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Just a reminder of when Ivanka had a trauma flashback on camera.
She was giving a tour of her childhood room, laughing and joking about Mötley Crüe posters and attempts at painting, all very lighthearted, then she turns the corner into this space, and this happens.
She is the living embodiment of the Cycle of Abuse: In desperation, she has aligned herself with her abuser, and thus helps perpetuate some the vileness, cruelty, and outright evil that was perpetrated on him. I doubt very much that she abuses her own children, but look at what she has helped to inflict upon the country, and the wider world. Yes, she is *obviously* a victim, but so was her dad; it didn't have to be this way: Some people suffer abuse, and decide to go in the opposite direction, but she chose... Poorly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6FZ5kj3FGo
QueefMalone
ProudAussie
Daddy was her first. Then all his "friends".
LurkingSarcasm
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sindail
I0VE525P00GE
I hate Trump, and yes, he probably diddled her. But I honestly don’t see a “trauma flashback” here.
OhIfIMust
That's fair.
horseman05
OhIfIMust
Just the other day he paused a rambling speech to pant and gush about how much someone in the audience looked like her.
CaptainProcrastinaut
I am not religious. But dear gods, he is one of the inhuman freaks out there that make me wish for a hell that is every nightmare the devil could imagine and let's be real, that isn't even enough
westPAguy
JackHL01
chatawillybilly
The purple fabric thingy on the wall serves as a reminder for her to spread her legs when her daddy enters her room.
Chickenlicker
come on, man. have some class
flordelasantillas
She's a Trump, they have no class so why show any.
MarisFreeborn
Cracking on them for being shitty, fascist, grifting, pathetic excuses for human beings? Fair. Being shitty to one of them for being a victim of sexual abuse? Mediocre.
steelundecided
68th floor? What happens at floor 69?
OhIfIMust
Dunno, especially considering she was on the *5*8th floor.
TheSecondPiewackit
Well considering a lot of buildings pretend the 13th floor doesn't exist...
19marcurious57
Or 67?
StarscreamAndHutch
Trimp and Epstein Eiffel Towered 13yo ivanka in that bed.
sfrinlan
That's super gross, and I'm going to choose not to believe that's true unless there's some kind of evidence. Absolute monsters the both of them, but imagining / inventing all the sick things they could have possibly done is also not a place I think any of us should go.
EroticZombiePants
It's just dark humor. Plus, Epstein was a dealer, and many dealers aren't really users themselves. "Don't get high on your own supply", so to speak.
sfrinlan
It's dark humor, sure, but I can say that IMO, in this time and place, it's in poor taste, and I don't find it amusing. I'm not suggesting that anyone be banned or censored or cancelled, just my thoughts that it's not the place to be right now. Also, Epstein definitely raped children. I think that's widely agreed upon at this point.
StarscreamAndHutch
He was a child rapist too.
karlfrack
How are videos being uploaded? I've tried every few days for weeks and they won't upload.
idrinkcheapbeer
My first thought as well.
ParallelParkingInABurka
Dunno about this one, but so far everyone who posted one said it was one they'd uploaded before the current bug. So I was thinking "oh hey, i have lots of good old video posts, i could go find repost-worthy stuff in those!" - but I'm on Android and AFAIK the only way to do it would be to hide the old posts (losing all the comments in the process) and re-publish them, so i haven't done it.
karlfrack
HMMMMM. It does not allow me to post previously uploaded vids.
OhIfIMust
I tried uploading this a few days ago, and suddenly the vids were there.
ParallelParkingInABurka
Oooh, interesting!
CaptainProcrastinaut
This is the part where I am supposed to say I don't sympathize with the Trumps... except that isn't entirely true.
This girl was abused and fucked up beyond measure. She probably didn't even have her mom to comfort her nor any other member of her family.
DSOSpades
Yes. Sad. Not her fault.
SwampApe75
Detacheddavid
Wasn't that about a migrant child detention center?
OhIfIMust
I think so.
SwampApe75
yeah
ShitIstoleFrom4chan
I'm gonna be real here, and this is probably not gonna go over well but, @OP what the fuck man? Maybe she was abused, maybe not, her dad for sure said creepy shit. But to take a video of someone getting a bit quieter, and psychoanalyze them, diagnose them with abuse trauma and flashbacks, that's fucking creepy as hell, man.
K1n6D0n6
It's a recycled take that's been floating since his first term.
OhIfIMust
There's a lot of context that this fits into, and a lot of people who claim to have been molested and say that her reaction mirrors their own experiences.
I hear what you're saying, and I get it, but I honestly don't think I'm going out on a limb, here.
august32021
My thought exactly, reading a whole lot into a half second of video
ShitIstoleFrom4chan
Right? Like, to me it seems just as likely that she had a bit of a nostalgic moment for her childhood, maybe was thinking of growing up, maybe she got hit by the "I can't believe I'm getting older, I'm not a kid any more" moment when standing in her childhood bedroom. Who knows, right? To psycho-analyize someone over such a short clip is crazy and unethical.
rusrsdude
Yeah, it's creepy how people grasp at straws to try and paint their perspective as the truth. There are several various reasons for why someone's voice could crack or have this.. entire reaction/body language that she's giving off. People here are messed up trying to paint their own false perspectives.
