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#marvel #theory #loki #mcu
Jan 27, 2019 1:15 PM
YoGurlStella
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#marvel #theory #loki #mcu
Muzzyslapper
You need to go outside
shartz
AlmightyThor117
fencer1964
chekirila
Who are all those people?..
TanstaaflTovarisch
I've always enjoyed fan theories of stories, but I find myself incredibly intolerant of 'going too far' with it. This is just dumb.
MissSiesta
Film isn't correct according to the stories, thus this is a stupid conversation to have, really.
uploaderzero
Saying that an adaptation is or isn't "correct according to the stories" is meaningless. It's an adaptation, not a quiz.
MissSiesta
Do they make major changes in movies about Jesus too?
PwnageHobo
Playing mind games right from the start
SharkShanker
No, I don’t think they thought of that when making these movies
uploaderzero
Correct. Q: Why are Loki and Hela's designs similar? A: Because they draw heavily from the comic book designs, where Hela is Loki's daughter
pokiisthicc
Fucking calm down mate
MisterD90
Or he saw Odin and didn't want to be a blue negro in a white family
BigFatDan
Yes.... now what?
youreverdaygeek
I've seen this, but smart theory.
sukkerfar
Am I the only one who doesn't think they look "extremely similar"? They look nothing alike apart from long black hair. Maybe it's just me..
Mokelzwerg
Also... just actors
sukkerfar
Sure but if they did want to show like that, I guess it would be possible to find actors that can be made to look like each other.
SpookyNerd
Hollywood does that all the time: they cast ppl who look a certain way. I keep getting some of the actors mixed up cuz they look so similar.
fluxual
But Tumblr users made a connection so it must be real
Brocktooon
I'm thinking they should have just let Hela rule Asgard. She had a rightful claim. Could've been useful against Thanos.
MarikaOniki
I mean, what I got from her own words, was that ruling Asgard wasn't the issue. Wanting to conquer *everything else* was.
Brocktooon
I guess the inevitability of Ragnarok cancels pretty much every option anyway.
ReverseTrapTsukasa
1/ The scene was more Loki forcing unwanted memories to the top of Scrapper 142's mind & wasn't explicitly reading those memories. I do like
ReverseTrapTsukasa
2/ this alternate interpretation of those events. It basically says that Odin still loved Hella despite what she turned into as he did Loki.
TheJiziason
what if Hela had a baby with Laufey and Odin took that baby in to protect it from the nasty truth of it's real mother
soyunfrikinburrito
Loki ... son of Kratos?
7grims
so what ? ur also assuming baby-loki was hella smart for immediately strategise a manipulation by looking similar
retgarr
What's with people thinking there are a thousand carefully hidden layers in these movies?
RSB1292
This is all pretty fucken weird when you know nothing about the comic lore and just a few fragments of Norse mythology.
deadknightdistrict8
No..Thor is adopted. Don't wreck ur brain.
Hekinsieden
but that's just a theory... A FILM THEORY thanks for watching.
YouGonnaLearnTodayy
In norse theory Hell is one of Lokis children with Angabotha
CrizzyX
mythology that the Thor comic is based on...Loki is an actual son of Odin as a result of an affair between Odin and a frost Giantess
Geckuro
also in mythlogy, Hel is lokis daughter, not his sister.
CrizzyX
??
Beardedsmile
I mean....they are just actors...right?
Realmatanteelise
Neither of which looks like that in real life, so your point is fucking useless in this conversation.
CorneliusCornwall
While you are technically correct, shut the fuck up and let people have their fun.
thefatlonelyjew
It's a little known fact but the whole movie was actually improvised by Robert Downey Jr! Wow!
ISaidSarcastically
Are they though
BallerinaDalekForeverSpinningAndSpinningItsTragicYouMofos
1/ Yes, but fun fact casting has its intentionalities. The producers, writers, and director coordinate with the casting director...
BallerinaDalekForeverSpinningAndSpinningItsTragicYouMofos
2/ and creative nuances like this work themselves in. Good writers and directors don't tell you everything.
HeraldOfTheBadger
Benadryl Cuckolding is a real wizard at least
NotABadLookingNarcissist
*Master of the mystic arts
HeraldOfTheBadger
Thor and Stark both said wizard!
NotABadLookingNarcissist
Worth noting. But Butterscotch Cabbagepatch def self identifies as a master of the mystic arts.
FecalDeGallo
JamJarre
Never let stupidity go unchallenged
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daedkro
Overthinked.
FecalDeGallo
Overthunked
macarronchacarron
YEAH got him on that spelling error! Good job!
triumphintx
Nope, the casting directory really outdid themself and got the actual children of Odin for the film.
HowToBeSuccessfulAsaSerialKiller
I mean, I could definitely see a trickster god like Loki doing that for a laugh.
ASuccessfulFailure
Kind of like the fake moon landing being filmed on scene?
clawthewolf
So... Only Thor then? (In myth Loki is Odins blood brother after saving his life, not son, and Hel is one of Lokis few humanoid children)
palper2112
I like that you used humanoid. Hel is a terrible rotting monster.
clawthewolf
Well, all is says is that half her body is dead, the rest of it is normal. He'll, some versions doesn't say half is dead at all, just dark
dormfive
I thought it was moreso Odin's power changing him. Their mother didn't teach Loki her magic til later.
SocialPriapism
Yes, in which case it makes sense Odin would make Loki look like his other child.
ArrestedDevelopmentNarrator
This deserves a reply not just because I wont be taking the time to look it up. This seems like a valid point if it’s true
LuminoZero
It's in a deleted scene of Thor 2. Frigga says to Thor. "You and your father cast large shadows. I had hoped that by sharing my gifts...
