Jan 13, 2020 6:13 PM
wazscience
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slinkiisu
GTA MOTHAFUCKA
Skipadedodah
Know a guy that flys drones along the edge of fires to get GPS coordinates to guide them in and check if they hit targets.
TigerThong
how long does it take to fill it up?
wadenelson1
Looks to me like he overshot his mark.
Evercrimson
That feeling in your piloting stomach when he comes around the corner and drops out of the sky, is the worst fucking feeling.
LilTrashGoblin
Gender Reveal things are getting crazy. Also, how do I get the ability to just post? I can only use their pre-made gifs, then comment on it.
Bregfret
Internet! I'd have the copilot on the throttles and I'd be handling the stick. There's no time to lag a half second
DarkRedCape
I’ve always wondered how effective this is. From shots like this it seems like putting a plaster on a lost limb. Does it actually work?
Akalenedat
Depends on the intensity. Smaller brush fires/fresh starts? Over and done. Big wildfires driven by wind? Only slows them down a little.
battlesnake3000
Anyone know what the red stuff is for?
leroy666
Fire retardant, more efficient and effective than water alone.
FairfaxJack
Utah? Montana?
MoreButterForMyHam
California, near the Reagan Library
SkunkyP
Very satisfying.
baconflavoredpencil
He flew through a flock of babies.
johndoehastheupperhand
I watched this plane dump retardant in Malibu. It came SOARING up from behind a ridge. The pink line is still on the hill. Saved our home.
yaboiskinnypeen
See how the plane struggled back up? That's because his giant balls are heavy.
hamburgerous
I like how the child plane does a tiny toot and the father has to assert dominance with an absolute trouser ripper.
YouGotaGoDowntownTogetUptown
Best comment I’ve read in days cheers
nerdycatt
1.) I call them toots with my kiddo! 2.)"Trouser ripper" is the best term ever. British?
LanceCorporalBadger
So... they are painting the ground red so the fire thinks it’s already burning and goes somewhere else?
healover
This.
Eleshar24
Yes.
Fairdinkums
Don't forget that in Australia the labor party wanted to build a fleet of these and the libs squandered the idea
BaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaBATMAN
It's so confusing that the Australian libs are the right wing party.
Saxxon92
Yeah I didn't understand that until I was in my early 20s
IamTOOOLDforThisShite
These gender reveal stunts are getting out of hand ... !
gishey
Whoop whoop. Terrain. Terrain. Whoop whoop
rickchurianmortydate
You forgot "pull up"
kbing
We don't have a large plane that can carry fire retardant mixture for fire, we have a nice plane to carry our retarded PM.
usafsmith8408
Working on that exact airplane right now at work... 10 tanker is the name of the company
godisdeadandnoonecares
First plane farts to mark it?
ArtIsMedicine
Yes, this is the comment I was looking for.
Iamlordofspuds
Wind check fart
CaspianQuix
That's retardant.
bhobby1212
More specifically that's a lot of retardant
goste
Rartent
TheWhiteBarry
Relax scro! Plenty of tards leading really kick-ass lives out there. My first wife was tarded, she's a pilot now
ThePolisherOfTurds
Never go full retardant
ProbablyDrunkAgain
No u
FaptasticFingers
13 replies awesome. This is going to be a fun read.
xXMaStaMouSeXx
ButterfaceTaintClown
it's retardant that they completely missed the continent of Australia.
alvinthatsme
*chem trails
wackyusername
When the moon hits your eye like a big pizza pie...
wuzz
ImANurse
What was the first plane's little fart?
SeeTheNumbersTasteTheViolence
Marker. To tell the big plane when to start laying down the retardant
Melonfish
They prefer the term "aquatically challenged"
Gestalt7
I believe you mean "combustibility challenged"
OsteoArch
Yeah, don't be hydrophobic!
thescarby
I just will never understand how that plane can generate enough lift for the pilot’s giant balls of steel.
ThailandExpress
v
rumandbass
-________________-
LiteralVampirePotBellyGoblins
The72ndRaven
Mmmmmmmmmmotherfucker!!!
GriffinMann41
Wish I could find my own copy of someone who has an on-land view of one of these events. That plane *touches* trees as it scrapes ground
rvisual01
Thaat was close.
UrKungFuNoGood
he appears to clear that ridge by fewer than 100 feet
LuminousExpanse
i live in teh foothilsl of LA and watch these guys do this stuff every once in a while. fucking amazing to see
the foothills* (facken typoes)
CMDRKORR
terrain terrain pull up pull up
CapitalNick
*whoop whoop*
DragothMP5
“Shut the fuck up betty!”
