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BannedByMods
Not convicted? Equality at it's finest, if the case we're reversed the guy would be in prison and his life would be ruined.
Irishda
Oh good. There haven't been enough of these today
Rifneno
Well what do you expect, losersub to do even a fraction of the job it circlejerks about doing & filter for the FP? Madness, I say. MADNESS!
ImbetterthanOKImHomerSimpson
youcancallmesusanifitmakesyouhappy
TheHorseShesElbowDeepIn
Not to be pedantic, but isn't that kinda describing what rape is anyway?
mandaH87
Rape culture at its finest.
Snotty128
Even the same front page of this NZ news source has two different definitions /a/qEQF7wP
SirBlades
Pretty sure the Imgur community already got it the first time. Now you're just being a point whore.
PrefectDreyfus
"imgur community" lol If this was a "community" it could be best compared to Mogadishu or perhaps the Gaza Strip.
SirBlades
I'm using it very loosely. Thanks for your input
spict
Verbal red circles.
Loctagge
I rarely see outage with rape stories on imgur. Considering how often men rape women, one might think there'd be more.
DrakeRamorayMD
What a wonderful world we live in
EvilDeadTed
rugmiem
I wanna go live to Mars
UncleIrohnman
Can i come too? I'll bring my sweet snes and some yahoos
patotheduck
I'll bring a few buckets of air.
BoomIgotyourwalletBoomIgotyourphilliestickets
No way, Jose.
BleachedPP
haaaaaaa
rugmiem
Ok, that was funny
Akxvc
Shut up
DeTobiasch
LegendarySkulls
Woman uses machete to ex-boyfriend rape. A woman used a machete to force her ex-boyfriend to strip naked and rape him
therealzerobot
Waaahmbulance
***Allegedly.*** Innocent until proven guilty.
MegaDiogenes
WE KNOW YOU FUCKING BANDWAGONING CUNT.
PeculiarBaguette
GoldFrieza
You do realize how it can be confusing to say she "used the machete to rape him"?
Haemaelaeinen
Could've happened tho. Like Soviet women soldiers did to prisoners (well, maybe not machete). Gnarly stuff, that.
MistressLyda
"She raped him while threatening him with a machete"/"she used a machete to threaten him during the rape" or something along those lines.
MistressLyda
Probably not 100 % right, grammar is not my strongest suit.
idownvoteplottwist
raped him at knifepoint
xyrax
The english language is malleable. They could re-word it just fine... this would not have been a difficult thing to do. Jesus Christ...
Rosie2003
Jesus Christ, we fucking get it. Does this have to make FP 10 times every goddamn day?
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Loser37
I guess it’s lucky for women that Brock Turner is the only rapist in human history. Can you imagine if there *multiple* rapists out there?
Ravenseeker
inzane
I never see these pictures when the story is the other way around, instead I see a bunch of virtue signalling white knights.
AVeryVeryVeryVeryVeryVeryVeryLostDragon
Woman here. Anyone that denies such a thing is rape is a terrible person. I promise we're not all insane and truly want to fight any assault
MyCatIsCalledWinston
Man here. i believe she would make a great adult film actress.
alwaysscarlet
I hate that some people here are saying this has just become a circle jerk like, it's people like them that's making this issue hard for vic
kaltguzman
Good for you, I appreciate the sanity.
AVeryVeryVeryVeryVeryVeryVeryLostDragon
I feel like the peeps downvoting us are in fact the insane to be honest.
shadowex3
Now heres the part where i point out, yknow, ALL of feminism.
andaberrant
Pssst, come closer and I'll tell you a secret. We all know it was rape you can stop shitposting the circlejerk porn now.
PeculiarBaguette
ElioAuditore
I mean, do we? Read some of the comments.
jennym123
Reposting this picture isn't going to change those peoples minds. This has turned into a circle jerk.
HOOMANGUY
The 2 things to make instant frontpage: saying that men can be raped, and exposing women with false rape accusations.
FramFramson
Man Bites Dog.
kaltguzman
Because both are uncommon.
BrockEffingSamson
Or, y'know, rampant misogyny.
shadowex3
If this is your idea of misogyny then you're a misandrist.
