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Narfbat
one of the best sci-fi shows such a shame it got axed after 1 season and the movie left it in such a bad place.
SchwiftyGameOnPoint
digasisv
Nah, Farscape.
ObiwanHasTheHighGround
Scobragon
It's STARGÅTE!
Dappin
nimeton0
Maulbert
3rd best. Wrath of Khan and Undiscovered Country are still better Star Trek movies.
StillNotYouTube
The wrath of khan is soooo good. And a miracle that it got made after the first movie.
BambooMan744
Battlestar Galactica
anaberration
Oh yesah, the Captain Chonk episodes...
manulofdoom
Despite my general hatred for reboots, a stargate reboot might work. I have been thinking a lot about it recently. >
manulofdoom
>Some barely-touched concepts could be used in interesting ways. Like, the implications of a species having genetic memory.
YouWillNeverFindMe
I enjoy them all
boobafette
the expanse
Chilieater
Narfbat
i feel a disturbance in the farce as if a trillion nerds cried out all at once, then where suddenly silenced.
MrFancyPanzer
BlackCatCasper
You say that alot
mikeatike
Do I?
BlackCatCasper
I’ve never noticed…
SanchoPliskin
Boomboomyeahshaketheroom
RunawaySpoons
EatAllTheBoudin
Baskerville84
HeadJamistan
HeadJamistan
vindik8or
I liked Stargate very much, but after the defeat of Apophis it turned into Dragoball Z in terms of repeated threat escalation.
EatAllTheBoudin
I’m currently working my way through SG1 for the first time and just got to the Ori, so yeah, kinda feels that way. Are the movies worth it?
EatAllTheBoudin
Movies being Ark of Truth and continuum
vindik8or
I couldn't tell you. I got your feeling during the replicator menace and didn't keep up with the changing broadcast times in my country.
Narfbat
also Baal is the main enemy with Continuum and we get to see an alternate version of Vala still as a goa'uld.
Narfbat
ark of truth provides a final ending/closure to the Ori story. Continuum is actually a fun throw back with time travel
wrenchhead
theansweralwaysliessomewhereinbetween
Been trying for years to get my friends who “only like old trek” to watch this show.
Wampa842
Drummer - the backbone of the Belt. Even caught between a rock and a hard place, she stands for her people!
ReLighter
Love her. She was amazing.
OriginalSyn
Camina+Klaes was the best character in the show.
DrDego42
Just finished this series! AMAZING!
Asoldasatoms
What is the name of this series, asking for a friend... I am the friend .
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The Expanse
Asoldasatoms
Thank u
Rainbowdot
The Expanse on Amazon Prime.
acetothermus
If you haven't already, I HIGHLY recommend reading the books.
Zipbang
lol watched the series, started the first book, got half way though and realized I had tried reading the book before only to quit...
DrDego42
How are they compared to the show? Major creative differences? I may have to anyway for the final wrap up. So many loose ends!!!
TheCastleMan
Mostly the same. Drummer and Michio are basically swapped in the books. The end of season 5 did have an unexpected death not in the books
DrDego42
Is it the person that stroked out? I really thought they didn’t do the character justice! It was just “oh they’re dead.” ?
acetothermus
It's amazing how closely the show matched the books. It's obvious the writers were involved in the shows production.
treed240z
The Expanse is one of the extreme few that actually makes an attempt at the SCIENCE part in Sci-fi. It's the best.
HiddenSanity
Please note, Star Wars is a space opera, not sci-fi at all, Star Trek and Stargate are both adventure tales with light sci-fi elements.
CoolSteve10
Space opera is still a sub-genre of science fiction. To me Star Wars is sword and sorcery set in space.
HiddenSanity
That's more Sci-Fantasy, blending the aesthetic of Sci-Fi and the storytelling of fantasy, which, don't get me wrong, is fun. But not scifi.
BeetBoxer
In my albeit limited understanding of astrophysics, I thought the 2000s Battlestar Galactica series was quite good on science and sociology.
jimplaysgames10
Aka hard sci fi
vindik8or
Moreso earlier in the show than later.
Daevram1123
What? No love for the show that was so good Stargate brought 2 of the main actors on to revive ratings
RunawaySpoons
DenStortalendeMester
Jamerperson
This change was actually not the greatest for me. I enjoyed farscape, but bringing both characters over at the same time hurt the show forme
Daevram1123
I didn't say it worked. Their writing team was pretty tapped out by that point. It was, however, another chance to oogle Claudia Black.