"Was the last dialog recorded on the black box" -FAA
AnythingMuchShorter
So I looked it up and these carry about 10800 gallons or 75 tons of retardant, and the plane weighs about 135 tons empty. Imagine flying
an aircraft that drops it's weight by 1/3 over the course of 10 seconds while you're flying it.
JellybellyBushroot
Like after using an enema, yes.
DieselSJ
They count on that. If the load doesn't drop, they eat mountain.
It probably also has the complicated aspect of gaining a lot of speed from the steep drop. One book I read about bombing runs during WWII,
it mentioned that when dive bombing you can reach speeds much higher than the plane ever could under it's own power flying level, it takes
soupermarionation
A pilot plane too? Man that must be expensive.
In 2015 it cost $41,000 per day for the June 15 to October 15 fire season; there was an additional US$5,500 per-flight-hour charge.
so is a load of retardant
Hashbrowncasserole
Usually, there's so much smoke that they need a small nimble plane to ensure its a safe drop
ChloeRed
Plus the DC-10 has to have quite a nose up angle, you need someone to help you know when to drop, as you can't see very well like that!
IMayOrMayNotHaveTroubleFindingAndOrChoosingAUsername
While that may well be true, as far as I've read, it's to improve aim because pilots can't see down very well from the big plane.
ich0kemyselftosleep
Is that a DC-10? I thought they were sent to the great beyond.
Drewscifer
I want to see a side by side comparison between a DC 10 doing that and a converted B-52.
DangerRNGR
With no replacement on the horizon, B-52's will never be surplussed. Unflightworthy airframes are too valuable as a source of parts.
:) I loved this story when it came out https://taskandpurpose.com/b52-bomber-wise-guy-boneyard
verticalbaconsandwich
We still use them in NZ, they generally fly out to places like the Chatham Islands etc.
InsincereSam
I know shit all about planes but that's exactly what I thought!
Entari0
It is. DC-10's and MD-11's are also still used for cargo by UPS, FedEx, and the like.
glenlochie
what happened to the 727s?
Largely phased out and replaced with other, more efficient, narrow body airliners. Some are still in service as charters.
Arthurtwoshedsjackson
Nope, the air Force still uses them. They're new tanker got recalled so it'll be online for years to come
Obsideonstar
I don't think they're capable of space flight /s
JonSAlberta
Only with Travolta as the pilot.
Kayback
They survived and now, importantly, are cheap and relatively easy to convert.
XanZi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GJ7eueZ1wY
Konoton
"♪♪♫No he Survived♫♪♪"
What happened to him?
nicktongeis9000
That is!
ItsReallyNotThatDifficult
MD-11F
dasoffendor
converted passenger jets. apparently they're really well suited for this role as well.
bobtheaxolotl
I don't think they're made anymore, but they're still in use. Last time I flew, a decade ago, was on one of them.
They're commonly used for firefighting, as shown in the post, and the military uses a modified version for in-flight refueling.
SoooooOriginal
Maybe this is the great beyond?
rickeyspanish
im just wondering what that little plane pooted out.
Probably just basic airshow smoke. Being a turboprop it probably had a smoke generator. To show the tablet where to drop.
Tanker not tablet
Blikksem
Nope. Good wide body for cargo. After some passenger crashes nobody wanted to fly them. I think it was actually wind shear responsible tho.
I'm an fe on the kc-10 and from what I've seen there are still some dc10 left for firefighting, as well as some cargo companies.
divingin
FedEx and UPS both operate a fair number of DC-10/MD-11's.
There are still commercial DC-10s, even.
HideousMonkeyCrap
I still see them being flown by FedEx as freighters.
5 converted from what I can find.
onthe6ball
there are still 707 variants flying.
impaledskier
Government?
cyberspork
DC-10s are amazing planes, they got a bad rap
SidneyHarbor
Well... they weren't perfect. They've worked the bugs out over the years, but it wasn't a perfect plane at launch.
IVerifyPeoplesUsernames
That might be an MD-11. Longer fuselage and lower vertical stabilizer, but I can't be sure.
Knobby
No, it’s a DC10, it has no winglets.
That's what I went with. Conceivable they removed the winglets for some low level performance that's more important than increased range at>
Altitude but it also looks more DC-10y than MD-11y.
Possible.
