Times Are Rough for Sales

Apr 17, 2023 12:42 AM

Quartz87

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Cobra Kai season 9 looking LIT AF.

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Just a reminder that dealership associations have pressured congress into signing anti-competitive laws in every state making it virtually illegal for a consumer to buy their cars direct from manufacturer which on average would reduce the cost of cars purchase by 20% Cite: James Suroweiecki (New Yorker '06): https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2006/09/04/dealers-choice-2

3 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 1

I guess he won't be coming down on price

3 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 0

Nope, he wax going down to the floor....

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Lots of Kyles high on coke and Monster energy drinks.

3 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 0

Used to get our Prius serviced there. The salesman were always pushy.

3 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

5-minutes prior: “I’m gonna catch hell from my manager on this, but I’ll throw in the mudflaps for free.”

3 years ago | Likes 236 Dislikes 0

“My girls got ‘em”

3 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 1

This is not very toyota-thon

3 years ago | Likes 89 Dislikes 2

It's HAPPY HONDA DAYS! Die heathen!!!

3 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 1

I’m guessing no one there is paid enough to get in the middle of that.

3 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

I see a lot of rage here.

3 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 0

And a fat bastard throwing a sucker punch

3 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

*Slaps face of car salesman* “you can fit so many fists in this baby!”

3 years ago | Likes 315 Dislikes 3

Great minds think alike. I was going to say "slaps manager. This bad boy can fit so many grievances"

3 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Is that a BDSM joke?

3 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

I didn't blow air out my nose. I legitimately chuckled. Excellent.

3 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

So many in? And I thought just one was a pretty big stretch.

3 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

This is comedy gold - well done! *updoot*

3 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

Someone commented before: “man, I had to FIGHT my boss to get you this GREAT DEAL”

3 years ago | Likes 110 Dislikes 1

SO good

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Your sales guy fighting his manager to get you the great deal he promised.

3 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

No matter what it looks like I always see the best possible scenario; so I believe this.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

They clearly need Don Ready. Live hard, sell hard.

3 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

What happened in Albuquerque? Forget about Querque!

3 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Hmm. I don't see anybody in this crowd that I'd want to buy a car from.

3 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 0

3 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Sales jobs are a great reminder that you either wasted your youth with poor education or a great motivator to learn better skills and get better jobs.

3 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I will add that yes, all jobs involve selling something, like yourself.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

UFC trying to get ad deals with Toyota now lol

3 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 1

Im just going to assume there was some wage theft going on.

3 years ago | Likes 60 Dislikes 1

Reddit rumor is it started over selling at msrp when markup was standard.

3 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 2

not wage theft per se then, but the sales people still get screwed.

3 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 2

also I imagine with these current interest rates that there arent many sales being made so they probably are feeling some pressure.

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Last time you slap the roof of my car, bitch.

3 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Toyotathon is lit AF

3 years ago | Likes 1043 Dislikes 3

Thanks for the laugh!!

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

There's a local Toyota dealership ad on this post, for me, at least 🤣

3 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

"two people enter, one person leaves" ~ the sacrifice Toyota demanded

3 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Thats how I got my Rav 4

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Limited stock, high interest rates, guys living off of commission. These are adults. Time to get up and walk out.

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

The holiest of days

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Hondadays is a little classier

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I don't know, I was greeted at Honda by a guy with a beard who had crumbs in it. They didn't even offer to open up any of the vehicles in the lot. We went down the street and a few hours later had a brand new Kia K5 that just got off the truck and hasn't even been filled up for test drives.

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

But now you have a Kia. :/

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

2022 kia K5 EX. Kia has come a long way in the last 10 years. Once you get out of the economy kias, the quality of the interior is better than VW and the options like heated steering wheel, heated and cooled seats put it in volvo and Audi territory for $10-20k less.

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I've been in a lot of cars while working at a body shop. Everyone drives altimas. Only BMW in the K5 price range is the 1 series. Infinity is a glorified nissan. Buick is an old person chevy. We chanted a car that can seat 4 adults and the K5 can get ne from DFW to Houston and back to DFW on 1 tank of gas at 40 meg's.

