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#ai #collapse Pretty sure they are referring to the AI bubble stock schemes, not AI as a concept.
Apr 20, 2026 10:40 PM
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#ai #collapse Pretty sure they are referring to the AI bubble stock schemes, not AI as a concept.
jimmac91
once the $ dries up and the investors disappear, it will evolve into something else, but the bubble will burst.
OliverClothesoff70
And the Zune.
BendOverAndIllShowYa
Windows phone was actually pretty good but got crushed by Apple.
kerdude
Don't forget 3D movies, tv, and video games
CeoHuntingSeason
You sweet summer child, ai it's just a bunch of statistics, you could run in a excel sheet with a strong enough computer, so yeah it's gonna stay for as long as we live, it's utility is because it's a tool not because you need to convince others it has values like NFT or crypto
Spidey209
Here! Hold this bag! I'll be right back!
Ricdesan
Hahahahahahahahaahahahah Burn it with fire
hogeyegrex
https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-subprime-ai-crisis-is-here/
greggbert
AI does for words what spreadsheets did for numbers. The world uses a lot of words to get things done. There's going to be a massive shift in how we do everything involving words.
Bigblackdick69
A.I originally started as weather models. How well do you trust your local forecast is how you should trust A.I.
Kats8652
Windows phone was ok, Had a Nokia Lumia with Windows 8 on it. It sucked for desktops but the tile UI was pretty good for a smartphone. And I had office on it.
Had it for 6 years, missed the whole Pokémon go craze though because there were no apps for the bloody thing.
raitchison
The difference was virtually everyone knew that the other things weren't going to be around long term.
To be clear, the tools we're currently (incorrectly) calling "AI" are not going to be going away. and in some cases (such as medical imaging or accessibility tools for those who are hearing or visually impaired), they shouldn't.
erinaceus
apple 2 forever
foxpotate
They are planning on reusing AI for mass surveillance data analysis. Good luck getting rid of that. They have been harvesting your data for decades and they can't afford to let the data bubble die.
ufoara
"ecoevo.social never charged you a dime, never had a Series A, and never pivoted to enterprise. It was just scientists being nerdy on the internet, federated and free. Claude looked at it, shrugged, and said 'I don't replace friends.' It died as it lived — not dead at all, actually, still posting about nematodes."
DerpyBestPrincess
It has already revolutionized cancer research and deep Universe understanding. But all you toddlers do is see one tiny use of AI, LLMs and image generation, and demand that we put in laws to remove all AI, effectively killing the fantastic research revolutions we've had. That's because of you. All you.
The701
"Copilot is for entertainment purposes only." https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-copilot/for-individuals/termsofuse
Now start using this automated hallucination engine for all of your critical business stuff, goddammit!!
Shadowkrieger
Yeah, I work for Microsoft. They are having me lie in a meeting about how much time ai saves me.
Alistairetheblu
Remember when Windows phone launched, and they had a parade about it that included a float with their competitors in a hearse?
ReelPoop
sometimes you are right and sometimes you are not
LicensedAdHominem
All these companies could implode right now, and open models would still be all over, GPUs would still be out there, and so a LOT of AI would remain—and literally why would people who use it now stop using it then? They actually WANT to.
The only way AI is going away is if a giant solar flare fries everything. Instead of pretending it's a self-solving problem to justify sitting and waiting, act to regulate it.
heroesblood
If what you said happened the component market would at least somewhat stabilize. Consumers can't dent the market like corporations.
RayMC
The entire market would collapse, so I think component prices would still be screwed for some time.
MenloPart
I'm always trying to figure out things.
I don't have friends.
When I ask on-line, even in places specifically for people to get help on these subjects, either I'm trolled or ignored.
So, out of desperation, I ask an LLM, and it always gets stuff wrong.
It is so consistently wrong that it seems intentional as if its sole purpose is to waste our time.
etherbunny41
That is not The American Way. The American Way is to complain and make memes about it until someone else fixes the problem.
crazyspelling
I'd laugh, except I'm too busy crying because this is exactly accurate.
VonSnootingham
I don't think anyone's like, "No, EVERY Clanker MUST be wiped from existence!" We just don't want all our money and water going to this shit
VonSnootingham
Like, I don't care if Mrs. Williker is having cyber with Microsoft Sam. I just don't want my taxes funding it while I die of thirst.
