“Homeland security is homeland security…Our flights are under attack by a small number of people and it has to stop. … This is not about ‘masks’”

Feb 16, 2022 4:40 PM

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/02/15/eight-republican-senators-say-they-oppose-no-fly-list-disruptive-passengers-because-it-would-equate-mask-opponents-terrorists/

Maybe refusing to wear a mask on a plane after specifically agreeing to do so IS a form of terrorism

It is the foley of men to assume that the no fly list is exclusive to terrorists.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I don’t know of any person who would want to be on a plane with people unable to follow acceptable rules. Safety first.

4 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

That’s right let just make all flights amateur mma matchs to the death. Bonuses offered for getting door open in flight.

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

If you're being disruptive putting passengers and flight crew at risk there should be repercussions. Learn to act like a responsible adult.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

How did you just know Cruz would be on there before even scrolling down.

4 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 0

JFC everyday they say such stupid shit

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

They got on the plane in a mask. Then they took it off. It's not a "stance", it's an intentional disruption of service. Consequences exist.

4 years ago | Likes 39 Dislikes 0

Everyone of those senators has embraced violence against the sitting government. They themselves are terrorist leaders

4 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

If airline mask mandates persist and nothing is done about these idiots a relatively small group could cause a lot of problems. See truckers

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Once again republicans come out against the private businesses they claim to support, or did they not know the airlines keep the lists?

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

You can be put on the no fly list for a lot of reasons. It’s not just terrorism.

4 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Force them to only fly Spirit

4 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

And Ryan Air.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Disruptive? On a flying object? Sharing space with others? Law and Order (huge chuckle).

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

"Don't call the people doing legitimately terrorist things terrorists! That might hurt their FEELINGS! And my VOTES!"

4 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

if you oppose mask during a global pandemic... then maybe you are abit of a terrorist

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Why do Republicans freak out when consequences happen? It's almost as if they've become conditioned to never receive consequences. Weird..

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

OF COURSE Ted "Cancun" Cruz is one of them. He's worried he won't be able to flee his state again when things get tough.

4 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

"...it would equate mask opponents to terrorists"

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Add those 8 senators to the no fly list!

4 years ago | Likes 401 Dislikes 1

My thoughts exactly. But do it before they vote.

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I recall that Congress members get to pull shenanigans when it comes to air travel, so it probably wouldn't be that inconvenient for them.

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

They're probably already on it.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Does not help they have their owns jets.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

They shouldn't.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

But then how will Ted Cruz escape the horrid Texas winter to Cancun?!?

4 years ago | Likes 68 Dislikes 0

on manchin's yacht, of course.

4 years ago | Likes 36 Dislikes 0

Maybe Cruz should take a Cruise, unless he's scared he'll get Covid.

4 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

They'll be on said list once the Jan 6th Committee completes their investigation of the deadly Insurrection, arrested, and expelled.

4 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Your optimism is quaint

4 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Absurdity has become so normalized that people are actually responding to this as if it isn’t batshit fucking insanity.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It doesn't equate mask opponents as terrorists and people are put on the no fly list for less all the fucking time.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Mark the reason for the inclusion on the list. Then, when an anti-masker whines that they are being classified as a terrorist, 1/2

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

2/2 the airline can say ' No, you are on the list because you are a fuckwit'

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Hurry up and start the national No-fly list. It’s way overdue

4 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

There is a national one, but its reserved for dicking with political opponents, journalists, peace advocates, and members of the military.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

*looks at list of 8 senators* "Yeah that tracks."

4 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

It's not about why they were disruptive... It's the fact that they were disruptive. Anti mask supporters fucking suck poop

4 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

I knew 6 of the Senators before I even read their names. Asshats, all.

4 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

Great idea! Terrorists and no maskers alike kill innocents for their selfish personal agendas.

4 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Companies will still have their individual no-fly lists. They could just share them.

4 years ago | Likes 182 Dislikes 1

It would save money and increase safety if there was a federal list.

4 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 1

They are...

4 years ago | Likes 49 Dislikes 1

The article says they don't.