Zange0
I won't say it's good to do this, but there's more than just 'getting a bit quieter' going on in this.
Her voice cracks, she makes a joke and an excuse to not be in here. She starts fiddling with something while her face totally shifts, looking like a rush of bad memories or holding back tears. She's still getting it back together in her answer, and redirects/talks about the upside of the view.
The clip before this she happily showed off everything else in her room, only the bed was the issue.
ShitIstoleFrom4chan
She doesn't make an excuse not to be there. She tells them that she's not actively living in her childhood room any more. You can tell because SHE STAYS THERE TALKING ABOUT IT. And hear me out: How about she gets a bit quieter, because it's HER CHILDHOOD BEDROOM. Maybe she's nostalgic? Maybe she's thinking about getting older? WHO THE HELL KNOWS? To just watch this, and diagnose this woman with having been abused, is creepy as all hell, man.
Zange0
This definitely looks like a trauma reaction and instantly puts me on high alert.
All of this said, this was also the room she was in when her parents were getting divorced. You could say that that was the emotional rush, though I feel the abuse theory is unfortunately closer to the truth.
smitmp02
I mean look I absolutely hate Trump and it could 100% be a possibility that he did something to her, but I'm just gonna say that her reaction could just as easily be a nostalgic one. If she hadn't been in there for 10 years and was talking about all of her childhood treasures, it could have hit her in the feels. Every time I hear the power rangers song I almost cry just because it triggers something in my brain about what it was like to just be a kid and how great things used to be.
ShitIstoleFrom4chan
Well, according to imgur, you might have been molested by Power Rangers! Dumb jokes aside: This is exactly why you don't psycho-analyize someone from a 3 second interview, that they may or may not have filmed 12 times that day. It's INCREDIBLY unethical to do.
sochilln
When all of those bad memories come flooding back.
I wonder what she's reliving at that moment? 🤔
Ircy
I hope it was horrible.
TheOneWhoSucks
You want to blame her for every horrible thing she did and was complicit in during his first term and since, that's absolutely fair. You reduce the situation to victim blaming and hope she was abused as a child, you need to rethink.
sochilln
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Tulayne
I hope you rethink that and come to a different conclusion
Hashbrown123
How do you hope that on a young girl?
Ircy
Is this a rhetorical question? If not: I lost the ability to feel empathy or see humanity in maga people about a year ago. If you want to feel sorry for them I'm not stopping you. Maybe you're right. I have nothing but hatred for them and wish them as much suffering as they are inflicting onto others. I don't care where that suffering comes from.
Hashbrown123
You are literally celebrating a child being raped and hoping it scarred her. You are no better than maga.
Ircy
If after everything maga has done you see me not feeing empathy for them anymore as being the same as them (although I haven't done jack shit to actually hurt anyone). Your idea of being no better than them holds little weight.
OhIfIMust
It's one thing to wish ill of her as an adult, it's quite another to wish ill on her as a child, especially when talking about the very things that helped make her what she is today.
Ircy
My ability to care or see them as human is gone. Not by choice, mind you. I could maybe regain it in therapy but I'm not wasting my time on fixing "not being able to see fascists as human". I will save my compassion for those that wouldn't deny it to me first.
Me wishing her harm or not in the past changes nothing about reality. Me wishing that past harm hurts her now and won't subside until she changes does nothing tangible but give me some twisted and cruel comfort.
meganical
Yeah, I still assume she won’t say anything until after he’s dead and his inheritance has been dealt out. Only then will she publish a “tell-all” about how her father sexually abused her as a child
DVSBSTrD
"Inheritance"
eadanke
Maybe just before the inheritance is doled out if there's any chance her brothers knew or participated and stand to lose their share to her.
MajMalfunction2
I'm not a fan of victim blaming....even for her.
calenti
The maggates would fall on her like the end of a recent movie and tear her apart.
herrcane
I'm not sure, since Jared is just as much a piece of garbage as her father and who knows what's going on there.
Mohareb
Tbh i don't even think so. In the past she could have done so? Now. There will be an insane maga-base ready to make her life hell for the rest of her life if she tells about this
mrthewhitee
Maga will collapse when he dies. It may take a few years but it'll be safe for her to release sooner than you think, imo.
sfrinlan
I'm sure with a thorough education in grifting, it will come out when it's most profitable
ilovetraveler
Interesting take. I could see it going either way. I could see Trump dying, and then everyone who enabled and supported him jumping ship and pretending to change so they don't face repercussions for being a fascist, rapist simp. If that happens and it would be advantageous to disavow Trump, I could see her writing a book.
EroticZombiePants
Yeah, it could go either way with her. Ivanka and Kushner have parlayed the Trump name into a ton of money for themselves during his presidencies, so she likely won't ever have to go the tell-all route for some fast cash. Then again, the grift is embedded so deeply into the family, she might do it anyway out of instinct.
rshini
They also distance themselves from Trump it look like it might hurt them.
EroticZombiePants
Come to think of it, even Eric and Donnie Jr have been quieter lately.