Assholethecat
Remember the time the stage hand came into the shot attaching the ships hose to the guys neck? I laughed so hard
ShoopMcCloop
I do remember that....
Ijustwantquiet
DJSckytzo
FARSCAPE
MattMcC980
Why not all of them?
Assholethecat
Meh Star Wars but yeah Stargate is fun. Seaquest S1 is great as well. Orville. Farscape. A lot of good ones too many to name.
Godryc
Exactly this!!! As a SciFi fan I wan ALL of the SciFies!!!
ramblinrebel
hell yeah! star trek, star wars, orville,red dwarf, doctor who, stargate, farscape on and on so many great universes!
RunawaySpoons
Evo435
You can have a favorite show without disliking the others.
stavesacre
The late 80’s to the early aughts were a golden age of science fiction television
Mewmus
in the star wars vs star trek debate, i can happily say: "both sides"
BeetBoxer
Hahaha, the only time that's acceptable.
ItsPhotoShoppedByMe
i.imgur.com/3bP270Q.jpg Hallowed are the children of the Ori.
acetothermus
Clearly it's Babylon 5. *zips up flame suit*
Baskerville84
Pace171921
Yes, but what do you WANT?
ralphie84
ravagefox
Oh I loved to hate Morden
acinonyxjubatus
*encounter suit
mikeatike
And do something!
mikeatike
miked854
mikeatike
Hey kid I'm a computer.
angiepai
I second that!
Quebeker
Farscape
forcefulpuspus
I like Babylon 5 but the CGI is awful now and really kills it for me
mikeatike
It's groundbreaking. Star Trek was still using models at this time, B5 was able to do entire fleets on TV.
Volpe42
It is where they got DS9 from after all
EchoWhiskyBravo
myfirstandlastpostever
Beat me to it brave one!
Vauclain
B5 is hit and miss, but when it hits, hoo boy
JackCrab
Watching them depict Earth First fascism feels pretty real in the US right now.
myfirstandlastpostever
This is why it would be a great time for a reboot…
Gryphonosiris
Fav episode of "Passing through Gesemane". Man, that one hits hard.
acinonyxjubatus
Poor Wormtongue.
ardtay
...I hear you...hehehehe
sharkmommychompers
The expanse. I'll accept my punishment.
NZSheeps
They're all good scifi, Bront
acetothermus
The Expanse is better than BOTH Star Trek and Star Wars. Fight me.
sharkmommychompers
Star trek is inspiration, the expanse feels gritty real
acetothermus
Exactly. It feels like that's where we will end up, not where we are going.
sharkmommychompers
Unless we all come together and modernize our work force to no longer need human input, we will liberate ourselves from capitalism. Hopeful.
FleetingExplative
https://i.imgur.com/7JrIY02
ThisIsSteel
Weird the way you spelled Farscape.
natabus
You mean late seasons of Stargate? ;)
FullTimeDisaster
Correct answer. I like my sci Fi weird, horny, and weirdly horny
sharkmommychompers
I enjoyed black matter for this very reason. Tbh.
Bizarkly
"No -- *not* the one..."
johnson442
Not yet
mikeatike
Whatdoyousaytoanicecupoftea
Babylon 5 is a big pile of shit!
Volpe42
How dare you talk about DS9 that way
angiepai
Sad you didn’t enjoy the show. I absolutely love it
ralphie84
Vauclain
Tip of the hat. Also, Hawk the Slayer is rubbish.
Vauclain
Also, I feel bad for those who didn’t get the reference and downvoted you :(
Whatdoyousaytoanicecupoftea
It's okay. I enjoy the misery
mikeatike
Hekatombe
ForgeGoremann
Hekatombe
RunawaySpoons
Bit weird to have the US flag around her, being Canadian and all
NeverDownvoteMelBrooks
SirReginaldJackson3rd
lowerider777
How the fuck am I just now finding out Wayne Brady was in Stargate!?
semperknight
Dude I marathoned the hell out of this series and I don't remember it either.
Grenateh
Every actor was in SG
BlackCatCasper
ORVILLE
kingbudo101
flash gordon fools
NZSheeps
*Flesh
sagejosh0
He’s going to save everyone of us!
RalphH
flash uhuuuuu
AnonKneeMoose
No ‘Star’ name in it
Napsaremymistress
Gordon’s alive?!
coderay
Firefly. End of debate.