AzzMort
what kind of pilots do they hire for these flights, Military pilots or commercial airline pilots ?
shayke7
/a/HbLvhVd
SecugenHamster
My Brother-n-law used to fly for Emery Worldwide. They gave him a leave of absence each year to fly for the Forest service in Cali.
benreich
Remember Independence Day?
Maungroas
Dunno. I’m sure John Goodman and Richard Dreyfuss will always know tho
fedoraeuphoria
I looked into it a bit and CalFire uses a pilot agency and that agency says they’ll look into anyone with proper certs but prefer military
MrRidiculous
The Russell Casse type
Pyrolime
Friend of my dad does that sort of thing (smaller planes though) and he's just a crop duster as far as I know
ztxdk
Florida man!
DerkatBaron
His cousin Kansas man
Cheeseyfunkymonkey
Member of a MAFFS unit here. Most are Air Force pilots from Cargo or Tanker units. There are several Air Force units that do this every year
turdferguson74
You guys stay at our tanker base here at the NIFC in Boise all the time!
And we just strung fiber out to the tanker base this season, so you all can have 16gig connections!
mikeatike
Yes
ErectileFunction
.
heredevongoes
Air attack pilots are typically standard commercial pilots.
CaffeineManic
From what I've heard, almost all commercial pilots are ex-military. I'd prefer ex-military on any plane I was in.
Adnanklink
Yep. Flight time for training is expensive and you any flying you do in the military counts; it has a lower barrier of entry that way.
From what I've heard, "almost all" is certainly an exaggeration. I'd prefer a pilot with as many hours as possible in the planetype I was in
The airlines turned their opinions on that several decades ago now. They don't like military pilots because of the retraining necessary.
warmyourbeans
No previous experience required. They just hire insane people.
Jburli24
But planes are expensive!
ProcyonGhost
For CL415 in Quebec they want 2500 hours with 1000 hours with floatplanes
OtterlyMagnificent
Good to know. Do those floatplane hours have to be a monohull, or can it be in a bush plane with pontoons?
It's not specified so I guess both are ok but it's 1000 PIC
PIC?
Pilot In Command
slinkiisu
GTA MOTHAFUCKA
Skipadedodah
Know a guy that flys drones along the edge of fires to get GPS coordinates to guide them in and check if they hit targets.
TigerThong
how long does it take to fill it up?
wadenelson1
Looks to me like he overshot his mark.
Evercrimson
That feeling in your piloting stomach when he comes around the corner and drops out of the sky, is the worst fucking feeling.
LilTrashGoblin
LilTrashGoblin
Gender Reveal things are getting crazy. Also, how do I get the ability to just post? I can only use their pre-made gifs, then comment on it.
Bregfret
Internet! I'd have the copilot on the throttles and I'd be handling the stick. There's no time to lag a half second
DarkRedCape
I’ve always wondered how effective this is. From shots like this it seems like putting a plaster on a lost limb. Does it actually work?
Akalenedat
Depends on the intensity. Smaller brush fires/fresh starts? Over and done. Big wildfires driven by wind? Only slows them down a little.
battlesnake3000
Anyone know what the red stuff is for?
leroy666
Fire retardant, more efficient and effective than water alone.
FairfaxJack
Utah? Montana?
MoreButterForMyHam
California, near the Reagan Library
SkunkyP
Very satisfying.
baconflavoredpencil
He flew through a flock of babies.
johndoehastheupperhand
I watched this plane dump retardant in Malibu. It came SOARING up from behind a ridge. The pink line is still on the hill. Saved our home.
yaboiskinnypeen
See how the plane struggled back up? That's because his giant balls are heavy.
hamburgerous
I like how the child plane does a tiny toot and the father has to assert dominance with an absolute trouser ripper.
YouGotaGoDowntownTogetUptown
Best comment I’ve read in days cheers
nerdycatt
1.) I call them toots with my kiddo! 2.)"Trouser ripper" is the best term ever. British?
LanceCorporalBadger
So... they are painting the ground red so the fire thinks it’s already burning and goes somewhere else?
healover
This.
Eleshar24
Yes.
Fairdinkums
Don't forget that in Australia the labor party wanted to build a fleet of these and the libs squandered the idea
BaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaBATMAN
It's so confusing that the Australian libs are the right wing party.
Saxxon92
Yeah I didn't understand that until I was in my early 20s
IamTOOOLDforThisShite
These gender reveal stunts are getting out of hand ... !
gishey
Whoop whoop. Terrain. Terrain. Whoop whoop
rickchurianmortydate
You forgot "pull up"
kbing
We don't have a large plane that can carry fire retardant mixture for fire, we have a nice plane to carry our retarded PM.
usafsmith8408
Working on that exact airplane right now at work... 10 tanker is the name of the company
usafsmith8408
godisdeadandnoonecares
First plane farts to mark it?