BrockEffingSamson
By far, most rapists are men, and most victims women. If you only read imgur, you'd think the opposite.
shadowex3
Only becuase the definition of "rape" and things like this.
LastoftheLillyCreatures
not on this site. Not compared to (posted) cases with female victims.
Sykopomp
Uncommon irl. Obviously. Not everything is about the fucking internet. Go outside.
kylania
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/violent-crime/rape Only if it's butt stuff or her vagina in his mouth.
HPCmonkey
It's different from state to state. Some have defined rape as forceful penetration with a penis.
kylania
That's even worse... :/ What she did was clearly rape.
HPCmonkey
Oh it was definitely some manner of forceful non-consensual intercourse. It just may not have been legally considered rape.
DahPrincess
It's not legally considered rape, but in every other way it IS rape. Forcing someone to have sex against their will is rape. The legal >
DahPrincess
-system just hasn't caught up with the times yet.
Jollyphoenix
To all the people saying she "wasnt charged" with rape. Brock turner was not convicted of rape but journalists and society call him a rapist
SomeCrazyNerd
She was charged with assault.
PardusXY
The issue is “society at large” doesn’t treat the two rapes equally, Brock was about conviction, this is about acknowledgement.
kaltguzman
Case and point.
AVoiceOfReason
I'll probably get massive hatred for this, but I think crimes differ in severity. Brock fingered a girl. If people sweep this under a (1)
AVoiceOfReason
single, arching category that also includes fucking someone, then how do they get more time/punishment to someone who uses their penis (2)
AVoiceOfReason
on someone who's unconscious? The latter is worse, causing pregnancy or diseases. It's also a larger foreign object. I would consider (3)
AVoiceOfReason
this a worse crime the same way I'd consider assault with a deadly weapon to be worse than just assault.
Ripplingtwinkie
Double standard at its finest
cyrusjoneslivedforever
I don't think it's a double standard at all. Similar language is used in the other instance. This is a bigger issue
Cymland
If you look at other publications female writers are calling it rape & questioning why she isn't facing rape charges.
Sandpussy
Well I’m glad to hear someone is... any links to what you’re referring to?
Cymland
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2018/jun/27/montana-woman-with-machete-hides-behind-ex-boyfrie/ Another link in reply
Cymland
https://madamenoire.com/1030997/doesnt-this-sound-like-rape-woman-uses-machete-to-force-ex-into-sex-but-isnt-charged-for-it/
Cymland
https://wreg.com/2018/06/28/woman-wielding-machete-forced-ex-to-have-sex-police-say/ This one tagged as rape
aleister94
i dont see how the news often uses softer terms when describing rape even when he genders are swapped
kaltguzman
I think its absolutley absurd people can defend saying its not rape. Be honest with yourself forced sex is rape end of story.
VioletMoonRising
Errr.... let's be honest. If they actually said rape, everyone would be thinking she used a machete in his anus. Stop being so offended.
TheNarwhalicornsDick
“Stop being so offended” is hilarious to read on a site like imgur, where pride is found in being “rational” when faced with controversy
PeteButtigieg
I think unless charged and convicted they can't say rape. It would have to be "allegedly"
NotEven0nce
So it's *rape* once its *proven* in the court of law for women? Yet a woman can cry wolf and its *rape* headlines with his picture attached.
PeteButtigieg
If he were to have filed charges of rape then the news source could have said raped. It has nothing to do with being a man or woman.
BannedByMods
Pretty much. What's equality?
Loctagge
The vast majority of rapists don't get convicted.
curmudgeon91
Most women screw themselves by wanting to get clean after. :( No kit, no evidence, hard case. Hell, most women don't even go to cops :(
curmudgeon91
Men have even harder time coming forward. Makes them feel immasculated. :/ "U had to want it. U got hard"
Loctagge
I wasn't talking about cases where women don't go to the cops. But you're right, if we count the estimated unreported rape, it's even worse.
1n50mn1a
How? No one is saying what she did was okay.
BecomingTheFalcon
A lot of peoples comments on Facebook and other sites are though, and it's disgusting.
Sandpussy
Don’t read through Facebook comments. They just bring down your mood. It’s all trolls and stupid people feeding trolls.
