6210 pts · October 30, 2015
Slight reminder though that if your parents did something, you're not responsible for it. However, if the child turns out to be as much of an ass as their parents and doesn't at least spend something to help others, then they're definitely guilty of their own shiz
If we're talking shipping, sure. When we're talking movies, that doesn't apply. I'm already paying for a subscription, there's absolutely no need for me to also pay rent in addition to a subscription. It'd be like you paying a usage fee on your vacuum after you've bought it and unpacked it.
I've always "loved" that Amazon has you pay a subscription... and then you have to RENT or BUY movies - wtf I'm already paying you, why should I pay you again?🤣🤣
Out (of) Topic - basically not relevant to what is being talked about right here at this time
Nope, I generally do not really care about the Israel and Palestine question other than the actual repercussions it might create. If you've seen my recent comments you already know my position on the matter, so I won't get into it here, it'd be a massive OT.
Why? Should I be required to tell people every single thing instead of saying "I don't like either of them"? Believe what you will, if only I did receive money for it I'd actually encourage you to. Also, again - not american. Jill stein can kiss my ass for all I care, idk who that person is tbh.
Agreed, but it doesn't feel right at all... shouldn't you push for better alternatives? A third party? It feels reductive that one of the most influential countries around has to choose from two choices and they're both bad or not ideal..
DISCLAIMER: I AM NOT A CITIZEN OF THE USAm I the only one who doesn't really like either? I mean, Harris is better than Biden and certainly Trump, but I don't really like either... and before someone comments - yes, we're put in a position nowadays where the US's elections actually interests other countries aswell and other may have an opinion on the candidates. If ya don't like it, you could've avoided doing what ya did for the last 80 years.
No, no I'm not. I'm impartial, not psycho. If anything, I feel way too much - not for those not close to me, though - I could say the same for those who overfeel really. I won't go on.
The way you're speaking, sometimes I can't really tell. Anyways, it's about time this convo is over I think
To me, you're the insane guy who can't fucking grasp a single concept🤣 If someone thinks they're absolutely correct all the time they'll never fucking realize they AREN'T. Jeez and that's crazy?
By seeing thw wrong on both sides I've been called a commie, a nazi, a zionist, a filthy Arab, homophobic slurs and more.
Personal*
When sane and insane are one's predonal jurisdiction, one may end thinking eating shit and kicking dogs as sane and living under a roof as a madman's dream.
The orthodox jews are a religious sect, they're a part of Israel just as much as Mormons are a part of the united States, what kind of thought is that? Plus, they were invited into the present government coalition by Netanyahu and that was weird for everyone... You're trying to condemn an entire people for the action of their government and before you say I'm doing that too - no, no I'm definitely not doing that, and if you've thought that so far it wasn't my intention
Surely that should happen to a far right government at least - the population is another thing entirely
Yeah this is weird now - someone clearly hijacked your phone cause now we're back having g a civil discussion under another comment lol
Black and white as they could be neither in my eyes nor, in my opinion, reality. There's blame on both sides and in this case, they're both being "manipulated" into tearing each other apart by other actors - the orthodox jews and Iran - again, you see this outcome because Israel is far superior in strength, that is why it looks so horrifying, but the same is happening in UKR for example, and they are resisting far better - and the news have almost stopped talking about them Vs Palestine.
They stopped because the world *made* them stop. Am I saying this is the same case? Maybe. Maybe not. Hopefully not. Usually a war has such sides, yes, usually a war doesn't stem from two people attacking and bickering for decades and killing each other constantly - used to happen a lot back in European history... not anymore. They've been at each other's throats for decades. Israel is simply more powerful and has always been so, kind of. Certainly Vs Palestine, at least. But things aren't as
Just a little remainder: there's no good side in a war, and in this one, there's more actors than these two, and the "unseen" ones are more important than Israel and Hamas themselves, and you've already agreed on that. They are the reason the situation is the way it is, and you continuing to believe Israel as a whole is evil is the same idea as calling Germans genocidal still, refusing to recognize the existence of nazis and conflating all of them into "the Germans". Have a nice day.
And yet this wasn't what you said earlier. Weird. Is it still you or did someone else take your account lol? You're stating the opposite of what you've said so far, you misquote me and put words in my mouth - almost as if someone else has joined on your side and has no idea what's been said so far lol. What's been said has been said. Reason has definitely left this conversation, and there's really not much else to say now, a shame.
