Every time I see these re-processed film clips I think the same things: A. it's cool that machine learning can help correct the slight over-cranking and restore normal speed 2. So many hats. Soooo many hats. And D. Every one looks noticeably trim
It actually looks like NY was all white back then. All jokes aside, my favorite thing about NY today is the cultural diversity. I grew up and lived my whole life in queens NY and it's amazing how many cultures I've witnessed and learned about.
Oh absolutely! My grandfather immigrated to NY from Italy in 1922 as a kid. When he went back to Italy and met my grandmother he eventually convinced her to move back with him by explaining to her how culturally diverse it was.
This might be the worst example of the unnecessary music thing...partly because that song is awful...but mostly because there was plenty of music from the 1930s that could have been chosen...like how about the original version of "Sing Sing Sing (With a Swing)" by Louis Prima and the New Orleans Gang (1936) or "If I Didn't Care" by The Ink Spots (1935)?
baseball wad crazy popular and chewing gum was a huge part of the game. NPR did a story on it. Sports psychologist speculate "it's kind of boring bring in the field, players needed something to do"
Facial hair of any kind was unacceptable at DisneyLand with the exception of growing your mustache on your vacation. They changed this policy less than 10 years ago.
They sure loved looking the same as everyone else. No individuality. However that was one of the things that made america strong. If only we could all get rid of this "got mine" attitude and start thinking like a hive again. For the betterment of all mankind.
They took hats off inside, though, so that probably wasn't it. Hats were sun protection, unless you lived in a forest or something, you'd have one on pretty much all the time outside. No sunglasses either, so it would help with the glare.
Generally accepted folkism was that John Kennedy killed the hat on young American men in the 1960's. He and Jackie were THE style leaders and he rarely wore one. At the time of his death, my father (and his friends) almost all wore a hat as normally as socks.
It isn't so much JFK but that not everyone needs them like they used. The fashion was already in decline by the time JFK was in office. A ton more people own cars by that period, more cars means less exposure to the elements, meaning less needs for hats.
We went from riding on horses during rainstorms to motor vehicles. From walking to most places to driving, even public transportation is more robust than back then when the city might only have a single trolley.
Reading both of these answers, it seems like both may be true at once - a cultural shift began, and a popular figure cemented it. I'd guess if it was the other way, and JFK was in tune with the fashion of the time and the trend wasnt already going that way, he wouldn't have forgone the hat.
Unless one of the oldest people in the world happens to be walking by. :) Oldest person still living was born in 1907, a couple more were born in 1908, some also in 1909. Oldest man still alive was born in 1912, he could be the guy bringing the papers. :) Amazing to think about how the world has changed for them.
Most of the man in this video will be fighting nazis in europe in ten years and the rest (man and woman) will be in factories building planes and bombs and shit for the effort.. without knowing that their grand grand children will be fighting nazis from within, 79 years after they won the war.. go figure
Maybe the reason there are no sapient hive minds is that once they reach a critical mass it's only a matter of time before the hive mind master is like "were doing all this...for WHAT AGAIN??"
And sends the order to kill all of its everyone and just suicides right there.
Might just be where I live but I rarely find find people that are obviously fat, I am one of them and working to change it but I always look around and most days I’m the biggest guy in the room, 6’260, rarely see anyone close to that
Well you see corporations took over absolutely everything including the food industries, healthcare, and the government that regulates health standards, advertising, and all laws, etc. So it's not really surprising.
Also everyone using cars and rarely walking, also processed foods. Although there could be other reasons too, like chamicals that have gotten into our bodies, or microplastics. The reason I say that is that lab animals, who have very strict, unchanged diets, have been getting fatter over the years. There's no apparent reason for that to be happening. Wild animals are too. https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/abs/10.1098/rspb.2010.1890
It isn't a mystery at all It's due to humankind overtime manipulating food stocks to be more and more calorie effective by having more and more carbs It's also reduced the amount of vitamins and minerals that are being absorbed and is one of the other major environmental affect humans have had. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/mar/28/vegetables-losing-nutrients-biofortification
SO.... do you see anyone overweight? Look at an average NYC street almost a hundred years later. Look at WWII soldiers, Korea, Nam, then look at today.... it'll jump out at you.
These are well dressed New Yorkers out on a business day. Not starving out in Oklahoma in the dust bowl which is most pictures. These are also not down in Hell's Kitchen, Bowery etc. People did not weigh what they do today, not even close. I weighed 145lbs in Army 1970, didn't know anyone over 200. I'm 230 today and that's down, not throwing stones here. Just pointing out that in the late 1970s something radically changed in America.