AeliousFirstofhisName
Because if the genders were reversed, there would be a much larger outcry. This wasn't even labelled as "rape".
voltlunok
If the genders were reversed, this post wouldn't be on the FP. If the genders were reversed, folks here would be calling the victim a liar-
kaltguzman
Lol yea, fleeing the scene and all the actual evidence people would say liar... It's not a 23 year old accusation, little different
voltlunok
Who is trying to ruin some innocent guy's life with false accusations. Cause some folks here on imgur, are deadset on trying to turn rape-
kaltguzman
Hard to convey sarcasm thru text.
kaltguzman
I understand where you are coming from, I was trying to point out that rape is rape regardless of syntax. It's horrible.
voltlunok
Into some grand 'feminazi conspiracy against men. For some reason. Rape is horrible for both genders, so fuckin' stop trying to make it-
FramFramson
I see imgur has gotten its hands on another "exception to prove the rule" story...
DumpoldRant
Don't post any statistics oe facts here, you will be crucified by the circlejerk.
shadowex3
you mean like the NISVS, which recorded several years in a row that a near equal number of men are "forced to penetrate" as women are raped?
shadowex3
you mean like the NISVS, which recorded several years in a row that a near equal number of men are "forced to penetrate" as women are raped?
shadowex3
I love when people try to defend feminism as "helping men too" and helping all rape victims then filth like you shows up.
FramFramson
You're the one that mentioned feminism, mate, not me...
Tinkrr
It's more than one publication that did this, and she wasn't charged with rape from what people found but that might be a maybe D:
prairiedoggin
Really all I can think of is:
ThatYuckIsMyYum
Ooh baby
THEALLCAPSWARRIOR
SHE WASNT CHARGED RIGHT AWAY - SHE IS GOING TO BE CHARGED WITH SEXUAL INTERCOURSE WITHOUT CONSENT - SOURCE: I LIVE HERE
clairinator
If the police don’t say rape the news won’t say rape generally speaking for liability issues
Tokipudi
Nearly every rape case with a woman rapist is reported this way in the medias. Also, women have way lighter sentences than men in general.
Zixtank
Then what are we to call forced intercourse under pretext of knife to the throat?
tirusr
From what I understand some state laws don't allow for a man to charge a woman with rape.
Jameshooper
Some places law state that rape is forced penetration of the victim so technically women cant rape a man (unless its butt stuff i guess)
tirusr
^
TheSecretBear
This right here. According to the law in most places this isn't rape cause he wasn't penetrated... Kinda shitty...
SalsaCat
Someone else commented that the victim didn't testify which is a part of why. Idk.
kikitheblonde
The 1st time I saw this, I looked @ MT criminal code. It doesn’t have “rape”, only “forced sexual intercourse” and it is gender neutral.
Tinkrr
But is this publication in Montana? Are the other publications that covered this in the same way in Montana? D:
MoooCow
This one was not, but other publications in MT did cover it in the same way.
MoooCow
KRTV, local news on MT, even said on Facebook they avoid using rape in any of their reports (even men) because the legal term is different.
kikitheblonde
Correction- it’s “sexual intercourse without consent.” 45-5-503. Who penetrates whom isn’t relevant in the way the law is written.
neoritter
Well that's at least nice on the law side, the media could at least call it what it is.
jmulderr
Thanks for doing that research.
ProcrastinatorPython
The government needs to redefine rape. Technically, only men are capable of rape since women can't penetrate. They need to use Webster.
Kayveman
You realize than an erection is involuntary, no? Since it is, penetration can certainly be forced.
ProcrastinatorPython
What? A woman cannot penetrate a man with his own penis.
Kayveman
If the man does not consent, and the female forces herself onto it, it sure as hell can. In that case, there is still penetration.
StormageddonDestroyerOfWorlds
You're confused between a penetrator and a penetratee.
IWantACleverUsernameToo
penetration is not limited to a penis, can also be with fingers, a foreign object, so women are definitely capable of rape
ProcrastinatorPython
In most cases of female rape, the woman isn't sticking fingers or an object up his butthole. Use common sense.