You misread again, apparently. I said it's not a genocide because they're not actively killing and forcing ALL Palestinians in every part of their territory and Israel to either leave or die, which is what colonies and settlements actually do. Twisting my words again. I'm sorry it went from a civil, double sided convo to this. The death of reason.
Whre did I say that? Lol. I said it is obvious that makes people leave, I said the exact opposite lol. I said it doesn't constitute as genocide in that sense, otherwise you're literally arguing the allies genocided their way through WW2🤣 that is a war crime, bombing civilians is despicable and evil - but so is hiding among them. Please don't twist my words.
There's still been a right winged downward spiral - back when the left was in power they tried to reach out. The orthodox jews literally blew it by shooting the lead israeli guy in charge of negotiations and killing him. That prompted hamas to bomb for... a reason? That's not entirely the point. Point is they always did, sure, but at one point they tried to reconcile after that the right came up and those meager attempts were stopped altogether Believing all'em to be evil incarnate is nazi like.
To me, you not realizing before what I just wrote is unacceptable, because I've been having the impression you're a pretty smart and level headed person one can easily converse with.
Doesn't seem like it. But you do you. Friendly remained that the UN does things based on how many people vote for it - and those who vote are national representatives. If you, say, don't trust your government, you shouldn't trust what the UN decides either. Why do they recognize it now and they've never recognized actual land grab and cultural erasure and legalized homicide (aka settlements and colonies) as genocide?
Israel had a left wing, but it was then slowly pushed away and it wasted away basically..
Actually there was a pretty noticeable spiral - after Netanyahu became prime Minister the first time, the right wing started forming around him. He was already a member of the right wing party that formed a few years before his mandate and by the time he got back up again the right had already been in power once and with him things got markedly worse. This time he even allied himself with extreme right wingers Jewish orthodox...
When it comes to settlements and colonies, you have my full support on that idea - this war though its just a combination of warcrimes, in a time period that apparently treats the Geneva convention as a punch card and a to do list rather than something to avoid, between this and Russia V Ukraine I doubt there's many war crimes left that still need to appear in order for the list to be checked completely...
Slight reminder though that if your parents did something, you're not responsible for it. However, if the child turns out to be as much of an ass as their parents and doesn't at least spend something to help others, then they're definitely guilty of their own shiz
If we're talking shipping, sure. When we're talking movies, that doesn't apply. I'm already paying for a subscription, there's absolutely no need for me to also pay rent in addition to a subscription. It'd be like you paying a usage fee on your vacuum after you've bought it and unpacked it.
I've always "loved" that Amazon has you pay a subscription... and then you have to RENT or BUY movies - wtf I'm already paying you, why should I pay you again?🤣🤣
Out (of) Topic - basically not relevant to what is being talked about right here at this time
Nope, I generally do not really care about the Israel and Palestine question other than the actual repercussions it might create. If you've seen my recent comments you already know my position on the matter, so I won't get into it here, it'd be a massive OT.
Why? Should I be required to tell people every single thing instead of saying "I don't like either of them"? Believe what you will, if only I did receive money for it I'd actually encourage you to. Also, again - not american. Jill stein can kiss my ass for all I care, idk who that person is tbh.
Agreed, but it doesn't feel right at all... shouldn't you push for better alternatives? A third party? It feels reductive that one of the most influential countries around has to choose from two choices and they're both bad or not ideal..
DISCLAIMER: I AM NOT A CITIZEN OF THE US
Am I the only one who doesn't really like either? I mean, Harris is better than Biden and certainly Trump, but I don't really like either... and before someone comments - yes, we're put in a position nowadays where the US's elections actually interests other countries aswell and other may have an opinion on the candidates. If ya don't like it, you could've avoided doing what ya did for the last 80 years.
No, no I'm not. I'm impartial, not psycho. If anything, I feel way too much - not for those not close to me, though - I could say the same for those who overfeel really. I won't go on.
The way you're speaking, sometimes I can't really tell. Anyways, it's about time this convo is over I think
To me, you're the insane guy who can't fucking grasp a single concept🤣 If someone thinks they're absolutely correct all the time they'll never fucking realize they AREN'T. Jeez and that's crazy?
By seeing thw wrong on both sides I've been called a commie, a nazi, a zionist, a filthy Arab, homophobic slurs and more.
