come to abolish the Republican Party, but to fulfill it. This is the result of generations of work.
RedWingedBlackbirds
*the country
armenite
Constituents.
bricard2347
Why they are the ones trying to steal the election this is their doing
FirstRedemption
Yes, they should, but this is all a game to all of them up there and you know you can’t root for the other team when playing a game...
railgap
No one trusts or expects the Repubs to do the right thing - not for a long, long time.
MireLurkKing
Sure but the Lincoln Project can't do everything for Democrats.
RokosBasilisk
You must be new here. ?
Debiandog
Or Really old. Nixon got caught and had the decency to step down. Those days are long gone
JohnnyMaverick
Don't get it confused, Nixon was going to fight it out until the last minute. He had more integrity than the orange asshole, but barely.
KWJester49
He at least didn’t try to prevent his staff from testifying
theGildedDanMan
Yeah it’s so vogue to hate republicans here. Imgurians don’t like to settle with disagreeing with people’s point, they have to hate them too
RokosBasilisk
Not at all. I think your statement is ridiculous, but I don’t hate you for it. Don’t project your own qualities, or lack of, onto everyone.
theGildedDanMan
No I wasn’t I was trying to be humorous whilst expressing bitterness for the amount of “punch a nazi” attitude people here have towards/
theGildedDanMan
Basic right wing people
awildcharmander
I can disagree with you and still like you if you don't like the shows/hobbies/games I like. But, if you support this administration, ...
awildcharmander
I do kinda hate you. ("you" as in the reader not you specifically)
Rapturesfall
It's insulting to our country as a whole to have blatant corruption going, and the people who can do something about it just *shrug* nah,
theGildedDanMan
It’s also insulting to have people wanting to give illegal immigrants the right to vote which would blatantly hand dems every election, not/
theGildedDanMan
Not* that I disagree with you however.
Rapturesfall
I haven't heard any factual evidence for anyone "giving" illegal immigrants the right to vote. You have to have a soc number and proof of
Rapturesfall
It's fine, you keep doing you." The hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance is so ridiculously insane.
TheAngryMarineBiologist
At this point I think people have just accepted that 'Republican politician = Entirely morally bankrupt and corrupt'
DianNaoChong
Republicans whole doctrine is sabotaging government and pointing and saying 'see it doesn't work'
RicochetSaw
They would if us politics hadn't degraded to tribalism
SpaceballsTheComment
Why them? Shouldn't you be on the streets yelling? Your vote isn't the only voice you have, you know?
jbsquare
I would be but this isn't happening in Canada.
JohnnyMaverick
What an exceptionally stupid and condescending comment. They are our representatives. They are literally paid to do what OP asked for.
SpaceballsTheComment
Oh, they get paid alright. But how representative are your representatives?
HieroGliffin
That’s the point. They should be. But since they’re not, it’s up to dems to spotlight them and ask why. Maybe it’ll reach some that need it.
mormacil
Why would they? This heavily favors them unlike the Democrats and the population.
birdoe
They should be it's the American thing to do.
mormacil
Not by their definition of American
notsureofanything
It doesn’t though. Most affected by this is going to be rural populations, consumers and small businesses.
mormacil
Only matters if those people also realize this and aren't fed a steady diet of lies and hate.
jbsquare
Shiiiiiiiit, when party is more important than Democracy... not sure how you guys are going to get out of this.
crazyspelling
Well, historically, either they'll all get put up against a wall and shot, or some General will march on DC and declare himself Emperor.
mormacil
It's slowly gonna get worse as the Dems talk about keeping the peace for the greater good till there's a violent revolution.
transference
I think we’re done with that failed strategy, tbh
mormacil
The voters or the politicians? I think Biden is heavily gonna push the 'forgive and forget for national unity' route. Harris is the same.
DrKriegersClone
* Revolution attempt. The left might have a few percent more voters, but I think they're outnumbered in people committed enough to fight. 1/
DrKriegersClone
2/ With the police being heavily behind the side on which their bread is buttered, the left would be facing long odds unless the military
djzapz
Something happened to republicans in the last few years.
TheRealGeorgeMcfly
I read something about a republican meeting at the start of Obamas first term where they pretty much made it their mission to make democrats
TheRealGeorgeMcfly
fail in every way they possibly could. So, not to implement policy, just to stop democrats from being able to accomplish anything...