LoveSoup
Good idea giant solar flare, let's do that
Spidey209
Yeah. Just like "Fuzzy Logic" which was also going to be in everything and revolutionise the world. Remember fuzzy logic?
PhailRaptor
You know what, I'm gonna go with the solar flare
crazyspelling
Solar Flare 2028.
PhailRaptor
His running mate, Giant Meteor, has kind of an extreme healthcare plan. But you can't argue with results!
bekkayya
i mean yeah regulate it or whatever but its absolutely propped up. people only want to use it because the cost per token to them is basically 100% subsidized. even with your own a100 gpu all the goodies that make it good are only there because of investor money thats running out. we'll see if they can goad the military into propping them up after it runs out
CheesecakePi
Nobody realistically expects AI to be wiped from existence, the bubble bursting and the implosion of the companies proliferating it will likely be sufficient.
koopaya
No. That will only do what the .com era bust did, which is break up the existing players and pave the way for others to fill gaps. What is different about AI from the other fads mentioned in the post that already died is that they didn't do work for companies. And while many companies lack the talent and resources to implement AI successfully, many are AND that barrier to entry will continually decrease as time goes on.
LLMs aren't vanishing unfortunately. Like the internet, society must adapt.
StarmineRendezvous
Which historically just trims the fat and consolidates the ecosystem, at the cost of the public footing the bill economically.
Soggybathroomsock
Yeah, that really did a number on the internet too, didn't it? After the .com bubble, never heard about it again.
RayMC
Sufficient for what? You think the people who've developed dependance on GPT will suddenly undevelop that dependance?
JarethCutestory
They would have to if OpenAI implodes. And they aren’t doing so well…
PhailRaptor
Sadly, that's not the case. The behavioral pattern has been learned, and the paradigm shifted. You have CEOs asking Chat GPT how they can get out of fulfilling payouts from contracts because their in-house council told them there wasn't a way. You have AIs managing warehouse inventories hallucinating deliveries that never occurred, only to be discovered when the item(s) aren't actually in the warehouse.
Getting away from AI is going to be a long and painful process.
LordAndSaviourBirdJesus
This just in: people who used to be stupid before AI, are still stupid after AI.
RayMC
… no, they literally wouldn't. A smaller company without the lofty promises or ambitions would come up to fill the void. There are so many open models out there to choose from.
Dracology
I tried to explain this to somebody on bluesky that it wasn't as simple as the companies failing or stopping data centers because of how its very possible to run things locally. That the giant power draw is because of how many people its serving at once and it being optimized for response time rather than power saving. Maaaaan that did not go over well I almost felt like starting a new account just to distance myself from the hate and drama I got for it.
bekkayya
the massive cost is partially because of precompute and pattern matching searches, like you said to optimize for speed. even when everybody can get a100's from failing datacenters, having to wait minutes for the model to start spitting out tokens isnt going to be most people's wheelhouse.
Dracology
I think a lot of people would get used to it rather quickly once they realize they no longer have to pay anyone for the service
bekkayya
if most people dont even want to put in the effort to install their own gpu or switch to linux, the hump of having to fuck with custom drivers, gpus with no video out, agi temperatures, etc, is going to be nearly insurmountable. the amount of help (read: money) to make the process smooth for people right now really cant be overstated
JohnSmithterms
Ai is 100% here to stay. Ive built software for 20 years. We are fucking cooked and we need to regulate this shit fucking yesterday. I can make video of anyone doing and saying anything and its insanely difficult to detect. We are toast.
SuperfluousMeh
Anyone else remember Juicero? L M A O 😂
teardropivyyearofthetiger
I asked for instructions on how to download a specific report from Salesforce today- my colleague said “I dunno, ask Copilot”
I was stunned.