Personal*
When sane and insane are one's predonal jurisdiction, one may end thinking eating shit and kicking dogs as sane and living under a roof as a madman's dream.
The orthodox jews are a religious sect, they're a part of Israel just as much as Mormons are a part of the united States, what kind of thought is that? Plus, they were invited into the present government coalition by Netanyahu and that was weird for everyone... You're trying to condemn an entire people for the action of their government and before you say I'm doing that too - no, no I'm definitely not doing that, and if you've thought that so far it wasn't my intention
Surely that should happen to a far right government at least - the population is another thing entirely
Yeah this is weird now - someone clearly hijacked your phone cause now we're back having g a civil discussion under another comment lol
Black and white as they could be neither in my eyes nor, in my opinion, reality. There's blame on both sides and in this case, they're both being "manipulated" into tearing each other apart by other actors - the orthodox jews and Iran - again, you see this outcome because Israel is far superior in strength, that is why it looks so horrifying, but the same is happening in UKR for example, and they are resisting far better - and the news have almost stopped talking about them Vs Palestine.
They stopped because the world *made* them stop. Am I saying this is the same case? Maybe. Maybe not. Hopefully not. Usually a war has such sides, yes, usually a war doesn't stem from two people attacking and bickering for decades and killing each other constantly - used to happen a lot back in European history... not anymore. They've been at each other's throats for decades. Israel is simply more powerful and has always been so, kind of. Certainly Vs Palestine, at least. But things aren't as
Just a little remainder: there's no good side in a war, and in this one, there's more actors than these two, and the "unseen" ones are more important than Israel and Hamas themselves, and you've already agreed on that. They are the reason the situation is the way it is, and you continuing to believe Israel as a whole is evil is the same idea as calling Germans genocidal still, refusing to recognize the existence of nazis and conflating all of them into "the Germans". Have a nice day.
And yet this wasn't what you said earlier. Weird. Is it still you or did someone else take your account lol? You're stating the opposite of what you've said so far, you misquote me and put words in my mouth - almost as if someone else has joined on your side and has no idea what's been said so far lol. What's been said has been said. Reason has definitely left this conversation, and there's really not much else to say now, a shame.
You misread again, apparently. I said it's not a genocide because they're not actively killing and forcing ALL Palestinians in every part of their territory and Israel to either leave or die, which is what colonies and settlements actually do. Twisting my words again. I'm sorry it went from a civil, double sided convo to this. The death of reason.
Whre did I say that? Lol. I said it is obvious that makes people leave, I said the exact opposite lol. I said it doesn't constitute as genocide in that sense, otherwise you're literally arguing the allies genocided their way through WW2🤣 that is a war crime, bombing civilians is despicable and evil - but so is hiding among them. Please don't twist my words.
There's still been a right winged downward spiral - back when the left was in power they tried to reach out. The orthodox jews literally blew it by shooting the lead israeli guy in charge of negotiations and killing him. That prompted hamas to bomb for... a reason? That's not entirely the point. Point is they always did, sure, but at one point they tried to reconcile after that the right came up and those meager attempts were stopped altogether Believing all'em to be evil incarnate is nazi like.
To me, you not realizing before what I just wrote is unacceptable, because I've been having the impression you're a pretty smart and level headed person one can easily converse with.
Doesn't seem like it. But you do you. Friendly remained that the UN does things based on how many people vote for it - and those who vote are national representatives. If you, say, don't trust your government, you shouldn't trust what the UN decides either. Why do they recognize it now and they've never recognized actual land grab and cultural erasure and legalized homicide (aka settlements and colonies) as genocide?
Israel had a left wing, but it was then slowly pushed away and it wasted away basically..
Actually there was a pretty noticeable spiral - after Netanyahu became prime Minister the first time, the right wing started forming around him. He was already a member of the right wing party that formed a few years before his mandate and by the time he got back up again the right had already been in power once and with him things got markedly worse. This time he even allied himself with extreme right wingers Jewish orthodox...
When it comes to settlements and colonies, you have my full support on that idea - this war though its just a combination of warcrimes, in a time period that apparently treats the Geneva convention as a punch card and a to do list rather than something to avoid, between this and Russia V Ukraine I doubt there's many war crimes left that still need to appear in order for the list to be checked completely...