LuminoZero
with Loki that he could find some Sun for himself."
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ABluntForce
I bet you'd hate it if people could just change their skin color at will, too.
Nintend064
Yeah, he'll really fit in and no one will question if he's really the king's son being blue and all.
TheDanWithNoName
I think its more, he is a child of our mortal enemies & will be accepted and live if i change him & adopt him.
Screwdizzle
Well, I don't think he's going to carry an Ice Giant baby back to Asgard.
jerner15
Isn't Hela in the comics loki's daughter? So if they wanted Hela to look comic accurate she would have a similar look to loki?
cleetdog101
Maybe its flipflopped in the MCU-maybe Loki is the son Hela had with Laufey? Might also explain Odins compassion for Loki.
PatrickDiomedes
yeah, but she's Odin's daughter in the movie
Gorion1929
In myth she's Loki's daughter, in the comics Loki is responsible for her in a roundabout way but isn't exactly a real parent figure.
NinjablazerZero
She is Loki's daughter in the comics as well. Comics tried to keep as close to mythology as they could mostly.
WiqidBritt
There's an issue of Journey into Mystery where Loki writes her into existence, I don't know if that's considered being her parent.
NinjablazerZero
Well, she certsinly veiws him as her father and he treats her like her daughter, so I would say parent applies just fine.
Gorion1929
I'd argue there's a differentiation between parent and creator that maybe doesn't matter as much to gods as readers.
NinjablazerZero
There is, however their relationship is that of father/ daughter, so both apply, making the differentiation irrelevant in this specific case
whatsupdoccy
Hela was also Loke's daughter in norse mythology
Imgurisweird
Hel was Loki's daughter, not Hela
SumptuousMeat
The real hero here. Wish they'd use her real damn name, but apparently the Christians have a copyright or some shit on the word lol
MyLifeIsPotat0
...Loke? Jk, I’ve been spelling my cats name Lokï since I got her 1/2
MyLifeIsPotat0
pure black female but it you know the origin tongue and spelling I would love to know
whatsupdoccy
In the old norse language, he was called Loki, but in Norwegian nowadays, he's called Loke.
FredrikNyberg
Same in Sweden. Loke = Loki. Oden = Odin (Wednesday).
ForestRed
In the Younger Futhark I and E is the same rune as well. Neat stuff.
Agunslingerborn
She breaks Loki out basically from Hell after Odin and Thor cast him down for a dick move.
TheGalacticLeprechaunwithtinynipples
"a dick move" was killing the one guy that everybody agreed on not to kill.
theyar
And the wolf was his son.
clawthewolf
Mmh, and Loki was Thors adoptive uncle, not brother. (Loki saved Odins life and as such became his bloodbrother)
Kbantar
Loki's parentage is highly variable in myth, which does suit a trickster god.
clawthewolf
Never heard of him being the son of Odin though. Loki being a Jotunn is a pretty open thing in the stories, he doesn't hide it
SharkShanker
And in the comics
rdhao
Also half a corpse. Happy they didnt put THAT on the big screen.
LionFromTheNorth
It differs, sometimes depicted half live, half corpse, others just half young, half old
DamageAndJoy
Here’s a nice chart to help
nothlit2
But wheres Natalie Portman?
punknoodles0
In my basement
djberight
iWillUnleashTheEntirePayload
Odins great grandpa is a cow?
HiddenSanity
It's a great chart to link when someone claims that the Japanese are by far the weirdest.
samwyze
I don't know, Japan being ejaculated into existence is pretty frickin' weird.
HiddenSanity
I'm just saying, there's competition.
ilovebirds
Now I have a hankerin’ to see The Ring Cycle this season.
cliffjumper83
Aegir seems fun
FloresDelCaribe
I'm sorry but this is the marvels Universe this chart has no relevance
DamageAndJoy
ACKTUALLY - mcu goofed the origins but marvel comics didn’t / besides post fox merger mcu may fix that with the loki series
Kokoryta
What Loki series?
DamageAndJoy
Disney+ or whatever it’ll be called announced a Loki series & Vision/Scarlet Witch one
Kokoryta
Really? Huh
The5lacker
You must be fun at all those parties you aren’t invited to.
Owlberightback
Loki fucked his aunt and a horse lol
LokiOnTheCouch
swefur
Got fucked by a horse, actually. Loki is Sleipner's mother.
LokiOnTheCouch
wolfostrophe
DamageAndJoy
Also I suggest Neil Gaiman’s “Norse Mythology” in audio book format. It’s a great read but a better listen.
secretdpp
Zeus Grants Stupid Wishes and other stories. Is a great mythology book, told through an amusing lense
LookForAnInsultHarder
Little addition to Loki + Horse = Sleipnir, etc. Loki gave birth as a female horse, just to win a bet against a giant.
secretdpp
Was more Odin asking his Brother Loki to do him a solid and cheap ones t on union rates with a giant. The liesmith gave 110%
secretdpp
Cheap out* not cheap ones
LookForAnInsultHarder
took one for the team...
SirFrancisI
ODIN HAD A SON NAMED HODR
ScrewMyVacationPlansIGuess
Fun fact, eth (Ð/ð) makes a th sound
SirFrancisI
HOLD THE DOOR
ihaveaten
I REMEMBER YOU... IN THE MOUNTAINS!
Bobbyr
Ladi dadi, we like to Skadi
jd2061
A lot of those people just kind of appeared, no arrows or anything.
randombrain
"If no ancestors are listed, assume Ymir, giants, and/or no one"
TheFoxyVixen
Zeus, probably.
jd2061
"And/or no one" so they just appeared?
RichardJohnsonTallywhacker
Yeah. Norse mythology is more of a shared universe than a single narrative.