IWantACleverUsernameToo
2 so yea it is certainly reasonable that female perps can and would use penetration. Also you were complaining that by the legal definition
IWantACleverUsernameToo
3 "couldn't rape" which is just some made up bull shit.
IWantACleverUsernameToo
1 first of all - how do you know? do you have statistics on the details of female perpetrated assault? assault/rape is about power not sex
ProcrastinatorPython
So all assault/rape is about power? How do you YOU know that? And I am certain that most cases of female sexual assault does not involve //
jayar1st
Most state statutes have Sexual Assault on the books, but don't define "rape."
ProcrastinatorPython
Rape and Sexual Assault do not carry the same social meaning. One is clearly more negative than the other.
jayar1st
Maybe, but we're talking about legal terms.
ProcrastinatorPython
She wasn't even charged for sexual assault btw.
Loser37
I wish Imgur had as much sympathy for female rape victims as it does for male rape victims
AWPer710
Of course they do. This is 'just' saying bad things happen to men too. Or do you think men should remain silent?
CaptainLogopolis
Imgur treats every female #metoo accusation as false yet won't get their head out of Terry Crew's arse
LastoftheLillyCreatures
this is true. But don't you find it pretentious that it's almost always male victims on imgur fp?
kaltguzman
Pretty sure it does, what is upsetting is the fact that a obvious rape case is being defended as not rape.
PardusXY
If only society had as much sympathy for male rape victims as it has for female rape victims.
Cuntard
if that were true, how could bill cosby be so vilified over unsubstantiated allegations that were decades old? or #metoo become a big deal?
Loser37
Terry Crews ha received more supper than any female #MeToo celebrity. They’re ridiculed almost daily
PardusXY
Wow, it’s like 50 cent doesn’t exist...
IcouldntfindmymedsthismorningsoItookyours
Rape is on the books as a crime of penetration. But they could have used sexually assaulted him instead of forced to have sex
BorgClown
Oh that rascal, he actually raped her
kikitheblonde
Not in Montana. Montana code annotated 45-5-503.
Besteger
"Forced to Penetrate" - Mary Koss, PhD
Scahrossar
This. Besides the fact that the rape definition needs a bit of an update.
eggmuffin
Which books? It depends on what laws apply where you live. Most people aren't from where you are.
TehArchangel
Only at common law. Montana defines sexual assault as "[subjecting] another person to any sexual contact without consent."
justanotherdoug
@TanaMaMonster
TehArchangel
Most states have replaced "rape" with "sexual assault" in their penal codes (including Montana), but rape remains the colloquial term.
MoooCow
Montana uses "sexual intercourse without consent".
SGRogers
Time to change those fucking books then.
IsoPropylPotatene
good fucking luck with that.
HankMardukiss
I feel like whoever downvotes your comment is a rapist
HankMardukiss
Also whoever downvotes my comment is a rapist
TheItalianinU
It's about time!
shadowex3
then you'd have feminists forced to accept that half of rapes are committed by women every year. Can't have that AND "rape culture"
PookyButt
The argument I've heard is they don't want to change it because men don't want to admit they were raped and they want men to report
dumpsterjedi1
That excuse is more convenient than same day shipping.
TomatoPepper
That's stupid
PookyButt
To be clear. There is still a charge for when it happens to men. It's the same punishment. It's just not called rape
IcouldntfindmymedsthismorningsoItookyours
Agreed. But sexual assault carries the same punishment.
SGRogers
Doesn't carry the same weight in a social context.
ThelmaTidwell
Which is why the news won’t call it rape (she’s not charged with that) and risk litigation. It’s the public perception is that rape is >>
ThelmaTidwell
Worse than sexual assault, even though they are often the same.
IcouldntfindmymedsthismorningsoItookyours
I agree. But at least the punishment is just as valid.
Ballsackhands
That's not the fault of the definition. It's people who think rape is worse than sexual assault. You need to define them different
sweetnaivety
aaaand didnt penetration happen?
TheN8
Yes but that would've meant charging him with rape. Stupid laws are stupid.
karel1980
With a machete
TacticalTurban42
She did force him to penetrate her
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TacticalTurban42
What do you mean how do you lack basic understanding of the English language? Penetration did indeed happen by force he just wasn't the
TacticalTurban42
One who forced it and it's life or death so yeah imma get a hard on
DisguisedLizardThing
Sure, and if a woman gets wet or even orgasms she can't have been raped either, right?