BluePaladin42
Season 1 was so great but given how Whedon is as a storyteller I have a feeling it would have gotten insufferably bleak had it gone on.
Grenateh
Firefly isn’t sci-fi
caedescorvidus
Stargrave3000
Overrated.
dudehiemer
Mando is better than Firefly, for one good reason. Mando had a second season.
Assholethecat
Star Wars could make a show about raping Ewoks and still get a second season. Firefly was original. SW is just more of the same shit
thevortexmaster
Didn't like it.
ChaosPersonified
I'll just sit here and reread my Battletech source books, you all hash this out and let me know who won...
Grenateh
Why not the novels?
ChaosPersonified
Had those out, novels buried somewhere.
Trankia12
Spoiler alert: nobody won!
AllHailTheMoose
Star wars fans don't even like star wars
Anonymouse64
Yeah, tbh they've put me off the whole thing in recent years. I'm just sick of it always being a big fight now.
DrBadGenes
Well 3 movies were amazing 3 were okay, created an amazing universe, then every other movie shit all over the concept
YouCanCallMeCal
And star trek fans like Orville more
delecti
I once heard that "Star Wars" is a vibe that none of the movies themselves individually capture, and I feel that describes my feelings well.
FirstAidPoetry
I really like the universe they built, they just don’t do a great job of capturing it. Many of the books are great though.
BORGALOOGIE
The books on your own shelf should hold the personal meaning you alone give them
Rule63Revan
Watching/reading/playing Star Wars for some fans is like ordering off a menu. There are things you won't like and things you love.
JustAPileOfCats
There's honestly something for everyone in Star Wars, and that's only going to become truer with time
barnsandnobel
Its kinda strange cause i hate star wars, but i like watching it.
FrenchTheLlama2
Not anymore, we just remember it fondly while Disney gives everyone their own series. Tune in for "Lobot: Untold" on Disney+ September 2024
KingXizor
Star Wars Expanded Universe fans do. Fuck Disney.
HazerWanKenobi
*toxic fans. There are things i dont like in the Star Wars universe but i still love it as a whole and dont go trolling on the internet.
Drjekell
I prefer the books. Better stories better writing with way more diversity in setting/history. You really get to feel the universe there.
iamthisguy247
As a Star Wars fan I mostly like all things Star Wars on some level (yes prequels, sequels and shows), so clearly I’m not a real SW fan.
Arcian
I don't really like the movies, even the original ones. The Old Republic era stories are vastly superior.
PotOfJam
I am not a fan, I liked the new trilogy.
kebabpipe
So how do you know if you are a fan?
Smayds
You spin around and blow air
sarkonas
To be fairs, it's not the fans that are the problem. There's more bad SW movies than good ones now.
KuldFyt
blaknwhitejungl
https://media.giphy.com/media/3o6Mb8tGytJTurYXEk/giphy.gif
Malikhi
More like we hate the movies cuz none of them do justice to the lore they're trying to portray. The canon books are lit though.
TheWombatStrikesAgain
Ask any Star Trek fan what they thought of Discovery or Picard.
zeacorzeppelin10
Star Wars Stans love it until a key moment where "it ruined my childhood" and then it will be burned at the stake.
AtomicSpatula
If Disney did to Stargate what they have done to Star Wars, you would understand.
hesbeginningtobelieve
I like the original Star Wars. The rest is decent, not fantastic
OptimisticMisanthrope
I love star wars, but man do I hate the fans. We're one of the worst, most toxic Fandoms ever. I apologize to everyone on behalf of people.
FarceMajeure
Star Wars fans love nothing more than complaining about star wars
Sutashi
I would be inclined to say star wars fandom doesn't like star wars. Star wars fans do.
kaiserkevin
Prequels led to a dip, but rebounded after several great game/cartoon releases. Sequels have led to big dip, only thing going now is Mando
JustAPileOfCats
We have so many shows right now though, Mando is hardly alone.
kaiserkevin
Ya but I ran out of characters. Not sure if the shows can fully recover the movies' failures. Haven't seen new games either.
JustAPileOfCats
I'm not sure what you're looking for in SW but, there's something for everyone, in what's already out and what's yet to come.
kaiserkevin
Had best experiences w/stuff in the past, new stuff is having a hard time comparing. Feel like a downer mostly, so kinda stopped investing.
DeeDoubleYu
I do! But I wouldn't go around yelling that I'm a star wars fan, I just like the movies.
