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NonstopRampage
Exactly! When the zombies happen, I'm taking people, tools, food AND information, into the Rockies. Fuck ALL ya'll scavenging in the cities.
warrenwoodworks8888
"the original purpose of a springhouse was to keep the spring water clean by excluding fallen leaves, animals, etc..also for refrigeration"
Apothecarius
"Goddamn Capybara are in the spring again, we gotta do something it. Build a fence, or a shed, or a shack for it."
" The cool-cold spring water would keep food fresh longer " Never heard of them before, this is from Wikipedia
OliverClothesoff70
Thank you!
Richter12x2
The guns are just to keep Nestle from taking it.
IdiotSavantTinker
Five guns, 5,000 rounds of ammunition, and not so much as a box of band-aids for first aid.
Mr21782Man
I'm positive that half the "need help, no jack, rope, spare, don't know location" posts I see on my 4x4 group are from "preppers".
snumania
The only thing I need for doomsday is a portable welder to go around welding the billionaire/millionaire doomsday bunker doors shut.
atomicsockmonkey
Do like they did to Japanese bunkers in WWII. Swipe a bulldozer and bury the entrances and air vents.
Ekibwurm
dont forget to melt their comms array so they cant call/hire help either
Evillairforrent
Ah, so you're working for Vault tec? Tell me, whats your plan for the Blackstone people?
derekjohn
I suggest you all read 'The Postman' by David Brin, much better than the film that was made from it. Survivalists are depicted as parasites.
badmedic504
Holnists are worse than the EMPS! (Think of the consequences). Great book! Horrible screen adaptation.
CavalierNique
Hahahha that title.
HonestlyNotARobot
I got into an argument with a prepper who has multiple guns, but no water filter. He didn't understand what the problem was.
Arcanum3000
"You have died of dysentery."
CrimeBrulee
They plan to be raiders, not saviors.
annonymouse211
They are already raiders, not saviors
quzar
His plan is to shoot you for your water filter.
MeowMachine12
If he wasn't an idiot, he'd get his own water filter
The point is preparing for their survival fantasy of murder and theft, not to have drinking water.
Absolutely. That's what gives them the half chub. Justified and uncontrolled violence in their eyes.
MisterLemons
Gonna be great when the canned beans run dry and you go kill your neighbor for supplies but all you find is more fukkin ammo.
Oh, and a lifted F150/Silverado/1500 will *not be running* for long after any disaster, and if it is, you don't want to be seen in it.
FoxyEllie
See the real reason they'll do well is they'll steal supplies from the people who *aren't* armed.
HeHeHebieJeebies
Gun preppers simple plan is to take everyone else's stuff.
FlyingGiantElk
There’s a difference between preppers that go on tv and those that don’t.
LincLoud
Like the difference of events after a devastating or nigh-apocalyptic event in films and those in reality
Kelrik
Yeah, these guys are prepping to be Raiders. I prefer the Minutemen model- have a sustainable plan, find like-minded folk for a community.
SteveMND
I suspect people like doomsday preppers think the world operates more like Hollywood depicts it, and will be in for a very rude awakening.
jmtpl1973
If it wasn't for the doomsday, I'd love to see that awakening.
Willowknowsall
Like Texas where the prepers we're still counting on having electricity without even having a generator
Selerox
Good.
Onlyhereforthelaughs
They just gotta kill the right people to get water and supplies. But, did THOSE people prep supplies for looting..?
MrFancyPanzer
There have been collapses of societies before, people got over it by working together.
astrangehop
I wonder if the Aztecs has pantries full of like jerky and spears.
tarnok
If anything , they are easy picking for the people who are willing to commit violence
ThomasThundersword
you joke but thats literally the one thing most of them are best prepared for, and in many cases *hope* for. just leave em be and loot after
they go down. a head-on confrontation on their turf is the best way to get shot. hell waving at them from 100 yards away could still get>
you shot, especially if your dark enough. most won’t live long enough to use their supplies up. and the few who really are prepped will>
pose no threat to those around them unless attacked. since thoughtful planning to actually survive and murder-boners are generally >
BananaSlugPie
#1 Tell me you’ve only seen one-sided, mainstream TV ideas about prepping without telling me. Also, guess no one has heard of freeze dryers.
kindpanda
If the world they dream of comes to be, I'll only need one gun and one bullet
thoushaltnotpass
Most preppers' plan for after is to become the armed mob.