In a nutshell, science went too far and calories became insanely cheap with the rise of highly processed foods. They've taken over as the least expensive, most wildly available foods and are simultaneously the least healthy.
Idk the history, but I don't think the quality of food in the US is talked about enough when it comes to obesity. It's all about placing blame on the consumer, but lemme tell ya - when I was diagnosed w/diabetes and started paying attention to labels, I was/still am horrified by the amt of sugar in *everything*. Being poor exacerbates it w/the markup on things that *aren't* loaded w/sugar. Ntm food ads/labels ride the line of false advertising, making ppl think smth is healthy when it's not. /1
In the 1950's, the sugar industry poured millions into marketing sugar as a healthy item, from anything like "instant energy" to actual weight loss strategy. They bribed scientists to show sugar as healthy and fat as unhealthy instead.
Not saying consumers bear no responsibility, but there are layers upon layers to the problem, and like most things the end of the line comes down to who is profiting from it.
Dimind
I wonder if 90 years from now there will be upgrades taking 2020s stock footage into 3d/hologram
darrell12
Notice there are no fat people
DiracsDelta
And you play a song from 1969?
B2SteakSauce
What a time it was to be a hat
KallmeSasha
I'm not saying that guy had a head in his ice box but...
film888master9
Papers or drug deal?
spamsmells
Everyone is skinny
oldguyexlurker
Oh, to own a haberdashery in the 30s...
Thefsm
God I’m glad women don’t still have to wear gloves all the time
TankTrain
Every single one of those guys looks like they'd tell me to go fuck myself in a heartbeat.
Sherpafish
Why is the music bubblegum pop from the late 60s?
woozle
"chewing and chewing all day long [the way that a cow does]-oompa loompa loompety doo"
hotrodny
I think that is a case of the Chewing Gum
gonzos247
Look at all those skinny people
cloverleafbane
I spy Hugh Laurie at :13
jeflhic127001
I noticed the fact that they were almost universally fit looking not the tubby tubbys we have now on average.
michaelfire
everyone was skinny
IwishIwasJamesBond
Why does everything need shitty music nowadays?
ScaredSpitless
Every time I see these re-processed film clips I think the same things: A. it's cool that machine learning can help correct the slight over-cranking and restore normal speed 2. So many hats. Soooo many hats. And D. Every one looks noticeably trim
architectidonna
Look at all those thin people!
PTK74
No fat fucks in sight.
stephanmarshay
Everybody was thin!
oukid
Everyone looks thin!
MyVirginityIsGrowingBack
Hmm, IDK, I am pretty sure NYC was in Black and White in the 1930s.
GSA1386
It actually looks like NY was all white back then. All jokes aside, my favorite thing about NY today is the cultural diversity. I grew up and lived my whole life in queens NY and it's amazing how many cultures I've witnessed and learned about.
malexmatt
It had cultural diversity back then, too. There's a lot that hides under the moniker 'white'.
GSA1386
Oh absolutely! My grandfather immigrated to NY from Italy in 1922 as a kid. When he went back to Italy and met my grandmother he eventually convinced her to move back with him by explaining to her how culturally diverse it was.
NLOVNI
I think it was. Calvin’s Dad said so.
Strategicgnomer
Must be this Al guy I keep hearing about who makes so many pictures and videos.
SomebodythatIusedtonope
So, where’s the black?
Sonicschilidogs
Harlem at this point in time
MyVirginityIsGrowingBack
clashatdemonhed
That’s the first thing I thought lol
SortaSordid
North of 110th/Central Pk. N. back then.
Tigersterne
Gottem
Jewdakris
cuddleskunk
This might be the worst example of the unnecessary music thing...partly because that song is awful...but mostly because there was plenty of music from the 1930s that could have been chosen...like how about the original version of "Sing Sing Sing (With a Swing)" by Louis Prima and the New Orleans Gang (1936) or "If I Didn't Care" by The Ink Spots (1935)?
stabthecrab
That’s a 50s song. Are people just dumb or do they do this on purpose
cuddleskunk
Which one? Sugar, Sugar is from 1969. I already listed the two dates for my suggestions...
Affray
There's such a big bag of jazz and swing music that they could have dipped into, but instead we get the fucking Archies.
wadenelson
A newspaper delivery guy wearing stylish pleated trousers. Can you even imagine?
TheJuiceLoosener
The graphic tee hadn't even been invented yet. It was a barbaric time.
jumpbus360
Imagine what? His wage? Don't make me cry.