ArtIsMedicine
Yes, this is the comment I was looking for.
Iamlordofspuds
Wind check fart
CaspianQuix
That's retardant.
bhobby1212
More specifically that's a lot of retardant
goste
Rartent
TheWhiteBarry
Relax scro! Plenty of tards leading really kick-ass lives out there. My first wife was tarded, she's a pilot now
ThePolisherOfTurds
Never go full retardant
ProbablyDrunkAgain
No u
FaptasticFingers
13 replies awesome. This is going to be a fun read.
xXMaStaMouSeXx
ButterfaceTaintClown
it's retardant that they completely missed the continent of Australia.
alvinthatsme
*chem trails
wackyusername
When the moon hits your eye like a big pizza pie...
wuzz
ImANurse
What was the first plane's little fart?
SeeTheNumbersTasteTheViolence
Marker. To tell the big plane when to start laying down the retardant
Melonfish
They prefer the term "aquatically challenged"
Gestalt7
I believe you mean "combustibility challenged"
OsteoArch
Yeah, don't be hydrophobic!
thescarby
I just will never understand how that plane can generate enough lift for the pilot’s giant balls of steel.
ThailandExpress
rumandbass
-________________-
LiteralVampirePotBellyGoblins
The72ndRaven
Mmmmmmmmmmotherfucker!!!
GriffinMann41
Wish I could find my own copy of someone who has an on-land view of one of these events. That plane *touches* trees as it scrapes ground
rvisual01
Thaat was close.
UrKungFuNoGood
he appears to clear that ridge by fewer than 100 feet
LuminousExpanse
i live in teh foothilsl of LA and watch these guys do this stuff every once in a while. fucking amazing to see
LuminousExpanse
the foothills* (facken typoes)
CMDRKORR
terrain terrain pull up pull up
CapitalNick
*whoop whoop*
DragothMP5
“Shut the fuck up betty!”
CMDRKORR
"Was the last dialog recorded on the black box" -FAA
AnythingMuchShorter
So I looked it up and these carry about 10800 gallons or 75 tons of retardant, and the plane weighs about 135 tons empty. Imagine flying
AnythingMuchShorter
an aircraft that drops it's weight by 1/3 over the course of 10 seconds while you're flying it.
JellybellyBushroot
Like after using an enema, yes.
DieselSJ
They count on that. If the load doesn't drop, they eat mountain.
AnythingMuchShorter
It probably also has the complicated aspect of gaining a lot of speed from the steep drop. One book I read about bombing runs during WWII,
AnythingMuchShorter
it mentioned that when dive bombing you can reach speeds much higher than the plane ever could under it's own power flying level, it takes
soupermarionation
A pilot plane too? Man that must be expensive.
Evercrimson
In 2015 it cost $41,000 per day for the June 15 to October 15 fire season; there was an additional US$5,500 per-flight-hour charge.
CMDRKORR
so is a load of retardant
Hashbrowncasserole
Usually, there's so much smoke that they need a small nimble plane to ensure its a safe drop
ChloeRed
Plus the DC-10 has to have quite a nose up angle, you need someone to help you know when to drop, as you can't see very well like that!
IMayOrMayNotHaveTroubleFindingAndOrChoosingAUsername
While that may well be true, as far as I've read, it's to improve aim because pilots can't see down very well from the big plane.
ich0kemyselftosleep
Is that a DC-10? I thought they were sent to the great beyond.
Drewscifer
I want to see a side by side comparison between a DC 10 doing that and a converted B-52.
DangerRNGR
With no replacement on the horizon, B-52's will never be surplussed. Unflightworthy airframes are too valuable as a source of parts.
Drewscifer
:) I loved this story when it came out https://taskandpurpose.com/b52-bomber-wise-guy-boneyard
verticalbaconsandwich
We still use them in NZ, they generally fly out to places like the Chatham Islands etc.
InsincereSam
I know shit all about planes but that's exactly what I thought!
Entari0
It is. DC-10's and MD-11's are also still used for cargo by UPS, FedEx, and the like.
glenlochie
what happened to the 727s?
Entari0
Largely phased out and replaced with other, more efficient, narrow body airliners. Some are still in service as charters.