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The shorter dude in pink getting his shit rocked lmao. What makes me think he’s the manager…

3 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 2

He initially was in there and swinging, but then backed off, put his hands up, and then got his shit rocked. He then proceeded to push forward during the remaining fight...he seemed like someone who really wanted to fight, but lacked some experience...

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Camry all just get along?

3 years ago | Likes 208 Dislikes 6

And I live close to Milpitas! Drove further to buy a car once..

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Did you drive to Oakland Toyota? Even with Oakland’s sketchiness that dealership is worth going to

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Because no one will go there?

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You work with 1 person, they charge MSRP, and it takes a couple hours. It’s a pretty good experience, other than the fact that you’re in Oakland

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

He don't think it B210 but it do.

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Sing a song, drink a beer, buy a boat

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

That's why you should go to Honda, where sale reps and managers can be on one Accord

3 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 1

Let's Avalon discussion to work out our differences.

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

I don't Sienna other way

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It's a shame Tacom-all this way and just throw it away

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

They are going to all have to C-HR, or someone is going to have to sue, probably

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Supra

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Ugh, sales jobs are the worst. Last sales job I had, a co-worker accused me of stealing his sale (which I didn’t). He was easily 50 lbs heavier than me and half a foot taller too. He came at me screaming in my face so I pushed him back on his ass to protect myself. I got fired on the spot and he got a promotion. Fuck sales.

3 years ago | Likes 49 Dislikes 3

weird way to say "I was fired for physically attacking my coworker".

3 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 71

If you run up to someone screaming inn their face you are the once who has committed assault.

3 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

yeah thats just not how real life works, hence him being fired. you being upset at someone yelling at you doesn't give you the option to assault them. you can call yelling assault but it's just not.

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

*- .... in self defence.

3 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

"his words hurt me so I had to hit him"

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Someone bigger than you (actually anyone) comes screaming in your face, you have every right to push them back.

3 years ago | Likes 29 Dislikes 6

thats just actually not true legally anywhere. if you make it physical you started it.

3 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 44

Actually the legality would lay in the mannerisms. If the aggressor was pushing into your space and making any level of contact (forehead to forehead is common) you are free to defend yourself. Also if you have no retreat behind you, then you are free to defend if they are behaving aggressively. Faux charges are the aggressor's trigger. It is called assault, and I suggest you read up on the difference between assault and battery.

3 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 2

you're just making shit up that even the person telling the story from their POV that is obviously biased didn't include to try to justify it. if someone is yelling at you and you hit them, you're the problem.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 32

yes legally, if they fear their life was in danger.

3 years ago | Likes 26 Dislikes 2

lol he blocked me

3 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 1

lol a coworker yelling at you. "MY LIFE WAS IN DANGER"

3 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 25

Toyota are very strict & extremely brand conscious. I reckon it's bye bye Franchise!!

3 years ago | Likes 42 Dislikes 1

You're thinking Lexus, only like 300 dealers allowed in US at any given time, with decades long wait lists. Toyota DGAF. At the Toyota dealer across the street from my work, apparently the finance manager got naked and stared attacking other employees, they had to lock her in an office until police showed up. Happened last month.

3 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

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The head of that dealership was definitely removed.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Real question. Does anybody here know the story behind this?

3 years ago | Likes 23 Dislikes 0

My bet it was someone was working with a customer and that customer just walked in the next day and bought a car from another sales person instead and he was asking for his cut of the commission.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Real answer: No.

3 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

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3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

No. Although looking real close, the guy with the slightly lavender shirt was mixing it up in the distant shot, throwing punches, then abruptly backs off and tries to hold up hands and looks innocent before getting punched. I don't know what happened, but something about that guy vibes badly.

3 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Safe assumption: lack of education and poor breeding led to atavistic violence in place of verbal communication.