Yourimaginarygoblin
It should be pointed out that FBI, Websters, and the state they lived in all have a different definition of rape
fartinatornado
If a man and woman get drunk and have consensual sex and that still be considered rape, how the f is this not?
ThisCommentWillGetMeBannedAgain
Because technically that's non-consensual, even if they both say "yes".
fartinatornado
Drunken sex is rape, but this isn't. You missed the point by a mile.
Ballsackhands
You have to use proper legal terminology when reporting. Just like alleged.
vulturedoors
True. In some states, rape is very narrowly defined.
DancingDoggo
Eyy somebody watched Philly D today
Warune
The fuck other defination is there for telling someone fuck me or die?
Necropoledancer
Theyre probably like Britain, our law defines rape as penetrative with a penis.
toissePrincess
Dictionaries are written based on how words are used by society.
realistichorsegonadbehavior
This is part of the reason why Sweden's rape rate is so high compared to other countries. The definition of rape in Sweden covers a lot -->
realistichorsegonadbehavior
--> that would be a lesser charge in other countries.
doedelbuesi
if you have to have sex with someone at gunpoint that should be rated as rape for both genders. but, apparently, (1)
doedelbuesi
as long as you get a boner, "it can't be that bad". It's disgusting. (2)
Theoldredeyes
Ya Phil DeFranco I know it's you.
DeniseReade
But if you google all three relevant definitions... it's still rape. Or, per Mont. "Sexual contact without consent"
VigorousButtstuff
The FBI definition is prejudicial, it basically precludes the idea of female rapists.
DeniseReade
You sure bro?
VigorousButtstuff
If a woman rapes a man, she doesn't typically penetrate him, she penetrates herself With him. Therefore, this allows female rapists an out.
VigorousButtstuff
Because it precludes the prospect of typical rape scenarios involving a female perpetrator, it is prejudicial.
IAmTheKingOfCheese
It was the same in the UK lots of different classifications for things but no female rape at that point. Might have changed since
shadowex3
Nope. Still hasn't. I'm sure feminists will be RIGHT on that.
KarmaRaven23
How? Rape is forcing someone to perform sex with you against that persons will. Definitions aside, she raped him
unluckymercenary
I completely agree. But apparently law has nothing to do with common sense or anything. It seems to be all about technicalities.
Dragas
Definition by law is not equal to definition by language
wonderbug
...and people wonder why more and more people are getting fed up with being told we live in a patriarchy.
Kaysmira
The narrow definition of rape was written, passed into law, and enforced by men, unless state senates were full of women a century ago.
wonderbug
that's just proving my point, given the way the word "patriarchy" is used by the people I'm talking about.
SnowLeopard
Patriarchy and terrible things happening to men are not mutually exclusive
wonderbug
I'm going to absolutely disagree, based on the way it is used by the people who say we are living in one. bait and switch won't work.
eagleandy93
the was SJWs define it , it totally is, They say we are in charge, so NOTHING bad can happen to us, because reasons
camcam1234
Why not choose a simple Def like sexual intercourse without consent. Sexual intercourse meaning penetration of the mouth, Anus or vagina
camcam1234
By the penis to the least degree?
pleaseconsiderthatImightbejoking
Because of sexism.
blainetog
Because that's not how they happened to define it originally and no one's bothered to update the legal definition.
BishopBB
Would you categorize penetration with, say, a broomhandle as rape? Is it sexual intercourse?
WhiteIce2112
Yes. Forcing someone to do something sexual they aren't consenting to should be rape.