SnowpersonHitInTheFaceWithALackOfCreativity
Wait so what's the argument here? AI, as a concept, will become obsolete? Is anybody actually that detached from how the world works in 2026?
yokwe
I think they are referring to the extreme and stupid pump and dump AI companies.
tonehoundsmoser9
Don't you blaspheme Windows Phone. Still a better base OS than a certain iProduct I could name. If only other companies had been bribed to make apps for it...
throwaway12345432
My Lumia 920 was by far my favorite phone I've ever owned
DarthHypno
I still miss the Microsoft band. Best smart watch ever. Not only did it have heartbeat and UV index. It also actually allowed you to text back on your wrist something no other watch has done to this day
Kats8652
https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1anNzY25xZHVwYXAxdzRxY29zMW9uanpjMzFoenRtbDFmenRpNzNsbyZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/ReBGGJtbXrjbQJwByP/200w.webp
DOcelot1
Excellent phone in its early iterations
RayMC
I came here to say the same thing. Even though I'm using an iPhone haha. It was a great platform.
dashers
I used Windows Mobile for ages before the smartphone revolution. Sure it was stylus focused because the screens then generally weren't capacitive. But it was more accurate. I liked that just like my computer, I could download and install software as I pleased. The essentials were generally free, and you could largely do whatever you wanted. We then got app stores, with adverts and everything costing and limitations on what you could do.
JohnnyricoMC
With Windows Phone 7, the paid apps were outrageously expensive, Microsoft took ages to implement features it lacked vs Android&iOS, actual OS updates were few and far between. Microsoft constantly does this: launch something with ambitious chest thumping but little actually following through on improving it. The Metro UI was really the only thing it really had going for it. WP8 was a bit better but the reputation damage was already done.
TORQD
I still miss my little HTC Win8 phone 🙁 It was never a distraction *precisely* because no one wrote apps for it
DOcelot1
HTC had the best Win Phones
UNHchabo
Microsoft was arrogant about how well Windows Phone was going to do, but I genuinely enjoyed their marketing campaign surrounded the design philosophy of "you pick up your phone, do what you need, then put it back down".
On the other hand though, using a web browser on Android you're inundated with popups to "please use our app instead", while using a web browser on Windows Phone they would be like "oh, I guess this is your only option". That was a nice bonus to its lack of popularity. :)
BananaForScaIe
I was a softie at the time, and I don't remember any arrogance, more like desperation? I wasn't on the WP team, but we worked with it a bunch on my team, so I'm not an expert by any stretch.
UNHchabo
Maybe this was the idea of someone in marketing rather than the product team, but the funeral for the iPhone seemed a bit arrogant.
https://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-iphone-funeral-2010-9
KatInTheCorner
I mean, I think all of them know it's a pump and dump scheme like every other flash in the pan tech development the last 5 years. A bunch of bros making a quick buck by convincing their dad's friends and frat brothers with whom they share secrets of mutual destruction to fund their vanity projects.
Dracology
Honestly I dunno. I feel like it depends on which type of AI were talking about. Asking it for answers to questions is always dicey but people are addicted to it. It might die off because its unreliable. Art generation? Honestly not sure. The quality keeps going up and its getting harder to tell it from human art with every week. 2D image to 3D model translation? Surprisingly good at it as it turns out, another year and it might be invaluable to some industries.
KatInTheCorner
This is one of the most devastatingly depressing things I've ever heard. Being excited we will be able to replace actual artists with AI is one of the most dystopian concepts on the planet. It boggles my mind anyone would be excited by it. It's not invaluable to the industry, it's cheap for the people who are already rich. Don't get it twisted.
Dracology
I think you underestimate just how desired 2D to 3D translation is even from artists. It cuts down a ton on busy work giving more time for actually fun stuff. AI Re-topology is something I've seen a lot of 3D artists want too.
KatInTheCorner
Yeah, the artists who don't understand that they are essentially training their own obsolescence. They don't want to do the actual work of their job so they are willing to train AI to do it for them, thus completely replacing them and eliminating the need for their job entirely. If you don't actually want to do the WORK of being a painter or a writer, you just want to produce a sellable product, choose a different fucking job.
Dracology
Dude you really need to step back and think about the stuff your saying. Art involves a lot of different steps and people have a lot of different processes. If someone wants to skip having to model out a dumb one off prop for a scene or spend hours looking at modeling sites to finally find it and find out it costs 10 goddamn dollars... who can actually blame them. There is a lot of tedious busywork that modelers just do. not. want. to. spend. time. on.
Dracology
Also an aside while I was in no way talking about replacing artists entirely it should be noted that one of the most iconic utopias in fiction literally did just that. Replicators got rid of cooking except for fun. The Holodeck eliminated art except as a hobby.