3 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 2

Bullshit. This was the direct result of an unauthorized and unsupervised Toyotathon.

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

+1 for making me look up 'atavistic.'

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

What the fuck does poor breeding mean these days

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

There's one rule in Fight Club

3 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

Keep your head on a swivel?

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You always push for the undercoating

3 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

I used to work for a Chevy dealership... fucking worst job ever. The first two months my manager counted all my sales as his, getting the commission for them, because he was still "training and guiding me." Dude spent like all of 45 minutes a day (10 hour day) with me. I put my key on his desk and walked out.

3 years ago | Likes 632 Dislikes 0

Had the same thing. Only job I have left screaming fuck you at the top of my lungs flipping everyone off.

3 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Should have put your key in his skull.

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Two weeks here, hired as “customer service” and told to lie to prospects to get them in the door so the methed-up Ford sales team could take turns fucking ‘em. I wouldn’t do it, so the owner threatened to sue me for embezzlement and I walked.

3 years ago | Likes 31 Dislikes 0

Car business is full of toxic jocks. Friend of mine is a mechatronics engineer. He's often pointed out how nasty that field is. Full of sexism, racism, homophobia and other reactionary garbage. Sure, there are exceptions amongst those people, but what do you expect when the product is the epitome of narcissism, compensation & environmental destruction?

3 years ago | Likes 48 Dislikes 2

Thought provoking.

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

That was a shitty manager. When I sold cars, the manager just helped with the customer when I got them in the door. I kept all commissions. But I can definitely understand a sales rep and manager getting into a fight. Some of those guys on both sides can be assholes.

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It was the opposite when I worked sales, managers would gift newbies sales so they would get the taste. It worked well.

3 years ago | Likes 28 Dislikes 0

Same thing happened to my fiance when she worked at a jeweller. The assistant manager got involved with nearly every customer she was helping. He either took credit or completely torpedoed any sale she was working on. The worst one was $3k custom ring she worked on for an elderly woman for a week or two....then the guy got involved by saying they couldn't do the ring they wanted, and they needed to pay more for something else. Customer left cause he was berating them to buy it.

3 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Fiance gave her notice and quit that week

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I asked a guy a question about something in the paperwork, so he ended up getting half of my commission.

3 years ago | Likes 29 Dislikes 1

Random guy?

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Random salesman. My boss used to get mad when I’d ask other managers questions, because I couldn’t find him. He was at the bar next door most of the time, turns out. I was only there for two months, and I only ever met one person who was actually pretty decent. Except when he fucked the (married) finance manager to get revenge on his cheating girlfriend.

3 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Yup. Worked at the car rental place in a few dealers. The Chevy one was horrible. Nearly everyone that worked there was a total asshole.

3 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 0

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3 years ago (deleted Apr 22, 2023 9:04 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

There are no meaningful penalties for wage theft, so what would you have done?

3 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Not sure why you got downvoted...

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 35

Because he is blaming the 20 year old kid for being taken advantage of.

3 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Because of how he said it.

3 years ago | Likes 30 Dislikes 1

There’s a car dealership near where I live in a city type neighborhood (Culver City, CA), whenever I walk past it, I can see all the salesmen standing, waiting to pounce on anyone that walks up. They always look like the skeeviest of losers this planet has to offer. The cheesy clothing. The fake Rolexes. It’s tough to even watch. This video doesn’t surprise me.

3 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

Fun note; a lot of statutes on things technically start at the time you discover you were legally wronged, so check into the laws. Pretty sure that wouldn't even legally have been something permitted in a contract (no more than an employer putting it in a contract that they can take all tips).

3 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Or…you know…write off the few hundred bucks and cut toxic people out of your life. Why would you engage in a long-term lawsuit and make yourself miserable…for money?

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

Few hundred bucks? I feel like you grossly underestimate how much reps make on sale commissions. Also something like that would generally be handled probably in small-claims depending on the total, which isn't all that long-term normally other than the wait for an actual court date.

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

So basically the same thing as researchers and their postdocs.