ThisCommentWillGetMeBannedAgain
The problem is that there are different views of what is sexual. If I have a foot fetish and forcibly lick your toes, is that rape?
curmudgeon91
I think that would be assault because it isn't sex forced upon me? I would be terrified, don't get me wrong, but it isn't sexual for me(vic)
eagleandy93
if you pop a boner while doing it and I feel SUPER creeped out about it? Fuck yes! You are doing something sexual to me, without consent
ThisOneTimeInZelda
"Have sex with me or I kill you" seems like rape 100% of the time to me.
shadowex3
You'd think but i've been arguing with an SJW here on imgur for a week+ that it's rape when it happens to men and they just REFUSE to get it
PierceInverarity
Agreed, but there are many places including the UK, unfortunately, where the legal definition of rape involves penetration with a penis 1/2
PierceInverarity
which means those without a penis can't legally be charged with rape. Not right by any stretch but it is the law (which needs to change) 2/2
Gasnia
Sadly many states word it as "penetration."
blainetog
Some states define "rape" as "penis-in-vagina after the woman says no or is unconscious." It's pretty archaic, to say the least.
Ravenuser
Anal doesn't count?!
blainetog
Not everywhere, for some reason. It's still a crime, it just isn't categorized the same. For some reason.
DefinitelyNotAdolfHitler
********(between the fine print) "women cant rape (or some shit.********
rvt2
That sounds like attempt to murder to me..
Sareva
Blame law enforcement/government/legal code. You can't really say the news is bad for not wanting to be sued over this.
HotFudgeMonday
Why blame law enforcement? We don't make the laws or the definitions of said laws.
Sareva
I meant more the FBI for the current definition of rape, not the local police departments, though not even the former is to blame really.
ThisOneTimeInZelda
Who would sue them?
Sareva
The accused ( If miraculously found not guilty), her family, etc. Honestly, I don't know who would, only that it is a potential legal issue.
YES16MAN
This is bullshit. You shouldn't have to bend the truth just to avoid legal retaliation.
ScrewMyVacationPlansIGuess
That’s why I’m all for the Uniform Code of Military Justice definition.
NotRaiko
Shut up you dirtbag airman get back to green dot. Don't look at anyone thats sexual harassment.
NotRaiko
But also don't not look at them because that's also sexual harassment by body shaming.
zykelator
Sometimes rape is defined by "Penetrating" someone forcefully, so women literally cant rape (without extra tools that is)
Kayveman
A woman could rape you with your penis.
zykelator
thats some horrible wording in laws for you.
AMRIV
Are you not familiar with the legal system?
zykelator
If there is universal legal system i havent heard of, then no.
TwerkingLurker
So you're saying if she stabbed him with the machete, it would be considered rape?
Aazlor
Yes.
z3lfmoord
Only if it’s in the ass
qr1983
No, that would then be sodomy.
TaplessAce
What if she stabbed the penis
ohmikeyusofine
Really? Who gives a sh!t what you call it? Forced to have sex against you will under threat of injury is the same thing as rape.
Bakseed
Nope. Words have meaning. "Pedophile" and "lolicon" mean vastly different things. "Raped" and "forced to have sex" are not the same.
ohmikeyusofine
Those words have definitions, Forced to have sex against your will is a definition of rape it’s exactly the same thing.
therealbardman
Nothing more than circle jerking going on here.
Christx30
Depends on how the law is written. If the DA charges rape, and his lawyer reads the law in court, it gets thrown out and she's free 1/2
Christx30
if the law says the rapist has to penetrate the victim for it to be rape.
kaltguzman
Sounds like a sexist law then.
Christx30
Without a doubt, it is. But one doesn't prosecute what actually happened. One prosecutes what you can prove.
Blanxmarx
Not calling it rape is downplaying what she actually did. It's like saying a robber re-assigned possession of my belongings.
ILoveCreamPies
Except it’s the state they live in that defines it as “sex without consent”, not anyone here.
Blanxmarx
"Montana Code section 45-5-503: Sexual Intercourse Without Consent (Rape)" Montana acknowledges the word rape and does not prohibit it.
Jred89G
The word rape is preferred due to its ability to evoke strong emotions
aleister94
imgur is just trying really really hard to pretend there is like a feminist conspiracy against men
ColonelPotoo
Nobody said anything about feminism, just a problem of double standards....
DumpoldRant
http://imgur.com/jfd3RQG.gif
aleister94
are you saying i'm doing that or agreeing with that that is what OP is doing?
DumpoldRant
It's a counterpoint to the Feminist Fry meme that keeps getting posted on this ceaseless circle jerk.
DumpoldRant
So, in other words, I'm agreeing with you.