I've been fooled a time or two but this is ridiculous. I've seen this so many times. People just want to be on the winning side, to hell with right, wrong, logic and math. Come on people do something for Granny and the kids.
Not to nitpick, but undocumented immigrants are probably closer to 3 - 4% of the people in the US.
I get he's trying to make a thru-line here but the real number is higher by enough that the right can point to this comment and say he doesn't know what he's talking about, with the facts on THEIR side.
Better to say "Maybe 3%" and low-ball it, that way MAGA will be the ones splitting hairs if they try to say it's higher. Dems don't get to lie or spin facts for rhetoric like MAGA do.
In all honesty, most of these people work hard and are like any other normal Joe, in many ways they deserve residence and sorting their conditions out, heck they deserve a path to citizenship, in many ways they deserve citizenship more than any far right moron
Yes, but that's not what I'm arguing. I'm saying the left doesn't get a pass on factual accuracy like the right does. It's total bullshit, but it's the way it is.
You can make a different argument, like the one you make about the value of immigrants, or you can rephrase the argument to be accurate enough, but any mistake will get fact checked and paraded as evidence that Dems are the one lying. Even though the best Dem candidates make mistakes about 10% as often as MAGA candidates lie.
Oh you mean the secret six gender Trans monster Tallerico? Dallas here.. The dipshits never get a chance to hear Tallericos message and make good decisions.. They all think they are dying on the hill of stopping Trans surgery in schools and that they deserve credit because they are paying more for food and gas to fight this evil.
50.1% for puppies, 49.8 for all day diarrhea. As long as you have a R next to your name it doesn't matter your policies. People are brainwashed and Dems don't do enough to counter the fire hose of lies from the right
Yup, everyone loves to concede when it comes to sports, even though the scientific data is very clear at this point. And once you concede sports, the door is wide open for bathrooms, gender affirming care for kids, trans existence in public, banning hrt. They always start with sports.
Yeah same. The party leaders really need it hammered into their head that this, besides being demonstrably unethical and trashy, is a losing strategy and a deeply stupid thing to do when you are running from office. Even if you are completely poison brained on the "pragmatism" narrative it is just a stupid strategy.
From a moral standpoint its fucked up. Could be playing it for votes. It is Texas after all. Or maybe it is what he believes. Either way I don't agree with it.
My guy this is in Texas. He literally has to do that in order to win. He's clearly the best choice and it's not even close considering the other option is a fascist.
Running to the right has literally never convinced a single right winger of anything. They are still saying he wants to push trans surgery and if anything they just think he is lieing now. At least when you stand ground you can have some control over the narrative and you don't shoot your allies. This is a bad and stupid strategy and we really need to learn that lesson because we have lost elections trying to pursue fictional voters while spiting actual voters.
I'm only gonna say this one more time and you can either choose to learn and grow from this interaction or not, I can't be fucked either way.
This is not about convincing the hard right. This is about winning moderate votes. And in Texas, you simply have to acknowledge that not everyone is willing to embrace leftist ideology. Signed, a leftist who just voted for 2 progressives in my own state where they can actually win.
I'm going to give you the same chance to learn and grow from a leftist who grew up in deep red rural county - the voter you are imagining and how they interact with politics does not exist. This does not gain you moderates. Moderates see this as disingenuous and weak. Moderates do not need and are not looking to agree with everything a politician believes. Rural folks loved Bernie. They loved some of his ideas but most of all they loved that he was honest and had integrity. You do yourself no 1
RobertAG25772
Establishment Dems, take note!
Bundalicious
This is why Krasnov had his interviews banned from TV.
Iblamemyparentstoo
ThatGuyFromJustSouthOfTheMiddleOfNowhere
ThatGuyFromJustSouthOfTheMiddleOfNowhere
nachosyndicate
God, I hope he wins.
CouldntCakeLess
BeaverOnFire
Shawnofavitch
I've been fooled a time or two but this is ridiculous. I've seen this so many times. People just want to be on the winning side, to hell with right, wrong, logic and math. Come on people do something for Granny and the kids.
vaiperu
Keep going, I'm almost there! Quote the scripture, how you would turn over tables in the senate ....
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megalodonburi
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Thewinterisstillhere
So you mean that Republicans, real one, have a chance to have good politicians?
I hope that this message will spread. But I doubt it unfortunately...
IHateApostrophes
Pretty sure Talarico is a dem
daguq
Neo-Nazis are also a minority and they're doing their part.
TheDudzzly
I'm pretty sure that's what Talarico just said
daguq
No, he's talking about the 1% that are the ultra-rich. I am talking about the neo-nazis in the general population.
TheDudzzly
We need a Venn Diagram!
hyperchondriac
Not to nitpick, but undocumented immigrants are probably closer to 3 - 4% of the people in the US.
I get he's trying to make a thru-line here but the real number is higher by enough that the right can point to this comment and say he doesn't know what he's talking about, with the facts on THEIR side.
