That moment when you realize the guys who built the wall you're actively watching collapse also built the wall below you. ... and there's people filming in your direction from across the pit.
My understanding is the original contractor decided rather than drive piles into the bedrock they decided it would be cheaper to just fill the garbage Manhattan floats on with a lot of concrete. That shifted while building because it was floating concrete filled garbage. But instead of stopping they kept building. It's now condemned without being finished, but can't be torn down.
I find it hilarious that an Italian company is involved in the construction of a tower that is leaning because of different settlement of the soil. And they even tried to solve the problem by casting concrete unevenly. All the same issues the leaning Tower of Pisa shows.
Then you have a new high and low one. Cycle repeats. Eventually, you are left with the middle one, which you can either also throw out or accept that being both cancels things out.
lol as someone on the design side of public work I wish we could do that. Or at place the delta (or some percentage) between the high bid and low bid ON TOP of the project contingency.
C'mon now, it's 2026! Best practice is to no-bid contract to your son's nonexistent at massive upcharge, then open a 6 figure betting pool on it going over budget by at least 100%, plan the project reviews for after your contract or term, then spend the next few years blaming your successor to force them to cancel the whole thing and fork up the cancellation fee while neither you or your son have ever so much as seen a hammer in real life.
I review the bid scope from the highest and compare to the bid scope of the lowest. The lowest almost always misses something. I go with the lowest that matched the scope and specs.
No, get the highest and lowest, then an assessment for what can go wrong. Add that to the lowest bid then explain how the highest bid will save money and time.
If you punch in the variables in an AI agent.... then you get... no rebars, and concrete mixed with mayo. Cmon. Been doing this for long enough to see a low bidder and if the difference is more than 20% from median, you have a lawsuit and, hopefully no, dead people.
I prefer going with the person that presents all the possible problems up front. And I mean real problems. Because nothing will make me kick you to the curb faster than saying "if I can get my guys".
As a geologic engineer, it looks like a temporary wall during construction. Pretty common technique. But obviously not up to the job of holding back that terribly consolidated soil. I don't see any kind of reinforcement like rebar or mesh, which is normally used.
Those are tiebacks, they go orthagonal into the soil to anchor the wall. Similar to rock bolts, but for soils or highly unconsolidated rock. Rebar/mesh would be inside the shotcrete
Pfffftit
Someone was taking one
Massive shite
HighSorcerer
"I was watching, I saw the whole thing. First it started to fall over, and then it fell over."
E12IK
I’m not sure I’d be so trusting of being at the adjacent side filming. I assume their wall was made to the same standards and when one goes. Whoop.
notsurewhattocallthis
It's not wall it's cracked up to be
Sevulturus
Dude in the portapotty dropped a big deuce.
barbarian818
I *really* hope someone got Dave out of the portapotty.
pipatron
I like how people just keep walking up there
OneUniverse
I like at the end where he realizes, where he is standing could be next.
Batman1702
Coming soon videos from the white trash house via trump
ElvenTroll1121
Landlord take heed
Hissyfitter
Amazed the cameraman kept filming - assuming the wall atop which he stood was of similar build quality :-o
notifybay151
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InspectorA5
That moment when you realize the guys who built the wall you're actively watching collapse also built the wall below you. ... and there's people filming in your direction from across the pit.
StabbyMcMurder
Imagine being a worker and using one of those portapotties right then.
kraeftig
I always find it so fascinating that if you're on a large enough scale, particulate solids flow mostly like they are liquids.
isetprettygirlsonfire
Geologic engineer, can confirm. As does what most people think of as solid rock. But over time it can actually deform plasticly
Recursiv3
Boots theory of economics baby
Rangar
Yeah, this is how the more expensive price tag becomes the most affordable.
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
there's a sweet spot somewhere between "spending less to waste more" and "you better be laundering"
Pulger
The White House ballroom's gonna need a few more billion dollars.
intercitydude
They're not expecting to be paid anyway
Alphee99
Lowest bidder strikes again.
TheMayorOfTittyCity
While I appreciate someone filming this, I can't say I would stand at the edge of a wall that's actively crumbling into a giant bottomless pit.
Type17
It's clearly not bottomless, that broken concrete and soil clearly landed on something after their fall of tens of metres...
TheMayorOfTittyCity
Ok that was hyperbolic. There is a bottom, but it's deep enough you would be dead when you reached it.
Type17
That’s why I mentioned tens of metres, you’d be as dead as Trump’s sense of duty to his country.
boxak
“Why do we have so much leftover rebar, guys?”
lonosham
@AlphaStructural
kaijuuGold
they lost their christmas bonuses
Marsupialmessiah
Did they just poured dry cement in there instead of well mixed concrete? No rebars?
hfctom
Indeed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/161_Maiden_Lane
Nim449
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7052555,-74.004764,3a,60y,11.9h,146.54t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sJYVh8u70ahH28-SxPT8Xvg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-56.535809276022405%26panoid%3DJYVh8u70ahH28-SxPT8Xvg%26yaw%3D11.903370512289923!7i16384!8i8192?authuser=0&entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDUyNy4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D
jankyupeblik
And this is just built so people can not live in those condos but store their money in them as a property instead of banks, right?
hfctom
My understanding is the original contractor decided rather than drive piles into the bedrock they decided it would be cheaper to just fill the garbage Manhattan floats on with a lot of concrete. That shifted while building because it was floating concrete filled garbage. But instead of stopping they kept building. It's now condemned without being finished, but can't be torn down.
ironymus
I find it hilarious that an Italian company is involved in the construction of a tower that is leaning because of different settlement of the soil. And they even tried to solve the problem by casting concrete unevenly.
All the same issues the leaning Tower of Pisa shows.
taez555
I like to imagine there was a dude in one of the porta-shitters when this happened.