Escapist83
They sure loved their hats
gobby
Don't you love your phone ?
LariCheltsy
AND that newfangled "chewing" gum
Affray
I looked it up. Chewing gum came about in 1848 in Maine, it was spruce flavoured. And apparently 1930's people chewed a shit load of gum.
SarcasticComment
baseball wad crazy popular and chewing gum was a huge part of the game. NPR did a story on it. Sports psychologist speculate "it's kind of boring bring in the field, players needed something to do"
SarcasticComment
it also explains the spitting. players are bored in the dugout so eventually everyone plays some kind of spitting game.
jtxyz
My dad got his first professional office job in 1968.
Of course, suits were always required. But he told me that it was only a year or two previously that hats were dropped from the official dress code.
(With the exception of the guys that went out in the field I to the hat district)
Sticklebrickk
Facial hair of any kind was unacceptable at DisneyLand with the exception of growing your mustache on your vacation. They changed this policy less than 10 years ago.
ralphie84
anderlan
we have no idea... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_Hat_Riot
JohnSmithterms
They sure loved looking the same as everyone else. No individuality. However that was one of the things that made america strong. If only we could all get rid of this "got mine" attitude and start thinking like a hive again. For the betterment of all mankind.
Froggie243
How much of that coincides with effective hygiene available to the masses? Clean hair every day is a bitch. Hat is easy.
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
They took hats off inside, though, so that probably wasn't it. Hats were sun protection, unless you lived in a forest or something, you'd have one on pretty much all the time outside. No sunglasses either, so it would help with the glare.
pareidoliaperson
Or their Moses haircut.
PWBoiler
I’m actually surprised that there were several guys NOT wearing hats in this.
DoctahGhostly
Looks like it was during summer when dress code at most jobs, even upper class, made hats optional.
karcain
Its a pretty recent thing that hats are out of fashion. Everyone used to wear hats, a variety of hats, basically any time you werent indoors
Trimule
Generally accepted folkism was that John Kennedy killed the hat on young American men in the 1960's. He and Jackie were THE style leaders and he rarely wore one. At the time of his death, my father (and his friends) almost all wore a hat as normally as socks.
VictusVonGuyver
It isn't so much JFK but that not everyone needs them like they used. The fashion was already in decline by the time JFK was in office. A ton more people own cars by that period, more cars means less exposure to the elements, meaning less needs for hats.
We went from riding on horses during rainstorms to motor vehicles. From walking to most places to driving, even public transportation is more robust than back then when the city might only have a single trolley.
karcain
Reading both of these answers, it seems like both may be true at once - a cultural shift began, and a popular figure cemented it. I'd guess if it was the other way, and JFK was in tune with the fashion of the time and the trend wasnt already going that way, he wouldn't have forgone the hat.
MartianWeasel
Everyone in this video is dead.
DontYouHateWhenAllUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken
RUDE! :)
MightyIink
Except for that 1 baby in the womens womb who would be 94 years old now.
buttcreambandit
I was gunna say no. But I don’t see anyone under like 5 or 10 so ya
JaplesPHL
My grandfather was born in NYC in 1925 and is still living. We just celebrated his 99th birthday! If you spot a 5-15y/o they could still be alive.
DarkSock
And got mad bush
aslum
Most sure, but even if it was 1931 that's only 97 years, there are plenty of new yorkers over 100. In 2019 there were 5,780 centenarians.
CairoLen
But all of these people are adults.
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
Unless one of the oldest people in the world happens to be walking by. :) Oldest person still living was born in 1907, a couple more were born in 1908, some also in 1909. Oldest man still alive was born in 1912, he could be the guy bringing the papers. :) Amazing to think about how the world has changed for them.
mockingbird75
Most of the man in this video will be fighting nazis in europe in ten years and the rest (man and woman) will be in factories building planes and bombs and shit for the effort.. without knowing that their grand grand children will be fighting nazis from within, 79 years after they won the war.. go figure
Foxsayy
Maybe the reason there are no sapient hive minds is that once they reach a critical mass it's only a matter of time before the hive mind master is like "were doing all this...for WHAT AGAIN??"
And sends the order to kill all of its everyone and just suicides right there.
EdmundandHarald365
Most of the men fighting will fight in the Pacific, and of the men in the footage, probably only half of them at most.
blackstatic
"Most" Americans didn't go to Europe to fight the nazis and we Europeans can thank the Russians for helping us obliterate the Nazis in WW2.
Jimbolicious43
Came here to make that observation as well!