Better to say "Maybe 3%" and low-ball it, that way MAGA will be the ones splitting hairs if they try to say it's higher. Dems don't get to lie or spin facts for rhetoric like MAGA do.
HummingBirrb
In all honesty, most of these people work hard and are like any other normal Joe, in many ways they deserve residence and sorting their conditions out, heck they deserve a path to citizenship, in many ways they deserve citizenship more than any far right moron
hyperchondriac
Yes, but that's not what I'm arguing. I'm saying the left doesn't get a pass on factual accuracy like the right does. It's total bullshit, but it's the way it is.
You can make a different argument, like the one you make about the value of immigrants, or you can rephrase the argument to be accurate enough, but any mistake will get fact checked and paraded as evidence that Dems are the one lying. Even though the best Dem candidates make mistakes about 10% as often as MAGA candidates lie.
CyberHexx
If you're in Texas and you don't vote Talarico, you're helping the Billionaires destroy America.
MadamPuddifoot
You're also not on this website
TexMexHex
Ill be there to cast my vote. Bringing 5 first-timers with me.
Nbiakro
*world
Uselesstoy
Oh you mean the secret six gender Trans monster Tallerico? Dallas here.. The dipshits never get a chance to hear Tallericos message and make good decisions.. They all think they are dying on the hill of stopping Trans surgery in schools and that they deserve credit because they are paying more for food and gas to fight this evil.
Bonevi
Peak stupidity.
duktayp
His opponent is a corrupt, incompetent, adulterer, who paid off his ex to stay quiet during election season. In a sane world it would be a no-brainer
darthnerdus6236
That's enough to go all the way to the White House these days.
Alexap30
But my 5k...?
Sebastopol140
Yep... in a sane world.
Nbiakro
In this world, the voters are the no-brainers
pelon365
50.1% for puppies, 49.8 for all day diarrhea. As long as you have a R next to your name it doesn't matter your policies. People are brainwashed and Dems don't do enough to counter the fire hose of lies from the right
mesquiteTex
He also took his MARRIED mistress on a trip on the 4th of July, the HOLIEST of all days to be American.
Cranbananarama
So, the game is rigged in the corrupt one's favor?
newsguycraigevans
In texas? Yes. Yes it is.
hogeyegrex
It’s fucking Texas. About as far away from a sane world as you can imagine.
pandemicmodedad
We sre talking about Texas. The state that keeps voting republican even though they are being ruined by them.
Sebastopol140
... like most republican states.
Imalwaysready
A lot of us are trying to turn the ship. We’re as baffled by it as anyone.
rowzdowr
I'm kind of disappointed with Talarico after his comments on trans kids in sports:
https://www.texastribune.org/2026/09/09/james-talarico-trans-sports-reversal-lgbtq-rights-texas-us-senate-race/
Really feels like he's trying to play the center, and that always goes great for progress.
IHateApostrophes
Yup, everyone loves to concede when it comes to sports, even though the scientific data is very clear at this point. And once you concede sports, the door is wide open for bathrooms, gender affirming care for kids, trans existence in public, banning hrt. They always start with sports.
CliffWestern
Yeah same. The party leaders really need it hammered into their head that this, besides being demonstrably unethical and trashy, is a losing strategy and a deeply stupid thing to do when you are running from office. Even if you are completely poison brained on the "pragmatism" narrative it is just a stupid strategy.
Alavar
From a moral standpoint its fucked up. Could be playing it for votes. It is Texas after all. Or maybe it is what he believes. Either way I don't agree with it.
m6514309
He was pretty firmly on the other side of the line like... six months ago, before he won over Crockett.
TheWhiteBarry
My guy this is in Texas. He literally has to do that in order to win. He's clearly the best choice and it's not even close considering the other option is a fascist.
CliffWestern
Running to the right has literally never convinced a single right winger of anything. They are still saying he wants to push trans surgery and if anything they just think he is lieing now. At least when you stand ground you can have some control over the narrative and you don't shoot your allies. This is a bad and stupid strategy and we really need to learn that lesson because we have lost elections trying to pursue fictional voters while spiting actual voters.
TheWhiteBarry
I'm only gonna say this one more time and you can either choose to learn and grow from this interaction or not, I can't be fucked either way.
This is not about convincing the hard right. This is about winning moderate votes. And in Texas, you simply have to acknowledge that not everyone is willing to embrace leftist ideology. Signed, a leftist who just voted for 2 progressives in my own state where they can actually win.
CliffWestern
I'm going to give you the same chance to learn and grow from a leftist who grew up in deep red rural county - the voter you are imagining and how they interact with politics does not exist. This does not gain you moderates. Moderates see this as disingenuous and weak. Moderates do not need and are not looking to agree with everything a politician believes. Rural folks loved Bernie. They loved some of his ideas but most of all they loved that he was honest and had integrity. You do yourself no 1
CliffWestern
Favors when you sell out your allies and make voters question what you really believe. People won't be fooled by his position here. 2/2