Davmoran
Star Wars fandom had a split after the Disney Sequel Trilogy. One camp thinks the movies are dogshit, the other can't get enough. 1/2
Davmoran
2/2 The Mandalorian, however, is universally liked and makes it tough for the ones that hate Disney Wars to say they hate all of it.
HiddenSanity
DrDred
So called Star Wars fans.
Keairan
As a former star wars fan, the last good SW movie that I saw was Rogue One.
CommodusLeitdorf
Its true, all Star Wars fans talk about is how much they hate Star Wars. They are utterly insufferable.
DonaldFuck
I like the way I perceive SW, not the way others do.
zealabyrinth
Was your favorite part of ESB where Han just outright harassed Leia at her place of work? Or when he sexually assaults her?
CE0485
Is it work place hareasment when you’re rebelling against an “elected”government?
zealabyrinth
Yup. Misogyny is misogyny shockingly. Especially when written by Hollywood.
CE0485
I’m not saying Hans not wrong I’m saying you’re wrong in calling it a work place…..
Trankia12
FistingWithJalapenoDoritoFingers
I like the cool laser swords and the pew pew and the space battles and the telekinesis, im very easy to please
ucandcantunc
No one hates Star Wars like Star Wars fans…
Wampa842
Damn Star Wars fans, they've ruined Star Wars!
LongoloidFartExplosion
*Disney.
Kommadore
They kept the tradition of making bad movies alive after the prequel trilogy. Somehow managed to make Rogue One fire tho.
Asadsadsadclown
*George Lucas
JustAPileOfCats
The ones you most often find shouting about hating it tend to be part of a small, but frustratingly very loud and active, minority.
Maulbert
The squeaky wheel gets the grease. It's annoying.
MithridateEupator
That's because the bad stuff is the stuff that panders to a broad audience. So hardcore fans hate it and casuals love it.
JustAPileOfCats
Star Wars has always had a very broad appeal, though. There are so many different elements that speak to different audiences.
MithridateEupator
Right, which is why the hardcore fans have always suffered.
JustAPileOfCats
In what way do "hardcore" fans suffer from the movies being as broadly accessible today as they were in the 70s and 80s?
zealabyrinth
Or people who have read books…
JustAPileOfCats
Which books?
zealabyrinth
Any. I’m implying Star Wars fans wouldn’t appreciate those shit movies if they’d read a well written story.
JustAPileOfCats
It's harmless, silly, fun escapism that has helped a lot of people get through hard times and you can fuck right off with that bullshit.
PeregrinFalconPunch
I'll be honest, as SW fan I actually like the Kenobi series. I know I'm in the minority, but still...
Inmate45
I loved it, but the ending sucked - but the ending had to suck. There couldn't be closure. We know where everyone ends up. No one could die.
Smayds
It had a couple problems but overall was really good, I thought.
kyro
You're not the minority though. Reviews and ratings for it were both good. But the bitching was loud enough to make you think otherwise.
DonaldFuck
People didn't like it?
Sutashi
I had no idea. Everyone I've talked to enjoyed it.
Trankia12
There are haters for everything these days. I kinda feel bad for those people never able to enjoy anything.
DeeDoubleYu
You're allowed to like what you like! Haven't seen it yet but I enjoy most star wars stuff ^^
Trankia12
Lichelf
I think the fact that people just stopped bringing it up after the last episode shows how mediocre it was. Perfectly watchable, nothing else
Sutashi
Want to join me in the ultra minority? I enjoyed all of the movies & all of the live action series. I'm starting on the animated series.
JustAPileOfCats
You, I like you. Clone Wars has problems but it's generally great, Rebels is top tier when it gets going, and Resistance is fun, but short.
JustAPileOfCats
captaingeerex
Oh you’re in for quite a ride. Clone Wars doesn’t start strong, but it gets pretty darn good and has a lot of heart. As does Rebels.
Trankia12
I honestly don't get peoples problems with it. It was good, I cN understand not liking Boba fett, although I liked that one too.
Rahava
From a writing perspective and film making one, on a technical level, it's horrible. It ruins the enjoyment for me.
TheThoughtsOfAFatGirl
DavidBrooker
Likewise, there is a *heavy* schism about anything in Star Trek since Enterprise.
MyBigMouth
Considering the huge steaming shite they did all over the canon; fully justified.
2graves
Eh not that heavy. Discovery onward maybe
LongoloidFartExplosion
Enterprise was where the rot started to set in.
Dhatudhatu
Fully agreed.