3 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 2

My sister is in academia. Chat gpt writes better research than most of these clowns. That's why they are foot notes

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 11

Personally know a researcher. Her postdocs get first name on their research papers. She works very hard to help them get published, into competitions so that they get recognition, and good jobs later. Like most situations, not everybody in a group is bad,

3 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

The first name is also a typical requirement to complete a masters or PhD. Very important, your friend is doing it correctly.

3 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

And heaven forbid you have to continue a project somebody was half lying about. When you refuse to inflate/lie about results the PI says, well they did this why can't you? Cause I refuse to add 10% to all my yields amongst other things.

3 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

"well they did this why can't you?" "because they have the scientific integrity of Andrew Wakefield."

3 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Was that in your contract? Because if it wasn't I would have also considered a lawsuit.

3 years ago | Likes 259 Dislikes 1

Lawsuit is for those with the experience, and usually the money, to get a lawyer.

3 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

A contract in the car business you have to be joking.

3 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 1

No contract, no work. US workers never finished their labour revolution, though, so now you get dipshits saying dumb shit like "you have to be joking", at the mention of contracts. Get back to it. Break kneecaps and burn shit until you get the rights you deserve, that is how workers in Europe got their rights. You have to scare the oligarchs.

3 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

I probably should've, but I was 20 and an idiot so...

3 years ago | Likes 201 Dislikes 2

Yeah no, HE was clearly the idiot in this.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

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3 years ago | Likes 52 Dislikes 0

There’s no statute of limitations on civil suits…

3 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I imagine that all relevant data has probably been expunged or they could do it now and make it seem plausible, because they're clearly pieces of shit and not beyond such fuckery.

3 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

You walked out so not that much of an idiot.

3 years ago | Likes 42 Dislikes 0

For real. Defeating your oppressor is great, but still robs you of your energy. True freedom comes from learning to drop your shackles and walk away.

3 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Kindest thing I've heard all day.

3 years ago | Likes 23 Dislikes 0

That’s just how dealerships work. They have very fucked up laws that allow for that kind of shit. Some people go into debt being car salesmen. It’s like those insurance companies where you have to pay for your leads. It’s really fucked up.

3 years ago | Likes 81 Dislikes 1

Jesus. Don't Americans negotiate a fucking contract, even when they take a SALES job?! Because this sure as shit is not how dealerships work, it is another bizarre American thing.

3 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

There are lots of laws for dealerships that are real fucked up. Especially by state, county and even city. It gets real messed up. The auto industry is very powerful. Hell they made jaywalking a crime to take the blame off of vehicles.

3 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

But surely, a contract will still shield the employee. A contract they read and approve of prior to signing, obviously. Right?

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Dealerships just boggle my mind.

3 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

or they try to trick college kids into handing over their contacts knowing they will never stick around. I smelled that scam and bailed in the interview

3 years ago | Likes 29 Dislikes 0

What do you mean as handing over contacts? Like actual phone contacts that would not be interested in buying a car?

3 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

mining your personal contacts to sell insurance to which is a step above cold calling

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I applied for a car sales job as a young and dumb 19yo and yep, that is *exactly* what they wanted. All the people I knew, friends, relatives, old employers and coworkers, etc. 'you need to build your own customer base!' bro I'm selling a product most people don't buy more than twice a decade, if even that. I'm not about to harass people I liked enough to keep the number of to do that.

3 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

There's a dealership in town where the sales guys are all salary. It was so nice.

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

The new Toyota Highlander: There can be only one

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3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Ok now that was funny. :)

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A Beverly hills ninja updoot!?! Holy balls! Definitely yoinking this. Thanks!! Take your +1.

3 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Clever!

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HEEEEERE WE AAAARE, BOOORN TO BE KINGS!

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We are not worthy of this greatness. +1

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Is this a kind of magic?

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Ain't nobody topping that

3 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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3 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Comedy at it's finest.

3 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Beauty

3 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

This is a comment that should have 10,000 upvotes.

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