I’ve got friends and family going back a few generations who have served in every branch of the military (except the newly created Space Force). Thankfully, none have made the ultimate sacrifice so far, but that doesn’t detract from the solemnity of this day of respect.
Is this to remember the people who accepted a paycheck to travel to a country to murder the inhabitants so that rich people can get richer from the resources that were located there, and ended up being killed or dying when they returned home and were left broken with debilitating trauma that eventually caused them to take their own life or dying homeless on the streets abandoned by society and suffering?
I'm retired Army. I can't go out on memorial Day because if people ask me about lost Brothers & Sisters I just start crying like a baby. It's been years, and the pain just doesn't fade.
Thank you for your service. You and those who are no longer with us. I started smiling as I watched this video; when I read the title, I thought he was going to drink the beer because tomorrow is a holiday (not a memorial day here but christian day for holy spirit), but then I scrolled down and read the line below, and now I’m crying as I watch the end of the video. 40 M, neither American nor in the military. thank you.
I look forward to the presidential address tomorrow where he talks about how great he is, bitches about wanting a golden ballroom, and fails to say anything positive about our lost service members.
I'd really like to hope it might be for every person the bar owner lost in the line of service. But then again, people will do anything for engagement on social media....
There's a fine line between, "I respect this holiday for what it is, and I respect people who gave their lives for what they believe in." and "Alright, calm down, we've all had tragedy and death in our lives, lets settle down."
And yet, the "pro troops***" party is all gungo ho about sending them. (Asterisks since it's obvious they don't actually care about the troops as people, just as the idea of people fighting on their behalf. Also, it's inaccurate to say Democrats don't support the troops - we just apparently have a difference in opinion of what "support" means since we think the people themselves matter too, not just "more war is better" like the R's do these days)
No congress ever seems to give a fuck about the troops. Remember the burn pits? Look it’s commendable what Jon Stewart did for those folks, But it really should not take a TV comedian to make them get their shit in gear.
Our military men and women signed up to protect this country and our politicians have instead used them like quarters in a casino gambling on enriching themselves through the theft of other nations' oil and mineral wealth
It's still a sacrifice all the same. The people we shouldn't be respecting are the flag officers who decided to resign instead of straight up telling Trump "no".
Resigning is straight up telling him no. They're saying "I won't follow that command." Regardless, outside of attempting to assassinate the President themselves, they're going to be replaced with someone willing to follow the command.
It's okay to simply honor the sacrifice and leave out the politics/narrative for just one day, whether you're pro military or critical of it. (Mixed feelings, myself.)
To answer your question though, I would say during most if not all of the major climate disasters we've been experiencing
I served. You swear an oath of allegiance to the US Constitution, and the UCMJ. "Protecting the people" isn't just about fighting against invasion, but about national security interests. I know, that last phrase has been abused by leaders. Sending people to die in a war that was falsely portrayed as necessary really sucks. It's even worse when you know people who died for a cause that was a lie. I'll never forgive Bush and Trump.
I do. And I had friends that went and were changed forever. For a bunch of horse shit we shouldn’t have been involved in. I think there has to come a point when we stop celebrating the sacrifice because it romanticizes it for future generations. I suppose at a bar, it might be a real moment of mourning for a lot of people, but I was responding to the title more than the video.
I wouldn't call it a celebration, but more of an honoring... as they're still people who put their lives on the line for the nation, whether it was real to US as civilians or not. To them, the ones who died? It's as real as can be.
You're welcome and thanks for your supportive feedback.
I always find Memorial Day more painful when you know your country is waging a war where there really was no "imminent threat" and it was all due to a fucked up war mongering administration. THIS one, Trump's... is even worse than Bush, because they weren't even clever about the falsified reason(s). They're SHIT people who should be in prison.
enkrypt3d
and we get to drink the beers tho right? RIGHT?
Dannyalcatraz
I’ve got friends and family going back a few generations who have served in every branch of the military (except the newly created Space Force). Thankfully, none have made the ultimate sacrifice so far, but that doesn’t detract from the solemnity of this day of respect.
klean9
nikkilaurakevin365
I don't get off I work everyday 364.🙄
brownribbon
I’m off work tomorrow because I quit my job in January
XuncuTheTiger
At ease, lads. Your watch is over.
twsx
DALLASLAVOWNER
The fucking boots
TrumpRapesChildren
I keep 2 rememberance bracelets on me or near me at all times.
Gibbons and Beverly. RIP brothers. I'm glad you never saw how far we fell afterwards.
Blimjoe
Is this to remember the people who accepted a paycheck to travel to a country to murder the inhabitants so that rich people can get richer from the resources that were located there, and ended up being killed or dying when they returned home and were left broken with debilitating trauma that eventually caused them to take their own life or dying homeless on the streets abandoned by society and suffering?
unluckyandbored
I just lost my father this past Thursday. He was a Vietnam veteran. I'll be going to his funeral instead of a barbecue.
Omnislash9
I'm so sorry for your loss, friend. Condolences to you and your family
LogicDude
I'm retired Army. I can't go out on memorial Day because if people ask me about lost Brothers & Sisters I just start crying like a baby. It's been years, and the pain just doesn't fade.
Eldibs
Sometimes the best we can do is carry on.
Orsoks
Thank you for your service. You and those who are no longer with us.
I started smiling as I watched this video; when I read the title, I thought he was going to drink the beer because tomorrow is a holiday (not a memorial day here but christian day for holy spirit), but then I scrolled down and read the line below, and now I’m crying as I watch the end of the video. 40 M, neither American nor in the military.
thank you.
HouseOfEvil
Welcome home.
RElGNMAN
StarscreamAndHutch
Thank you for your sacrifice.