ParaspriteHugger
I think last night's chili is what caused it all
68mano
Yeah, " Hey, Buddy, you might wanna pinch that loaf off and gtf outta there!"
BIC777
I bet he shit himself.
ps238principal
#1 https://mariobartel.com/2025/04/30/what-caused-concrete-shoring-wall-to-collapse-at-a-coquitlam-construction-site/
an0therthr0waway
"Nobody was injured..." ALWAYS glad to see those words in such articles!
jankyupeblik
https://tricitiesdispatch.com/shoring-wall-collapse-punched-anchor-void/
BarryTheCyborg
So it sounds like they got too greedy and dug too deep if they had that many issues with water intrusion.
thefeckamisigningupwithfacebook
I told them Moria was too risky...
alcamar
Dirt that loose there was no compacting done at all
BebeJeebies
Why you put it twice?
shadowmaster004
To make a point! ☝️😲
cosinewave
Because it is the truth
TrueLegateDamar
Because they had to get the papers, get the papers.
4sambucas
yes
Jaqdakloun
So you can see it again
BananaForScaIe
We pay respect to the dead here. (the wall)
guitarfourtysix
because there was so much concrete evidence.
lenomdeplume
Mockingbirb
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Huor
Damn, that was supposed to be a different video!
colinstu
where's the other video? link?
ProperWeirdo
One is standard, the other is metric
TurnsOut42WasASlightMiscalculation
And yet both failed. Guess it wasn't a units issue
prosper020
isetprettygirlsonfire
Shakes head in geologic engineer. Looks like loose sand.
isetprettygirlsonfire
Also I don't se any sirt of reinforcement in that shotcrete. Usually wire mesh is used on these sorts of temporary shoring walls
4chanrefugee
Bro, it's a proprietary composite called „shitcrete“ by the time it fails to cure to full strength, the check cleared and I'm already in Tahiti...
isetprettygirlsonfire
I have worked with that developer before
MapleSyrupMafia
Are you shore about that?
4chanrefugee
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isetprettygirlsonfire
Yeah buddy!! https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1bGczNGh0eTdueGlzMHEydmVoYmQ5ejEydWJjbWJ2dzJmN2F1Z3o5OCZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/XX2V5FS0TlBrq/200w.webp
cosinewave
The best practice is to throw out the high bid and the low bid and work with those in the middle to make your decision.
rbudrick
Then you have a new high and low one. Cycle repeats. Eventually, you are left with the middle one, which you can either also throw out or accept that being both cancels things out.
darktrout
lol as someone on the design side of public work I wish we could do that. Or at place the delta (or some percentage) between the high bid and low bid ON TOP of the project contingency.
Flodos
C'mon now, it's 2026! Best practice is to no-bid contract to your son's nonexistent at massive upcharge, then open a 6 figure betting pool on it going over budget by at least 100%, plan the project reviews for after your contract or term, then spend the next few years blaming your successor to force them to cancel the whole thing and fork up the cancellation fee while neither you or your son have ever so much as seen a hammer in real life.
jbrightmans
I review the bid scope from the highest and compare to the bid scope of the lowest. The lowest almost always misses something. I go with the lowest that matched the scope and specs.
derpman4k
No, get the highest and lowest, then an assessment for what can go wrong. Add that to the lowest bid then explain how the highest bid will save money and time.
Ez business decision
Marsupialmessiah
If you punch in the variables in an AI agent.... then you get... no rebars, and concrete mixed with mayo. Cmon. Been doing this for long enough to see a low bidder and if the difference is more than 20% from median, you have a lawsuit and, hopefully no, dead people.
electronicbovine
As long as it's structural mayo there shouldn't be a problem
Marsupialmessiah
Mayocrete! Concremayo! Reinforced with bamboo chopsticks! Environmentally friendly!
FoxySpirit
Yeah, my system would also throw out the low bid. Definitely too many corners cut to make that happen. Always.
Asadsadsadclown
I prefer going with the person that presents all the possible problems up front. And I mean real problems. Because nothing will make me kick you to the curb faster than saying "if I can get my guys".
TheDoctorCrankenstein
Yea. Price means jack shit. Showing the expertise and knowledge, being straightforward and upfront, does wonders to make the price worth the purchase.
satanslittleposter
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VJtV2UkU-Fk
SuperSaiyanYamcha
satanslittleposter
JakSandrow
I knew *exactly* what this would be before clicking, and I was not disappointed.
satanslittleposter
Good. The second I read '"if I can get my guys"' this was the first thing on my mind.
trinxter
The wall looks like crap to begin with even before the crack.
zOriginal
djj25
Nice, no rebar
pres465
Like they painted on the concrete. Sheesh. I wouldn't stand anywhere near that edge.
MapleSyrupMafia
Bondo turns gray once it's dry!
isetprettygirlsonfire
Shotcrete and tiebacks. Effective for temporary wall when designed properly for soil conditions.
isetprettygirlsonfire
As a geologic engineer, it looks like a temporary wall during construction. Pretty common technique. But obviously not up to the job of holding back that terribly consolidated soil. I don't see any kind of reinforcement like rebar or mesh, which is normally used.
HowlingRollercoaster2
Are the neighboring buildings in any danger?
isetprettygirlsonfire
Perhaps, I can't really tell much from this video, even how far away. But it definitely is a concern
ProfessorBanesworth
I'm seeing things sproinging after the soil falls out - looks like rebar to me.
isetprettygirlsonfire
Those are tiebacks, they go orthagonal into the soil to anchor the wall. Similar to rock bolts, but for soils or highly unconsolidated rock. Rebar/mesh would be inside the shotcrete
ProfessorBanesworth
Ah, yeah, I just found the article someone linked and they explained some of that.