WhatTheFrench
My inlaws are peaceful and well prepared but handle interpersonal conflict poorly and talk about prepping loudly and publicly enough that
they’ll either be killed by opportunists they’ve blabbed in front of or kill each other. Either way I’ll take my chances on my own thanks.
porcinechoirmaster
I'm a type 1 diabetic. If society collapses, unless I get *very* lucky with the people around me, I will last until my insulin stash is gone
This makes apocalypse prepping less of a "long term planning" deal and more of a "last long enough to finish a bucket list" one.
GadenKerensky
There are preppers with bunkers, stockpile of canned goods, guns, AND plans for growing their own food, and medical knowledge.
kirmokum
after doomsday is not really when you want to START growing food.
PigsCanJump
Yeah, they're not prepping to be survivors, they're prepping to be raiders (a la The Road or Fallout).
vnqx
Counterpoint: Millions of peaches, peaches for me.
Eldibs
Doomsday prepping aside, keep a few days worth of shelf-stable food and potable water around, because natural disasters happen.
eadanke
I remember bringing "earthquake kits" to school like that when I was little. I wonder if that was normal, or a socal private school thing.
QueenOfTheFey
For sure. Being prepared for like, a really bad week, make sense and isnt' "I'mma survive the apocalypse with guns and canned goods"
KiwiGameDev
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, if your strat is “gonna stockpile cans” and let that define me on social media” what you’re
actually doing is just painting a big target on your back for other people to raid
FaithAlone
It’s a masculinization of the entire process. It’s not about being prepared for civilization’s collapse, it’s about feeling like a man.
BluePaladin42
My favorites are the ones who have a big stockpile of guns and canned foods and not a single non-electric can opener.
bladderinfection
Guns are all I need because hunting down the politicians that ended the world will be my only desire.
baconandmorebacon
I'd hunt down their voters. These stupid masses are more dangerous and also they're are my neighbors, so more likely to kill and eat me.
ratfaceddog
You’ll still need water, though.
corndude101
And this is how you get out in a list.
LariCheltsy
Punisher: The End. GREAT read!
Shelest
You'll need to keep hydrated for that tho
IAmDrBanner
I mean, it depends entirely on what kind of doomsday it is. We can still get ganked by aliens who are even bigger assholes than us or a /1
big space rock can just hit us hard and release some toxic space bullshit who knows. /2
StarSumiaki
Mood, tbh. It's not like I'm gonna have access to insulin and pump supplies during doomsday, so I may as well do something cathartic.
Yea I don’t think people think about this. What about all those that need dialysis? Or other regular treatments?
Mm. A lot of people don't realize how fragile a lot of people actually are, since we've overridden survival of fittest with industry/tech.
Very, very few people would be successful at transitioning from our contemporary way of life back to rugged individualistic homesteading.
And people like me would have no chance even if we had the mind, because our bodies just aren't up to it.
CaldariBob
Why does no one plan on hunting down the CEOs who are arguable more responsible for the state of things? Beats gluing yourself to art!
Freak0zoid
Those are usually less visible. I know who Thierry baudet is. No idea who’s the ceo of klm, airbus, Boeing, air china etc.
AlcoholicsAnonymousBYO
Think more GE, BP, and the entire military industrial complex, worldwide.
Yeah, I was just naming the first ones that came to mind. These are obviously not the only ones. Amazon is a big one. And musk.
They are also acceptable hot targets. Go git ‘em!
YellowSparrow
Prepped to take what they need by force. They fail to understand that humanity's primary survival strategy is cooperation.
zHurk777
That's Communism !!! maga doomsdayers.
SinStar87
exactly, look at any great collapses in history, those that survived, even thrived, were strong community builders. raiders died in droves.
FiftyShadesOfMascarpone
Yeah, an "every man for himself" scenario has never occured throughout human existence. We've always lived in clans, tribes, city states etc
2074red2074
Joke's gonna be on them when they try to Rambo the real preppers 1v15 and end up as fertilizer for their fields.
PolyTheWicked
In my limited experience, preppers tend to be the ones without that mentality. They’re more “every man for himself”. I always tell…
People to head over to my house when the shit hits the fan because I have a huge store of flours, grains, sugar. Not because I’m a…
Prepper, but because I bake a lot and like to cook, so I buy in bulk.
irish2junk
Or to keep what they have by force
Attwarnerm
Out other primary survival strategy was the use of our heightened intelligence, which, unfortunately, these people also lack.
SimSimSimsalabim
You're right.
They're also quite ignorant that bullets fly both ways and that actual preppers are genuine marksmen as well as remarkably patient.
SquireRamza
I saw a prepper on a show once who had like 16 machine guns and zero rifles. Hope you enjoy running out of ammo in 5 minutes.