Arthurtwoshedsjackson
Nope, the air Force still uses them. They're new tanker got recalled so it'll be online for years to come
Obsideonstar
I don't think they're capable of space flight /s
JonSAlberta
Only with Travolta as the pilot.
Kayback
They survived and now, importantly, are cheap and relatively easy to convert.
XanZi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GJ7eueZ1wY
Konoton
"♪♪♫No he Survived♫♪♪"
XanZi
What happened to him?
nicktongeis9000
That is!
ItsReallyNotThatDifficult
MD-11F
dasoffendor
converted passenger jets. apparently they're really well suited for this role as well.
bobtheaxolotl
I don't think they're made anymore, but they're still in use. Last time I flew, a decade ago, was on one of them.
bobtheaxolotl
They're commonly used for firefighting, as shown in the post, and the military uses a modified version for in-flight refueling.
SoooooOriginal
Maybe this is the great beyond?
rickeyspanish
im just wondering what that little plane pooted out.
Kayback
Probably just basic airshow smoke. Being a turboprop it probably had a smoke generator. To show the tablet where to drop.
Kayback
Tanker not tablet
Blikksem
Nope. Good wide body for cargo. After some passenger crashes nobody wanted to fly them. I think it was actually wind shear responsible tho.
Iamlordofspuds
I'm an fe on the kc-10 and from what I've seen there are still some dc10 left for firefighting, as well as some cargo companies.
divingin
FedEx and UPS both operate a fair number of DC-10/MD-11's.
bobtheaxolotl
There are still commercial DC-10s, even.
HideousMonkeyCrap
I still see them being flown by FedEx as freighters.
ChloeRed
5 converted from what I can find.
onthe6ball
there are still 707 variants flying.
impaledskier
Government?
cyberspork
DC-10s are amazing planes, they got a bad rap
SidneyHarbor
Well... they weren't perfect. They've worked the bugs out over the years, but it wasn't a perfect plane at launch.
IVerifyPeoplesUsernames
That might be an MD-11. Longer fuselage and lower vertical stabilizer, but I can't be sure.
Knobby
No, it’s a DC10, it has no winglets.
Kayback
That's what I went with. Conceivable they removed the winglets for some low level performance that's more important than increased range at>
Kayback
Altitude but it also looks more DC-10y than MD-11y.
Knobby
Possible.
AzzMort
what kind of pilots do they hire for these flights, Military pilots or commercial airline pilots ?
shayke7
/a/HbLvhVd
SecugenHamster
My Brother-n-law used to fly for Emery Worldwide. They gave him a leave of absence each year to fly for the Forest service in Cali.
benreich
Remember Independence Day?
Maungroas
Dunno. I’m sure John Goodman and Richard Dreyfuss will always know tho
fedoraeuphoria
I looked into it a bit and CalFire uses a pilot agency and that agency says they’ll look into anyone with proper certs but prefer military
MrRidiculous
The Russell Casse type
Pyrolime
Friend of my dad does that sort of thing (smaller planes though) and he's just a crop duster as far as I know
ztxdk
Florida man!
DerkatBaron
His cousin Kansas man
Cheeseyfunkymonkey
Member of a MAFFS unit here. Most are Air Force pilots from Cargo or Tanker units. There are several Air Force units that do this every year
turdferguson74
You guys stay at our tanker base here at the NIFC in Boise all the time!
turdferguson74
And we just strung fiber out to the tanker base this season, so you all can have 16gig connections!
mikeatike
Yes
ErectileFunction
.
heredevongoes
Air attack pilots are typically standard commercial pilots.
CaffeineManic
From what I've heard, almost all commercial pilots are ex-military. I'd prefer ex-military on any plane I was in.
Adnanklink
Yep. Flight time for training is expensive and you any flying you do in the military counts; it has a lower barrier of entry that way.
IMayOrMayNotHaveTroubleFindingAndOrChoosingAUsername
From what I've heard, "almost all" is certainly an exaggeration. I'd prefer a pilot with as many hours as possible in the planetype I was in
Evercrimson
The airlines turned their opinions on that several decades ago now. They don't like military pilots because of the retraining necessary.
warmyourbeans
No previous experience required. They just hire insane people.
Jburli24
But planes are expensive!
ProcyonGhost
For CL415 in Quebec they want 2500 hours with 1000 hours with floatplanes
OtterlyMagnificent
Good to know. Do those floatplane hours have to be a monohull, or can it be in a bush plane with pontoons?
ProcyonGhost
It's not specified so I guess both are ok but it's 1000 PIC
OtterlyMagnificent
PIC?
ProcyonGhost
Pilot In Command