DarkfireDragon
MantisTobagganMD
This seems so performative to me. Maybe I'm jaded (in fact, I know I am) but still.
twsx
Commiserating over self-inflicted wounds one day a year while not doing anything to stop inflicting them on the other 364. Of course it is.
VindictiveBathToaster
I look forward to the presidential address tomorrow where he talks about how great he is, bitches about wanting a golden ballroom, and fails to say anything positive about our lost service members.
PleaseRespectMyAsshole
It's supposed to be one seat, not the entire bar.
There are actual rules for this (in the US), believe it or not.
TooSoonOldTooLateSmart
Missing Man Formation
BearieBlue
I'd really like to hope it might be for every person the bar owner lost in the line of service. But then again, people will do anything for engagement on social media....
YeOlRazzleDazzle
There's a fine line between, "I respect this holiday for what it is, and I respect people who gave their lives for what they believe in." and "Alright, calm down, we've all had tragedy and death in our lives, lets settle down."
Nukls
yeah
this is more
performative art
9z2nf02h
performance*
gizmomelb
sounds like a lot of modern america. it's all show for the internet points, while actual conditions or people don't matter.
PineappleLoopsBroether
Which is fine.
TurnsOut42WasASlightMiscalculation
Rules? Or traditions? (which may vary from location to location)
PleaseRespectMyAsshole
Traditional rules.
XuncuTheTiger
Ruling traditions.
micicle
To rule the people tradionally
nachosyndicate
If you care about veterans you should be mad as hell about this war and about how little this administration cares about them.
CoalhouseWalker
And yet, the "pro troops***" party is all gungo ho about sending them. (Asterisks since it's obvious they don't actually care about the troops as people, just as the idea of people fighting on their behalf. Also, it's inaccurate to say Democrats don't support the troops - we just apparently have a difference in opinion of what "support" means since we think the people themselves matter too, not just "more war is better" like the R's do these days)
JestersWing
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Filanwizard
No congress ever seems to give a fuck about the troops. Remember the burn pits? Look it’s commendable what Jon Stewart did for those folks, But it really should not take a TV comedian to make them get their shit in gear.
nachosyndicate
No, it shouldn’t
freshthrowaway1138
No Congress? Or no GOP controlled Congress? Because I haven't seen the Dems cut VA spending in decades.
TheMershedPerderder
My dad saw horrors beyond comprehension in the Beirut bombing of 1983, and ssomehow he still likes Trump. JFC it hurts.
nachosyndicate
I’m truly sorry you have to experience this.
Kaze54
This war? Try all the wars in my life time. 6 years in the airforce was enough for me to realize, all we do is turn brown kids into dead kids.
nachosyndicate
I am in no way excluding other wars. And believe me I’ve lived through a few of them.
JeezusJuice
I mean, sure, but when was the last time soldiers were protecting the people of the US?
PirateArrrgument
Our military men and women signed up to protect this country and our politicians have instead used them like quarters in a casino gambling on enriching themselves through the theft of other nations' oil and mineral wealth
TheDoctorCrankenstein
Not since I was born that's for fucking sure.
US military doesn't serve the people. It serves the interests of the Imperialist state. Fuck the dogs of capital.
GeneralPrower
1945.
NKato
It's still a sacrifice all the same. The people we shouldn't be respecting are the flag officers who decided to resign instead of straight up telling Trump "no".
Akurei00
Resigning is straight up telling him no. They're saying "I won't follow that command." Regardless, outside of attempting to assassinate the President themselves, they're going to be replaced with someone willing to follow the command.
Omnislash9
It's okay to simply honor the sacrifice and leave out the politics/narrative for just one day, whether you're pro military or critical of it. (Mixed feelings, myself.)
To answer your question though, I would say during most if not all of the major climate disasters we've been experiencing
gharrison
Probably more often than you think about. Nearly every emergency you'll see a Guard Unit Deployed.
JeezusJuice
Yeah, that’s honestly a really strong counter argument.
TheBluntSoldier
You're the type of guy who complains to cashiers about prices being too high
RestlessVagabond
ad hominem
adjective
marked by or being an attack on an opponent's character rather than by an answer to the contentions made
DeathLemons
Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt if elderberries.
RestlessVagabond
cytherians
I served. You swear an oath of allegiance to the US Constitution, and the UCMJ. "Protecting the people" isn't just about fighting against invasion, but about national security interests. I know, that last phrase has been abused by leaders. Sending people to die in a war that was falsely portrayed as necessary really sucks. It's even worse when you know people who died for a cause that was a lie. I'll never forgive Bush and Trump.
JeezusJuice
I do. And I had friends that went and were changed forever. For a bunch of horse shit we shouldn’t have been involved in. I think there has to come a point when we stop celebrating the sacrifice because it romanticizes it for future generations. I suppose at a bar, it might be a real moment of mourning for a lot of people, but I was responding to the title more than the video.
cytherians
I wouldn't call it a celebration, but more of an honoring... as they're still people who put their lives on the line for the nation, whether it was real to US as civilians or not. To them, the ones who died? It's as real as can be.
Frencheeseater
THIS !!! Thank you & sympathy for all us, the small puppets.
cytherians
You're welcome and thanks for your supportive feedback.
I always find Memorial Day more painful when you know your country is waging a war where there really was no "imminent threat" and it was all due to a fucked up war mongering administration. THIS one, Trump's... is even worse than Bush, because they weren't even clever about the falsified reason(s). They're SHIT people who should be in prison.
Frencheeseater
Yes, it's getting urgent for every country to flush the turd if there are on the top office.
Otherwise, let's make Interpol able to arrest bad leaders for crimes all over the world, you'll see, wars would quickly stop !
And then prosecute the bastards to Den Haag, International Court of Justice.