At our house, it's a bad idea to test that "liberals don't have guns" theory.
d3jake
Preppers love the idea of survival, but often don't realize there are so many skills that aren't weapons, to work on.
eggmuffin
They love the idea of power. They want to be powerful, and in their small minds, that means violence. They're preparing to be predators.
adiving
Plenty of preppers in Europe without guns. So I kinda doubt that.
TheDayTheBrainStoodStill
This thread seems to be mostly discussing a particular - large but loose - subsection of North American prepper types.
LongCommentChainAppreciator
First time hearing of preppers in Europe
TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsTheBabyAteMyDingo
Preppers are everywhere, lots of them here in Norway.
LSKG
everyone focuses on the guns when they talk to preppers and most only have like 6-7 guns and like 3 to 5 years of dry food
Gonna shoot their way out of an infection and eat their way out of a busted limb right before mudding off into the sunset in a lifted F150.
most preppers have more realistic ideas of recurrence of "the great depression" or government collapse which could take 3-5 years to recover
I for one have a lot of rice, beans, flour, yeast, dry keep seasonings. seeds for growing,>>
a lot of toilet paper, a large stash of amoxicllian, a few guns for protection and hunting.
[deleted]
you need 4 different types of guns to hunt legally in different seasons in the us. these types are not necessarily good for self defense >>
for self defense it is recommended to have 2-3 guns, in case one jams or you need to switch from mid range to short range.>>
as for food shortages, the great depression lasted 10 YEARS, so 3-4 years average is actually really low
thesmelge
And people ask why the rest of the world thinks americans are fucking mental.
ErikLehnsherrWasRight
Did you know, you can grow and refine penicillin at home
YourClothesAreRed
Too bad I'm allergic...
ErniesWidow
You should see the bottom of my brother's refrigerator.
a2s2020
I've done that. Not on purpose. And it might not have been penicillin so much as horrible black goo
It was the cheese in the back of the fridge wasn't it
nakri4700
i have seen potatoes turn into a weird black liquid
It was a punnet of strawberries. What it is now is beyond my understanding
Sentient.
Argumentative certainly
NonstopRampage
Exactly! When the zombies happen, I'm taking people, tools, food AND information, into the Rockies. Fuck ALL ya'll scavenging in the cities.
warrenwoodworks8888
"the original purpose of a springhouse was to keep the spring water clean by excluding fallen leaves, animals, etc..also for refrigeration"
Apothecarius
"Goddamn Capybara are in the spring again, we gotta do something it. Build a fence, or a shed, or a shack for it."
warrenwoodworks8888
" The cool-cold spring water would keep food fresh longer " Never heard of them before, this is from Wikipedia
OliverClothesoff70
Thank you!
Richter12x2
The guns are just to keep Nestle from taking it.
IdiotSavantTinker
Five guns, 5,000 rounds of ammunition, and not so much as a box of band-aids for first aid.
Mr21782Man
I'm positive that half the "need help, no jack, rope, spare, don't know location" posts I see on my 4x4 group are from "preppers".
snumania
The only thing I need for doomsday is a portable welder to go around welding the billionaire/millionaire doomsday bunker doors shut.
atomicsockmonkey
Do like they did to Japanese bunkers in WWII. Swipe a bulldozer and bury the entrances and air vents.
Ekibwurm
dont forget to melt their comms array so they cant call/hire help either
Evillairforrent
Ah, so you're working for Vault tec? Tell me, whats your plan for the Blackstone people?
derekjohn
I suggest you all read 'The Postman' by David Brin, much better than the film that was made from it. Survivalists are depicted as parasites.
badmedic504
Holnists are worse than the EMPS! (Think of the consequences). Great book! Horrible screen adaptation.
CavalierNique
Hahahha that title.
HonestlyNotARobot
I got into an argument with a prepper who has multiple guns, but no water filter. He didn't understand what the problem was.
Arcanum3000
"You have died of dysentery."
CrimeBrulee
They plan to be raiders, not saviors.
annonymouse211
They are already raiders, not saviors
quzar
His plan is to shoot you for your water filter.
MeowMachine12
If he wasn't an idiot, he'd get his own water filter
quzar
The point is preparing for their survival fantasy of murder and theft, not to have drinking water.
MeowMachine12
Absolutely. That's what gives them the half chub. Justified and uncontrolled violence in their eyes.
MisterLemons
Gonna be great when the canned beans run dry and you go kill your neighbor for supplies but all you find is more fukkin ammo.
MisterLemons
Oh, and a lifted F150/Silverado/1500 will *not be running* for long after any disaster, and if it is, you don't want to be seen in it.
FoxyEllie
See the real reason they'll do well is they'll steal supplies from the people who *aren't* armed.