4 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 1

Officially they don't, unofficially??

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

In the EU that is against the privacy laws. They'd need permission.

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Data processing under GDPR must have a legal basis, which include "legal obligations" and "vital interest", air safety is probably valid.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I wouldn't expect it. Only if the police agree maybe in the point of air safety and passenger was a danger according to the police.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Not a lawyer: but couldn’t they just form a private organization, which all the airlines would be a “member” of. The passenger agrees 1/1

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

To terms and conditions of that organization and its sharing of information? There’s a huge block of text you agree to anyway!

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Sharing info is not even necessary. No-fly-list remains strictly at org. Airliners never get direct access to it. Problem would be getting 1

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Airliners to join and trust that organization to give them the ticket money, also that service would cut into their profits

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

No, not in Europe. Privacy laws are already strict and getting more and more strict. It's a good thing.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

That may be the best solution anyways. Being barred from flying all airlines for one incident is a bit much. Let them do it individually.

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 49

Flying is a privilege that regularly gets yanked for FAR less than something that requires federal marshals to intervene.

4 years ago | Likes 40 Dislikes 1

It would depend on the incident but everything mentioned in the article seems far beyond justifiable for banning them completely.

4 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

If that one incident is trying to open a door mid-flight, then absolutely they deserve to be banned.

4 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Note: it requires conviction to be added.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

So if you only commit a crime once you shouldn’t be punished? It’s only if you continue to do so that you should suffer consequences?

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Well, I only murdered that person and desecrated their corpse in front of their family the one time.

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I only fucked a goat once, I don’t deserve to be on a list of goat fuckers.

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Besides, you don't hit your stride until the 5th or 6th goat

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You can oppose mandates while wearing a tshirt and a mask stating as such, and not end up on the list. Want to get physical? On the list...

4 years ago | Likes 108 Dislikes 1

They're not just "skeptical" they're unruly. Doesn't matter why they're unruly. If they were merely skeptical, they could have not shown up.

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Alternatively, you could just not get on a plane if you don’t want to follow basic safety rules.

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

And to specify further, a proper mask worn properly. Not women's underwear worn over the face. (Yes, that is a specific example.)

4 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 0

The one that passes me off is those stupid mesh masks. They always argue with me when I tell them that isn't allowed

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Or even masks with the centers cut out.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Yeah, the answer to the question of "Did we really have to specify 'effective for the purpose' on mask requirements" was apparently 'yes'...

4 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Even two years later, I'm still seeing people with masks over mouths, but not noses. The dumbest part is, we don't even HAVE a mandate -

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Flying we did at least a month ago for domestic US flights. The situation changes I don’t know if it’s still in place.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

currently, so if you don't want to wear a mask, you don't HAVE to. So that would imply that these people WANT to wear a mask, but still -

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

choose to wear it improperly, protecting no one. It's fucking MIND BOGGLING! Wear or don't wear, but choose 100%!

4 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

4 years ago | Likes 86 Dislikes 1

There’s plenty of anti-Vaxxers who’d love to send kids with Chicken Pox to school. The vaccine and Pod parties had a decent crossover time.

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

Pox parties*, specifically, parties where the hosts kid had the Pox and you’d try and get it to everyone to get it out of the way early.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

My parents generation did that, so I just figured that was "normal"

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It was normal when it made some semblance of sense, now it’s unnecessary

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Even once the vaccine arrived, there were still holdouts for a bit because “this is what we’ve always done” logic

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

My parents sent me to spend the weekend with a friend that had it. I still didn't get it until much later, in my early 20's.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Of course you can take a dump on a public sidewalk, just gotta be quick about it.

4 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 2

https://youtu.be/9_c1DtH8M30 consider your day blessed, friend.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

i wonder if the increase in public dedication over time has a direct relation to the decline of our social contracts

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

*defication

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

I don't know if theres been an increase over time but sure, as they relate to housing the homeless, primarily, I'd imagine. It's not fun>

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

shitting in public, and it's pretty taboo still, so I doubt the majority of it is out of mere disregard. If there's no option ya gotta go.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0