LaronX
Last few years. Sure keep pretending like the patriot act didn't grow on there shit or the "war on drugs" no totally new issue
djzapz
Their bullshit is not new but it changes. Also let's not forget the Patriot Act was voted in by both parties. Only 1/49 dem senators and
djzapz
62/207 dem representatives voted against the Patriot Act. Still, my point is that GOP politicians used to occasionally pretend not to be
djzapz
immoral, racist pieces of shit. Trump's election shows them they can absolutely be exactly what they are and the repercussions are limited.
EMBugReports
Mitt Romney is basically the only Senate Republican outspoken against Trump, so that means he's either rich enough and/or not blackmailable.
Onda6g
His constituency is notably different than the broader GOP, not sure how much a role this plays but it's something
Golgothanworm
They found out the Russians hacked the RNC as well. They have all the RNC's Blackmail files. therefore Trump probably does too.
kizzle69
That's what happens when Russia shows you the clip of you raping children, that they recorded at the "safe" brothel.
Richter12x2
Yeah, you really think the tape is just a 'pee tape'? No one would care. When they show the hookers are 12, it's harder to shrug off.
Blundermore
Money happened. It was ethics and morality vs money... most surviving republicans chose to sell out.
wadatahmydamie
“The last few years” meaning the last 60 years.
WhyAreAllTheCleverUsernamesTaken
I want to know what he has over their heads
WhyDidISignUpForThis
Probably not a semantic difference that Graham meant to make, but "race baiting" does not necessarily make him "racist."
djzapz
If you're going to try to be pedantic you can do better than that.
deekermans31415
What do you think he meant by xenophobic bigot?
coolranchchips
xenophobic and bigot often also imply racism.
theGildedDanMan
Is that not a case where a person simply changed his mind on a topic. Tbf racism isn’t one of the shitty qualities I’ve seen in trump.
wadatahmydamie
So do you see it as a good quality then?
theGildedDanMan
No I said it isn’t one of the many shitty qualities that he does have.
wadatahmydamie
Or do you think he called Nazis “very fine people” and retweeted a video of a guy screaming “White Power” because he’s tolerant?
theGildedDanMan
I think he’s a dumbass old person.
IveGotRedOnMe
I have a theory. Trump got dirt on the most influential of GOP members. They come along, their voters too, the rest follow.
djzapz
You're implying he's competent enough to dig that dirt. I think they just gain in the short term by not having integrity.
IveGotRedOnMe
He's never been competent to do much of anything. I meant to imply he had others get the dirt on others for him. Like everything else
justeandj
Remember when the DNC was hacked? My theory is Russia hacked both, and RNC paid to keep it hidden. That’s why GOP all remain complicit.
JoeMamadonBaker
Trump is not the whole problem, he is merely a symptom of the ideology of the Republican Party.
Bignholy
This. he is the pinnacle of what the modern GOP stands for, and until they change, the Democrats don't have to try and be better either.
Bignholy
Because they can point at Trump and say "At least we are not that."
ProphetofEntropy
its simply money, trump is helping the rich so the rich give to superpacs so politicians get untraced money for "campaigns"
IveGotRedOnMe
It's more than that but yes, that's a part of it. And has been a part of politics for some time.
ProphetofEntropy
call it what you want, its avarice
DonaldTrump4President2020
To be fair.. Biden VP said the same thing about Biden a year ago
wadatahmydamie
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Source
Richter12x2
Yep, I'll bet Obama's VP was a rabid racist.
itsthevoiceman
Trump won. That's it. That's what changed. Graham has no scruples.
ATerribleArtist
What's a scriple?
jimmierussell
I think he's been turned. Photos of him with a dead girl or, more likely, a live boy.
Golgothanworm
Yep that dime turned when he found out Russia hacked the RNC's files. Trump has all the dirt the RNC used to control its members.
justeandj
It was that golf game. They played golf together one weekend and LG came back tweeting glowing praise. Everyone got whiplash, then moved on.
armenite
Little help, South Carolina?
GifAnon
We don't like that motherfucker either
Rahube01
We are working on it.
PackWulver
We’re trying man. This is kinda a retirement state and old people aren’t very willing to accept change.
GrabherbythePuss
Very much so, I moved to Surfside beach in January. Getting anywhere takes forever because old folks are in no rush to get anywhere
84321
There are also poor people and military! Poor people are too busy trying to pay $1500/mo in rent while making $12/hr, and the military (1/2)
84321
Is there to serve to government, not overthrow them
nobodylikeskale
Just moved from there, can confirm
DocWats
Same. I've lived in OK, and born in KY, so it feels like I'm drawn to shitty politicians and states that support them...fuck