HeHeHebieJeebies
Gun preppers simple plan is to take everyone else's stuff.
FlyingGiantElk
There’s a difference between preppers that go on tv and those that don’t.
LincLoud
Like the difference of events after a devastating or nigh-apocalyptic event in films and those in reality
Kelrik
Yeah, these guys are prepping to be Raiders. I prefer the Minutemen model- have a sustainable plan, find like-minded folk for a community.
SteveMND
I suspect people like doomsday preppers think the world operates more like Hollywood depicts it, and will be in for a very rude awakening.
jmtpl1973
If it wasn't for the doomsday, I'd love to see that awakening.
Willowknowsall
Like Texas where the prepers we're still counting on having electricity without even having a generator
Selerox
Good.
Onlyhereforthelaughs
They just gotta kill the right people to get water and supplies. But, did THOSE people prep supplies for looting..?
MrFancyPanzer
There have been collapses of societies before, people got over it by working together.
astrangehop
I wonder if the Aztecs has pantries full of like jerky and spears.
tarnok
Evillairforrent
If anything , they are easy picking for the people who are willing to commit violence
ThomasThundersword
you joke but thats literally the one thing most of them are best prepared for, and in many cases *hope* for. just leave em be and loot after
ThomasThundersword
they go down. a head-on confrontation on their turf is the best way to get shot. hell waving at them from 100 yards away could still get>
ThomasThundersword
you shot, especially if your dark enough. most won’t live long enough to use their supplies up. and the few who really are prepped will>
ThomasThundersword
pose no threat to those around them unless attacked. since thoughtful planning to actually survive and murder-boners are generally >
BananaSlugPie
#1 Tell me you’ve only seen one-sided, mainstream TV ideas about prepping without telling me. Also, guess no one has heard of freeze dryers.
kindpanda
If the world they dream of comes to be, I'll only need one gun and one bullet
thoushaltnotpass
Most preppers' plan for after is to become the armed mob.
WhatTheFrench
My inlaws are peaceful and well prepared but handle interpersonal conflict poorly and talk about prepping loudly and publicly enough that
WhatTheFrench
they’ll either be killed by opportunists they’ve blabbed in front of or kill each other. Either way I’ll take my chances on my own thanks.
porcinechoirmaster
I'm a type 1 diabetic. If society collapses, unless I get *very* lucky with the people around me, I will last until my insulin stash is gone
porcinechoirmaster
This makes apocalypse prepping less of a "long term planning" deal and more of a "last long enough to finish a bucket list" one.
GadenKerensky
There are preppers with bunkers, stockpile of canned goods, guns, AND plans for growing their own food, and medical knowledge.
kirmokum
after doomsday is not really when you want to START growing food.
PigsCanJump
Yeah, they're not prepping to be survivors, they're prepping to be raiders (a la The Road or Fallout).
vnqx
Counterpoint: Millions of peaches, peaches for me.
Eldibs
Doomsday prepping aside, keep a few days worth of shelf-stable food and potable water around, because natural disasters happen.
eadanke
I remember bringing "earthquake kits" to school like that when I was little. I wonder if that was normal, or a socal private school thing.
QueenOfTheFey
For sure. Being prepared for like, a really bad week, make sense and isnt' "I'mma survive the apocalypse with guns and canned goods"
KiwiGameDev
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, if your strat is “gonna stockpile cans” and let that define me on social media” what you’re
KiwiGameDev
actually doing is just painting a big target on your back for other people to raid
FaithAlone
It’s a masculinization of the entire process. It’s not about being prepared for civilization’s collapse, it’s about feeling like a man.
BluePaladin42
My favorites are the ones who have a big stockpile of guns and canned foods and not a single non-electric can opener.
bladderinfection
Guns are all I need because hunting down the politicians that ended the world will be my only desire.
baconandmorebacon
I'd hunt down their voters. These stupid masses are more dangerous and also they're are my neighbors, so more likely to kill and eat me.
ratfaceddog
You’ll still need water, though.
corndude101
And this is how you get out in a list.
LariCheltsy
Punisher: The End. GREAT read!
Shelest
You'll need to keep hydrated for that tho
IAmDrBanner
I mean, it depends entirely on what kind of doomsday it is. We can still get ganked by aliens who are even bigger assholes than us or a /1
IAmDrBanner
big space rock can just hit us hard and release some toxic space bullshit who knows. /2
StarSumiaki
Mood, tbh. It's not like I'm gonna have access to insulin and pump supplies during doomsday, so I may as well do something cathartic.
corndude101
Yea I don’t think people think about this. What about all those that need dialysis? Or other regular treatments?