Ultracrepidarianmonkey
But damn were they thin. We're all so fat now and I say that as a fat person so....I find that depressing.
nero4ty2
Might just be where I live but I rarely find find people that are obviously fat, I am one of them and working to change it but I always look around and most days I’m the biggest guy in the room, 6’260, rarely see anyone close to that
HelpfulCorn
73% of Americans are overweight or obese!
themigbro
Nothing a global war can't fix, there is hope. /s
Mamaof2QTs
Look at everything you ate today. They didn’t exist in 1930.
BarderBetterFasterStronger
Well you see corporations took over absolutely everything including the food industries, healthcare, and the government that regulates health standards, advertising, and all laws, etc. So it's not really surprising.
criticalmassdriver
Well that would be the effects of a government pushing corn sugar and cheese on its population for 90 years.
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
Also everyone using cars and rarely walking, also processed foods. Although there could be other reasons too, like chamicals that have gotten into our bodies, or microplastics. The reason I say that is that lab animals, who have very strict, unchanged diets, have been getting fatter over the years. There's no apparent reason for that to be happening. Wild animals are too. https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/abs/10.1098/rspb.2010.1890
ScorpionSage
Whoah super interesting! Thanks for posting that
criticalmassdriver
It isn't a mystery at all It's due to humankind overtime manipulating food stocks to be more and more calorie effective by having more and more carbs It's also reduced the amount of vitamins and minerals that are being absorbed and is one of the other major environmental affect humans have had. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/mar/28/vegetables-losing-nutrients-biofortification
TheHelleri
With a song from almost 40 years later.
astrangehop
Archie wouldn't ev n get published till1942
Affray
Anything jazzy would fit perfectly. It's the only time in American history that jazz overtook all other forms of music in popularity.
jumpbus360
Yeah, that kinda threw me off to.
bloodystupidusername
Do-not-unmute.jog
Hurro
I mean it's not period correct but it's a fuckin banger. I'd unmute and be happy hearing that over the other TikTok bullshit.
TheHelleri
I mean so is Under Pressure by Queen and the lyrics would have worked better here. If we're gonna be anachronistic there's better options.
Hurro
I'm not disputing the accuracy, or inaccuracy, I just like the song and was pleasantly surprised hearing that over other usual choices.
ZK383
SO.... do you see anyone overweight? Look at an average NYC street almost a hundred years later. Look at WWII soldiers, Korea, Nam, then look at today.... it'll jump out at you.
Hudabah225
First thing I noticed was the size of the people.
Escapist83
It was also the start of the Great Depression. I don't know how quickly it happened but people might've been a little hungry.
ZK383
These are well dressed New Yorkers out on a business day. Not starving out in Oklahoma in the dust bowl which is most pictures. These are also not down in Hell's Kitchen, Bowery etc. People did not weigh what they do today, not even close. I weighed 145lbs in Army 1970, didn't know anyone over 200. I'm 230 today and that's down, not throwing stones here. Just pointing out that in the late 1970s something radically changed in America.
arewenotkingsandqueenstogether
Imo there are a few reasons - we became car-centric, the food is higher calorically and everyone smoked.
thedudeman519
It's worth noting that the NY obesity rates are 10 percent lower than the rest of the nation.
anicyril
Gee, why could that be... is it car ownership?
(It's almost definitely that fewer people drive in NYC.)
thedudeman519
Sure but the statistics I've found refer to the state. Im sure NYC skews the numbers though
LostChats
Corn syrup entered the chat.
(Just my guess)
ZK383
Jimmy Carter and the sugar tariffs.
borkmeister
In a nutshell, science went too far and calories became insanely cheap with the rise of highly processed foods. They've taken over as the least expensive, most wildly available foods and are simultaneously the least healthy.
kittyfajitas
Idk the history, but I don't think the quality of food in the US is talked about enough when it comes to obesity. It's all about placing blame on the consumer, but lemme tell ya - when I was diagnosed w/diabetes and started paying attention to labels, I was/still am horrified by the amt of sugar in *everything*. Being poor exacerbates it w/the markup on things that *aren't* loaded w/sugar. Ntm food ads/labels ride the line of false advertising, making ppl think smth is healthy when it's not. /1
RevolutionOnHerLips
In the 1950's, the sugar industry poured millions into marketing sugar as a healthy item, from anything like "instant energy" to actual weight loss strategy. They bribed scientists to show sugar as healthy and fat as unhealthy instead.
kittyfajitas
Not saying consumers bear no responsibility, but there are layers upon layers to the problem, and like most things the end of the line comes down to who is profiting from it.