StarSumiaki
Mm. A lot of people don't realize how fragile a lot of people actually are, since we've overridden survival of fittest with industry/tech.
StarSumiaki
Very, very few people would be successful at transitioning from our contemporary way of life back to rugged individualistic homesteading.
GadenKerensky
And people like me would have no chance even if we had the mind, because our bodies just aren't up to it.
CaldariBob
Why does no one plan on hunting down the CEOs who are arguable more responsible for the state of things? Beats gluing yourself to art!
Freak0zoid
Those are usually less visible. I know who Thierry baudet is. No idea who’s the ceo of klm, airbus, Boeing, air china etc.
AlcoholicsAnonymousBYO
Think more GE, BP, and the entire military industrial complex, worldwide.
Freak0zoid
Yeah, I was just naming the first ones that came to mind. These are obviously not the only ones. Amazon is a big one. And musk.
bladderinfection
They are also acceptable hot targets. Go git ‘em!
YellowSparrow
Prepped to take what they need by force. They fail to understand that humanity's primary survival strategy is cooperation.
zHurk777
That's Communism !!! maga doomsdayers.
SinStar87
exactly, look at any great collapses in history, those that survived, even thrived, were strong community builders. raiders died in droves.
FiftyShadesOfMascarpone
Yeah, an "every man for himself" scenario has never occured throughout human existence. We've always lived in clans, tribes, city states etc
2074red2074
Joke's gonna be on them when they try to Rambo the real preppers 1v15 and end up as fertilizer for their fields.
PolyTheWicked
In my limited experience, preppers tend to be the ones without that mentality. They’re more “every man for himself”. I always tell…
PolyTheWicked
People to head over to my house when the shit hits the fan because I have a huge store of flours, grains, sugar. Not because I’m a…
PolyTheWicked
Prepper, but because I bake a lot and like to cook, so I buy in bulk.
irish2junk
Or to keep what they have by force
Attwarnerm
Out other primary survival strategy was the use of our heightened intelligence, which, unfortunately, these people also lack.
SimSimSimsalabim
YellowSparrow
You're right.
MisterLemons
They're also quite ignorant that bullets fly both ways and that actual preppers are genuine marksmen as well as remarkably patient.
SquireRamza
I saw a prepper on a show once who had like 16 machine guns and zero rifles. Hope you enjoy running out of ammo in 5 minutes.
YellowSparrow
At our house, it's a bad idea to test that "liberals don't have guns" theory.
d3jake
Preppers love the idea of survival, but often don't realize there are so many skills that aren't weapons, to work on.
eggmuffin
They love the idea of power. They want to be powerful, and in their small minds, that means violence. They're preparing to be predators.
adiving
Plenty of preppers in Europe without guns. So I kinda doubt that.
TheDayTheBrainStoodStill
This thread seems to be mostly discussing a particular - large but loose - subsection of North American prepper types.
LongCommentChainAppreciator
First time hearing of preppers in Europe
TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsTheBabyAteMyDingo
Preppers are everywhere, lots of them here in Norway.
LSKG
everyone focuses on the guns when they talk to preppers and most only have like 6-7 guns and like 3 to 5 years of dry food
MisterLemons
Gonna shoot their way out of an infection and eat their way out of a busted limb right before mudding off into the sunset in a lifted F150.
LSKG
most preppers have more realistic ideas of recurrence of "the great depression" or government collapse which could take 3-5 years to recover
LSKG
I for one have a lot of rice, beans, flour, yeast, dry keep seasonings. seeds for growing,>>
LSKG
a lot of toilet paper, a large stash of amoxicllian, a few guns for protection and hunting.
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[deleted]
LSKG
you need 4 different types of guns to hunt legally in different seasons in the us. these types are not necessarily good for self defense >>
LSKG
for self defense it is recommended to have 2-3 guns, in case one jams or you need to switch from mid range to short range.>>
LSKG
as for food shortages, the great depression lasted 10 YEARS, so 3-4 years average is actually really low
thesmelge
And people ask why the rest of the world thinks americans are fucking mental.
ErikLehnsherrWasRight
Did you know, you can grow and refine penicillin at home
YourClothesAreRed
Too bad I'm allergic...
ErniesWidow
You should see the bottom of my brother's refrigerator.
a2s2020
I've done that. Not on purpose. And it might not have been penicillin so much as horrible black goo
MisterLemons
It was the cheese in the back of the fridge wasn't it
nakri4700
i have seen potatoes turn into a weird black liquid
a2s2020
It was a punnet of strawberries. What it is now is beyond my understanding
MisterLemons
Sentient.
a2s2020
Argumentative certainly